most underrated performance cars?

[Bingo BIlly]

Over the years ive seen a few cars go under the radar, they sort of never got the true recognition they deserve.

Please nominate the most underrated performance car you have seen.

I nominate the old supercharged V6 s pack from the vt-vy era. I drove one of those and they are a fiesty car down low and accelerating from a standing start. The throttle response was excellent and some were known to dip into the 14s bog stock and automatic.

Im pretty sure they would give the sv6 a good hiding, made something like 380nm torque from 3000rpm. but they never got the recognition. The ls1 just took all the limelight. Just cruising about they would get the first punch in on most cars and you need a fair amount of grunt to come back at them. They would give my stock vy ss a good run for its money

Whats your most underrated performance car?

[ittwgn]

hi have to say anything chrysler holden /ford got all the raps in 60,s 7o,s owned a vj val with 265 hemi 4 spd what a beast could not kill it. underrated car chrysler centura stock 225 not that heavy= beast

[SSN8TER]

My brother owns a vy s pac supercharged auto.
he has made a few mods like cat back exhaust smaller pulley i think it's a 10psi and a k&n filter in the box and ran a 14.1 at calder park two weeks ago on street tyres.
not bad for a few mods costing under 1k.

[v8dude78]

The old TC XLE 4.1 Cortina, mate of mine had one years ago these things scream we set the front brakes on fire one night coming down Mt Dandenong :confused:

Would still give most modern 6's a run for their money

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab72/v8dude78/cortina-td.jpg

[Curtis-R]

The ole AMC Pacer by a long shot :1peek:

http://www.automotto.org/images/amc_pacer.jpg

[ittwgn]

The old TC XLE 4.1 Cortina, mate of mine had one years ago these things scream we set the front brakes on fire one night coming down Mt Dandenong :confused:

Would still give most modern 6's a run for their money

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab72/v8dude78/cortina-td.jpg

hi mate also remember these big 6 in a middleweight car beast not close to 40 yet but makin me feel old a old school we used to think an eh with a 186 was quick haha!!!!

[JaMeS_2007]

The ole AMC Pacer by a long shot :1peek:

http://www.automotto.org/images/amc_pacer.jpg

reminds me of Waynes World

[benniemc]

Audi A4 B5 - 2.4L V6.

One of the guys I work with has one, a little 4 door sedan. Is a rocket, was totally shocked how hard they go when liberal right pedal is applied!

Given you can get a good one now for under $12k they're an awesome buy!

[dyno junkie]

G6E Turbo.

13.01 second stock standard!

[Aus8]

G6E Turbo.

13.01 second stock standard!

Agreed G6ET not even a LSD either!

[Swordie]

Porsche 944 Turbo

[white lie]

The inlaws just got a 2nd hand Touareg, goes like the clappers for something so big! 750Nm from a TT V10, responds very well to a tune too like most turbo diesels these days.

[ATOMICSS]

G6E Turbo.

13.01 second stock standard!

Agreed these cars are great and fast, but don't know about underrated everyone seems to be well aware of how good they are.

[mustanger]

E49 Charger ........:woot:

[tunnafun]

Im another fan of the Cortina. Had a few of them in my time.. 9 to be exact:hide:

[clubbie]

You guys will kill me but Mazda RX2/3/4 coupes, were very underated (and underbraked).

[silvervyss]

Golf GTi and Bmw 323i

[pacman]

Opel GT and Opel Manta A

[FITZY777]

All the tradie vans that pull up next to me at traffic lights while drivin home from work.

Those things must rev out to at least 9,000 rpms...!!

[HSVQUE]

For me it's the..

Jaguar XJ220

Almost 20 years old now and managed to do a top speed of 350kph and 0-60mph in 3.8 seconds.. All that from a 6cyl.

Amazing if you ask me for a car built that long ago.

[dmenace]

Another Cortina vote here.

Any model with the 4.1 and manual box...

[VYBerlinaV8]

VY Berlina V8. Those things have to be about the coolest machine ever made. Especially when stock. In white.



:jester:

[GODSMACK]

All the tradie vans that pull up next to me at traffic lights while drivin home from work.

Those things must rev out to at least 9,000 rpms...!!

LOL.. Thats so true, its amazing how high the old Mitsubishi and Toyota vans can rev!!!

[GODSMACK]

VY Berlina V8. Those things have to be about the coolest machine ever made. Especially when stock. In white.



:jester:

Hows about them TS Astras!!! :woohoo: :)

[Desertws6]

Something you probably have never seen before.

1983 Dodge Charger
http://www.adclassix.com/images/83dodgecharger.jpg
Had one of these (middle pic) back at the Uni. was a fast little car for it's time. Built the 2.2l engine with all Direct Connection Racing parts, this little buggar would scream all the way to 8000 rpms. It was a very light car also, tipping the scales at around 1000kgs. With a 5-speed of course :woohoo:

At the time it was faster than the 1982 model year, 280ZX, Camaro Z28 and Trans Am.
http://www.adclassix.com/images/83dodgeshelbycharger.jpg

For a 4 cylinder with a decent cam it sure had a nice growl. It was a wolf in sheeps clothing for the 80's.

Cheers,
Steve

[QldKev]

Datto 1600 FTW :nyuk:

[WhiteLion]

Something you probably have never seen before.

1983 Dodge Charger
http://www.adclassix.com/images/83dodgecharger.jpg
Had one of these (middle pic) back at the Uni. was a fast little car for it's time. Built the 2.2l engine with all Direct Connection Racing parts, this little buggar would scream all the way to 8000 rpms. It was a very light car also, tipping the scales at around 1000kgs. With a 5-speed of course :woohoo:

At the time it was faster than the 1982 model year, 280ZX, Camaro Z28 and Trans Am.
http://www.adclassix.com/images/83dodgeshelbycharger.jpg

For a 4 cylinder with a decent cam it sure had a nice growl. It was a wolf in sheeps clothing for the 80's.

Cheers,
Steve

Steve,
imediately thought this was a re-badged Mitsubishi Starion, but apparently not!! (not even close by the looks of the specs!!)

So I'll make my vote the Starion.

Steve

[vr5speedv6]

Over the years ive seen a few cars go under the radar, they sort of never got the true recognition they deserve.

Please nominate the most underrated performance car you have seen.

I nominate the old supercharged V6 s pack from the vt-vy era. I drove one of those and they are a fiesty car down low and accelerating from a standing start. The throttle response was excellent and some were known to dip into the 14s bog stock and automatic.

Im pretty sure they would give the sv6 a good hiding, made something like 380nm torque from 3000rpm. but they never got the recognition. The ls1 just took all the limelight. Just cruising about they would get the first punch in on most cars and you need a fair amount of grunt to come back at them. They would give my stock vy ss a good run for its money

Whats your most underrated performance car?


I nominate the VS series 2 calais super6. Quicker than the 185 v8 of the same vintage, and over 100kgs lighter than the vt:nyuk:

[Martin_D]

Morris Marina six cylinder - staunch single pegger fry-up equal to a Cortina of the era :bow:
http://slatford.co.uk/Pictures%20of%20Cars/Morris/Marina%201.8%20Coupe%2072.jpg
Leyland Princess engine, very torquey :eek:
That or Pulsar Reebok...

[troytroy]

BMW 135i in terms that it's M3 big brother gets all the accolades even though the little one has all the potential.

[ti0350]

Morris Marina six cylinder - staunch single pegger fry-up equal to a Cortina of the era :bow:
http://slatford.co.uk/Pictures%20of%20Cars/Morris/Marina%201.8%20Coupe%2072.jpg
Leyland Princess engine, very torquey :eek:
That or Pulsar Reebok...

