HSV "KARMA" colour code

[ADAM 26]

hey guys, wanted to know the colour code for "karma".

it looks better on the hsv`s, but im not sure it thats just because they are normally cleaner than normal holdens or they are a slighty different paint mix.

need it for the weekend, we are painting the hk in this colour, just wanted to see if they are differnt codes or not.

cheers, Adam

[MTC]

Adam i just checked the colour code on My Karma Senator Sig for you & it is 610R

[ADAM 26]

thanks HEAPS mate. helps me out alot!!

cant wait to get it painted, just wanted the nice colour like your car, they look sweet when the sun hits it!

[Wonky]

it looks better on the hsv`s, but im not sure it thats just because they are normally cleaner than normal holdens or they are a slighty different paint mix.

Have to agree. Not a big fan of Karma on standard Commodores but absolutely love it on Bouka's and SenatorMike's Senators - they look awesome!! :drool: I wouldn't think it's a different paint mix though.

[XUV]

It might be a different base coat , white , blue ,.........

Black HSV is painted over white , so i'm told .

[spanks]

Do like Karma on either the SS or Calais wagons.....suits the shape well

[steves87]

its been my favourite since i first saw it... had to get it

[SammyK]

Cant wait to see the finished product Adam, you gotta post pics when its all done mate

[ADAM 26]

ill get pics up when the old girl is done,

[mjrandom]

On the build plate on my E2

colour: KARMA

in the manual,

colour: blue.

That should help!!!

[VX-300]

2010 VE Paint Codes

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[Marco]

Does anyone know what the F, N and R in all of those paint codes mean? Is it a reference to the primer required or something like that? There doesn't seem to be a pattern to it - for example, Wildfire is 662R and is gold/orange, whereas I'm pretty sure Ignition is 341N and is also orange.

[bush_basha]

Bit of a Dig, but its regarding the last post that no one answered, im hoping someone knows or will know how to find out the primer colour/Code of the cars before the final coat goes on to make it an HSV Colour, im wanting to know because i would like to do a bit of paint work to mine but need to know the primer colour so its the correct colour, my colour is Ignition 341N if that counts. cheers

[GTSLOVER]

The letters attached to the numbers on a paint code mean nothing. They are simply part of the paint code assigned to that colour. As far as primer colour goes the colour is a generic white/beige/off grey for the body and panels wheras the plastic bars are simply sprayed with a clear plastic trim primer before having colour applied. This is why you notice that bumper colours can have a different tone to the paint on most vehicles.

You really need to know what you are doing with these new colours, especially more so the metallic and pearl colours. Each layer of colour applied changes the colour of the paint, the distance and speed of your spray will change the colours appearance and even changing the air pressure being sprayed or the fan width and amount of fluid to the gun will change the appearance. It is more so these above things that affect the paint finish rather than the primer colour underneath.

Bear in mind that there are also variants of the paint code that will not be listed on your build plates. For example when a painter checks his paint code for the paint he uses there may be 690R (Y) and 690R (B) listed as well as the original. That will mean that there is the original paint formula for the colour as well as a yellower and bluer version hence Y and B. This is honestly not something that anyone with no training would pick. It happens because car companies put out a tender for paint companies to supply a certain amount of paint to them for their vehicles. If that colour is popular or stays for a long time then a further tender may need to be put out to which the original paint supplier may not win hence the new company may supply the colour which looks identical but is minutely different when it comes to colour matching for repair purposes etc. only experienced painters will pick and know about these variants.

As far as tinting primers goes only re sprayed vehicles or show vehicles may have tinted primer to help a colour cover. It is mainly done to help translucent colours cover such as yellows oranges and reds. That is all it is done for, purely to aid coverage of the paint. As far as changing or enhancing colours this is done in the top coats. For example if I spray a white down and then lay orange over the top the Orange will be enhanced and appear brighter. This is also done on candy colours as well. No factory paint job is a true candy colour though, it is too time consuming and hard to perfect for a factory to bother with. Even Fords candy apple red back in the XW GT was not a candy colour, it was simply a name they called their red.

Hope this helps

[bush_basha]

Wow thanks for the reply, and what a great reply at that, very informative. So basically a certain colour doesn't have a certain primer it's just the same primer for each colour? I would probably use that primer filler stuff or just rough up my paint and go over the top of it.
I was going to give spraying my boot and skirts ago one day but now you've got me worried, haha. I think I'll still give it a crack, can't do any harm, all it'll cost is paint and time.

[GTSLOVER]

Wow thanks for the reply, and what a great reply at that, very informative. So basically a certain colour doesn't have a certain primer it's just the same primer for each colour? I would probably use that primer filler stuff or just rough up my paint and go over the top of it.
I was going to give spraying my boot and skirts ago one day but now you've got me worried, haha. I think I'll still give it a crack, can't do any harm, all it'll cost is paint and time.

Yep, same primer for each colour. The only way to learn is to give it a go. Everyone can tell you how to do it and books can teach you how to do it but the only way to really get the understanding of it is to do it. Good luck mate, have fun with it