Dickheads slow down

[v8dude78]

Was driving down frankston freeway this morning when i see some dickhead in a VR flying up behind me in the outside lane so i moved over , he must of gone past me doing at least 130 to 140.

He gets no more than 50 meters in front of me and somebody pulls into the outside lane right in front of him well he locks it up skids from the outside lane across 3 lanes including the off ramp at frankston north hits the guard rail head on and smashing the fence behind it and the car spins back out onto the freeway.

Be leave it or not he got out and started to do a runner, common sense must of got the better of him cause he came back.

Cops showed up and got him the coppa told us he had admitted to doing over 120 what a f---ken loser he could of killed himself or some body next to him

What is wrong with people these days :vpo:

[Evman]

Not thinking of the consequences will do it. I'm willing to bet it wasn't even a very good example of a VR, yet we all cop the flack for being "hoons".

[Brandonsdad]

Good to see it worked out perfect in the end.

I wouldnt be surprised if the guy meant to pull out in front of him on purpose to slow him down. I would have.
The street I live on, is right next to Goodwood Road, and you get some cars and bikes screaming along in this particular section. At the T junction to enter Goodwood Road there is a huge stobie pole that blocks vision to a degree. If I see a hoon in a car racing along I creep out into their pathway, giving them the impression that the stobie is blocking my vision to see them, and they pack shit. Farking idiots.

[Roonstain]

Good to see it worked out perfect in the end.

I wouldnt be surprised if the guy meant to pull out in front of him on purpose to slow him down. I would have.
The street I live on, is right next to Goodwood Road, and you get some cars and bikes screaming along in this particular section. At the T junction to enter Goodwood Road there is a huge stobie pole that blocks vision to a degree. If I see a hoon in a car racing along I creep out into their pathway, giving them the impression that the stobie is blocking my vision to see them, and they pack shit. Farking idiots.
That is an incredibly dangerous tactic - could easily end in tears all around mate - if i saw someone doing something like that knowingly, i would want to teach them a lesson!
Imagine if you caused a major accident! They could hit you or they could easily hit someone else

[Brandonsdad]

That is an incredibly dangerous tactic - could easily end in tears all around mate - if i saw someone doing something like that knowingly, i would want to teach them a lesson!
Imagine if you caused a major accident! They could hit you or they could easily hit someone else

Dont worry mate, its under controlled circumstances. I dont creep all the way out. As for causing an accident, well not much I can do about that. I just got my first aid certicicate, so it might come in handy.

[v8dude78]

That is an incredibly dangerous tactic - could easily end in tears all around mate - if i saw someone doing something like that knowingly, i would want to teach them a lesson!
Imagine if you caused a major accident! They could hit you or they could easily hit someone else

Have to agree after seeing what a violet hit it was today you would be stupid to pull out on purpose, the guy who did pull out didnt stop either just kept going

[ti0350]

some dickheads i recon wont slow, I was going out to home world yesterday was in the outside lane passing somebody at the 80km/h speed limit could see a 4wd flying up behind me so after I finished over taking I pulled into the inside lane this dickhead in the 4wd with a fully ladden trailer on the back went flying past me must of been doing over 100 given the speed at which he pulled away from me..

[glavas]

yeah just the other week some nob in a blue vx was trying to do a burnout on kingston smith drive near the schnider road bridge. anyway he lost control and crashed into a barricade and the just drove off. me and me mate in the work ute couldn't stop laughing. i mean who does that on main road at like 2 in the arvo? at least wait for 2 in the morning but still thats no excuse either.

[Party Pete]

I can't believe that no-one points out that the reason for the accident was primarily someone who failed to look properly before pulling out. Should the guy have been going so fast, probably not, but frankly pulling across right in front of him is appalling driving and the guy needs a rocket up him for not paying enough attention. As for deliberately pulling out at people and boasting how you might have to use first aid, this is the sort of crap attitude that makes driving in this country so bloody dangerous. No wonder we can't be trusted with higher speed limits with vigilanty road users dealing out their own idea of justice to people they adjudge as too doing something wrong.

[Brendan]

I was gonna ask if the guy who made the unsafe lane changed got pinged as well, he caused the accident.

[VNV8]

absolutely, the idiot that pulled out in front of him is the most at fault. obviously the first guy shouldnt have been speeding, but if you ask me thats much less dangerous (depending on the speed he was actually doing and condition of the car of course).

[Chappie]

some dickheads i recon wont slow, I was going out to home world yesterday was in the outside lane passing somebody at the 80km/h speed limit could see a 4wd flying up behind me so after I finished over taking I pulled into the inside lane this dickhead in the 4wd with a fully ladden trailer on the back went flying past me must of been doing over 100 given the speed at which he pulled away from me..

Agree 100%.

I have been using the Monash to get to work everyday for last month or so and the amount of people that dont sit on the 80kph limit before the 100 zone is unreal. Trucks are the main culprit to. I was sitting on 80 the other day in the middle lane ( not the right) and had a Truck zoom up my arse flashing lights for me to move. :vpo: Go around you goose or dont speed it is not like there was a hill approaching for him to gain momentum etc.:confused:
Not to mention the amount of trucks that fly past you in the 80 zone or tailgate other cars that are on the limit minding their own business. Farkin pricks the lot of them. :vpo:

[v8dude78]

The guy who pulled out in front of him didnt stop, probably didnt even realize he had done it.
There are speed limits there for a reason this being one of them, yes the guy who pulled out is as much at fault as much as the guy speeding is.
But if he wasnt speeding he would of had to just brake toot the horn, give the bird or what ever and kept going on his way.
Doing 40 k's over the speed limit is just plain stupid and dangerous

[Spoolin]

Good to see it worked out perfect in the end.

I wouldnt be surprised if the guy meant to pull out in front of him on purpose to slow him down. I would have.


{Insult removed - thread cleaning they call it} What gives you the right to control what others do? If he wants to speed so be it, why do you feel you should be the one to stop him, that's what the Police are for. Those sorts of action would more than likely cause more harm than good.

[stoved]

party pete is spot on the money here, there are way too many bleeding hearts out there who believe the world works in an idealistic manner and anyone speeding should be sent to jail. the truth is that speeders dont cause accidents, shithouse drivers cause accidents.

the right lane is for overtaking, simple as that. if youre not overtaking then get the fudge out of the right lane, problem solved.

[VESportswagon20]

absolutely, the idiot that pulled out in front of him is the most at fault. obviously the first guy shouldnt have been speeding, but if you ask me thats much less dangerous (depending on the speed he was actually doing and condition of the car of course).

Actually, the person changing lanes would have seen plenty of space when changing lanes, but because this idiot was driving 40Km's over the limit vastly decreasing the braking distance this speedster has put the other driver at risk not the other way around. No penalty should be given to the person who changed lanes and because he/she has not been involved in the accident in anyway (the other motorist braked, lost control and swerved and colided with the guardrail and fence) he/she is not obliged under the law to stop because of a accident occuring.

[chris_vysv8]

Aren't you a wanker! What gives you the right to control what others do? If he wants to speed so be it, why do you feel you should be the one to stop him, that's what the Police are for. Those sorts of action would more than likely cause more harm than good.

+1 on this. There are far too many drivers who seem to think it is their job to police the road rules, and by doing so create dangerous situations or even trigger road rage incidents. Mind your own business when you are on the road, and let the police do their job.

[bradass]

KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING.

If you are not overtaking wtf are you doing in the right lane?

I know who should be charged.

[rgmast]

KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING.

If you are not overtaking wtf are you doing in the right lane?

I know who should be charged.

How do u know the person who pulled in front of the speeding driver wasnt overtaking another car.

If the speeding driver had any brains he wouldnt of been speeding in the first place but since he was, he should of been alert of all other drivers and expect anything at any time.

Yes the person shouldnt of pulled out in front but when im driving(and having rode a bike for 5 years) I presume every car around me is going to do something stupid so always be on my toes. Most of the times what I predict is going to happen does happen.

[hRTHSV]

Yes the bloke was speeding and obviously locking up the brakes was a big contributing factor to the crash so it's obvious he can't drive or he wouldn't have locked it up!

The idiot that didn't stop obviously didn't look because regardless of how fast the knuckle head in the VR was going (obviously well beyond his ability) it's up the the person changing lanes to do so safely.