Just needs a piano

[Ryan_04]

i know its going to sound silly but im gonna say toyota aurion - im not saying it has blistering speed, but for what it is - n/a 3.5 V6 - they go pretty good!

heres 1 racing a vz ss - look how long it takes for the ss to catch up and pass

YouTube- Lumina SS vs Toyota Aurion

[pmac]

2003-current subaru liberty and even outback with the h6 engine

[Bingo BIlly]

one motor im not sure about is the boss v8s from ford. Not sure if they are overrated or underrated?

[troytroy]

In terms of modified vehicles twin turbo Nissan 350Z's are a killer combo as well as any Toyota turbo 2JZ fitted vehicle.

[dawkinsdisciple]

definate agreed on the I6T falcons - not an underrated thing, recieved its fair share of exposure. fast though.

i'd have to say getting into and going for a drive in a 5 speed 5 litre with light mods and IRS in a VR or VS was quite a surprise... and handled surprisingly well too. nice cheap GT if you can get a nice condition stroker 6 speed in either in the senator/GTS. pull the rear wing off and it'd make a nice little project...

[dawkinsdisciple]

In terms of modified vehicles twin turbo Nissan 350Z's are a killer combo as well as any Toyota turbo 2JZ fitted vehicle.

hope your not referring to the TT 300ZX as theres no TT 350z's. those things were absolute pigs if you believe tuna's mate. big head, loves drifting, denso i think his name was... and the 2jz is a marvel of engineering but can anyone say too fast to furious to overrated? i reckon the 1jz'd have to be its cheap, pretty awesom underrated alternative...

[AD07]

Mazda 3MPS. GEN I.
Sleeper & very under-rated even if it is a FWD car.....

[Desertws6]

Steve,
imediately thought this was a re-badged Mitsubishi Starion, but apparently not!! (not even close by the looks of the specs!!)

So I'll make my vote the Starion.

Steve

Steve,

It does have that look, but it's a totally different car. This was one of the platforms that put Chrysler back on the map after the 1979 bail out. Lee Iacocca had put together a new line up for Chrysler and these little cars sold like hot cakes and keeping up with production was difficult.

The Starion was called a Conquest here and was sold by Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler, I remember them well.

Cheers,
Steve

[mustanger]

The Starion was called a Conquest here and was sold by Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler

:teach:The STARION was supposed to be called STALLION but the Japs got the spelling wrong .....:jester:

[Blown V2]

Good to see the supercharged 6 getting some recognition here!

Now I know I'll get some funny sideways looks for this post, but after selling my first car (02 CV6 Monaro) I bought a VE SS, 6 speed. Was a nice car but I couldn't stand how doughey it was down low, even after having it tuned. :errr:

I sold it after 6 months of owning it and bought a VX XU6, one of the most under-rated HSVs...

[Carby]

Brother had a Capri V6 GT at a time when V6's were very rare, this 3.0 litre was a great little car.

Unlike many on here already mentioned (Cortine 4.1, Marina, Aurion) it could handle and wasn't just a atraight line stormer.

[dyno junkie]

:teach:The STARION was supposed to be called STALLION but the Japs got the spelling wrong .....:jester:

Actually named after the "Star of Orion".

[Desertws6]

:teach:The STARION was supposed to be called STALLION but the Japs got the spelling wrong .....:jester:

Bwhahahahahaha :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[smokey777]

Good to see the supercharged 6 getting some recognition here!

Now I know I'll get some funny sideways looks for this post, but after selling my first car (02 CV6 Monaro) I bought a VE SS, 6 speed. Was a nice car but I couldn't stand how doughey it was down low, even after having it tuned. :errr:

I sold it after 6 months of owning it and bought a VX XU6, one of the most under-rated HSVs...

lucky you didnt buy a LS1 then lol

[Phonic]

Any late model 3.5L Magna with a manual transmission, good for mid to high 14's stock. A couple ralliart versions dipped into the low 14's.

