here's an odd one... Factory spare doesnt fit.

[moconn20]

I've got an SSV sportwagon.
When i bought the car, i was told it came with a steel spare as standard, which i was happy with... i couldnt justify the expense of a full size alloy spare and i changed to E1 Grange rims anyway.
Today i got a flat, went to change the wheel, pulled out the spare...

It doesnt fit over the brakes.

Rang my dealership to ask if i infact had been given the correct spare, they couldnt help me other than to say "bring it in".

Rang Holden Customer Care, after 35 minutes on the phone all they could tell me is that i have to correct spare for my vehicle. The guy on the other end even laughed when i told him i had a 16inch spare and said "that'll never fit over the brakes".

So, my question is this...
Anyone who has an SS or SSV, can you go and see what size spare wheel you have in the boot (if its the standard steel wheel).
Mine is a 16inch with a 255/60 tyre.

Why the hell, is Holden selling cars with spare wheels that will never fit?

I looked right through the manual and theres nothing in there to suggest it may not fit.
Im quite puzzled as to why this hasnt been brought up before (from what i can gather doing a search on here.)

Anyone experienced the same issue?

[Evman]

Wow that's ridiculous. The standard brakes aren't huge, 16" should definitely fit. In fact 16" is standard steel rim size isn't it? It used to be 15" but they upped it to 16" with the VE. Where is the rim hitting?

[seedyrom]

What wheel was flat?

Is it one of those "put the spare on the rear and move the rear tyre to the front" type expectations?

[willz]

^^^ Thats exactly what i was thinking

Spare will only fit on rear. will have to move rear to front and place spare on rear.

May be an issue if those are staggered grange wheels?

[moconn20]

Where is the rim hitting?

On the caliper, absolutely no chance of getting it on.


Spare will only fit on rear. will have to move rear to front and place spare on rear.

May be an issue if those are staggered grange wheels?

Is that so?
I didnt see that stated anywhere in the manual...

Yes i was trying to fit the spare to the front, so i guess thats the problem.
How ridiculous.

And yes they are a staggered set so i guess i'll have to get my hands on to a HSV space saver spare.

[chillicatqld]

Pffft that sux. My SSV Sportwagon came with a full size alloy spare as standard... don' t know why yours didnt?

[willz]

Its just a guess seeing that holden told u it was the right spare for your car.

Correct me if im wrong but arnt the rear brakes on a ve smaller than the front?

[moconn20]

Its just a guess seeing that holden told u it was the right spare for your car.

Correct me if im wrong but arnt the rear brakes on a ve smaller than the front?

Yeah thats correct, so i think you might be right.

Still quite surprising that both customer care nor the dealer were aware of this.


Pffft that sux. My SSV Sportwagon came with a full size alloy spare as standard... don' t know why yours didnt?

Is yours MY10?
I believe this was introduced with MY10 (as the Holden website states that a fullsize alloy spare is now standard) but this wasnt the case with previous year models. If it came with the car in previous year models it was an added option free of charge.

[moconn20]

I just had another chat to the head of servicing at my dealer and he says that it "shouldnt be the case" that the spare will only fit on the rear... So im going for a spin down there for him to have a look.

[Tre-Cool]

i reakon the dealer is taking the factory alloy from 4 cars and given them v6 omega steelies.

a 16" rim will clear the smaller v6 brakes but not the v8's.

[theVman]

You should certainly be asking for a wheel that fits free of charge. That is pretty hopeless in my books. It is not reasonable to expect someone to put the spare on the rear and change the rear to the front - staggered fitment aside.

Most people these days don't even know how to change a wheel neverlone think to swap back to front etc. I am always a bit cautious of that with lsd diffs as well as you dont want two slightly different sized rolling diameters on the rear!

[ATOMICSS]

i reakon the dealer is taking the factory alloy from 4 cars and given them v6 omega steelies.

a 16" rim will clear the smaller v6 brakes but not the v8's.

My model 10 SS came with a 17inch black painted steel rim, full width not a space saver.

