Cannonball Run Australia 2012

[Evman]

Cannonball Run (http://www.cannonballworld.com/events/cannonball-run-oz-12)

This is a dream for most but a real possibility for others. Cannonball Run is coming to Australia in February 2012. With a 10k buy in it's not the cheapest of events but for anyone that's seen their videos you get a lot for your money. Hopefully we'll get some home grown grunt in there among the high end supercars, euro and jap imports. Anyone thinking of entering be sure to let us all know!

[overkillgts]

Where does the race start an finish

[Evman]

According to the link it starts in Brisbane for a 3000km run. That's too short to get to Perth so I'm not sure where it'd end. Perhaps Radelaide?

[whitels1ss]

Sounds like fun.:)
A quick link to an old one...
YouTube - cannonball run

[Evman]

The route will be a closely guarded secret as always

For obvious reasons :yup:

[185iboy]

Would love to enter...I wonder how many people are gonna get impounded :rofl:

[Cmycv8]

Maybe Badseed can show them how it's done.

[VTV691]

I reckon it will go thru middle of australia.. hot open roads;)

[Hi Octane]

http://www.auzrun.com/

[Evman]

Goog maps says that Brisbane-Sydney-Melbourne-Adelaide is 2550km. I reckon that'd be it.

[kriminal]

at least with overseas you just cop the over night or pay the large fine.. here it will be license suspened, record etc... man that sux... (doesnt really matter, not like i have a spare 10k to do that:bawl::bawl:)

would rather do the USA or Europe ones:driving::burnout::burnout:

[v8dude78]

Anyone have the number's to this weeks tattslotto draw :deal:

[whitels1ss]

Anyone have the number's to this weeks tattslotto draw :deal:

I like your thinking! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[TUFFIE]

Don't give up so early boys, think about it 4 ppl 2.5 k each share the drive etc...how much would it be...:smilesandbanana:

[Evman]

Don't give up so early boys, think about it 4 ppl 2.5 k each share the drive etc...how much would it be...:smilesandbanana:

That's also potentially 48 demerit points to lose before the car has to be parked :lol:

[Toddler78]

if its anything like the US ones you have to submit your drive and have to be invited, entry fee doesnt garuentee entry

[feistl]

If it wasnt for the impound risk and loss of license, i would do this in a heartbeat. Actually very well priced considering... I remember looking at doing it in Europe but it was like $130k for 10 days :(.

(BTW im not rich at all, but i would be happy to work and save for 9-12 months to do it).

[v8dude78]

Don't give up so early boys, think about it 4 ppl 2.5 k each share the drive etc...how much would it be...:smilesandbanana:

Thats not a bad idea tuffie, might need a few drivers wonder how far you could get before losing all your points :burnout::burnout::burnout:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[feistl]

Thats not a bad idea tuffie, might need a few drivers wonder how far you could get before losing all your points :burnout::burnout::burnout:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Would be interesting though, 200+ expensive supercars impounded less than 10km into victoria....

[CALDIR]

Hi

If someone has a real car to enter, I don't give a crap about my licence so I am your driver!:)

I will seriously give it my best shot.

regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[Martin_D]

And you also need a car that can run flat out for that long....not easy :)

[HSVnut]

i can see the headlines already, 'today over 10 million dollors worth of cars crushed under the new hoon laws' lol

[BEARWOOD]

Wait until the pollies hear about this!! They will be extra hard on anyone who "they" think is apart of this to try and discourage it. i hope no one gets killed by anyone racing in this, it will be a big blow for everyone, media will blow it up big time.

[whitels1ss]

And you also need a car that can run flat out for that long....not easy :)

Some people say that "You could build such a car Martin!" :)

[feistl]

And you also need a car that can run flat out for that long....not easy :)

My VX happily did 180 laps of Sandown with 38 degree track temp with only a 1 hour break for lunch. (Running consistent 1m30s laps).

Mind you, being a petrol station owner on the route would be awesome :)

[Evman]

And you also need a car that can run flat out for that long....not easy :)

Even a lot of the supercars break down :lol:

[Skedy]

2 japanese drivers did die in the cannonball run through NT in 1994
in a F40 aswell

hopefully i luck out a just happen upon there route with a camera doubt it though

[RIDE:42]

The amount of times i have driven bris /syd/melb i know how quick i can do the distance non stop.
Now the ute is set up a lot better WHERE THE **** DO I SIGN UP .
Ritchie i know you got the balls to man up and i may need some ballist in the back YOU in ????