[BNGTO]

Morris Marina six cylinder - staunch single pegger fry-up equal to a Cortina of the era :bow:
http://slatford.co.uk/Pictures%20of%20Cars/Morris/Marina%201.8%20Coupe%2072.jpg
Leyland Princess engine, very torquey :eek:
That or Pulsar Reebok...

Still holds the record for the worlds most prolific understeer doesn't it? Horrendous early FWD set up with a heavy overpowered engine in the front.

Passat R36 is surprisingly quick for an NA 6: will match a Maserati Quattroporte to 100, not that that thing is a benchmark but it looks fast.

[exwrx]

Another vote for the cortina. First car was a 4.1 4 speed TF, ended up with cam headwork ported manifold and weber off an XF.

Fun to drive in a straight line but handling and stopping were scary.

Drove a golf TSi GT last night with dsg - 1.4 litre turbo AND supercharged. Never have 125kw seemed so impressive.

This thing is laugh out loud good :eek:

[LSXMAD]

2.0L ESCORT . Dam those were fun days in the escort bunky...lol

[Oztrack Tuning]

my sons VS Statesman 3.8 V6 15.35/89mph from just 1.85 rockers and a full exhaust, mail order tune - all else stock. Not exactly performance in 2010 but thats as quick as any Brock Commodore Auto and far quicker than all the GTS Monaros with 308s and 350s.

[matty28]

Nissan GTiR, they are like a mini GTR Skyline…

SR20DET, 4 wheel drive

[troytroy]

hope your not referring to the TT 300ZX as theres no TT 350z's. those things were absolute pigs if you believe tuna's mate. big head, loves drifting, denso i think his name was... and the 2jz is a marvel of engineering but can anyone say too fast to furious to overrated? i reckon the 1jz'd have to be its cheap, pretty awesom underrated alternative...

No not referring to 300ZX but something like an aftermarket twin turbo kit like APS does for 350 and 370Z's. Killer combo - Awesome sleeper with a chassis that can handle the power and get it to the ground nicely. Power and torque everywhere. Acknowledge though that adding an expensive twin turbo kit onto just about anything will wake it up!!

[troytroy]

I had a little 1982 Nissan Turbo EXA a while back as a second car it. Add an intercooler, Double the boost (from 6-12psi), strip the rear seat out - awesome power to weight ratio - it would kill 5.0 litre V8's. The thing only weighed about 850-900kg wet.

[Uncle Tone]

Believe it or not.....

A Volvo 240 2.3 litre 4 speed. Very quick for what it was.

[Peter B - CV8]

Still holds the record for the worlds most prolific understeer doesn't it? Horrendous early FWD set up with a heavy overpowered engine in the front.

Passat R36 is surprisingly quick for an NA 6: will match a Maserati Quattroporte to 100, not that that thing is a benchmark but it looks fast.

No - the Marina was a RWD...... it still handled atrociously though.
Shamed to admit it, my Mum has a 4cylinder one in the garage:eeeeek:

[macca_779]

Mazda 626 Turbo. Pretty deceiving car considering the bread and butter models.

[Quicksilverls1]

That must be a "Collector" by now? :buff:

[BNGTO]

No - the Marina was a RWD...... it still handled atrociously though.
Shamed to admit it, my Mum has a 4cylinder one in the garage:eeeeek:

Had mistakenly assumed it must have been: How does it manage to achieve such sensational understeer? Was a magazine a few years ago had it as the worst car ever for the sheer danger factor. Remarkable feat of lack of engineering.

Dad had one as a borrower once from a panel beater: impressive door handles.

[GODSMACK]

I had one of these back in the late 90's, got up and moved ok for a 1.8!

http://www.adclassix.com/images/85subarurxturbosedan.jpg

Edit - should ad it was my father in laws car, not mine, but he never got to drive it after i took the keys!!

[ADAM 26]

the vn commodore v6 and v8. they cop a floggin and just keep askin for more.

also i know alot of people will not agree, but the holden 253 is one of the best motors, in stock form they are not a power house, but sh1t, you cant kill them! they go and go and go. they are so reliable, and they REV. i had a stocker with a cam in it that reved to 8000. it never broke!