[conchie]

just checked mine (MY10 SSV wagon) and its got a steel 225/55 R17.
Holden says it should have a 19 alloy (as does the brochure from when i bought it) so i am on the phone to the dealer right now.

Thanks for the heads up

[theVman]

I wonder how many are floating around with spares that dont fit? I know I would be pissed if I was stuck out in the middle of no where with a spare that doesnt go on! I would also hate to be at the other end of the phone with an irrate customer that has this problem - simply bringing it in is not really an option at that point!!

[zeeute]

I asked this question. It will only fit on the rear of the car... It will not clear the front brakes. I'm presuming you tried to put it on the front of the car?

[smokey777]

Pffft that sux. My SSV Sportwagon came with a full size alloy spare as standard... don' t know why yours didnt?

ya even my SS 9.5 ute came with a full alloy spare

[KPWISHN]

Mine is a 9.5 SSV wagon and it has a 16" steelie too. Pretty piss poor IMO. If my wife got a flat front, I would not expect her to do multiple wheel swaps on the side of the road because FKN Holden put a spare that doesn't fit. She probably wouldn't change it anyway. LOL. But I too wouldn't want that F@*K around. Looks like I gotta go out and get an extra SSV wheel now just in case. :flipoff: Anyone got a link to one at a good price?

[moconn20]

just checked mine (MY10 SSV wagon) and its got a steel 225/55 R17.
Holden says it should have a 19 alloy (as does the brochure from when i bought it) so i am on the phone to the dealer right now.

Thanks for the heads up

im just sitting at the dealer while they look at it, he still cant believe it wouldnt fit the front. it would seem (so far on here) that at the very least MY10 comes with a 17inch steel wheel (even though the website suggests they should come with a full size spare), so i wlil be asking for one of those.

[moconn20]

success!

Head of servicing said it should have come with a 17inch spare, so they have taken one from a showroom vehicle. He said it certainly isnt he case that we should have to fit the spare to the back and then change the front over so anyone with a 16inch spare should look into getting it exchanged for a 17inch

[seedyrom]

Lucky you

Well done to alerting others.

[moconn20]

Lucky you

Well done to alerting others.

Its not all rainbows and candycanes... the f**kers scratched my car and are denying it. Can't say im surprised.

[conchie]

just checked mine (MY10 SSV wagon) and its got a steel 225/55 R17.
Holden says it should have a 19 alloy (as does the brochure from when i bought it) so i am on the phone to the dealer right now.

Thanks for the heads up

The dealer says the 225/55 R17 is considered full sized and is the standard item (technically the sealant & compressor is standard but you get the point) on the car.

[GavinO]

SS and SSV have slightly larger front brakes than the rest of the VE range, hence the need for the 17inch steel rim. All other models in the range get away with a 16inch spare. As for how you ended up with the incorrect spare........

[ADAM 26]

i got my ute second hand, and it had no spare, and i made sure what fitted and what didnt, so i got a 17 inch space saver, it will fit on any corner, and it only needs to get me to the next tyre place so i can get a new tyre fitted to the 22s.

maybe better off with the space saver so it fits?

[moconn20]

maybe better off with the space saver so it fits?

17ch full size steel wheel fit fine all all corners...

I wonder how many others were accidentally given 16inch spares

[Roonstain]

My wagon is a MY09.5 and came with a full size 19inch spare at no cost

Bloody ridiculous that you guys have steel wheels - these arent the cheapest car about!!!!

[Wonky]

ya even my SS 9.5 ute came with a full alloy spare

Mine didn't and I looked into it at the time. As of start of production 2009 SSV utes (and I assume SS/SV6) only came with steel spare. If you wanted alloy it was an extra $250. Think mine is a 17" spare but will have to get someone to check!

[moconn20]

My wagon is a MY09.5 and came with a full size 19inch spare at no cost


As i said thats obviously an option that you got for free... the dealer confirmed today that "standard" is a full size steel wheel.

[LS1-5.7]

Its not all rainbows and candycanes... the f**kers scratched my car and are denying it. Can't say im surprised.