[overkillgts]

Might have to put the manual back in

[TUFFIE]

Thats not a bad idea tuffie, might need a few drivers wonder how far you could get before losing all your points :burnout::burnout::burnout:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

LOL who cares.... it will be worth it....get a forum sponsor on board to look after the car for us....

[Uwish]

Mmmm sounds good for the LP640. Might see if my Brother wants to do this.
Would be fun I think ;)

[HSV Listy]

And you also need a car that can run flat out for that long....not easy :)

Martin I dont think it would be too much of a problem reliability. In one day the misses and I travelled 1750 km (misses drove down) pretty well as fast as the roads could take us. Around 8.5 hours later including fuel stops we were in alice springs. That was a bog stock off the shelf VX GTS and it never missed a beat. A little bit of oil when we got there was it. 2 days later we went back and made it in a tad over 9 hours. I drove back but i blamed I had to go up hill. :)

It is not that hard just need the right car and suited for the job.

We did a number of runs from darwin to alice in the GTS but never that quick. Generally 10 hours on average including fuel brakes.

If it was from Darwin to Alice springs I would round up some sponsorship and go do it no question.

[ls2GTS]

id put the manual back in to do this :D Would be awsome

[TommyVTss]

Don't give up so early boys, think about it 4 ppl 2.5 k each share the drive etc...how much would it be...:smilesandbanana:

I'm in tuff

[v8dude78]

C'mon someone had to put it up :driving:




YouTube - Canon Ball Run 1

[VYSHSV8]

I will run he VY flat out for the distance :):)

And yes I am serious :):)

Or more to the point who is behind me :):)

Diesired Race NO is LS series IE LSX OR LS69 yr of birth :)

[BEARWOOD]

Fark im half thinking of dong this. It's hard to hand the $$ over to someone or something i don't know but. 5k per person and pay it over 12 months makes it quite doable for alot of people.

[XUV]

Would be interesting though, 200+ expensive supercars impounded less than 10km into victoria....

They should boycott VIC and N.S.W. , Start in tassie , then air lift to N.T. .

Guess selection will be like targa Tasmania ,

so take heart that there'll be alot of porsche , Ferrari and Lambo bois missing out too :goodjob:

[HSV Listy]

They should boycott VIC and N.S.W. , Start in tassie , then air lift to N.T. .

Guess selection will be like targa Tasmania ,

so take heart that there'll be alot of porsche , Ferrari and Lambo bois missing out too :goodjob:

Agree. Start from the NT. Better roads by a long shot and stacks safer with bugger all traffic. It used to be a cannan ball run most weekends with someone up here. The roads are fine for it and easily allow the high end cars to get to top speeds. Before the limits were brought in people did get over 330km/h before on some stretches in some lambos.
It will be so stupidly policed down there it would be a joke to go over the limit with the anti hoon laws. Police would be so far ahead of this it would not be funny.

[Tre-Cool]

brisbane to darwin would be a better route. thats 3.5K according to google maps.

[fishla]

LOL who cares.... it will be worth it....get a forum sponsor on board to look after the car for us....

So we're using the Grange and NJC will look after us? :goodjob::jester:

[VTV691]

brisbane to darwin would be a better route. thats 3.5K according to google maps.


Brisbane to Alice Springs is 2,993km according to google maps:)

[TUFFIE]

So we're using the Grange and NJC will look after us? :goodjob::jester:

Why the hell NOT...:1peek: On second though, lets use the cruiser, think of the short cuts we can take...

[AQICLS3]

The end point is Melbourne so I have been told

[Tre-Cool]

My Deposit is in.

There are 2 other perth guys that im aware of that have also entered.

[VTV691]

My Deposit is in.

There are 2 other perth guys that im aware of that have also entered.

Gratz Dave!
:goodjob:

[Djbarnstar]

My Deposit is in.

There are 2 other perth guys that im aware of that have also entered.

Walking the walk. I like it. Have fun.

