Tyre Help 245/40/R18 Best Tyres ?

[READA]

Hey guys
i am looking for some 18 INCH "Good Performace Tyre" for my vz monaro

currently have the "cheapies" from when i purchased the car...

235/40/18 Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra (fronts)
235/40/18 Nankang NS 2 (rears) = shit house from my experiance.....

Want to upgrade to some better tryers for all round performace and better handeling in the wet spesh after this weeknd just gone here in melbourne was alittle wet LOL

Done a bit of looking around
Thinking top of the range
also want 245/40 on there

Bridgstones.......Adrelian.....RE 050
Dunlop.... SP sport maxx
Goodyears...Eagels

Any one have any Preferances or experiances with some top of the range tyres..... ??

Cheers

[Lasoya]

Those MA-Z1 victras are very good bang for buck, Last a long time and handle well, id stay with that tyre

[Firebug]

I'm running 235 R18 NS2's all round with about 25 thousand k's on them so far with only good things to say so far... http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif

[dyno junkie]

Continental ContiSport 3, absolutey the best alround tyre I've run on our Monaro.

[LS1-5.7]

If money is no object then I'd be looking at a Michelin or Continental. The potenzas tend to wear fast and develop pulling issues due a bias problems. I wouldn't put a Dunlop on any list of "top" tyres just quietly .....

If money is an issue or you just want to save some to spend on other things then give the Neuton tyres a crack. NT5000 235/40/18 W I think they are. Have run them for 3 years now (30,000 km's) and with sensible rotation (front to back once only), I've still got a very even 50% tread left on all four. (Run them on 42 psi cold). They balance up well, are quiet and damn good in the wet considering their somewhat harder compound. I will keep buying them untill they stop making them :bow: $150 fitted each, balanced, rims intact :)

[TIR33D]

Toyo T1R can't beat em in my opinion

[planetdavo]

Don't expect better performance from this oddball size you are wanting. It will also put your speedo out.
That size is far less common than the correct 235/40/R18, so may limit your options, or at least increase the cost of them.

[TIR33D]

Don't expect better performance from this oddball size you are wanting. It will also put your speedo out.
That size is far less common than the correct 235/40/R18, so may limit your options, or at least increase the cost of them.

Sorry Davo, this is the new size on the current fords ( and old fords ) well supported size nowadays.

[Carlin1983]

I run the MA-Z1, for there price i think they are a great tyre, But if ya willing to pay 400 or 500 per tyre, i'm sure theres lots a better ones around.

I only use my car on the street, so dont know how the MA-Z1 would go on the track

[dgp]

Go and buy some Bridgestone RE050A's, i read in another post that there were some specials on them at the moment.

[mummbles]

Go and buy some Bridgestone RE050A's, i read in another post that there were some specials on them at the moment.

I was quoted $380 for these by Bridgestone at Coopers Plains today.
245/45/18 RE050A

[DukeZ]

go the re050's one of the better tyres out there.....stay away from the dunlops they arent a "top of the range tyre" otherwise conti's michelin or yoki's if money is no object


good luck

also reada might be worth popin in to see us to discuss your options

[SS-LS1]

I run the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetrical in a 245/40R18 on my VZ SS ute and have found them to be fantastic both in the wet and dry for grip, easily the best road tyre I have ever driven on and I do get to try a few as a mate runs a tyre store for one of the big retailers, they do get a bit noisy when getting low on tread but that doesn't bother me much. They do wear a bit quicker than most though but I guess that is the price you pay for grip. Didn't seem to effect the spedo much either.

Cheers

Dan

[2 cylinders shy]

Look at Bridgestone RE001 in 235/40 R18
Give Protek tyres a call they normally look after the LS1.com guys :goodjob:

Alternatively you cant beat the value of KU36's ath the moment. A step up again from the RE001's in performance but CHEAPER :confused: They will not last very long though.