[GODSMACK]

the vn commodore v6 and v8. they cop a floggin and just keep askin for more.

also i know alot of people will not agree, but the holden 253 is one of the best motors, in stock form they are not a power house, but sh1t, you cant kill them! they go and go and go. they are so reliable, and they REV. i had a stocker with a cam in it that reved to 8000. it never broke!

Cousin had a VB Commo with the 253, done it up for the Summernats quite a few years back, engine sounded awesome with the extractors.

[ADAM 26]

iv got a soft spot for the little battlers! iv always wanted to do a full build on one, with big comp, good heads, priority mains oiling, external oil returns, half concrete block, all arp fasteners, top and bottom girdle, with a hi rise manifold and single carb, get the right cam and flow through the heads to turn it too 9000rpm, then set up the drive line to suit, 5500 converter, right gearing. i recon it would have a good chance at holding together with the pistons being so small and light, there inst as much load on the crank and rods as a 308.

[bush_basha]

my mate had a saab, and while we all payed him out saying it was a grandpa's car, it went pretty well, it beat a 180sx once.

[Carby]

I think a much under rated car and one I have my eye on for the future is a Porsche................928!!

These cars are severely underated but in fact they were as fast or faster (depending on the model) as the 911 of the day. They were a V8 ranging from 4.7 l to 5.4 l and the motors have a great life span and happily sound like a V8 should. The car had a weissach transmission, ie over the back wheels, which gave it 50:50 weight distribution and it definitely was a more secure handler than the 911. Was good for 150 mph also. It had aluminium panels, could take 4 people, is a Porsche, but wait for it...most for sale now are in the $8000 to $25,000 price bracket - try getting a 911 of the same year and km's as one of these - no can do!

Like most Porsches it is very well engineered so a well looked after example is still a great drive and for the most part better than the same year 911.

[RATTLER]

I had a 1972 Datsun 240Z back when I was 18yrs old and these things were definately under rated!

2.4L cast iron block with an alloy head and twin SU carbs! We shaved the head and added a 350 Holley and man, this thing used to throw you in the back of your seat!!!! Would eat most V8's in the mid to late 80's! Had nearly 200hp in a car that weighs around 1000kg!!

Am actually thinking about building one for drifting

Scotty

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x10/mesatinken/1972Nissan240Z.jpg

[VYBerlinaV8]

Hows about them TS Astras!!! :woohoo: :)

It's like you're reading my mind.

Those things are fully sik!:eyes:

[v8dude78]

Cousin had a VB Commo with the 253, done it up for the Summernats quite a few years back, engine sounded awesome with the extractors.

Yep good cars i had an VC base L model but with a 253 & 4 speed manual had the suspension lowered they are a great handling car

Remember years ago chasing a merc 500 SL through the hill's just before romsy kept up with it no worries was great fun to drive.

[XU1_VE6]

Another vote for the 4.1 cortina's and VS Calais supercharged........ both very quick cars in their day. (an even still today)

Pains me to say it, but 3.5 v6 magna and even the 380 mitsubishi's had a bit of punch with grandpa looks.

In terms of modern cars, the Audi 2.0T a3's with the dsg box also are great fun, with some good factory exhaust noise and quite a few of the turbo diesel models like Vw Jetta and Focus diesel give quite punchy acceleration.

[Dieselman]

4.1 crossflow Cortina for me as well. Mate had one that would eat my 308 HZ ute any day of the week. Gee I hate Fords :vpo:

Also had a mate who had a KC Crysler Centura with the 245 in it. It also went pretty good. His grand dad GAVE it to him hahaha

[Martin_D]

I had a 1972 Datsun 240Z back when I was 18yrs old and these things were definately under rated!