See, there is always a catch !!! If they did a damage report in the morning and the scratch wasn't on there then it's clearly their responsibility. If there was no damage report done then all I can is "why the f**k not" !!!!

Good luck with this one as dealerships usually deny everything.

[Plenty]

Mine is a 9.5 SSV wagon and it has a 16" steelie too. Pretty piss poor IMO. If my wife got a flat front, I would not expect her to do multiple wheel swaps on the side of the road because FKN Holden put a spare that doesn't fit. She probably wouldn't change it anyway. LOL. But I too wouldn't want that F@*K around. Looks like I gotta go out and get an extra SSV wheel now just in case. :flipoff: Anyone got a link to one at a good price?

Try www.holmart.com.au they have the wheels in a set maybe give them a call and see if they sell singularly.

For the record if you asked enough they would have just thrown it in to start with, $250 aint much when your paying $50 plus thousand

[moconn20]

or just take the 16inch and get it swapped to a 17inch for free...

Whats the point in paying extra for a wheel thats rarely going to see the light of day

[VYSHSV8]

Mine is a 9.5 SSV wagon and it has a 16" steelie too. Pretty piss poor IMO. If my wife got a flat front, I would not expect her to do multiple wheel swaps on the side of the road because FKN Holden put a spare that doesn't fit. She probably wouldn't change it anyway. LOL. But I too wouldn't want that F@*K around. Looks like I gotta go out and get an extra SSV wheel now just in case. :flipoff: Anyone got a link to one at a good price?

Hey Lew did you buy yours new if so take it back to the dealer and get them to replace it mate:):)

[XU1_VE6]

what the?? How can the supply a spare wheel that doesn't fit and expect anyone to swap 3 wheels around for one flat.

Glad to hear they are being replaced with correct fitting wheels, but as plenty says for $250 on a $50k vehicle it SHOULD be standard.

[KPWISHN]

Hey Lew did you buy yours new if so take it back to the dealer and get them to replace it mate:):)

Yeah i got it new. I did know it had a steelie. I didn't know it would not fit the front though.

[VX_INT]

Space saver should never go on the front(even if it does fit). You’re expected to do multiple tire swap if you get a flat at the front.

[moconn20]

Space saver should never go on the front(even if it does fit). You’re expected to do multiple tire swap if you get a flat at the front.


The 16inch isnt a space saver, its a full sized rim that doesnt fit over the brakes. They are meant to all come with a 17inch that can be safely used on any corner.

Besides, HSV's come with a space saver (so i was told yesterday at the dealer) and because HSV rims are staggered you cant swap wheels to the front, so obviously the space saver is ok to use on the front.

[Roonstain]

The 16inch isnt a space saver, its a full sized rim that doesnt fit over the brakes. They are meant to all come with a 17inch that can be safely used on any corner.

Besides, HSV's come with a space saver (so i was told yesterday at the dealer) and because HSV rims are staggered you cant swap wheels to the front, so obviously the space saver is ok to use on the front.
My dad's VE senator has a full size spare - no space saver
It is the size of the front (8inch wide, not 9.5 like the rear)

[fishla]

MAY09 build (MY9.5) mine came with a steel 225/55 R17

[ADAM 26]

does anyone know where to buy a full size 17 inch steel wheel from? i asked the local holden dealer, but they had no idea! as per usual!

[GavinO]

I think this discussion has lost it's way a little bit. I don't think it was intended to be a full sized alloy vs steel rim vs spacesaver discussion. Rather, the OP was questioning why his vehicle was provided with a 16inch steel spare, when it should clearly have been a 17inch spare, and had anyone else cared to check theirs (if applicable).

[Jamster]

I feel your pain as my spare was also a 16". Copped a flat in the rear and the 16" wouldn't fit. Faark, was I pissed!

Had to get my car towed to the dealer and they swapped it over for a 17". What's even worse, they said that the tyre that had the puncture couldn't be repaired due to the puncture being close to the wall of the tyre and needed to buy a new one at $415. Took the flat to Donnellans and they fixed the puncture for $30.

Wasn't happy and was a major inconvenience.

[moconn20]

I feel your pain as my spare was also a 16". Copped a flat in the rear and the 16" wouldn't fit. Faark, was I pissed!


So the 16inch doesnt fit on the rear either?
Massive c**k up by Holden then.

[VYSHSV8]

Yeah i got it new. I did know it had a steelie. I didn't know it would not fit the front though.
Yeh just take it back and get them to supply a 17"steelie to start with at minimum mate if not get a ssv rim out of them mine is a 17" steelie so mine will fit:)

The last thing you need is the missus yelling at ya down the phone line :(:(

[hRTHSV]

My dad's VE senator has a full size spare - no space saver
It is the size of the front (8inch wide, not 9.5 like the rear)

There is a very good reason for that it has to be a 19 inch rims with the right brake clearance to fit, is it painted black, ours is. Alloy spares on the SS & SSV was listed as an extra cost option from the release, I know a few people who got them and a few who couldn't be bothered.

[moconn20]

There is a very good reason for that it has to be a 19 inch rims with the right brake clearance to fit, is it painted black, ours is. Alloy spares on the SS & SSV was listed as an extra cost option from the release, I know a few people who got them and a few who couldn't be bothered.

HSV's get the 19inch black spare as standard... Vehicles optioned with 6piston brakes get a full sized alloy spare as standard.

[Brett240]

i have an MY10 SSV wagon ( Jan 10 build ) and came standard with the 19 inch alloy spare. i was a bit suprised actually

[Aus8]

MY09 VE SS UTE 2008 APR 2008 build came with full size alloy spare with OEM potenza tyre. Didnt expect it to be there when I looked underneath as I didnt option it.

[Roonstain]

There is a very good reason for that it has to be a 19 inch rims with the right brake clearance to fit, is it painted black, ours is. Alloy spares on the SS & SSV was listed as an extra cost option from the release, I know a few people who got them and a few who couldn't be bothered.
It is not painted black - exactly the same as the other wheels on the car

I realize it is because of brake clearances etc - also I would like to think that it has something to do with it being a senator too

[hyperss82]

I have a 08 ssv ute and it came with a 19" spare as all ssv should

[SSVWagon]

My 09.5 SSV Sportwagon has a steel 17" space saver spare rim, which ALL Sportwagons came with during 08-09 according to the brochure which I have. Full size spares were optional.

[vicarious]

I have a 08 ssv ute and it came with a 19" spare as all ssv should

my 08 sv6 ute came with full sized alloy

[chillicatqld]

I feel your pain as my spare was also a 16". Copped a flat in the rear and the 16" wouldn't fit. Faark, was I pissed!

Had to get my car towed to the dealer and they swapped it over for a 17". What's even worse, they said that the tyre that had the puncture couldn't be repaired due to the puncture being close to the wall of the tyre and needed to buy a new one at $415. Took the flat to Donnellans and they fixed the puncture for $30.

Wasn't happy and was a major inconvenience.


Would never get a tyre repaired on/or close to the wall... saving $$$ can have disastrous consequences!! :soap:

[KPWISHN]

Ok, I jinxed myself. Got a flat on the front left, at home luckily. Pulled the spare out and no it doesn't fit. So I swap front to rear and BAM.......it doesn't fit over the rear caliper either. :vpo: Not by a long shot either. Rang the dealer I purchased the car off new and they said bring it in and they will get one that does fit. So I'm happy they are playing ball. Will see how it pans out Monday.

Take this as a warning to who ever has a VE SSV with a 16" spare. It won't fit front or rear.

[redvxr8clubby]

HSV's get the 19inch black spare as standard... Vehicles optioned with 6piston brakes get a full sized alloy spare as standard.

Doesn't seem to be the case now, I was looking at a new Senator a few weeks ago (no not buying), there was only a compressor in the spare wheel well, no spare wheel at all. Delaler says car had run flat tyres.

[VYSHSV8]

Ok, I jinxed myself. Got a flat on the front left, at home luckily. Pulled the spare out and no it doesn't fit. So I swap front to rear and BAM.......it doesn't fit over the rear caliper either. :vpo: Not by a long shot either. Rang the dealer I purchased the car off new and they said bring it in and they will get one that does fit. So I'm happy they are playing ball. Will see how it pans out Monday.

Take this as a warning to who ever has a VE SSV with a 16" spare. It won't fit front or rear.

That's ok Lew if ya have another car to take the spare in but if you don't what do they expect you to walk there or catch the bus with a spare:(:(

Tell them to bring the correct tyre out as you don;'t have another car:):)

[msjwood]

Check the tyre placard inside the driver's door. It should tell you what the wheels & tyres are supposed to be-including the spare. My car ('07 SSV ute) came with a full sized alloy spare, yet the tyre placard says 17". Go figure! Maybe the placard states what the minimum specs should be.
So for you guys (girls) who have a 16" spare, does that make your car unroadworthy? I'd be checking.
Cheers, Mike

[planetdavo]

Holden and the dealer network are well aware that a small number of V8 cars went out the door with too small V6 spare wheels.
Pre delivery are meant to check this, so any V8's out there with the 16 inch have slipped through the system at this point.

[planetdavo]

Doesn't seem to be the case now, I was looking at a new Senator a few weeks ago (no not buying), there was only a compressor in the spare wheel well, no spare wheel at all. Delaler says car had run flat tyres.

No VE variant is fitted with run flats. The goo and compressor can fix 99% of "usual" punctures. Only punctures on the outer edge of the tread or the sidewall can't be fixed this way, but they are pretty rare in the big picture.

[redvxr8clubby]

No VE variant is fitted with run flats. The goo and compressor can fix 99% of "usual" punctures. Only punctures on the outer edge of the tread or the sidewall can't be fixed this way, but they are pretty rare in the big picture.

Yeah Davo, I didn't think HSV had gone run flats, that's what the sales guy said, but he wasn't the HSV "consultant", I think he made an assumption, given there was no spare.

[VYSHSV8]

Holden and the dealer network are well aware that a small number of V8 cars went out the door with too small V6 spare wheels.
Pre delivery are meant to check this, so any V8's out there with the 16 inch have slipped through the system at this point.

So what you are saying is that the pre-delivery that people have paid for was not done so do they get there money back on a Pd that wasn't done correctly:):)

[planetdavo]

So what you are saying is that the pre-delivery that people have paid for was not done so do they get there money back on a Pd that wasn't done correctly:):)

Think we're all smart enough to realise that people not doing what they are paid for 100% of the time happens anywhere there is a business of any sort that opens it's doors each day. :)

[seacrest]

I went through exactly the same thing .
I damaged my 20 inch tyre and went to fit the spare and it wouldn't fit
I rang the dealer where a brought the new car from. (Barry Smith Holden)
The service department told me that it was impossible and that the spare would fit.
They refused to assist me.
My car was stranded in a industrial area with no way of getting it home
I told the dealer that i would hold them responsible if any damage was caused
to my car if i had to leave it overnight.
They said how could they be responsible for that.
I managed to borrow a friends standard space saver out of a v6
After many conversations/arguements with the dealer over several days the dealer sent me a second hand scratched 19 inch wheel.

Approx 6 weeks later I recieved a letter from holden advising me that the spare in my boot may not fit my car and that it was a part of a recall.

[moconn20]

Holden and the dealer network are well aware that a small number of V8 cars went out the door with too small V6 spare wheels.
Pre delivery are meant to check this, so any V8's out there with the 16 inch have slipped through the system at this point.

My dealer mustnt be in on this "dealer network" that you speak of.

[Hos]

my MY10 SSV wagon came with 19inch alloy as standard, but the dealer assured me it was an added no cost extra from the dealer....

i think if you can get a brand new full size alloy rim and tyre for $250, why wouldn't you?

[Plenty]

Hope you reported their lack of assistance to Holden themselves, they don't take kindly to poor customer service from one of their dealers.

[seacrest]

I did ask for the spare wheel for the $250 as per GMH's website
They said that they could only give that to me if the 20" super sports were fitted in the factory not by he dealership.

I did speak to Holdens complaints department and their attitude towards things was just as bad as the dealer.
They told me that i need to speak to the principle of the dealership
as it has nothing to do with Holden.
He was the one that sent me the scratched & brake fluid stained second hand black 19 "mag wheel.

I asked how do I make a complaint about the complaints department
as i think they should support customers as the car is a Holden
Not a "Barry Smith"

The joke was that it ended up being Holdens incompentence that caused the problem not the dealership.

[planetdavo]

My dealer mustnt be in on this "dealer network" that you speak of.

There are plenty of losers in dealerships, and there are plenty of losers on this forum.
About the only difference is that the losers on this forum usually think they know everything, whereas losers in dealerships just care about getting their weekly payslip.

[calais-346]

Just so every one realises the information at the start of the thread stating that the rear brakes on a VE V8 are smaller than the front is INCORRECT.

•Front (V6): 298 mm x 30 mm Vented rotors, twin piston compact aluminium calipers.
•Rear (V6): 302 mm x 22 mm vented rotors, single piston aluminium calipers.
•Front (V8): 321 mm x 30 mm Vented rotors, twin piston compact aluminium calipers.
•Rear (V8): 324 mm x 22 mm vented rotors, single piston aluminium calipers.

[KPWISHN]

OK, the dealer swapped mine out for a 17" space saver too. Happy now.

Why not get a full size at only $250 some say? (I was quoted $500 at the time btw).......... I always have until this car. I thought I would get the steelie this time, so I was forced to sort out the four tyres on the car if I got a flat and keep the spare as the spare. I always had trouble with mismatching tyres as often whatever tyres come on the car originally are soon not available and then I'd have the one mismatching tyre which isn't a great idea and always annoyed me. Anyway that's my semi logic this time.

Again, anyone with a VE SS, SSV or whatever other VE has the same or bigger brakes, go and make sure you have a 17" spare or bigger. The 16" spare that a small minority were supplied with doesn't fit. If unsure I would urge to check at an easy location like your own garage rather than on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, when it is too late.

[TR33VV]

Just so every one realises the information at the start of the thread stating that the rear brakes on a VE V8 are smaller than the front is INCORRECT.

•Front (V6): 298 mm x 30 mm Vented rotors, twin piston compact aluminium calipers.
•Rear (V6): 302 mm x 22 mm vented rotors, single piston aluminium calipers.
•Front (V8): 321 mm x 30 mm Vented rotors, twin piston compact aluminium calipers.
•Rear (V8): 324 mm x 22 mm vented rotors, single piston aluminium calipers.

The disks are bigger but does the twin piston front caliper make it a larger assembly than the rear ??? Food for thought cos I got no idea...

[calais-346]

The disks are bigger but does the twin piston front caliper make it a larger assembly than the rear ??? Food for thought cos I got no idea...

I should of clarified the point i was trying to make was that 16's will not fit front or rear, and that braking assemblies are almost identical in size.

Just didn't want some poor bugger to be misinformed

[Rystar]

hey guys
i got my MY10 SSV Sportwagon bout 6 weeks ago.... i checked the wheel before i even got in the car.... i got a 19" alloy.
i was going to say something if there was anything less than that, but i didnt need to.

i do find it very interesting that some of us get full size alloys and some get steel wheels!!! why is there not a standard on what the spare wheel is?
and for that matter, the price we pay for these cars, the spare really should only be a full alloy.

[mjrandom]

There is a standard and that is what Holden supply (probably the 17" steel wheel in this case) but some dealers chose to order their cars with full size spares. I know when I was shopping for the E2 the standard HSV offering is a tube of goo and an el cheapo compressor. All the dealers I spoke with at least optioned the spare wheel (black painted E1 Clubbie front) and several just ordered all stock with the full sized spare which comes with TPMS. If the full sized spare is ordered from the factory you pay the notional cost but if you order it after delivery you pay full odds for the wheel and tyre. The difference is several $ hundred.

[steves87]

Just checked mine, its a 16 also, i might have to make a complaint...