[Carby]

At the top end I don't think you can beat the Goodyear F1 DS G3 's - I think the tread design has changed recently, but they still win tyre tests. In my experience on the old GTO the Original Bridgies would not last more than 31,000 km, they were an excellent tyre in the dry very good in the wet but when I went to the F1's they were far superior in the wet and equal in the dry and I got 43,000 km's out of them! The first lot were German made but when I replaced them the new ones were Australian made - thankfully they were every bit as good (just needed a bit more lead when balancing.)

So impreesed with the F1's I've put them on the SV6 - unfortunately they don't make a size that suits the VE GTS so I had to get Bridgies for that again.

[dgp]

I was quoted $380 for these by Bridgestone at Coopers Plains today.
245/45/18 RE050A

I notice that you have a Sportwagon, were you quoted for the 98 or 94 load rated tyres? You need the 98 rated ones to stay legal.

[READA]

Cheers for all the advise boys ....

still very unsure of which way 2 go.... :(

thinking more of an soft compound tyre as i only use the monaro on weeknds....

Rang up a few tyre dealers they are telling me to go for
Bridgestones. potenza $ 444 or RE050 $677
Tokohama Advan sport $430
Price is not a big issue
although about 500 a tyre is a max only looking to purchase 2 tyres atm...

Does anyone have some experiance witht the Semi slick yokahama/ kuhmo /other brand tyres
do they handel as well in the wet as a normall tyre.. ??
as winter is coming up.. :bawl:

[READA]

go the re050's one of the better tyres out there.....stay away from the dunlops they arent a "top of the range tyre" otherwise conti's michelin or yoki's if money is no object


good luck

also reada might be worth popin in to see us to discuss your options

You work at proteck buddy ?? soon as i get time i pop down there have a chat to john i got his card a few weeks back


I run the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetrical in a 245/40R18 on my VZ SS ute and have found them to be fantastic both in the wet and dry for grip, easily the best road tyre I have ever driven on and I do get to try a few as a mate runs a tyre store for one of the big retailers, they do get a bit noisy when getting low on tread but that doesn't bother me much. They do wear a bit quicker than most though but I guess that is the price you pay for grip. Didn't seem to effect the spedo much either.

Cheers

Dan

the F1's are still rated the best tyres in all the tests that have been done
i was told today that they are very noisy tyre ? you find this the case in your opionion?




Look at Bridgestone RE001 in 235/40 R18
Give Protek tyres a call they normally look after the LS1.com guys :goodjob:

Alternatively you cant beat the value of KU36's ath the moment. A step up again from the RE001's in performance but CHEAPER :confused: They will not last very long though.

How much are the KU36's??


At the top end I don't think you can beat the Goodyear F1 DS G3 's - I think the tread design has changed recently, but they still win tyre tests. In my experience on the old GTO the Original Bridgies would not last more than 31,000 km, they were an excellent tyre in the dry very good in the wet but when I went to the F1's they were far superior in the wet and equal in the dry and I got 43,000 km's out of them! The first lot were German made but when I replaced them the new ones were Australian made - thankfully they were every bit as good (just needed a bit more lead when balancing.)

So impreesed with the F1's I've put them on the SV6 - unfortunately they don't make a size that suits the VE GTS so I had to get Bridgies for that again.

Which bridgstones did you have one the GTO mate??
i was warned about the F1's that come from china.. can be a little shifty..
where abouts did you get yours from?
roughyl how much per tyre??

[mummbles]

I notice that you have a Sportwagon, were you quoted for the 98 or 94 load rated tyres? You need the 98 rated ones to stay legal.

98s. He knew what car it was for :)

[Carby]

You work at proteck buddy ?? soon as i get time i pop down there have a chat to john i got his card a few weeks back



the F1's are still rated the best tyres in all the tests that have been done
i was told today that they are very noisy tyre ? you find this the case in your opionion?





How much are the KU36's??



Which bridgstones did you have one the GTO mate??
i was warned about the F1's that come from china.. can be a little shifty..
where abouts did you get yours from?
roughyl how much per tyre??



The Bridgies were the OE ones SO-3's from memory - were very good but not as good as the F1's.

Never got any from China - though my daughter got two Goodyears for her Barina and they are Chinese made - so far no problems and they hang on OK for run of the mill tyres.

