Another Problem, Now Electrical.

[BECAUZ]

After having my clutch, tailshaft, driveshaft and both CV's replaced my car finally seemed perfect again ( With only 18000Km's )

Firstly I'll talk about the lead up just incase its the cause for the latest bungle with the car.

Saturday night off to dinner. Waiting at a set of traffic lights, first car, hoping to turn left once the light goes green. Light goes green about to take off and then i notice an ambulance coming in the oncoming lane so i decide to wait and let the ambulance pass as its what the law states. While waiting the car behind decides to give me a love tap. He managed to hit the rear left side of the bumper which has left a scrap on the bumper which is a little hard to see but is there.

After finally getting the guy to stop and hear how its not his fault, i manage to convince the guy to exchange details and Im back on track to filling up my stomach with beer and food.

Almost there now and the car decides to beep loudly and show a " X Contact Dealer " i push the ok button on the steering wheel and it drops of to the bottom with "X Service" lit up.

Now looking around it seems the thermostat is not working and has dropped to below the C but the centre console display is at 105c. The Air Con also seems to not work.

Has anyone had this problem? I've tried the search button but cant seem to find any info about it. The cars has a rough idle at start up as well. i've just dropped the car off to holden but the guys could not tell me what it is without looking at it.

Sorry for the story, but had to get it out. Oh and the dweeb who hit me thinks its not his fault. Could the two be related? And when a bumper is hit does it normally pop back out? Coz it doesn't look like theres too much damage other then the paint needs a bit of a buff.

[moconn20]

Oh and the dweeb who hit me thinks its not his fault.

If this aspect of it turns into a sh1t fight with the other driver, PM me exact time and place and i should be able to get written confirmation for you that the ambulance was passing through that intersection, at the time, lights and sirens.

[BECAUZ]

Thanks moconn. Will let you know. Just got off the phone with insurance and as i suspected wasn't my fault.

[mummbles]

If this aspect of it turns into a sh1t fight with the other driver, PM me exact time and place and i should be able to get written confirmation for you that the ambulance was passing through that intersection, at the time, lights and sirens.

Not that he shold need that, if you get hit from behind it is automatically the person behinds fault for failing to give way etc.

[moconn20]

...if you get hit from behind it is automatically the person behinds fault for failing to give way etc.

99.9% of the time.

I've been to a few accidents where the driver in front has been ticketed...
3 seperate incidents actually, where for varied reasons (stupidity, road rage) the driver in front has either slammed on the brakes for no reason, or swerved in front and slammed on the brakes.

Also been to a few 5/6/7 car nose to tail pile ups where many of the cars pull up in time, but subsequently get rammed into the car in front by the 3 cars behind them that dont stop in time.

[HEXEM]

car decides to beep loudly and show a " X Contact Dealer " i push the ok button on the steering wheel and it drops of to the bottom with "X Service" lit up.

it seems the thermostat is not working and has dropped to below the C but the centre console display is at 105c. The Air Con also seems to not work.

These 2 issues will be the cause of the X contact dealer and I don't think that they are related to the knob touching you up the back at the lights. However I am not a tech so I might be wrong. Having dropped it off at Holden they should have been able to hook up tech-2 and check DTC faults for the temp and HVAC system. It would be best to wait till they have checked for fault codes, otherwise you could be chasing your tail (endlessly).

On the issue of rough startup idle, does it do it all the time or just when 'Hot' or 'Cold'. Mine currently does this at cold start and I have changed all engine sensors, PCV hoses,,etc (not changed the ECM or Throttle body.. TB from holden costs $1,500 :eek:). I have been told it could very well be a mechanical fault with the ECM (main computer).

Phil

[mummbles]

related to the knob touching you up the back at the lights.

No, I'd hazard that would be a "hole" nuther set of problems in traffic.

