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kpop
08-07-2010, 09:02 PM
so whats the law say in regards to people playing musical instruments at home ?

neighbors behind us, their kid jams away at all random times, with the window open. its now 9pm and his going nuts. don't they need to sound deaden the room or something ?

am seriously considering writing a nice letter to them, or is it better to complain straight to the council for these matters ?

vx_clubby
08-07-2010, 09:04 PM
Have you gone to to speak to the parents? That would be the first common sense thing to do. Let them know its disturbing you.

Tre-Cool
08-07-2010, 09:30 PM
Have you gone to to speak to the parents? That would be the first common sense thing to do. Let them know its disturbing you.
and if the above doesnt work. throw a brick through the window....

or better yet get a good sound system setup and play spice girls to them.

matthewfnorbert
08-07-2010, 09:30 PM
i have a rental property which has a single pane of acrylic over the entire window (help a little i suppose), insulation under the floor in that room only and extra in the roof above that room... must have been a past tenant which had a neighbour speak to them... don't know how well it worked though... worth a try as are heavy curtains.

FITZY777
08-07-2010, 09:42 PM
Speak to the kid and parents. Sort out a time limit.7:30 pm is when my youngest 2 go to bed and is prob a fair time for the noise to stop.

Could be worse if he wasn't interested in music he and his mates might be stealing your rims.

Rock up with a bottle or carton of beer on a coupla Fri nights, get plastered and run a mock in their house, and I bet the music stops earlier.

vt2vx
08-07-2010, 10:24 PM
when younger all mates were in a band, had the garage setup with sound deadening egg cartons etc

it was loud as hell inside could hardly hear it outside.

The Cook
08-07-2010, 10:33 PM
you could just write them a letter letting them know that as a community member your worried about the late night noise that is going on,then if it doesn't stop then you take the next step and because you didn't identify your self you don't have to worry about retaliation from them if later on as they wont know who dobbed them in...

Grommz
08-07-2010, 10:43 PM
Check your council for the noise laws in your area im pretty sure he's fine till 10pm on a weeknight.

When i had my own set in the garage I had people complain about me playing at 10am.. I checked with the council and they said u was fine from 8am so my neighbors are just lucky i didn't get up earlier.

These comments of bricks etc you blokes are idiots he's a kid enjoying himself there are sensible ways to go about this... Lob one through his window and I hope he returns the favor through your windscreen.

1340LOCO
09-07-2010, 12:21 AM
Check your council for the noise laws in your area im pretty sure he's fine till 10pm on a weeknight.

When i had my own set in the garage I had people complain about me playing at 10am.. I checked with the council and they said u was fine from 8am so my neighbors are just lucky i didn't get up earlier.

These comments of bricks etc you blokes are idiots he's a kid enjoying himself there are sensible ways to go about this... Lob one through his window and I hope he returns the favor through your windscreen.

That is so true, people tend to forget or have selective memory when i comes to what they did in there childhood to annoy people. Atleast he is not out wrecking the neighbourhood vandalising or putting graffiti everywhere.

Just remember if its to loud your to old!

Oh and just one last thing, if your car has exhaust ect, i bet more than one of your neighbours dont like the sound of that coming in on the odd occasion late at night or early leaving for work. It does work both ways mate.

1BEAST2NV
09-07-2010, 12:40 AM
yep, grow some kahoonas and go around the block and speak to them in person, they may not no its pissing ppl off....., a nice friendly chat from the neighbour over the fence never goes a stray.....

Its ppl that go to the authority whinging about ya neighbours cos there to chicken shit to say somethin them selves that have neighbours at war with each other,

Dont shit in ya own nest, especially when you have to live there.

BECAUZ
09-07-2010, 10:48 AM
break his wrists :D

atacus
09-07-2010, 10:59 AM
the cops can come around for a Noise disturbance at ANY time of the day. it only has to be "in their opinion" above the ambient noise level.

I am a drummer, and have had the cops round plenty of times in the past. Basically you should go talk to the kid in question. I know I was always more than happy to work with other people in my street, coz they live there too !

The kid just might not have thought about how it impacts on other people. Most musso's are fairly good people !

Nidz
09-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Buy yourself a guitar and you can make a band..

Knock on the door and ask them to quieten it down at night. If they don't comply wait till they are asleep and then put a speaker out the window and play death metal loud at them.

Knawful
09-07-2010, 11:19 AM
As said, pop over with a 1/2 dozen and discuss the issue with them...If all else fail's..

Bagpipe's. practicing on a Sundee mornin' in the back yard worked for the old fella up the road..

Knawful
09-07-2010, 11:21 AM
Buy yourself a guitar and you can make a band..

Knock on the door and ask them to quieten it down at night. If they don't comply wait till they are asleep and then put a speaker out the window and play death metal loud at them.


Or speaker out of window playing brown noise....Mmmm..frequencies.

vt2vx
09-07-2010, 11:23 AM
and they will say but your car is too noisy and dob you in as well.

well maybe if it is noisy i have no idea.