Around $400.00 each at AAA tyres in Guildford NSW.

[planetdavo]

Sorry Davo, this is the new size on the current fords ( and old fords ) well supported size nowadays.

There you go. Ford tyres on a Holden...:stick:
Still a bit of a misguided decision to go this size on this model in my opinion.
One can only assume "perceived" performance gains are behind it.

[READA]

There you go. Ford tyres on a Holden...:stick:
Still a bit of a misguided decision to go this size on this model in my opinion.
One can only assume "perceived" performance gains are behind it.

Hi mate i was only after the 245.. as its the biggest tyre i can fit under the gard (with out rolling)
and an extra 10mil of tyre on the road cannot be a bad thing right ??

[planetdavo]

Hi mate i was only after the 245.. as its the biggest tyre i can fit under the gard (with out rolling)
and an extra 10mil of tyre on the road cannot be a bad thing right ??

You also gain a small amount of extra sidewall height due to keeping a 40 profile, leading to a less "low profile" tyre, so what you theoretically gain with extra width you could lose due to extra sidewall height. I also believe that you will visually notice the fact you are running an "oversize" tyre.
You mention that price isn't an issue. Have you considered going to 19's?

[READA]

You also gain a small amount of extra sidewall height due to keeping a 40 profile, leading to a less "low profile" tyre, so what you theoretically gain with extra width you could lose due to extra sidewall height. I also believe that you will visually notice the fact you are running an "oversize" tyre.
You mention that price isn't an issue. Have you considered going to 19's?

I have previously had my old mans old tyre (ford tyres lol) 245 and they did look quite overssized on the car
but it did give it a tuff look.....

price is not an issue as far as the tyre is concerned...
i have alwaz liked these rims and have only had them fitted to the car for a few weeks now.....not 2 keen on upgrading wheels already

after the weeknd in wet weather i just want some better tyres all around as its the only thing between me and the road
40k car gotta keep it in good condition...

i will look into the 235's also thats for the tip buddy

[planetdavo]

I pleased to read that you are prepared to spend on a premium tyre READA. Far too many people buy really nice cars like yours/mine/others, then run out of money buying ugly rims, big sound etc, and stick the nastiest 3rd world import sh!t tyres on.
A potential accident waiting to happen, and an indicator of people getting their priorities very wrong.

[READA]

I pleased to read that you are prepared to spend on a premium tyre READA. Far too many people buy really nice cars like yours/mine/others, then run out of money buying ugly rims, big sound etc, and stick the nastiest 3rd world import sh!t tyres on.
A potential accident waiting to happen, and an indicator of people getting their priorities very wrong.

I agree mate big accident waiting to happen!
i was alwaz goin to upgrade the tyres after summa and so here i am :)

Whats your opinion on the tyres mate?
what you run on yours??
I am leaning towards the bridgstones i must say
can get them cheaper through a friend of a friend just found out tonight...

thinking of running the Adredlians or RE050's on the front
and possibley getting a semislick kuhmo or somthing similar for the rears....

[DukeZ]

You work at proteck buddy ?? soon as i get time i pop down there have a chat to john i got his card a few weeks back


correct....i just didnt wanna post that in here

[READA]

correct....i just didnt wanna post that in here

I remeber reading something that u started working there on here one day....

seeing as your the Pro... :bow:

how much better are the RE050 to the adredlians??

and what u think about running the aboves tyres on the front
and a semislick type tyres on the rears... ??

Cheers

[2 cylinders shy]

I paid about $250.00 a tyre for 235/40 18 ku36. If your car is a weekender you should seriously consider these. A mate of mine ran a 1.42 on these tyres.

[TIR33D]

Stay away from the KU36 for road duties................

Even my Kumho rep suggested to me to go a higher spec tyre. They are designed to be flogged at the track, thats it. You want a comp tyre try the R888 toyo or the bridgestone. None of these will be good in the wet.
As for others mentioned above, don't waste your money on the Maxxis.
In case others cant read he is looking for a 245/40r18 - no use quoting the 245/45 price.
Some like the feel of the adrenalin b/stone, otherwise the 050a is a OK tyre, but honestly just an OE tyre. Both are assymetrical so you cant turn them around to counter the IRS issues. The goodyear mentioned above and the toyo are directional (enabling the tyre to be rotated from left to right - although must be done by a tyre shop). Toyo prob under $400 goodyear - would have to check.

[READA]

Hi guys
just been to the bridgstone dealer near my office in hawthorn...

RE040 are currently on special in a 235/40 18 for $260 fitted...
he also told me to stay away from the 245 as the benfit is extreamly minimal and the speedo will be out...

He also told me the RE050 which is $593... is not that much better for $333 extra per tyre....

[READA]

Stay away from the KU36 for road duties................

Even my Kumho rep suggested to me to go a higher spec tyre. They are designed to be flogged at the track, thats it. You want a comp tyre try the R888 toyo or the bridgestone. None of these will be good in the wet.
As for others mentioned above, don't waste your money on the Maxxis.
In case others cant read he is looking for a 245/40r18 - no use quoting the 245/45 price.
Some like the feel of the adrenalin b/stone, otherwise the 050a is a OK tyre, but honestly just an OE tyre. Both are assymetrical so you cant turn them around to counter the IRS issues. The goodyear mentioned above and the toyo are directional (enabling the tyre to be rotated from left to right - although must be done by a tyre shop). Toyo prob under $400 goodyear - would have to check.


Cheers for the tip's mate
went down to a tyre dealer this morning and he helped me out a fair bit
told me to stay away from semislicks as they need to be very warm to actualy get the benifits that the tyre has
so maybe a summer tyre but not a winter tyre which winter is coming up....

even tho they are just a OE tyre holden must of done some testing along the lines to actually warrnt using the tyres u would hope...

[2 cylinders shy]

Stay away from the KU36 for road duties................

Even my Kumho rep suggested to me to go a higher spec tyre. They are designed to be flogged at the track, thats it. You want a comp tyre try the R888 toyo or the bridgestone. None of these will be good in the wet.
As for others mentioned above, don't waste your money on the Maxxis.
In case others cant read he is looking for a 245/40r18 - no use quoting the 245/45 price.
Some like the feel of the adrenalin b/stone, otherwise the 050a is a OK tyre, but honestly just an OE tyre. Both are assymetrical so you cant turn them around to counter the IRS issues. The goodyear mentioned above and the toyo are directional (enabling the tyre to be rotated from left to right - although must be done by a tyre shop). Toyo prob under $400 goodyear - would have to check.

I have had REO50's RE001's RS2's and am now running KU36's on the street :bow:, I have also tried A048's RE55's and R888's on the track.
KU36 are fine on the street for a weekender.
In regards to to RE050 vs RE001 the RE001 is clearly the superior tyre.
Ive USED a decent selection of tyres and that is what i have found.

[READA]

I have had REO50's RE001's RS2's and am now running KU36's on the street :bow:, I have also tried A048's RE55's and R888's on the track.
KU36 are fine on the street for a weekender.
In regards to to RE050 vs RE001 the RE001 is clearly the superior tyre.
Ive USED a decent selection of tyres and that is what i have found.

I have been told by the bridgstone dealer today
that on paper the RE040 / RE050 is a much better trye....

the RE001 looks like a more agressive street racing tyre compared to the RE040/050

they are reasonably cheap compared to the RE050.....

on paper RE050 wins hands down...
intresting u saying the RE001 is a better tyre... but personal experiance is what i am after so cheers buddy :)

[MickmeMate]

I paid about $250.00 a tyre for 235/40 18 ku36. If your car is a weekender you should seriously consider these. A mate of mine ran a 1.42 on these tyres.

Wow thats pretty expensive mate Tempe tyres in Sydney selling them for $200 a pop.
Also to the op Mate i just had Kuhmo KU31's put on and for the money they are extremley good in the wet.

[READA]

Wow thats pretty expensive mate Tempe tyres in Sydney selling them for $200 a pop.
Also to the op Mate i just had Kuhmo KU31's put on and for the money they are extremley good in the wet.

Just spoke to John @ Protek tyres
he said the kuhmo at about $170 fitted are not the best in the wet...
he will do the bridgstones RE040 which the andredlian is replaceing for $250 fitted..... as they are trying to get rid of them coz they are discontuined from what i was told....

[READA]

Just like to mention i am now after a 235/40 R 18
As "Planetdavo" and a few tyre shops have told me better to stick with the 235/40

[lollymanv8]

Personally, the yoko advan sport is the go. Plenty grip but do wear out very quickly.

[READA]

Ended up getting the 4 x bridgstone 235/40 RE040
$250 each fitted at the bridgstone dealer next to my office..

Tell ya what they are a Magical tyre in the wet and Perfect in the dry
Traction has gone thorugh the roof

Such a big differance from the Cheap tyres to a Real quality tyre :)

Thanks for all the help guys! :goodjob:

Note to self never get cheap tyres EVER! :)

[surfwagon]

Personally, the yoko advan sport is the go. Plenty grip but do wear out very quickly.

I'm running them in 19's on my senator, this is the the 3rd set and have been getting 30000k's out of them and thats 2yrs which I'm happy with.
Afterall you don't want your tyres getting too old as they get hard.
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/passenger/care/age.aspx

[surfwagon]

Ended up getting the 4 x bridgstone 235/40 RE040
$250 each fitted at the bridgstone dealer next to my office..

Tell ya what they are a Magical tyre in the wet and Perfect in the dry
Traction has gone thorugh the roof

Such a big differance from the Cheap tyres to a Real quality tyre :)

Thanks for all the help guys! :goodjob:

Note to self never get cheap tyres EVER! :)

Great to see you are happy with your choice as that is all that matters aside from what people tell you.

[Red CV8 R]

Hi guys
just been to the bridgstone dealer near my office in hawthorn...

RE040 are currently on special in a 235/40 18 for $260 fitted...
he also told me to stay away from the 245 as the benfit is extreamly minimal and the speedo will be out...

He also told me the RE050 which is $593... is not that much better for $333 extra per tyre....

I run 235 Bridgestone RE001s on the front and rear for trips but normal street driving is the RE001s on the front and 245 Toyo RA1s on the rear and it does make a big difference when running the RA1s. The compound helps but a the extra width doesnt hurt either. Looks good too. I want to run something bigger on the rear but it means changing the wheels. My car just wheel spins with any "normal" street tyre. Waste of time.

[dyno junkie]

Hi mate i was only after the 245.. as its the biggest tyre i can fit under the gard (with out rolling)
and an extra 10mil of tyre on the road cannot be a bad thing right ??

I use to run 265/35/18's under the rear of our CV8 without any guard rolling.

Only need the guards rolled when went up to 275/30/19's on 19" x 9.5".

[VYSHSV8]

I use to run 265/35/18's under the rear of our CV8 without any guard rolling.

Only need the guards rolled when went up to 275/30/19's on 19" x 9.5".

Correct you will need a little more than just rolling when ya go larger than 275-285 widths though the 305's I had under my Vy needed the guards pumped :):)

[MNRO57]

My choice would be to stick with Yokohama Advan Sport. The price you were quoted is way to high. Should be able to get for around $400. I have been running these tyres for years. I started with Advan V102 and the Current sport V103. I am currently running Yoko Advan AD08, and they are the best tyre i have driven on. I would not touch bridgstone. You would be able to get more than 22-23k out of them. With my driving i get around 30-34k with the advasn sports. Obviously less if you like to burn rubber. Call traction tyres in Rowville for prices. You will not be disapointed. Don't waste $500 on bridgestones as they are second class.

[Red CV8 R]

I use to run 265/35/18's under the rear of our CV8 without any guard rolling.



Can I ask what wheels/ offset? I am keen to try and get 265s under the rear of my car.

[scotty82]

Those MA-Z1 victras are very good bang for buck, Last a long time and handle well, id stay with that tyre

Yes I have a set of these on my ute. Heaps of tread, not too noisy, good in the wet. Got 40 000km out of mine and fried the daylights out of them. Pretty cheap too. I think I paid $170 a tyre fitted.