You should have kept it, they are worth 50 x a VX now and 100 x as cool :cool:
Here in Aus - and overseas :)

[rodp]

The old TC XLE 4.1 Cortina, mate of mine had one years ago these things scream we set the front brakes on fire one night coming down Mt Dandenong :confused:

Would still give most modern 6's a run for their money

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab72/v8dude78/cortina-td.jpg

I had one of those about 18 years ago, not bad poke from what I remember but nothing remarkable. Was mint condition and wrote it off when some tool ran a red and I collected him. Wish I still had it because it was a cracker of a car.

[RATTLER]

You should have kept it, they are worth 50 x a VX now and 100 x as cool :cool:
Here in Aus - and overseas :)

Are you serious??!!

I swapped if for a full rally spec 1510 which I took to Waikeie a few months later to have some fun with! We ended up having an argument with a tree and came off 2nd best!

You're right though, that was a very very cool car and definately turned heads with a very distictive exhaust note :D

I'll agree with the TC 4.1ltr Cortina also as when I had my 240 a mate had a TC 4spd and we used to tear up Golden Grove back when there were only vine yards up there!

The other was the Escort RS2000! 2.0ltr twin Webbers, these things used to hammer!!

[VY18s]

Another vote for the G6ET. I wouldn't really say they're underrated on a large scale, but compared to the XR6T, and F6 they are. IMO

The XR6T, and F6 have a sporty kind of image, so you expect them to be fast, but the G6ET really is a "Wolf in sheep's clothing" with its grandpa spec looks.

[LuisS]

Had one of these back in the day when 13 second cars were "breathtaking"

L28 , cam, head work and 3 x 45 webbers - was a real sleeper

http://digiads.com.au/carsales/used-cars/car_ad_photos/digiads_car_ads_145310_1.jpg


Has anybody mentioned the Centura ?

[Phonic]

Pains me to say it, but 3.5 v6 magna and even the 380 mitsubishi's had a bit of punch with grandpa looks.

The 380's while punchy where not as fast as the Magnas they replaced. They struggle to dip into the high 14's, where the late 3.5's could hit mid 14's stock.

There was a dude on a Mitsu forum I was a member of when I had my Magna, that had a manual ralliart magan with intake, exhaust and tune that did a flat 14s, grandpa spec or not, that fast for a Large FWD family sedan. I only ever managed a 14.7 in old car, but It was my only ever outing in the 1/4 mile.

Yet to take the clubby, should be allot more fun then fighting torque steer on hard launches :P

[HSVREDSLED]

A couple of very quick cars my mates had.

A Datsun 1600. 2 litre with work done.

2.0 litre escort with some serious work done.

Datsun 260Z with turbo.

[troytroy]

I think a much under rated car and one I have my eye on for the future is a Porsche................928!!

These cars are severely underated but in fact they were as fast or faster (depending on the model) as the 911 of the day. They were a V8 ranging from 4.7 l to 5.4 l and the motors have a great life span and happily sound like a V8 should. The car had a weissach transmission, ie over the back wheels, which gave it 50:50 weight distribution and it definitely was a more secure handler than the 911. Was good for 150 mph also. It had aluminium panels, could take 4 people, is a Porsche, but wait for it...most for sale now are in the $8000 to $25,000 price bracket - try getting a 911 of the same year and km's as one of these - no can do!


As good as they are (and they were awesome) the cost of maintaining them and finding parts will drain a billionaire - hence why their resale prices have hit rock bottom as no one can afford to maintain them anymore. Hence why I'd love to buy one with a Manual transmission (rare) with burnt out high km engine and drop an LS3 in it, fit some some ten inch wide rear tyres and go hunting for commodores! :fishing::fishing::hide:

[Ghia351]

As good as they are (and they were awesome) the cost of maintaining them and finding parts will drain a billionaire - hence why their resale prices have hit rock bottom as no one can afford to maintain them anymore. Hence why I'd love to buy one with a Manual transmission (rare) with burnt out high km engine and drop an LS3 in it, fit some some ten inch wide rear tyres and go hunting for commodores! :fishing::fishing::hide:My brother inlaw has one parked under his carport, can't afford to fix it, trans is slipping and losing fluid, and not easy to top the level up he claims...sounded great when running.