[HEXEM]

No, I'd hazard that would be a "hole" nuther set of problems in traffic.

pay that one.. :rofl:

[BECAUZ]

Ok well since getting it back and holden resttting it it has happened again.Holden tech has stated that he has found the Mass air flow out of range and the coolant temp sensor reading is incorrect and found engine temp at -40 C which is causing the engine to over fuel and rough idle and deactivates the AC.

He has noted that the ECU was after market tuned and should be returned to place of tune. And then charged me $88.

Now that its happened less then 24 hours later, i spoke to oztrack and he rekons its either the coolant temp sensor or the IAT sensor.

I know where the IAT is but anyone know where the coolant temp sensor is? And how do i work out if that itself is the faulty component?

Im kind of stuck and need a vehicle as this is the only one i have. I still have to go to the nrma assessment centre this arvo is it bad to drive the car the way it is?

All your help is kindly appreciated in advance!

[HEXEM]

I know where the IAT is but anyone know where the coolant temp sensor is? And how do i work out if that itself is the faulty component?

Mate, the part number for the coolent temp sensor for L98 (VE SS) is GMH #12608814 and costs approximately $41. I beleive the sensor is located on the engine block just near the power steering pump, but I could be wrong. I have been told it is in an easy to get at position.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
Phil

[swingtan]

Coolant temp sender is in the passenger side head. To the front just above the spark plug. It can be seen clearly here....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/2792214126_dc199cf371_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/swingtan/sets/72157606917622732/)

Simon.

[SS Enforcer]

I think it's the HVAC system playing up as the air con isn't working properly so you state. The temp giving 2 different readings is a bit weird as well like the gauge is reading 105c and showing cold on the dash display :confused:

Probably change the temp sensor then ask Steve to flash the stock tune back in and if it still does it back to Holden and make em fix it properly. Then get Steve to reflash the tune back into it. Holden will blame just about anything on the tune... I had an o2 sensor fail then the new 02 failed and GM initially wanted to blame it all on a small airbox mod I did.

cheers

[BECAUZ]

Coolant temp sender is in the passenger side head. To the front just above the spark plug. It can be seen clearly here....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/2792214126_dc199cf371_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/swingtan/sets/72157606917622732/)

Simon.

Thans Simon but found it thanks to dus. Must say he is one of the friendliest most helpful blokes I have ever met. Bent over backwards and helped me prove that it was not the IAT sensor on the duspeed OTRCAI.

Now the only thing i can pin it to is an intermittent failure with the coolant temp sensor. At the moment it has re-occured after taking out the ECM2 fuse out in the boot and ressetting the comp. Hopefully it doesn't return but if it does that'll be the next step.


I think it's the HVAC system playing up as the air con isn't working properly so you state. The temp giving 2 different readings is a bit weird as well like the gauge is reading 105c and showing cold on the dash display :confused:

Probably change the temp sensor then ask Steve to flash the stock tune back in and if it still does it back to Holden and make em fix it properly. Then get Steve to reflash the tune back into it. Holden will blame just about anything on the tune... I had an o2 sensor fail then the new 02 failed and GM initially wanted to blame it all on a small airbox mod I did.

cheers

Tell me about it. What an absolute joke. After speaking to steve and learning that the coolant temp sensor has nothing to contribute to the tune what so ever i spoke to holden and informed them, and there reply was " oh we didnt know that". After asking if i could get my money back as they done f**k all, they simply said no we looked at it didn't we.?.


Im in the process of writing a letter to the head office of Holden to inform them of the incompetent people they have running these franchises that are out there ruining the reputation of there brand. These thieves not only treat you like an idiot but can't even fix the simplest of problems but then refuse to explain how they can take your money for a service which has not been offered and simpy say " thats just how it works"

[pandan9]

Hi Becauz,

Did you end up fixing this issue?

I have had the same fault and have had my VE back to Holden a few times.

They reset the computer and it comes back a few days later.

Now they are telling me it may be a comms fault between the dash and the sensor.