CunningStunter
09-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Check your council for the noise laws in your area im pretty sure he's fine till 10pm on a weeknight.

When i had my own set in the garage I had people complain about me playing at 10am.. I checked with the council and they said u was fine from 8am so my neighbors are just lucky i didn't get up earlier.

These comments of bricks etc you blokes are idiots he's a kid enjoying himself there are sensible ways to go about this... Lob one through his window and I hope he returns the favor through your windscreen.

In Canberra we can play up until 10-11pm I believe. My garage is lined so it's not very loud outside and I play guitar everyday. I also have drum machine and bass and record them playing together so it may aswell be a full band.

When we moved into our new house I actually spoke to my neighbours FIRST (notice how I said, 'Spoke with' instead of trying to use bricks/breaking ppls wrists to make my point) and explained to them that I play everyday, that if it EVER gets too loud to pop over, let me know and I'd turn it down immediately.

I have a massive Marshall stack and record against my own drums and bass and expected the whole street to be all over me immediately however 6 years on and not ONCE have they visited/complained even past midnight - granted mind you at this time I do tend to turn down a little bit because my own 3 kids are also sleeping but my shed is lined and very quiet as well - why not be positive, could you pop over and show some interest, give the young fella's a hand to sound proof it? You'd have alot more pull with them after that than you would have after bricks are thrown.

Somtimes I've play so loud I wear ear plugs, the shed/earth are SHAKING and I thought 'geez my neighbours MUST surely be getting the shits' so I stopped, MADE a quick visit next door and they asked me to turn it UP! This was whilst I was playing Sweet Child/GNR and coming from a 45yr old single lady and her 70+year old mother!!!

In case you hadn't noticed I'm also VERY +1 on the bricks comment from Grommz and others.
OP - That's a seriously stupid idea and if you through a brick through MY window I'd be more than a little PISSED and would definately retaliate regardless of whether you'd come around to chat with me first or not - and I'm a 30+year old with regard for those around me, unlike some of us as teenagers (probably all of us!)

NOW imagine said brick has hit my 50K race bike, or hit one of my $5000 guitars, or ANY of my gear for that matter (lets not even think about if your brick hits someone in the head and hurts/kills them you're in deep shit) then you're gonna have a mighty massive fight on your hands. Legal fight perhaps or maybe I'll just get VERY nasty and start back at YOU, YOUR cars, YOUR house, YOUR pets for a very very very long time. To the poster on broken wrists, I'll burn your house to the ****ing ground! LOL

Mate please I plead, whatever you do DON'T threaten or use bricks - can I ask do you own your house? Are your neighbours owners/renters? Do you EVER have parties, turn up music (although it's obvious you're no musician so CDs for you I guess) do you have a loud system on your car? A bit of give and take/tolerance goes A LONG way as would giving them a hand to sound proof their practice spot - sure it's not your responsibility BUT they are TOTALLY within their LEGAL right to play after 9PM so if you want some peace and quiet I'd be going the helpful route VS hateful route.

HARSH? Perhaps....... :flipoff:

Tre-Cool
09-07-2010, 11:47 AM
jesus ladies, it was joke.

get over it.

i would think common sense for anyone would be to knock on the door and have a word with them.

tyrhantc
09-07-2010, 11:58 AM
Could be worse if he wasn't interested in music he and his mates might be stealing your rims.


Bloody delinquent drummers, scourge of the planet. He probably does this after finishing bashing on his saucepans...:)

CLUBRED
09-07-2010, 12:11 PM
the cops can come around for a Noise disturbance at ANY time of the day.

Allot of people disregard this, it's 100% true. And if it continues they have the right to confiscate I believe. I live near some big warehouses and in turn allot of shift workers, generally its a quiet place to live 24/7 because of this - people who make noise tend not to last long in my area (recently a rental was removed/evicted by police for constant loud music and loud cars).

1BEAST2NV
09-07-2010, 12:21 PM
when he's not home, jump the fence and steel his drum kit, then you just have to listen to him cry:lmao: :rofl::jester::jester: (sarcasm intended)



Common sence goes along way, its amazing what a friendly chat to the neighbours can do to keep the piece :), they are human after all

Razor 05
09-07-2010, 01:52 PM
You will find under the law he is well with-in his rights to play a musical instrument at home, but as mentioned before check with your local council for the times of day for noise restrictions for your area.

There's no real difference if somebody playing a cd up loud, using machinery or power tools at home eg. angle grinder, chain saw, blower vac or compactor etc or even reving your car. Some cars are louder than somebody playing the drums so its give and take with both parties.