[XUV]

the machine that won the first Aussie Cannonball , when it was a straight dash to the finish .

http://www.handlebars.com.au/images/charlie0011_175.jpg
couldn't find a bigger pic , but I remember the ute being on the front page of the Sun .

In 1984 Charlie competed in the Annual Cannonball Run in 1984.
Driving a 6 wheel, 2 tonne, black holden HZ tray top ute,
the run entailed a 3000 km, speeding, lying, bribing journey
from Melbourne to Perth in less than 30 hours- which Charlie and his co - driver won.

[Tre-Cool]

The good thing about the event is it's not emphasing speed, but rather a memorable event to enter for the parties, Girls and fellow car ethusiast's.

i've watched all the europe / american style tv shows and to me this is one of those things that you go "man, if I had the money would love to do one of these events if only for the memory and being able to say, yeah i did the cannonball".

$10K is cheap considering it includes accomodation/food & i think possibly flights to brisbane for the start.

[AQICLS3]

The good thing about the event is it's not emphasing speed, but rather a memorable event to enter for the parties, Girls and fellow car ethusiast's.

i've watched all the europe / american style tv shows and to me this is one of those things that you go "man, if I had the money would love to do one of these events if only for the memory and being able to say, yeah i did the cannonball".

$10K is cheap considering it includes accomodation/food & i think possibly flights to brisbane for the start.

You not taking your car?

[jai]

You dont neccessarily have to get from point A to B the quickest, you need to be able to unlock all the codes!!!

[Tre-Cool]

yeah. i'll send my car over.

not quite sure which one yet.. got over 12 months to decide though. :lol:

[ls2GTS]

Very keen on this. Going to find a co driver then submit :)

[XUV]

The biggest problem in getting selected is , you'll need an exotic/rare car ,
just to beat the celeb factor and the car sponsorship they'd get .

Hope pay shows it .

[Tre-Cool]

While not the cannonball, but the gumball 3000 is a similar event. You can watch the 2009 vids here.

YouTube - Gumball 3000 'Coast to Coast' - Episode 1: Santa Monica

[dawkinsdisciple]

the machine that won the first Aussie Cannonball , when it was a straight dash to the finish .

http://www.handlebars.com.au/images/charlie0011_175.jpg
couldn't find a bigger pic , but I remember the ute being on the front page of the Sun .

In 1984 Charlie competed in the Annual Cannonball Run in 1984.
Driving a 6 wheel, 2 tonne, black holden HZ tray top ute,
the run entailed a 3000 km, speeding, lying, bribing journey
from Melbourne to Perth in less than 30 hours- which Charlie and his co - driver won.


yeah. i'll send my car over.

not quite sure which one yet.. got over 12 months to decide though. :lol:


thats awesome - the trip down memory lane to the year of my birth and the winner being a 6 whelled HZ of all things and the torch being passed onto others ballsy and motivated enough to go it themselves

i remember the 1993 (i think) one that resulted in tradgedy - i really hope this event manages to avoid that for its own future sake. i'm not aware of any being run in the intervening 15 years?

[Evman]

Anyone thinking of entering had better get onto it pretty quickly. Apparently there are around 20 cars from W.A. alone already booked and paid. Not only that but there are entrants coming in from over seas as well! From what I've been reading the organiser is really stepping up to help out and has said he's going to try and organise trucks to get the W.A. cars over there for a cheap rate. Looks like this bloke is really going the whole nine yards to minimise the hassle for the entrants and to make this event a cracker.

It's only a rumour but the prize is up around 25k ;) I dare say this is subject to change with the more cars they get.

[zapher007]

Apparently it's 3000ks over 7 days so thats average of 428ks a day which isn't too far at all....with a hangover as they said the parties each night are awesome!!

And $10,000 is cheap really. Say a motel at $150 a night for 7 nights = $1050. Food each day @ $150 a day for 2 people = $1400. Plus the party each night @ $150 a day for the 2 people once you book the function centre etc = $1400 more = $3850.

And the organising etc would cost heaps. If it is anything like the last one with blocked roads etc for timed fast sections.....that costs serious $'s. On a house show the other night they were talking $3000 a day for a little lane. So to block of sections of highway would be heaps more.

