V6 VN SS - was such a thing ever built?

[OzJavelin]

Re: http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8739746&__Qpb=true&Cr=13&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965857% 204294965745%204294933351%20443&silo=1011&PriceTo=443&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=43&__sid=128B095DFCF9

** I am not the advertiser, don't know the advertiser and don't even live in the same state!! **

I've seen VT V6 SS's before, but I'm assuming this is a conversion?

I remember seeing a '69 Pontiac Firebird with a 202 Holden engine in it .. this is almost as bad ..

[andrewslr]

I don't believe a V6 VN SS was ever offered. Doesn't sound right.

Most definitely was available in the VP model. Around 6-7 may have been built, one was raced by Peter Fitzgerald (of Porsche fame) in the series production races of the era.

[Buckd1ch]

Weird... It says 8 cylinder 5L in the Engine description. But in his description it says 3.8L :confused:

EDIT: I don't think ive ever seen a 5L engine before but the picture of his engine bay certainly only looks like a 3.8L 6 cylinder?

[brawlr]

yep definatly a 6. im thinking mock up?

[Road Warrior]

Weird. If it is a mockup, the level of detail is pretty high, with all the badges and stripes and whatnot. But definitely a V6.

Were the BT1 cars outfitted with SS gear and trim as early as the VN? I know in the VR days they were.

[calais190]

Gotta be a mock up. It has a badge on the rear, and it's a tad fuzzy but it looks like the V8 5.0 badge to me. Why would holden put a V8 badge on a 3.8L from factory? They wouldn't. Some bloke who wanted an SS and bought a S, and decided to chuck the kit and stickers on, would put the badge on.

[bush_basha]

could even be a ss, and they have taken the engine out and put a 6 in it, it definately doesnt look right tho

[stumps57L]

Im pretty sure i've read before that they did release a v6 vn ss. As there were a few hsv models at the time that came out as a 6 aswell but are super rare sv3600 springs to mind.

[CLUBRED]

VN's were S packs, VP's had a 6 SS.

[hRTHSV]

That's definitely the 5.0 V8 badge on the back, maybe they blew it up or are keeping the motor and that's why they fitted the V6.

[VXSS346]

If it was a genuine factoy SS V6 like he says it is, it wouldn't have had a 5.0L V8 badge on the back. :lmao::lmao::lmao:


Some people are just so full of it.
:bs:

Only the VPSS and VTSS S1 ever had V6 engines fitted from factory.

Cheers :)

[planetdavo]

The 9th letter of the VIN will be an H if built as a V6, and a U if a V8.

[MJR-57T]

He's up the road from me, might pay to go have a look and see what he dribbles

Looks like he's just pulled a full kit of a VN SS, 5L badge and all lol

[MJR-57T]

If it was a genuine factoy SS V6 like he says it is, it wouldn't have had a 5.0L V8 badge on the back. :lmao::lmao::lmao:


Some people are just so full of it.
:bs:

Only the VPSS and VTSS S1 ever had V6 engines fitted from factory.

Cheers :)

Weren't the VT SS's super 6's

[MJR-57T]

6h8vnk19ull388177

Looks like it might have been an 8 in a past life

[C4B]

Weren't the VT SS's super 6's

Yes, the 6's were Supercharged. I remember when I bought my VT"SS" the dealer kept saying, you'll have to wait "X" for the V8 but we can deliver you a S/C 6 this week!

Because no-one wanted to buy them.................... (neither did I)

[CLUBRED]

Planetdavo should be able to plug that into the system. Does the rego sticker say V6? Revs check should pin point when the engine was changed if it was done legit.

My uncle has a HSV VN V6, I thought it was an LE but a quick check says no 6's were built LE. It is two tone, basic body kit and meshy (criss cross) style alloys (not the Walkinshaw type that the SV6 and SV89 came with).

[MJR-57T]

Got a msg back


Yea mate its a factory 5 litre, still registered as a 5L. Has had a 3.8L 5 speed conversion put in about 3 years ago.

No thankyou. Would have been a nice 2nd runabout car for the missus if it was genuine

[C4B]

Planetdavo should be able to plug that into the system. Does the rego sticker say V6? Revs check should pin point when the engine was changed if it was done legit.

My uncle has a HSV VN V6, I thought it was an LE but a quick check says no 6's were built LE. It is two tone, basic body kit and meshy (criss cross) style alloys (not the Walkinshaw type that the SV6 and SV89 came with).

The only VN V6 I can remember was the SV3800, but it had Walky style wheels on it.

[MJR-57T]

Planetdavo should be able to plug that into the system. Does the rego sticker say V6? Revs check should pin point when the engine was changed if it was done legit.

My uncle has a HSV VN V6, I thought it was an LE but a quick check says no 6's were built LE. It is two tone, basic body kit and meshy (criss cross) style alloys (not the Walkinshaw type that the SV6 and SV89 came with).

Thats the SV3800 isn't it

[CLUBRED]

Def not a Sv3800, argh this is hurting my brain trying to remember, I'd tell you where its parked right now but it's already been stolen about 500 times because of where he parks it. I've seen a couple in this guise to, so definately a genuine HSV model.

I think these are the rims:

http://www.wheelking.com.au/Wheels/tabid/196/ctl/ViewItem/mid/649/item/94/Default.aspx

[MJR-57T]

Its not plus 6 is it, somehow that rings a bell

[fishla]

There was a HSV plus 6 and Plus 8 in the SS (Series II)

From memory.

Cheers,
Andy

edit: Ahh i remember the 8 plus sticker. Always wanted one of those bad boys (Had a white S pack for first car)! hahahaha
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6016/img00336201002071618.jpg

[Road Warrior]

Yea mate its a factory 5 litre, still registered as a 5L. Has had a 3.8L 5 speed conversion put in about 3 years ago.

Why why WHY on earth would you swap the 5.0 for the V6 :fewl:

Especially in a genuine SS :weirdo:



Thats the SV3800 isn't it

I'm pretty sure the SV3800 only came in one colour too...dark blue or summat

[CLUBRED]

Bingo:

http://www.squaredarches.com/Images/VN/ls005.jpg

http://www.squaredarches.com/lspics.htm

I can sleep easy tonight...:eyes:

[end thread hijack - maybe]

OMG - VN DMG, I had one as a poster on my bedroom wall.... drool.... It's all coming back to me

[Marco]

Isn't that just the runout special VN LS pictured here? Came out just before the VP along with the VN LE IIRC.

[hypo30]

not sure if its true of the ss but holden sent the vp gts to new zealand with v6's

[CLUBRED]

Isn't that just the runout special VN LS pictured here? Came out just before the VP along with the VN LE IIRC.

Probably...


LS

•PRICE ON RELEASE - $28990
•CODE - N/A
•ENGINE OPTIONS - 3.8litre V6
•RELEASE DATE - July 1991
•END DATE - Limited run of 300 sedans for Australian markets and 130 sedans and 20 wagons for New Zealand (ended September 1991)
•KERB WEIGHT - N/A
•BODY STYLE - Sedan & Wagon (Wagon in NZ only)

•DISTINGUISHING FEATURES:
•Overview - The last released and cheapest HSV VN and timed- whether by coincidence or design- to counter the imminent release of the EB Falcon. Although listed as a 3.8litre V6, at least one of the Australian sedans was optioned with a 5.0litre V8. Although no LS wagons were made available to Australian buyers, an enhancement pack was available to bring any Holden wagon to LS spec

•Mechanical - No changes to the factory 6
•Interior - Calais steering wheel , HSV retrimmed seats matching Statesman striped velour inserts in seats and diagonal pattern door trims with optional power pack
•Exterior - Available in Atlas Grey or Imperial Blue over Asteroid Silver in a two tone paint scheme, SV3800 letter box grill, front and rear bumpers and side skirts, wrap over rear spoiler, body colour boot garnish, smoked tail light lenses, LS decals on rear on front wheel arches, HSV logo moulded into driver side rear spoiler and Commodore LS decal on passenger side rear spoiler. HSV Sports Equipment alloy rims used with 7 pairs of silver spokes forming a star pattern with recessed center HSV badge and wheel nuts.

[CLUBRED]

not sure if its true of the ss but holden sent the vp gts to new zealand with v6's

VN aswell it would seem:


VN GTS (New Zealand)

•PRICE ON RELEASE - N/A
•CODE - N/A
•ENGINE OPTIONS - 3.8litre V6
•RELEASE DATE - N/A
•END DATE - N/A
•KERB WEIGHT - N/A
•BODY STYLE - Sedan

•DISTINGUISHING FEATURES:
•Overview - A dealer special order- not HSV- that's main selling point was the iconic GTS moniker. Available only in New Zealand

•Mechanical - Only available as a V6
•Interior - Red / Grey SS seats, level 2 dash, some optioned with power windows
•Exterior - GTS badges on guards and rear garnish, SS lower body kit (less spoiler), SV3800 style rear spoiler, 15inch GTS rims with approximately half being fitted with a sunroof.

http://www.squaredarches.com/vngtspics.htm

[Marco]

Must admit I didn't realise the LS was a HSV model until now.

[Steele304VS]

all ss's are v8's aren't they?

if i am wrong them i don't deserve to be on this forum

[Bingo BIlly]

Its a rare car. One of a kind, noone else stupid enough to junk an injected 5.0 for a v6

I can think of one other car which would give it a run for its money. A guy i know bought a vl commodore at auction. He was all happy about it until we pointed out it had a vk backend?? No lip and vk lights, the rear spoiler fooled him, his face went bright red, we pulled up the carpets to reveal welds, a cut n shut from two different models. Back in the day we called it a hybrid vk/vl, some called it the vl minotaur

[beno]

all ss's are v8's aren't they?

if i am wrong them i don't deserve to be on this forum

The VTSS came out with a supercharged six...

[feistl]

all ss's are v8's aren't they?

if i am wrong them i don't deserve to be on this forum

IIRC there was a number of early model commodore SS's with V6s. I think HSV exported a SS VN V6 to New Zealand? The SS/6 combo wasnt sold in Australia though (Excluding the VP SS V6 and VT SS Super 6)...

Dont quote that though, im not exactly sure (Just remember something about NZ getting V6 SS)

[maloo brent]

As well as I can remember there where no VN V6 SS in New Zealand, but they did get the VN HSV LS V6 as in the pic in this thread, the had the same interior trim as a SS. They also had the VN GTS V6 wich also had the SS trim, I actully owned one of each of them they were a great cars for a V6. the GTS came out with manual as well as auto, the LS auto only, I used to race the LS in the HSV club sprints in NZ (after converting to manual) cheapest HSV around.

[Streeter]

Re:

** I am not the advertiser, don't know the advertiser and don't even live in the same state!! **

I've seen VT V6 SS's before, but I'm assuming this is a conversion?

I remember seeing a '69 Pontiac Firebird with a 202 Holden engine in it .. this is almost as bad ..


Used to see a lot of 1970s 4 cylinder BMW 520s that had their 2 litre replaced with the Holden 202. Not a bad conversion.

[NickVR]

Found a link to a VP V6 SS, I'll post it when I find it.

[NickVR]

That didn't take long. Found it.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/338151

Here is some proof for the VP SS V6.

Well I think it is proof anyway.

[BLN215]

About 10 years ago i seen a VN SS in a dealer, apon closer inspection it was a V6 manual. At the time i did all the checking of VIn and model numbers etc and it was a genuine SS with a V6, the original owner had bought it from holden with the V6 optioned in. It was the weirdest thing but it was from the factory so they did make some one offs.

Looks like the one in this thread was converted though, probably a P driver wanting an SS and not being allowed to drive an 8

[Marco]

That didn't take long. Found it.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/338151

Here is some proof for the VP SS V6.

Well I think it is proof anyway.

I've got a copy of Motor, November 1992 which has a comparison test including a manual VP SS V6 in it. So yes, it's real!