[stu69]

The Cortina 6 Ghia (4.1) even if it was a Ford, handled almost Ok, sort of, but straight line great, better than the Vauxhall Ventora I had before it (3300cc) in a light rustbucket. Both a lot of fun in the wet, and a few beers under the belt ( it was almost socially acceptable then!!!!)

[dawkinsdisciple]

The Cortina 6 Ghia (4.1) even if it was a Ford, handled almost Ok, sort of, but straight line great, better than the Vauxhall Ventora I had before it (3300cc) in a light rustbucket. Both a lot of fun in the wet, and a few beers under the belt ( it was almost socially acceptable then!!!!)

hah hah love it... its a shame that to will soon apply to speeding thanks labour NSW

have to agree with the earlier comment re. VN's. NOT a sportscar but lowered with some mods makes a nice cheap thrashmobile that was almost indestructible (until a leaky header tank splits...) but thats really not socially acceptable now either!

+1 on the 928/44 too - was watching an older clarkson special where he really rates them (especially over the 911's) and they look a shitload better then the ducktailed 911's too. sucks the costs though...

[v8dude78]

Had one of these back in the day when 13 second cars were "breathtaking"

L28 , cam, head work and 3 x 45 webbers - was a real sleeper

http://digiads.com.au/carsales/used-cars/car_ad_photos/digiads_car_ads_145310_1.jpg


Has anybody mentioned the Centura ?

Hey mate this wasn't you was it :lmao::lmao::lmao:
YouTube- best skid ever

[Growler]

Truimph Dolomite Sprint, especially one in baby shit brown with vinyl roof, 2l 16valve about 1000kg and RWD, actually still give most modern hot hatches a good run for there money. Just don't expect anything electric to work all the time and watch out for that rust, oh man the rust. People joke that alphas and fiats used to come pre installed with rust from the factory, but i'm sure the poms included it as a no cost option.

[Bingo BIlly]

I heard that the old Nissan Exas were crazy. Apparently when the boost came on, you would get an unintentional lane change that went with it.

The supercharged V6 VS-VX still get my vote.

Ive driven a Magna 3.5 and I can say I was very surprised, seemed very fiesty.

Those Ford BOSS motors have copped some criticism but they were always compared with Ls2/Ls3 so to even be near those cars they must go ok.

[macca_779]

Another one I can think of is the early GSR Lancers. Basically an EVO before the EVO's came out and with a vastly more subtle body kit. Very deceiving car to those that don't know what they are. A mate of mine had one and it chewed the crap out of my 5L SS at the time.

[185iboy]

Commodore Supercharged V6 - their capabilities really astounded me when I bought my Calais and boost is fun :jester:


I don't think anyones mentioned the VL turbo :bow::bow::bow:

[Bingo BIlly]

the sv6 owners run for cover when they see a supercharged v6 from vs-vy.

They will claim more kw but nowhere near the torque or flexibility of the boosted motor. It would literally just bolt away from the sv6.

[bouka]

The new Golf R.

0 to 100 = 5.3
400m = 13.6
80 to 120 = 3.6

Will scare the crap out of any Holden/HSV in stock form.

Rumour has it that they are doing sub 5 sec to 100 and flat 13's with tune only.

[WKGrange]

A Suzuki Capacino. The name is bad I know but it weights 725Kg has a little turbo engine that is detuned so that it can meet the Kei car specs. They are rear drive and well balanced. I have seen these things with 280Hp (they race some in time attack) cheap to buy and plenty of aftermarket kit (in Japan).

[stealth vn]

the sv6 owners run for cover when they see a supercharged v6 from vs-vy.