I WANT TO GO IN IT!!!

[Dieselmoe]

There is the next Auzrun which goes from Melb to Noosa in august next year
The 2010 has just been run which went from Sydney to Adelaide.
I flew up from Melb and went to the First night party which was on the 17th floor @ Star city(austal Bar) and grogged on with the Potbelliez playing to the Entrants AND the gorgeous models.......
Speaking to the organizers(actually he gave me a call)...they all had a ball,and cannot wait till next years...

WHICH WE HAVE ENTERED.....

Get the munro to show them how ya do a decent skid....haha

Seriously..well ran,great value for money,hot chicks and no sleep with plenty of partyin....with a bit of Motorsport thrown in

Pm me if you want any more info..!!

[Martin_D]

$10K to drive on public roads at the posted speed limit. Really? :eek:
Maybe I didnt read it right.

Why not spend the same money (less) on <insert Targa High Country, Targa West, etc. etc.> and drive unlimited in a proper racing environment? Not criticising, just saying, that is all...

[skidmarx]

Think you will find its more about the party, the experience, the shennanigans than actual racing Martin. Its about partaking in a once in a lifetime event. Atleast thats why I entered.

[Martin_D]

Fair enough, its more a social event, not a motorsport thing. Look at it as a $10K holiday I suppose :cool:

[skidmarx]

$10k for a holiday for two with some great cars & likeminded people. Sounds great to me.

Like a contiki tour for hoons ;)

[Martin_D]

Do they give you any race track time?
Like some of the 'rallies' do where they stop at various tracks and let you have some laps

[Tecca]

Isn't this a rip-off of Gumball 3000 lol

[skidmarx]

I was speaking with the organiser last night, and he did mention there would be events/challenges on tracks. Couldnt say where without giving away locations tho...

[BEARWOOD]

It sort of sounds like "The Amazing Race" in a car...it will still be good fun no doubt.

[ls2GTS]

I spoke to the organizer on friday and got alot of info from sounds like a really fun holiday/event. so far theres 26 people form perth that have entered. and he is trying to organize a corrier company to pick up our cars and transport them there and back included in the 10k entry fee. 10k is not bad for 2 people, gets ur car there and back, flights, accomodation, track time, and food and drinks everynight. prize money is 25k cash :)

[Dieselmoe]

$10K to drive on public roads at the posted speed limit. Really? :eek:
Maybe I didnt read it right.

Why not spend the same money (less) on <insert Targa High Country, Targa West, etc. etc.> and drive unlimited in a proper racing environment? Not criticising, just saying, that is all...

Agree...to a point
To run those events ...(which i have done)you have to have a full blown race (cams)spec etc etc
with these types of events its about fun,socializing,talking about your cars experiences etc
Its nice to go to an Event,have it all planned for you,hang out with the hottest fun loving chicks,party each night...get the picture?

have you ever done one of the Targa events?
No1 Stress
No2 you think 10k ....try 25-30 for a targa...properly
No3 you generally break something
No4 bit more dangerous(even the best nearly kill themselves!!)

Nah for me its well worth it
My 2 cents worth

[TommyVTss]

entered :)

[XUV]

http://www.cannonballworld.com/wp-content/gallery/best-of-gallery/7.jpg
Oh the fun you'll have :goodjob:
So jealous , wish i could enter .

[Tre-Cool]

Fair enough, its more a social event, not a motorsport thing. Look at it as a $10K holiday I suppose :cool:
That's why im doing it.

Probably such a high rate of people in the west entering because it's a decent way away from home. So it really does become a Holiday.

I dont like traveling Overseas so spending some money in our backyard is a plus too.

[mcsquirt]

With fixed and mobile speed cameras, several state Governments will enjoy your contribution. The accommodation they provide is a bit rough though!.

May I suggest a track day or a CAMS license is easier, safer (for the other road users) and way more fun!

[Martin_D]

I dont think you will find their is any speeding condoned on public roads with this event mcsquirt....not like the Smokey and the Bandit stuff of legend. Remember this is Australia, nanny capital of the world.
Imagine the OH&S policy statement for the event :lol:

[seedyrom]

Yeah, but he who dares, wins.





$25,000 ... and possibly a months free garaging of your vehicle

[TommyVTss]

update:

the organiser just called me and explained it all sounds like an awesome event,

30 cars in 4 days he was rapt said he couldnt believe how fast spots were filling,

5* hotels etc not an open bar (drinks with dinner though) cause he was scared the aussies would send him broke :rofl:

bring it on

[skidmarx]

Just got a similar call Tommy. See you there ;)

[Blown 454 AWD]

The mind boggles .......

450 ci, 7.4L, 4L80e, TruTrac, 381mm 6pot, AWD, 150 mm clearance 5-600 awkw. 18-2000 mn

Sounds like a lambo would have its work cut out against that up through the gutz of oz on crappy roads?

The mind boggles .......

Wouldn't it be fun

Cheers

Steve

[Tre-Cool]

The mind boggles .......

450 ci, 7.4L, 4L80e, TruTrac, 381mm 6pot, AWD, 150 mm clearance 5-600 awkw. 18-2000 mn

Sounds like a lambo would have its work cut out against that up through the gutz of oz on crappy roads?

The mind boggles .......

Wouldn't it be fun

Cheers

Steve
DO IT Steve!!!!

[XUV]

The mind boggles .......

450 ci, 7.4L, 4L80e, TruTrac, 381mm 6pot, AWD, 150 mm clearance 5-600 awkw. 18-2000 mn

Sounds like a lambo would have its work cut out against that up through the gutz of oz on crappy roads?

The mind boggles .......

Wouldn't it be fun

Cheers

Steve

and I think you'd need to put in a huge drop tank .... outa intrest what do you get l per 100 ?

And yes the AWD would be the way to go .

[zapher007]

Isn't this a rip-off of Gumball 3000 lol

.....which is a rip-off of the Cannonball Run. :)

[C4B]

What size deposits are people paying for entry to this event (and when is the balance of the $10,000 due?)

[Tre-Cool]

What size deposits are people paying for entry to this event (and when is the balance of the $10,000 due?)
$1045 deposit through paypal. remaining to come in $1000 payments. or pay the whole lot off. upto the individual.

They havent set payment terms as yet.

[Rub]

The mind boggles .......

450 ci, 7.4L, 4L80e, TruTrac, 381mm 6pot, AWD, 150 mm clearance 5-600 awkw. 18-2000 mn

Sounds like a lambo would have its work cut out against that up through the gutz of oz on crappy roads?

The mind boggles .......

Wouldn't it be fun

Cheers

Steve

Never seen pics of this thing :(

[TommyVTss]

It's really affordable I dunno why more guys haven't got on,

[heavyduty1340]

I mentioned it to the wife today, and she didnt blurt out "no f@cking way" - so I will keep working on her

I might have a chance yet :bow:

[hsv05]

The start hotel is the Palazzo Versace i'm in.

[huggies]

hmmm....
the paying off in installments makes it very tempting :)
would be a mad holiday....

[warlobo]

The mind boggles .......

450 ci, 7.4L, 4L80e, TruTrac, 381mm 6pot, AWD, 150 mm clearance 5-600 awkw. 18-2000 mn

Sounds like a lambo would have its work cut out against that up through the gutz of oz on crappy roads?

The mind boggles .......

Wouldn't it be fun

Cheers

Steve

I've had over 10yrs driving Ad's and avalanches on country roads, did Albury to Sydney in 3.5hrs, have done Melb to Cairns return, whole lotta interstate trips, have never been beaten, as you say the clearance is the killer, nothing has beaten me on a trip. I've had 330rwkw VY, and numerous other vehicles, nothing comes close, even on the Hume they cant sit on high speeds without bottoming.

You gotta driver Steve seriously if you wanna? I also gotta 330kw one that needs some repair if anyone is interested in doing something??? Lets chat. That is using coil overs too, slightly lowered say 1'5-2'' is the go. Still loads of cleaarence. A full tank does a couple of hours around the high 100's to 2 mark, so yeah a bigger tank would put it right in the running for mine.

[warlobo]

A full tank of premium did that Alb-Syd trip, slowest speed 100mph. UHF and detector mandatory items.

[hsv05]

Spoke to Tim over the weekend, the event is being commissioned for TV by the Discovery channel .

They are also going to have their new 2012 UBB 1000 BHP mustang at the start.

This is going to be a blast, the TV will help me get some small sponsors on board

[hsv05]

Holy moly these guys don't stop, has any one seen the new cannonball world events app yet its up on their web site.
I heard it being mentioned a few weeks ago but its done and up and it looks cool .

[hsv05]

Cannonball HQ have now set up a toll free number 1-800-424-496 so as I did if you have any questions call them, don't forget the time difference !

[hsv05]

Cannonball Run MD coming in to Sydney next wednesday if any one wants to meet up for a beer with him he's staying central Sydney then heading North to Brisbane

[BLACK-SV8]

hmmm is this based on the original movie made in like the 90s ? cannonball run? with the orig lamob countach?

if so... i loved that movie haha

[TommyVTss]

Everyone paid up ? Not long to go now!!

[Tre-Cool]

unfortunatly for me it's looking like a no goer.

the car that i was wanting to take on this, hasnt even got an engine built for it.

[jai]

Anyone had much luck getting some sponsors on board for parts in exchange for advertising space on the car?

[Tre-Cool]

Anyone had much luck getting some sponsors on board for parts in exchange for advertising space on the car?
no, but feel free to work it out for me. :lol:

[TommyVTss]

Well that sucks tre,

Hopefully I'm not the only person there in a commodore bogans ftw

I'll have a couple njlsx stickers as nick has looked after me,

And maybe a couple more

[Tre-Cool]

Anyone else pulled out besides myself as of late, only a few weeks still to go for this.

[jai]

Cannonball Run... like a packet of sherbet

[skidmarx]

Trecool - i had to pull out also. It was either this, or the stroker rebuild....

The 416 is great!

[Tre-Cool]

i had a few mates entered over here in perth who also pulled out. so i was curious to know the numbers.

[aussiemuscle308]

the run entailed a 3000 km, speeding, lying, bribing journey from Melbourne to Perth
i remember reading of a charity bash in outback NSW, the copper pulled over one participant for speeding, he made them give a $1000 donation to charity, then let them go. i suppose that's the only real way to run a proper cannonball is if the police are on side and anyone in the race that gets pulled over, the copper 'asks' them for a donation to the police ball for them to continue.

[aussiemuscle308]

hmmm is this based on the original movie made in like the 90s ? cannonball run? with the orig lamob countach?

if so... i loved that movie haha
actually, 1981!!!

No, it's nothing like that.
i assume there's no speeding allowed, so they do a sort of trivia game. solve the puzzle that tells you where to go next, sort of thing.



Originally Posted by Tecca View Post
Isn't this a rip-off of Gumball 3000 lol

.....which is a rip-off of the Cannonball Run. :)

.....which is a rip-off of The Gumball Rally (1976) :teach:

[MARRA]

Wondering if this was still happening - was waiting for it to appear on Today Tonight about people paying $10K to some american promoter and never hearing from him again....

[Tre-Cool]

english promoter.....

[seedyrom]

http://www.theracingroom.com.au/pages/a_standard.asp?cid=-827023547&aid=1046191236

[XUV]

so did it start , anyone in it ??
I've heard nothing

[Djbarnstar]

Event postponed due to weather & tv. Rescheduled to April 2012

[TommyVTss]

Wondering if this was still happening - was waiting for it to appear on Today Tonight about people paying $10K to some american promoter and never hearing from him again....

you may not be wrong, i paid him 10k abd wanted a refund because it got postponed, he de-friend me on facebook and blocked me,

im a bit worried to be honest

looks like a con artist to me

[BEARWOOD]

Can you contact him by phone or email?

[matthewfnorbert]

where is hsv05? seemed to be plugging this thing hard and had a line to the promoter, maybe he knows what is going on


something stinks

[TommyVTss]

Can you contact him by phone or email?

no i cant phone is d/c

he does whats called a ubb mustang so i can contact him through that i think, however its the same number as the cannonball

[XUV]

you may not be wrong, i paid him 10k abd wanted a refund because it got postponed, he de-friend me on facebook and blocked me,

im a bit worried to be honest

looks like a con artist to me
yeah , he did the facebook thing to me too , but i think his mums crook .
anyway ,
Tim Porter
12668 East 116th Street #128
Fisher
IN 46037
US Tel: 317-531-2486 or UK Tel: 01403 276191
Email: info@ubbmustang.com
Vice President of Marketing
Jennifer Murphy
Email: jenniferubb@gmail.com

[VY-SV8]

the email is a free gmail account... that would have set off serious alarm bells for me. No one use gmail for a legitimate business.

[Toddler78]

I know its easy to say it in retrospect however this stunk of a scam to me when it was first posted I honestly hope its not but I couldnt see the AUS police allowing these antics to take place like what happens in the US

[Martin_D]

Cannonball scams have been around forever.
http://www.mischief.tv/forums/archive/index.php/t-46884.html

[Djbarnstar]

10k Ripoff. That really sucks. Plus I'm sure plenty of people would have put big dollars into their cars getting them ready for the event.

[ssv402]

So was this whole thing a big scam? :\

[Martin_D]

Who knows? Not me!
However look at the facts -
A 'motorsport event' with -

No route defined
At speed limits on public roads
No CAMS/AASA accreditation
No published insurance documents
No Supp Regs published....

a $10K entry fee which is ready to be paid NOW

...and a gmail contact
Could be a case of fools and their money are soon parted! :eek:

[hsv364]

Anyone thinking of entering had better get onto it pretty quickly. Apparently there are around 20 cars from W.A. alone already booked and paid. Not only that but there are entrants coming in from over seas as well! From what I've been reading the organiser is really stepping up to help out and has said he's going to try and organise trucks to get the W.A. cars over there for a cheap rate. Looks like this bloke is really going the whole nine yards to minimise the hassle for the entrants and to make this event a cracker.

It's only a rumour but the prize is up around 25k ;) I dare say this is subject to change with the more cars they get.

Martin - Just ask Ev he is the no all forum guru :lol:

[Martin_D]

It struck me as a bit odd that someone from England is organising an event in Australia with no supplied information other than a starting point and an immediately payable price. While it may well be legit this is not how any other successful motor racing event in Australia as ever been run :)

Could be related to the oil rig worker that wants your car off Carsales, you just need to pay some fees.....

[zorro]

I would of thought that being effectively a business it's organizers in the USA may have had a hand in it, that to me would of been a first warning. The others well that's each to their own.

I did have two of the old mans mates keen to give this a hit however when organiser was questioned on lack of said information, event sponsorship, car decals or the best any sort of organisation of the promoter they backed out. I could ask for copies of emails but to give an idea when they got responses they were weeks late, very short and all pointed to pay now and you will receive your entrant pack that's all the info you need.

I hope the blokes who are 10 large down can get some resolve out of this.

[Martin_D]

I hope the blokes who are 10 large down can get some resolve out of this.

I dont think you will find anyone was silly enough to put $10K into vapour. So no biggie.

[Tre-Cool]

there were a couple of guys who entered both the US version and the aus one. The US one did happen and they said it was pretty wild (parties that is) and was a good event.

Deposit of 1k was all that was needed than the final payment within 6 months (ending in december) I had just put in a new unbudgeted engine so i had to pull out. Lucky I guess as the time frame wouldnt have suited me.

[zorro]

I dunno Martin, there are plenty out there happy to part with large chunks of money for no return just read the hocking thread......

No doubt it's a BIG kick in the nuts but you know you take your chances win or lose

[WIKED]

When I first saw this on the forum I enquired and then Tim rang me and we spoke about it.
I paid the $1000 deposit (my mate paid half). Anyway my mate had to pull out a few months later so I asked Tim for a refund as he had family reasons and was told I could have one of the chicks or a TV cameraman in with me if I wanted.
I declined and at that point really kissed my deposit goodbye as Tim avoided the refund questions like a seasoned politician.

After reading it's been postponed and the other stories I am happy we didn't pay the remainder.

I hope it goes ahead and the people who paid get their monies worth.