[Chris_L98]

Pffft that sux. My SSV Sportwagon came with a full size alloy spare as standard... don' t know why yours didnt?


i have an MY10 SSV wagon ( Jan 10 build ) and came standard with the 19 inch alloy spare. i was a bit suprised actually

Same here, September '09 build.

[mac06]

hey guys
i got my MY10 SSV Sportwagon bout 6 weeks ago.... i checked the wheel before i even got in the car.... i got a 19" alloy.
i was going to say something if there was anything less than that, but i didnt need to.

i do find it very interesting that some of us get full size alloys and some get steel wheels!!! why is there not a standard on what the spare wheel is?
and for that matter, the price we pay for these cars, the spare really should only be a full alloy.

For those who are buying new, the following now applies to which vehicles get alloy spare wheels-

Sedan - Statesman and Caprice only. (unless tyre inflator kit)
Sportwagon - SS-V and Calais-V only.
Ute - Optional on all models.

You'll probably find it's a weight saving issue that makes the steel wheels standard on most models, with only the up spec models having alloy spares as standard.

[ATOMICSS]

Suspect its more a cost saving issue than a weight saving issue.

[mac06]

Probably that too, but every kilo saved helps with official fuel consumption figures.

[planetdavo]

There is a standard and that is what Holden supply (probably the 17" steel wheel in this case) but some dealers chose to order their cars with full size spares. I know when I was shopping for the E2 the standard HSV offering is a tube of goo and an el cheapo compressor. All the dealers I spoke with at least optioned the spare wheel (black painted E1 Clubbie front) and several just ordered all stock with the full sized spare which comes with TPMS. If the full sized spare is ordered from the factory you pay the notional cost but if you order it after delivery you pay full odds for the wheel and tyre. The difference is several $ hundred.

It's also not uncommon for various dealers to order some cars with a factory alloy spare to get the cheaper cost, then if a customer wants a different car on the yard with an alloy spare they can swap them over, rather than charge either the higher retail cost of a post build rim and tyre or have the customer wait for a car to be built.

[rgmast]

It's also not uncommon for various dealers to order some cars with a factory alloy spare to get the cheaper cost, then if a customer wants a different car on the yard with an alloy spare they can swap them over, rather than charge either the higher retail cost of a post build rim and tyre or have the customer wait for a car to be built.

Yeah im sure they wouldnt charge the higher retail amount :goodjob:

[mjrandom]

It's also not uncommon for various dealers to order some cars with a factory alloy spare to get the cheaper cost, then if a customer wants a different car on the yard with an alloy spare they can swap them over, rather than charge either the higher retail cost of a post build rim and tyre or have the customer wait for a car to be built.

Actually PD this wont happen with an HSV. HSV data dot the spare along with the rest of the car and if a dealer swapped out a wheel they would be in breach of HSV rule 576A subsection 45i part VI, B. Can't see a dealer wanting to chance Police involvement if wheels are stolen from one car and another is found to have one with the same data dot as a spare....

[steves87]

Actually PD this wont happen with an HSV. HSV data dot the spare along with the rest of the car and if a dealer swapped out a wheel they would be in breach of HSV rule 576A subsection 45i part VI, B. Can't see a dealer wanting to chance Police involvement if wheels are stolen from one car and another is found to have one with the same data dot as a spare....

Interesting point with the HSV models, but it definitely happens with the the regular holden stuff... was told the exact same thing as what PD said, from the sales manager at CityMotors in Perth.

[planetdavo]

Actually PD this wont happen with an HSV. HSV data dot the spare along with the rest of the car and if a dealer swapped out a wheel they would be in breach of HSV rule 576A subsection 45i part VI, B. Can't see a dealer wanting to chance Police involvement if wheels are stolen from one car and another is found to have one with the same data dot as a spare....

I was talking about Holden models.

[planetdavo]

Yeah im sure they wouldnt charge the higher retail amount :goodjob:

Well, it appears you know little then, as the way I described is the only way to retrofit a full size spare at the Holden website pricing. :teach:

[steves87]

Took 5 weeks, but got my 16" replaced. thanks to the op!:goodjob: