Holden designers win international award

[VX2VESS]

he Australian designed Chevrolet Camaro has taken out a major award ahead of more highly fancied competition. Here’s a bunch of Aussies who know how to build a good car. Better still, here’s a bunch of Aussies who know how to make the best-designed two-door coupe in the world.
Holden is this week glowing in the announcement that the locally designed and developed interpretation of the Chevrolet Camaro - putting a modern sway on the iconic US muscle car - has been branded the 2010 World Car Design of the Year ahead of a strong field of European luxury rivals and Japanese marques.
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/holden-designers-win-international-award-20100407-rrel.html

[Knawful]

Good chit.

Hopefully this might induce them into releasing them here.

[FPVkiller]

or make another monaro!!!

[Darkrayne]

$130k for one of those here.... youch!

[clubbie]

Factory RHD Camaro was officially canned a few weeks ago.

Reason given was lack off demand from Australia. Apparently Holden did not step up with the necessary order numbers.

I have been hanging for the Camaro for two years now. It hurts that we designed and engineered it, the car is kicking ass in the states (as I am sure the VE would given a chance), winning awards and we do not get to drive it or own it.

Well done to the Boys and Girls at Holden.

[SINISTER R8]

thats great news. just shows how great Holden are. pitty they wont bring the Camaro here, i think it would sell great numbers, if priced right. but that has been spoken of heaps on here.

but still good news on Holden winning the award.

[moconn20]

Good chit.

Hopefully this might induce them into releasing them here.

No it just means GM will poach all of Holden's talent

[bok1]

bugga would have been great to have it released here.


phil

[V-Car]

Hate to be a party pooper, but no-one at Holden designed the Camaro.

Yes it is on a Zeta platform like VE, and Holden was given the job of engineering it from GMNA's design brief, but exterior design was done by Sangyup Lee from GM's US studios under the direction of Tom Peters, Director of Design RWD Performance Vehicles.
He grew up in Korea and joined GM 10 years ago after graduating from the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California.
He has since left to join Volkswagen.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/camaro-designer-departs-for-volkswagen/

http://www.clanhop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3046&postcount=1

If you read the official press release, Holden isnt mentioned.

http://www.wcoty.com/media/?release=59&year=2010

Drive = Fail!

[SINISTER R8]

Hate to be a party pooper, but no-one at Holden designed the Camaro.

Yes it is on a Zeta platform like VE, and Holden was given the job of engineering it from GMNA's design brief, but exterior design was done by Sangyup Lee from GM's US studios under the direction of Tom Peters, Director of Design RWD Performance Vehicles.
He grew up in Korea and joined GM 10 years ago after graduating from the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California.
He has since left to join Volkswagen.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/27/camaro-designer-departs-for-volkswagen/

http://www.clanhop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3046&postcount=1

If you read the official press release, Holden isnt mentioned.

http://www.wcoty.com/media/?release=59&year=2010

Drive = Fail!

well thats a let down. oh well, i still think Holden should win awards for the Commodore for their looks, bloody great looking cars IMO, thats what i loved first about them all those years ago.

[ryno]

Sangyup Lee was assigned and working for Holden at the time he penned the design, regardless of his origins the design team as a whole worked hard to make it happen. He may have done the design but he wouldn't have done all the designing.

Being fortunate enough to Speak to the guys at the design team in the past they have put a lot of design effort into the caaro and deserve the pat on the back. Google Tony Stolfos name and you will see some more info

[v8dude78]

Either way its a damn sexy car and i wish i had one :bawl:

[V-Car]

Sangyup Lee was assigned and working for Holden at the time he penned the design

Not so.
If you read the links i posted i think youll find that all the exterior design was done in the US with the show car being built in 2005, long before Holden got involved.
He didnt come to Australia till after the concept had been built and shown at the Detroit Auto Show to help in grafting his design onto Zeta.

And i know who Stolfo is, he's the guy who ripped off Boyd Coddingtons 'Cadzilla" for Efijy. Its even a similar colour to Boyd's car.

These guys can put their spin on anything. How they can claim they had a hand in exterior design of Camaro is beyond me.

The award was for 'WCOTY Design' and that was totally done in the US.
Holden engineered it later.

BTW, at the same awards, the WCOTY for complete car went to the Volkswagen Polo.

http://www.wcoty.com/media/?release=57&year=2010

[VYSHSV8]

Well said Ross

Btw how is life over there :):)


Cheers
Drew

[V-Car]

Well said Ross

Btw how is life over there :):)


Cheers
Drew

Gday Drew, life's great here thanks, not too keen on the humidity after Perth though.

[LooneyR8]

Not so.

And i know who Stolfo is, he's the guy who ripped off Boyd Coddingtons 'Cadzilla" for Efijy. Its even a similar colour to Boyd's car.

These guys can put their spin on anything. How they can claim they had a hand in exterior design of Camaro is beyond me.



Everybody rips somebody off. Codington didnt design 'Cadzilla'. It was designed by Larry Erickson who was working for GM at the time as head of Cadillac styling and the sheet metal work was done by Craig Naff who happened to be working for Boyd during the cars build.

Having said that. It takes many hands to go from concept through to final product and all those involved should be congratulated.

[tyrhantc]

Gday Drew, life's great here thanks, not too keen on the humidity after Perth though.

Haha...we are built a bit tougher over here. :box:

[gmh308]

Not so.
If you read the links i posted i think youll find that all the exterior design was done in the US with the show car being built in 2005, long before Holden got involved.
He didnt come to Australia till after the concept had been built and shown at the Detroit Auto Show to help in grafting his design onto Zeta.

And i know who Stolfo is, he's the guy who ripped off Boyd Coddingtons 'Cadzilla" for Efijy. Its even a similar colour to Boyd's car.

These guys can put their spin on anything. How they can claim they had a hand in exterior design of Camaro is beyond me.



Its a matter of terminology mate. Typically lost on a journo though.

Sang Yup did the original artwork and of course must be credited with what the Camaro looks like. Yes this can be called "design" even if it is a work of art by an artist. And the Camaro is a true work of art as recognised by the WCOTY award. The guy is a true wizard.

The "Exterior Design" was done in Australia by Holden (GM's rear wheel drive centre of excellence - a reputation earned from producing the VE/G8) as part of a global team effort. These are the guys and gals that turn the artwork into a mass producible item from and including the exterior surface inwards.

The majority of the work was done in Oz. Pure and simple. The Holden guys in Melbourne in conjunction with their US and other global counterparts did a fantastic job of getting Sang Yup's work solid and running.

Whether they actually did a lot of the tooling (dies for panels/structure, body assembly engineering, etc etc etc) in oz has never really been made public, but it does have a north american copy of the ZF VE rear axle, and of course the transmission and engine options from north america as well.

A great world car effort. Just a pity it probably wont get into right hand drive. :( :( :(

[VYSHSV8]

Gday Drew, life's great here thanks, not too keen on the humidity after Perth though.

Ah good to hear mate :):) yeh sux about the humidity though :(


Give me a call if ya heading over this way again mate

[V-Car]

Give me a call if ya heading over this way again mate

Will do Drew. :goodjob:

[dawkinsdisciple]

i thought holden'd had a significant hand in the engineering side too... it looks good but as GM said it takes a lot more then one person to build a car. holden should be congratulated for any effort they input into it. even if they didn't quite build the whole car...

and comparing the camaro and the mustang they both look pretty good but the camaro's multi-link set up and chasis has to be a shit load better then the solid rear axle in the stang... even if it is pretty quick standard.

i nightly pray to whoever deities are out there that they somehow get a cut price coupe60 to market... that car is just absolutely sublime
definately looks a damn side better then the camaro, if i had to choose which i'd take, it'd be a no-brainer
but yep, not going to happen

[TexasGoat]

Please feel free to take ours.
I could literally throw a rock and hit at least 2 new Camaros :(

[Evman]

Please feel free to take ours.
I could literally throw a rock and hit at least 2 new Camaros :(

Bought new for a price 1/4 of what we'd pay. Imagine how cheap they'd be second hand if they're really that common :drool: :bawl:

[SCiFiRE]

Just to be clear, Sangyup Lee and Tom Peters were responsible for the Camaro styling - Originally, The 2006 Camaro concept car.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5687/2006chevroletcamaroconcxu3.jpg

But that's not where the 'design' stops... It fell to Holden (who had experience with Zeta) to take that concept and make it a mass-producable vehicle. Proportions had to change, roof had to lift, parts had to fit, safety requirements had to be met (and this is not just an engineering exercise). All this while keeping the aggressive styling. I'm sure you've all seen concept cars get to production and they look horribly wrong, because they couldn't keep the look aswell as meet the requirements - Well this is a prime example of someone doing it right. If you manage to see the concept and production cars side by side, they're quite different... Article here has some more detail: http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/3D6656DC643B8AAFCA25748F00018967

and while we're being so pedantic about crediting the correct person for designs, You're comment about Tony Stolfo "Ripping off Cadzilla" is way off. Even if Efijy was "ripped off", Tony Stolfo didn't Design it. Though he was in charge of Holden's design department when Richard Ferlazzo designed it.