[TommyVTss]

Cannonball scams have been around forever.
http://www.mischief.tv/forums/archive/index.php/t-46884.html

it actually seems that tim gave them the heads up, i cant make heads or tails of this,
he actually rang me and told me he was going to do a refund, why would you bother if its a scam ?

the media release forms he sent are legit i called the media company, based in melbourne,

very strange, and as said he has hosted a few before

[AQICLS3]

3/ PAYMENT / CANCELLATION
A holding deposit of $1000 is required at time of booking to reserve your place with the remaining balance due 1st October 2011. Monthly instalments are recommended so
please contact the Organisers for further details. Late payments will incur an administration charge of $400, cancellation of the booking or refusal to the event without refund.
Please contact the organizers for bank or Paypal details if you wish to send payment by money transfer which will incur a $25 per transaction charge. Payments may be made
with Aus dollar check payments without incurring any surcharges. The organizers reserve the right to cancel or postpone the event or any part thereof should circumstances
arise. If it proves necessary for the organizer to cancel the event, a full and immediate refund will be issued or where possible an alternative date offered. In the event of a natural bdisaster, flood, fire, strike, other acts of God, outbreak of civil war, or in the case where the event or the route, or any part of the route, cannot be completed for any reason but not limited to the prevention of the entry in to any state, or any other circumstances which in the Organizer’s opinion forces them to suspend or terminate the Event, the company will not be liable for the refund of the entry fee or any part thereof. After the commencement of the event the organizer will not make any refund of the entry fee or pay compensation to you if you are unable to continue in the event for any reason whatsoever. You acknowledge that the route of the event is very demanding and if you do not manage to complete any part of the route and/or are unable to stay at the provided venues for any reason whatsoever you will not be entitled to a refund of any part or the entire entry fee. The organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in, or to cancel the event, at any time for any reason whatsoever (without being obliged to disclose the reason). In case of refusal to allow you to participate or your refusal to supply the organizer with the necessary documentation, no refunds of the entry fee will be made. Upon entering the event, the venues are hired and dropping out does not entitle you to any compensation regardless of circumstance therefore it is your responsibility to take any relevant insurances to cover your losses under such circumstances. If you decide to cancel your entry then written confirmation must be sent by the person who has signed the entry form and will result in the loss of the full entry fee.


http://www.theracingroom.com.au/DocumentLibrary/RatRaceBookingForm2012(1).pdf

[Djbarnstar]

So the fine print says if someone Stubbs their toe, that's ground for cancellation and no refund.....

[TommyVTss]

all good spoke to the cannonball today money is getting refunded, and its 100% legit

tom

[aussiemuscle308]

from Martin_D
No route defined; it could be the route is decided in secret beforehand like the tv show (ie go here, first one to find it gets immunity)
At speed limits on public roads got to get to the next checkpoint somehow. i doubt it would be possible to get an exemption on the speed limits. probably it's on each competitor's head not to break the law.
No CAMS/AASA accreditation they probably didn't want anything to do with it.
No published insurance documents should be available to all entrants.
No Supp Regs published.... should be available to all entrants.
a $10K entry fee which is ready to be paid NOW; expensive to insure an event like this.
...and a gmail contact ; cheapskates! buy a domain and register a proper email address.

[XUV]

all good spoke to the cannonball today money is getting refunded, and its 100% legit

tom
so the whole thing's been canceled ?
hope there's one next year .

[Toddler78]

all good spoke to the cannonball today money is getting refunded, and its 100% legit

tom

tell us when the moneys sitting in your account. Its one thing saying they will refund money its another to actually do it

[Martin_D]

No Supp Regs published.... should be available to all entrants.

In my reasonably narrow experience of these things - supp regs (Supplementary Regulations - which describe the ENTIRE event) are made available to any potential entrant. This is the BLUEPRINT for the event, and the bible which it operates against. Here is a good example of what they should look like -
http://www.mountalmamile.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=y-gkwHrdtOg%3d&tabid=83

I would be extremely careful with funding an event that has no published supp regs or insurance document. The reason these kind of events operate under the likes of a CAMS permit is to use their insurance, which is extensive, and proven in Australia.

However I may be wrong on all this, not being a speed event Cannonball Aus or whatever its called may do just fine, just dont consider it anything to do with motorsport, as it doesnt seem to fit the accepted Austalian template in any way that I am familiar with. However....I do not know everything on the matter.

[Djbarnstar]

So have Peeps got their money back yet?