I play the drums at home, but I am always aware of the time of day, how long I play for and what the neighbors think so I always do as much sound deadening as I can to cut down the noise before I play.

kpop
09-07-2010, 06:10 PM
These comments of bricks etc you blokes are idiots he's a kid enjoying himself there are sensible ways to go about this... Lob one through his window and I hope he returns the favor through your windscreen.

i agree with you 100%. im not pissed off about the fact that he is playing an instrument, i just want to know what the law is. i know his a kid and wants to jam out, its just that it can get a bit annoying at times. especially when he leaves his window open every time so its just that much louder

also, im not afraid to pop over and have a chat, its just that some people take these the very wrong way, and since they are directly behind me, i do not want to start any sort of war.

kpop
09-07-2010, 06:19 PM
Mate please I plead, whatever you do DON'T threaten or use bricks - can I ask do you own your house? Are your neighbours owners/renters? Do you EVER have parties, turn up music (although it's obvious you're no musician so CDs for you I guess) do you have a loud system on your car? A bit of give and take/tolerance goes A LONG way as would giving them a hand to sound proof their practice spot - sure it's not your responsibility BUT they are TOTALLY within their LEGAL right to play after 9PM so if you want some peace and quiet I'd be going the helpful route VS hateful route.

HARSH? Perhaps....... :flipoff:

just want to confirm, that is the views of others, not me. i live in a very good suburb, not trailer trash like you see on today tonight. no way would bricks or anything be thrown.

currently i would do the following:
1. check local drum laws - if sound deadning is required, times they can play etc
2. write a letter, stating my concerns, and remind them of the local laws
3. if after a month (more then enough time to make any changes) nothing changes, then i will contact the council

as i said before, some people just go completely nuts when asked to do something, and its not worth it to me so live in fear of damage to property just over a small issue. i would rather remain anonymous and let the law handle it.

1BEAST2NV
09-07-2010, 06:28 PM
rarely they take it the wrong way if you approach them with the same respect you deserve.

Its only usually if the person going over gets all hot under the collar about it for leaving it so long to doing something about it and starts getting agro that it usually turns into a shit fight.....

just be karm and plascid about it, ya not going to starts a fight, your just asking for a bit of common decentsy and respect for a neighbour with youngens like anyone else would...,

if his parents cant understand that, they are a bunch of retards....(there kids were babys too so im sure they'd understand)

IF NOT, and that fails....

"then" go to the authorities and seek action


kpop....as i said before, some people just go completely nuts when asked to do something, and its not worth it to me so live in fear of damage to property just over a small issue. i would rather remain anonymous and let the law handle it.

:confused: thought you said you lived in a "very good suburb", why would you live in fear if you live in a good suburb??
IMO....man up and grow a back bone, (not having a go at you) but its ppl like you that piss neighbours off cos 'YOU' dont have the respect to give them a chance, and just put a piss weak letter in the mail box or just go whinging to the authorities with out even a chance...... take a person on face value, not the actions of there kids.

mac06
09-07-2010, 07:04 PM
as i said before, some people just go completely nuts when asked to do something, and its not worth it to me so live in fear of damage to property just over a small issue. i would rather remain anonymous and let the law handle it.

That's what you really need to ask yourself. If it's a small issue then just learn to live with it. If it's a big issue and your neighbourhood is good then you should have no problem approaching the neigbours in a calm manner. A few weeks ago I had the guy across the road using his electric drill in his open garage at 6.30am. I went across and mentioned it wasn't a good time to be doing that. He apologized and stopped immediately. Later when I left for work he stopped me and apologized again. It was no biggy but all the neighbours get on well in the street and I didn't feel it would be an issue talking to him about it.

iloveholden
09-07-2010, 07:16 PM
Its probably been said but maybe buy the kid some drum pads...then go over and have a chat, tell them it bothers you say after 7:30pm and if he could use the pads after that please.

The drums dull the noise, even though the drums make basically the same sound :)

Tre-Cool
09-07-2010, 07:18 PM
If you do go over to chat to them, be casual about it and put in some requests. :lol:

When i lived in a block of flats in Dampier the guy below me would have a couple of mates come over on weekends and they would jam out all sorts of music till midnight etc.

I would just yell out my requests from my bed and the guys would do it. was funny as hell and they were pretty bloody good at it too!

kpop
09-07-2010, 08:45 PM
:confused: thought you said you lived in a "very good suburb", why would you live in fear if you live in a good suburb??


unfortunatly, just because i live in a good suburb, doesnt mean the people are all incredibly nice. as i said before, when confronted, even with such basic issues, what would seem to be a nice person, can go mental.

Fabio's CV8
09-07-2010, 10:26 PM
unfortunatly, just because i live in a good suburb, doesnt mean the people are all incredibly nice. as i said before, when confronted, even with such basic issues, what would seem to be a nice person, can go mental.

Give it a try. (Do it in daylight) The council will probably make you do that first before they get involved.

seldo
09-07-2010, 10:50 PM
As said, pop over with a 1/2 dozen and discuss the issue with them...If all else fail's..

Bagpipe's. practicing on a Sundee mornin' in the back yard worked for the old fella up the road..Amidst all the stupid bick-throwing nonsense, there's a sensible mature response.