Just imagine if that speeding vehicle had been a Police car or an Ambulance etc! And it's not always true that the bloke changing lanes will see them, it may be that when he looked 2 km's ago he didn't see anyone so it should still be ok to change lanes, after all he's doing the speed limit no one would have caught him.

Food for thought people, happens more than you think.

I can't tell you the amount of terrible drivers who say, "I have never had an accident", no they haven't but they caused 20 with people trying to avoid them.

[bradass]

How do u know the person who pulled in front of the speeding driver wasnt overtaking another car.

Because they obviously didn't look in their side mirrors or rear view to check it was safe. Or if they did what the OP suggests, they caused the accident.

How do you know the person speeding wasn't speeding due to medical emergency?

If the person who pulled out in front of the speeding driver can't judge distance or speed, has a bad attitude and or can't be bothered checking their side and rear view mirrors for traffic, they should be charged with dangerous driving regardless along with the driver who swerves in front of overtaking traffic and rubber necks at accidents.

As said it's the job of the Police. If your going to instigate road rage you better be prepared to face the music.

By the way it reads, the person in front caused the accident. The person that was speeding didn't help his own situation, and if the moron who stayed in the right lane would have kept left like they should have, then perhaps the driver in front would have had more time to see.

[rgmast]

Yes the bloke was speeding and obviously locking up the brakes was a big contributing factor to the crash so it's obvious he can't drive or he wouldn't have locked it up!

The idiot that didn't stop obviously didn't look because regardless of how fast the knuckle head in the VR was going (obviously well beyond his ability) it's up the the person changing lanes to do so safely.

Just imagine if that speeding vehicle had been a Police car or an Ambulance etc! And it's not always true that the bloke changing lanes will see them, it may be that when he looked 2 km's ago he didn't see anyone so it should still be ok to change lanes, after all he's doing the speed limit no one would have caught him.

Food for thought people, happens more than you think.

I can't tell you the amount of terrible drivers who say, "I have never had an accident", no they haven't but they caused 20 with people trying to avoid them.

I was just replying to ya last post which said

"KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING.

If you are not overtaking wtf are you doing in the right lane?

I know who should be charged. "

And I just said maybe the guy changed into the right lane cos they were overtaking another car and yes they pulled in front of the speeding car.
It doesnt state he stayed in the right lane

How many times do u see a emergency vehicle coming down the right lane and a car just stays in there oblivious to them behind them. People just think they have mirrors to check makeup and pop pimples

[hRTHSV]

I was just replying to ya last post which said

"KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING.

If you are not overtaking wtf are you doing in the right lane?

I know who should be charged. "

And I just said maybe the guy changed into the right lane cos they were overtaking another car and yes they pulled in front of the speeding car.
It doesnt state he stayed in the right lane

How many times do u see a emergency vehicle coming down the right lane and a car just stays in there oblivious to them behind them. People just think they have mirrors to check makeup and pop pimples

I wasn't have a go at you mate it was just a general post, that's why yours isn't quoted in mine.

[v8dude78]

Because they obviously didn't look in their side mirrors or rear view to check it was safe. Or if they did what the OP suggests, they caused the accident.

How do you know the person speeding wasn't speeding due to medical emergency?

If the person who pulled out in front of the speeding driver can't judge distance or speed, has a bad attitude and or can't be bothered checking their side and rear view mirrors for traffic, they should be charged with dangerous driving regardless along with the driver who swerves in front of overtaking traffic and rubber necks at accidents.

As said it's the job of the Police. If your going to instigate road rage you better be prepared to face the music.

By the way it reads, the person in front caused the accident. The person that was speeding didn't help his own situation, and if the moron who stayed in the right lane would have kept left like they should have, then perhaps the driver in front would have had more time to see.

What people are falling to see is speed was the contributing factor here
If he had been doing 100 kph and not the 140 he was he would of had time to brake plain and simple.
limits are there for a reason people whether you agree with them or not.

[Party Pete]

Contributing factor, yes indeed. But frankly he wasn't going that fast by world standards, only the nanny state standards we are stuck with here. How can you argue that someone changing lanes in front of him wasn't the single biggest cause of the crash? The sad fact is that no matter how slow people are going, accidents occur because people don't drive with proper care and attention. The level of concentration being shown by the other driver is well demonstrated by the fact he/she didn't stop. Either they didn't even notice the crash or they are so completely irresponsible that they didn't stop to make sure everyone is OK.

[Spoolin]

Who said he was goin at 140? Most people struggle to determine speed without being told by their gauge.

It's amazing how many innocent do gooders there are around here...Surely you have all sped at times and probably well over the estimated speed of this person...considering this is a performance based forum.

[rgmast]

I wasn't have a go at you mate it was just a general post, that's why yours isn't quoted in mine.

Sorry mate I clicked the wrong quote box :doh: meant to be bradass's reply

[SS_Brute]

Every morning at about 5:35 like clockwork i see a black VS Maloo weaving through traffic on the dual carriageway into mackay. Surely leaving another 5 minutes earlier to get to work wont kill him but seems its good enough to try kill us. Couple of others but they'll get the hint when they see him piled up somewhere.

[v8dude78]

Contributing factor, yes indeed. But frankly he wasn't going that fast by world standards, only the nanny state standards we are stuck with here. How can you argue that someone changing lanes in front of him wasn't the single biggest cause of the crash? The sad fact is that no matter how slow people are going, accidents occur because people don't drive with proper care and attention. The level of concentration being shown by the other driver is well demonstrated by the fact he/she didn't stop. Either they didn't even notice the crash or they are so completely irresponsible that they didn't stop to make sure everyone is OK.


Who said he was goin at 140? Most people struggle to determine speed without being told by their gauge.

It's amazing how many innocent do gooders there are around here...Surely you have all sped at times and probably well over the estimated speed of this person...considering this is a performance based forum.

I can see why the cop's get so frustrated at people not slowing down. :hmmm:

[VNV8]

exactly, we have no way of knowing what speed he was actually doing, nor do we know what speed the idiot who pulled out in front of him was doing. the fact is that there are, in my opinion (and my experience in the daily near-death-experience/peak-hour commute), just as many drivers who drive under the speed limit as there are who drive over it, and both types are dangerous and more likely to cause an accident than those who stick to the speed limit (who i would say are more alert to their surroundings and conditions).

[v8dude78]

exactly, we have no way of knowing what speed he was actually doing, nor do we know what speed the idiot who pulled out in front of him was doing. the fact is that there are, in my opinion (and my experience in the daily near-death-experience/peak-hour commute), just as many drivers who drive under the speed limit as there are who drive over it, and both types are dangerous and more likely to cause an accident than those who stick to the speed limit (who i would say are more alert to their surroundings and conditions).

+1 :goodjob:

[Spoolin]

Drivers in Australia are pure lazy, think they own the road and act like it just like some of the posters. Go to Europe and it's different, yes Italians may look out of control but they are alert even at 130K plus on the hwy's. I've driven there and you have to be on the ball all the time!
It was proven many years ago that Australia hwy speeds are significantly too low, most of our multi lane roads would handle higher speeds...It's just the dumb ass' who travel on them can't!

How many times on a fwy on ramp have we all had to merge at well below hwy speeds due to ass in front of us? Now that's asking for trouble!

[SS Enforcer]

What people are falling to see is speed was the contributing factor here
If he had been doing 100 kph and not the 140 he was he would of had time to brake plain and simple.
limits are there for a reason people whether you agree with them or not.

But the main cause was the idiot who changed lanes without looking and as you saw what happened I am sure you gave the coppers the details of the car that actually caused the accident. Or he just got off scott free I suppose ?

[cashie]

If the clown in the VR was going slower he would have had more braking/reaction time and maybe the "accident" wouldn't have happened...
The clown who pulled in front of him is the same clown we all see every other day on the road, hence why we drive to the conditions.

[Cruzadr]

Not related to OP but theres an interesting phenomenon in Sydney now where the left hand lane is now the fast lane. I think it's because all the unskilled drivers who have no right being in control of a motor vehicle lack the skills to negotiate around parked cars and merging, so they tend to stick to the right hand lane.
I blame the licensing system, there NEEDS to be formal defensive driver training with practical tests in controlled environments.
But yeah, back to the OP if the dude in the VR had been travelling at a SAFE speed, even if it was above the posted speed limit he would not have had an accident even if some numpty had pulled out in front of him. Bad skills all around.
Also could people stop typing "could of, would of" it's, "could have, would have" it only sounds that way because we shorten it to "could've, would've". Really gets my goat. :soap:

Cheers.

[TheRealMadMax]

Was driving down frankston freeway this morning when i see some dickhead in a VR flying up behind me in the outside lane so i moved over , he must of gone past me doing at least 130 to 140.


I'm not condoning the speeders behaviour, however it would appear you were driving in the right lane without overtaking? This is one of my pet hates. Even worse is two cars driving side by side for any length of road. Dangerous and annoying.

I'm sure we all do things that could be considered poor driving by others standards.

[LJ03L]

+1 to "KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING." (and not just on the highway)

The number of people here (canberra) that just don't get it is unbelieveable.

We drove back from Syd on sat, and there was a car behind us that stayed in the right lane for over 100km... people were passing them on the left becuase they wouldn't move over.

Just becuase you are going to turn right in 200kms doesn't mean you need to be in the right hand lane that early.....

[timy]

i rode motorbikes for a couple of years and the reason why i stopped on the road was due to idiots pulling out without looking.. we wont ever know if the person didn't check mirrors before changing lanes or do a head check, but its to people like this who make roads dangerous.

although my pet hate with drivers are people who cant F****N merge (:flipoff:) i cant go past the fact that this guy was doin 40 k over the limit.. lucky he walked away, he could have killed someone and walked away in hand cuffs, hopefully its lesson learnt..

timy

[FAVSSS]

The bottom line in all of this is that unfortunately a certain amount of COMMON SENSE and RESPECT FOR OTHERS is not part of any licencing strategy brought forward by any authorities.If you had to prove you poccessed both these skills tto get a liscence then there would be alot less dickheads on the road

[Brandonsdad]

{Insult removed - thread cleaning they call it} What gives you the right to control what others do? If he wants to speed so be it, why do you feel you should be the one to stop him, that's what the Police are for. Those sorts of action would more than likely cause more harm than good.

Im not stopping him, just making him realise what can happen when someone pulls out in front of them at that speed. If they learn from it then good, if they dont, well too bad for them or someone else. Sometimes a little fright gets the message through.
So far it hasnt caused any harm, as the front of my car is still in place.
I dont just blatantly sit my car in front of an approaching speeding car, I just creep forward as if Im going to take off. They pack shit and slow down or swerve. If they dont swerve or slow down, at least I get to meet them in person.

[bradass]

I have a bullbar for people like you. If you drift into my lane then your fair game. If you stopped after doing that and wanted to press the matter I know who would be getting the fright and not do it again!.

You should goto the police station and tell them what you do. See what there reaction is you tool.

[Kuzman89]

Im not stopping him, just making him realise what can happen when someone pulls out in front of them at that speed. If they learn from it then good, if they dont, well too bad for them or someone else. Sometimes a little fright gets the message through.
So far it hasnt caused any harm, as the front of my car is still in place.
I dont just blatantly sit my car in front of an approaching speeding car, I just creep forward as if Im going to take off. They pack shit and slow down or swerve. If they dont swerve or slow down, at least I get to meet them in person.

Woah!! Actually admitting that you seek accidents? What a complete douchebag, I suppose you won't learn until you kill someone.

[bradass]

Woah!! Actually admitting that you seek accidents? What a complete douchebag, I suppose you won't learn until you kill someone.

on the money there!

[1BEAST2NV]

if some one stuck there nose out on purpose just to be a smart arse, you'd either learn to reverse really quick or get slammed and it'd be your own DUMB fault.

give way signs and the continues white lines are there for a reason.....

you go on about ppl breaking the law, yet you do it yourself "and put others at danger" of your stupidity...

stop trying to be "the law", ppl wonder why road rage happens.:flipoff:

[v8dude78]

I'm not condoning the speeders behaviour, however it would appear you were driving in the right lane without overtaking? This is one of my pet hates. Even worse is two cars driving side by side for any length of road. Dangerous and annoying.

I'm sure we all do things that could be considered poor driving by others standards.

I was over taking somebody when he came flying up behind me.
That is how ive got a good idea of what speed he was doing i was doing about 105 and he was catching up to the back of me like i was doing 60.

This is also one of my pet hates , dont make accusations with out knowing all the details cheers :)

[Kuzman89]

I was over taking somebody when he came flying up behind me.
That is how ive got a good idea of what speed he was doing i was doing about 105 and he was catching up to the back of me like i was doing 60.

This is also one of my pet hates , dont make accusations with out knowing all the details cheers :)

To be fair, it didn't sound like you were over taking. And you could be making that up for all we know. Not saying your lieing, but this is the internet,

[v8dude78]

To be fair, it didn't sound like you were over taking. And you could be making that up for all we know. Not saying your lieing, but this is the internet,

yes it is isnt :hmmm:

[Kuzman89]

Thats what i said champ :confused:

[black_friday]

Before changing lanes, imagine you do a headcheck, and spot a car 50m behind you. Upon changing lanes this car is now right up your backside, because he was travelling way above the speed limit! It is pretty hard to guage someones speed simply by doing the right thing, which is a headcheck.

The speeding idiot is at fault

And a medical emergency wont get you out of a speeding fine!

Jarrod

[SSDVL!]

At the end of the day the moron in the VR is just that, an absolute moron...
The moron changing lanes and cutting the moron off whilst doing 140kmh is a moron.....the moral of the story is.....dont be a moron and you wont slam your car into the moron stopper....

At the end of the day again, V8dude78 just reported what he saw....he wasnt asking to fuk ya sister so atop being so passionate bout the moron who chose to drive like a fukwit.

[v8dude78]

At the end of the day the moron in the VR is just that, an absolute moron...
The moron changing lanes and cutting the moron off whilst doing 140kmh is a moron.....the moral of the story is.....dont be a moron and you wont slam your car into the moron stopper....

At the end of the day again, V8dude78 just reported what he saw....he wasnt asking to fuk ya sister so atop being so passionate bout the moron who chose to drive like a fukwit.

Thanks mate :goodjob:

[Jarhead]

Regardless of the specifics of this incident, there is an obvious element in our society that feel they need to enforce the law. I hear lots of people say they deliberately hog the right lane bacause people shouldn't be passing them above the speed limit.

This kind of mentality is what causes so much of the road rage these days.

Accept that people will exceed the speed limits. If they are caught by the police then they (we) will pay the appropriate fine and move on. It's not your job to teach them (us) a lesson and obstruct the right hand lane.

Personally, if I see someone flying up the overtaking lane, the last thing I would dream of doing is changin ginto their lane to slow them down.

[vx_clubby]

Been working in Korea for the last few weeks, youd be seen as doing something seriously wrong if you werent speeding everywhere and cutting people off left right and centre! I just get a bit worried when a 16 ton forklift flies out of nowhere...

[rgmast]

chaotic but there is a method to their madness. Taken while on holidays in vietnam

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd98/rgmast/IMGP0218.jpg

[Tecca]

lol Rgmast, I don't think they give way to the right lol:rofl:

[1BEAST2NV]

hahaha bit like bali :lmao:

[Vulture]

I can't believe that no-one points out that the reason for the accident was primarily someone who failed to look properly before pulling out. Should the guy have been going so fast, probably not, but frankly pulling across right in front of him is appalling driving and the guy needs a rocket up him for not paying enough attention. As for deliberately pulling out at people and boasting how you might have to use first aid, this is the sort of crap attitude that makes driving in this country so bloody dangerous. No wonder we can't be trusted with higher speed limits with vigilanty road users dealing out their own idea of justice to people they adjudge as too doing something wrong.

Nice one, Pete. Agree 100%


he/she is not obliged under the law to stop because of a accident occuring.

Is that true? I thought that if you caused an accident you were probably required to stop to render any assistance that might be required?

[Irish]

Bit off topic but the last two days of rain in Brisbane have made people lose their brains on the road. Conditions and visibility are poor yet people still keep very little stopping distance, speed, and change lanes erratically to 'gain' 1 car space. Cosequently I saw a lot of bent cars on the way to and from work today.

Speeding isn't the problem when everyone is speeding, but being faster or slower than traffic is where problems arise.