They will claim more kw but nowhere near the torque or flexibility of the boosted motor. It would literally just bolt away from the sv6.

i dont know about that @willowbank last year i raced my alloytec against a vy s/c 6 and i beat him 3 times both stock and i only had 175kw motor however i also beat the sv6 and xr6, few weeks after that put it on the dyno to see it make 188rwhp bog stock

[exwrx]

Another one I can think of is the early GSR Lancers. Basically an EVO before the EVO's came out and with a vastly more subtle body kit. Very deceiving car to those that don't know what they are. A mate of mine had one and it chewed the crap out of my 5L SS at the time.

Yes, this one. Had a 1995 model GSR, in the late '90's. Awesome little car and very underrated before the whole evo thing really took off.

Sold it to buy a wrx which was a big mistake. :soap:

[stealth vn]

new golf gti

[taner]

the VW R32

[v8dude78]

+1 for the R32 very quick little car
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab72/v8dude78/VolksWagenGolfR32RearSide.jpg

[luke-vyssute]

mini cooper s

[Rhc 1]

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae132/rhc1/std_1970_ford_corsair_2000e-redblac.jpg
Ford Corsair 2L V4, fitting the 3L Granada V6 was dead easy, 990 kg and very low gearing, a friend had one with a mild V6 and it was very impressive low budget performance (28 years ago haha)

[rankys_ss]

I'm giving my vote to the super6 vs, my brother has one with 10psi upgrade, 1.9 rockets and full exhaust. He would leave me for dead in my vt ss (240rwkw) and it would take me to 120km/h to reel him in. Those things really hook to about 80kays and can be picked up pretty cheap. V8 killers :rofl:

[Swordie]

Monaro CV6

[TAKEITEZ]

Ford Territory Turbo...
i remember sitting at the lights in my VS V6 ute one afternoon in Perth... up next to me comes one of these things, with a tandem trailer full of lawn mowers and garden waste... i thought "my lane ends soon, i'll take him and nip in front"

no...

owned by the family soft roader towing a tandem...


it even turns out, the guy who used to own my ute (VYII Maloo) traded it in on a black turbo Territory when his wife fell pregnant... they must be good :)

[den001]

r35 gtr, (let the flaming begin)

[macca_779]

Ford Territory Turbo...
i remember sitting at the lights in my VS V6 ute one afternoon in Perth... up next to me comes one of these things, with a tandem trailer full of lawn mowers and garden waste... i thought "my lane ends soon, i'll take him and nip in front"

no...

owned by the family soft roader towing a tandem...


it even turns out, the guy who used to own my ute (VYII Maloo) traded it in on a black turbo Territory when his wife fell pregnant... they must be good :)

In a VS V6.. Hell an N/A Terry would have probably pipped you. :rofl:

[Martin_D]

Had one of these back in the day when 13 second cars were "breathtaking" L28 , cam, head work and 3 x 45 webbers - was a real sleeper

Another genuine performance car Luis, and a serious one. In GTR form more valuable and quicker than any Holden of its era. Genuine examples can be > $100K AUD now if you can find one -
http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kenmarygtr1.jpg
What a weapon! :bow:
So good were these cars that at the time Holden emulated Nissan by using their existing GTR naming on the Vauxhall Viva based Torana to give it some racing credibility amongst young buyers. Very similar to the ex-renter VT V6s with the paper mache body kits you used to be able to buy in Adelaide badged the 'VT GTR' but at least the good ol Torry had some balls and won a race or two :cool:

[LuisS]

Hey Martin , the 240k that I had back then had "Skyline GT" badges all over it - GT badges on the inside front door trims and on the rear panel like the pic you show , but it was a 4 door , not a 2 door......I think the grille was also different.

Also had the same tail lights as that one, which were different to the other 240k's

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2388/240k.png

Here is a pic of me practising parallel parking....

[Martin_D]

What a shot.....the grandfather of drift! :)
Having said that I would take an LJ GTR XU1 over the rice box anyday :cool: