Battle of the 6s

[Bingo BIlly]

A guy at my work harps on about his 6 cylinder falcon, its a non turbo model but he has a intake mod, full exhaust and a tune too.

Its a BA xr6 with the automatic gearbox. He seems to think its good for 165rwkw and a mid 14 quarter mile and that no holden 6 (not turbo) will get near him.

I contested his claim as i beleive the sv6 should get rid of him? Especially with like mods?

Here are my questions

1. Will a non turbo BA falcon make that sort of power with those mods?

2. Is it likely to run those times

3. What holden 6s non turbo would get him?

[Djbarnstar]

Yes
Yes and
None

He is right.

[OMR346]

Ive seen a non turbo BA XR6 pull off over 180rwkw with a full exhaust, intake and tune. And it has gone mid 14's over the 1/4 mile. So yes, what he says could very well be true.

As for an SV6 doing the same. There is a bloke up here in Brisbane with a VZ SV6. He has a Raptor blower on it now, but before that, he held the record for the fastest unopened Alloytec. He had run 14.3 (from memory) with full exhaust, 3.46:1 gearing, intake mods and a tune by Hi-Torque. So yes, it is also possible out of an SV6.

[Red Beard]

It's fast, but it's still a ford!

[701let]

Bingo your hilarious...

[Bingo BIlly]

Thanks for the replies, im just testing my argument with you fine people before i confront him with a rebuttal

He concedes that my ls1 is quicker but because i modded it. He said if it was stock his xr6 would get me as well. I cant just let it go.

[Jamolad]

Let us know if you manage to up-end him and kick sand in his face :stick:

[boggers007]

If he doesnt shut up and continues to say stuff then ask him how fast he can run it with 2 flat tyres

[swingtan]

I've seen a some what stock VE SV6 pull 190rwkw on Chevs dyno. I remember the figure as it was the same as the VN Injected 5Lt motor made in the Calais we used to own. But peak power fugures mean little when it comes to a 1/4 mile, power under the curve means a whole lot more.

Simon.

[OMR346]

190rwkw? Do you mean 190rwhp? Thats about what a stock VE SV6 would make.

[goose202]

All the specs I can find suggest that a non-turbo BA XR6 runs in the 15s.

Surely it's as simple as that if his isn't modified?

[duke5700]

I didn't realise cars actually did 14 sec qtr miles.. I can certainly tell you the difference between a 165rwkw ford and a 140rwkw SV6.. slow and ****ing slower

Congrats another tip top thread.

[swingtan]

Sorry, my mistype.... Totally stock (and very new) was 130rwkw.

[VXSS346]

How does he know it pulls 14's? Has he raced it? I'm guessing not. :lmao: So it means absolutely nothing.

Personally, I can't stand people that talk crap like that, but won't take it out to prove it. :limpy:

Just ignore his bulls***. That'll piss him off. :lol:

[aussiemuscle308]

sounds like you're upset that a virtually identical 4 door 6 cyl is ever so slightly faster than yours. (face it, falcon and commodore are more alike than they are different). i'd be more worried if it had a toyota badge on it.

[seedyrom]

Just ignore his bulls***. That'll piss him off.

Just ignore Bingo Billy. Its easier.

The ford guy probably is trying to aswell

[james22]

Its not so much the kw difference between the two models. Admittedly the I6 does have over 20kw more on tap, but the torque that the 4.0L produces is far superior to the 3.6L

Over the 1/4, this makes the biggest difference in the lil 6, and if he has the 6pd ZF transmission, then that just amplifies this again.

There's a bloke actually on FF at the moment, building his BF N/A XR6 - Currently sitting around 330RWHP - Yes thats right N/A

But thats hardly a stock vs stock comparison lol

[SM1DY]

and if he has the 6pd ZF transmission, then that just amplifies this again.

If it's a BA then it has the old 4spd, BF came with the ZF6.

[james22]

If it's a BA then it has the old 4spd, BF came with the ZF6.

Correct. My bad - didn't read it properly :goodjob:

[BlackShadowKiwi]

A guy at my work harps on about his 6 cylinder falcon, its a non turbo model but he has a intake mod, full exhaust and a tune too.

Its a BA xr6 with the automatic gearbox. He seems to think its good for 165rwkw and a mid 14 quarter mile and that no holden 6 (not turbo) will get near him.

I could well belive these figures. My previous ride (please forgive me, prior to that was 3 Holdens, and now back in a VE SS) was a FG XR6 6 Speed Auto. Full exhaust, tune and CAI, that dyno'd at 162rwkw.

Never bothered timing the 1/4 mile, but mid to high 14's sound about right.

As for no Holden, maybe not the VE with the 3.6, but a VY with the 3.8 and the same mods could likely have matched it, maybe even have beaten it.

Cheers

[VTSSDUDE]

Sounds like a typical Ford nut, they can't appear to think outside the circle.

[Marco]

Someone's gone to the trouble of modifying a N/A auto 6 cylinder Falcon? And then wants to bang on about it?

:lmao:

Hope he didn't get too big an exhaust, who'd want to amplify that godawful 6 cylinder taxi drone?

[aratic]

Someone's gone to the trouble of modifying a N/A auto 6 cylinder Falcon? And then wants to bang on about it?


Don't know why anyone would bother modifying anything N/A 6 cylinder, be it Ford or Holden :confused:

[SM1DY]

Sounds like a typical Ford nut, they can't appear to think outside the circle.

Lets not generalise an entire population of people, people on both sides of the fence are guilty of big-noting themselves. It's more relative to the type of person they are and not the car they drive.

[Bingo BIlly]

I just find it funny when two people have completely different opinions about things that can be measured precisely. To a hundredth of a second.

The n/a xr6 fellow from work with his whopping 165rwkw persists he has all non turbo holden 6s covered and goes onto say he has stock ls1s covered too??

My version is he and his raspy 6 exhaust could be competitive with holden non turbo 6s of the same vintage and mods, but no chance against a ls1, it would kill him.

[feistl]

I just find it funny when two people have completely different opinions about things that can be measured precisely. To a hundredth of a second.

The n/a xr6 fellow from work with his whopping 165rwkw persists he has all non turbo holden 6s covered and goes onto say he has stock ls1s covered too??

My version is he and his raspy 6 exhaust could be competitive with holden non turbo 6s of the same vintage and mods, but no chance against a ls1, it would kill him.

Mate, some of your threads are classics...

He would have any stock N/A 6 covered. He could probably give a VT stock Gen3 a run for its money, depending on his other mods and the condition of the LS1. (They ran low 14s back in the day, so these days you'd assume power is down a little).

Personally i think your a Ford Troll, trying to stir up arguments about how much better ford is (Both your threads have been specific circumstances were ford is better).

Either way i fail to see what difference it makes. He has a modded car and he's braging about beating stock cars. I could get a Modified N/A V6 commodore faster with the right budget (think something like a VH commodore with a stroked 4.2L Ecotec engine and stripped out interior).

[FireArc]

At a quick glance through the AFF Timeslips, the fastest recorded time for a N/A I6 was achieved by AFF user 'DAZZLER351'. He got 13.907 @ 100.51 MPH in his a BA MK2 Xr6. I know someone was trying to build up an FG to topple this time.

Linky: http://www.fordforums.com.au/timeslips.php?do=quarter&perpage=25&page=13

There are other 13 second times in there for N/A I6's if you can be bothered looking through.

Drive.com.au managed 14.593secs @ 154.32km/h (2.165 60 foot) in their bog stock BF XT:

Linky: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleId=44733

So i would say he has a bit of a right to some of his claims. XR8's and old LS1's were pilling mid to low 14's so on a 'perfect' or 'lucky' run he might well take one out.

[FireArc]

Hope he didn't get too big an exhaust, who'd want to amplify that godawful 6 cylinder taxi drone?

With all due respect, the I6 has one of the best 6 cylinder notes around. An FG F6 or FG XR6T blasting by you at full tilt is an impressive sound, even for a 6 cylinder. The crackle and pop of the angry exhaust during gear changes is very enjoyable.

Compared to a V8, I totally respect where you are coming from. But for what it is, the I6 in recent iterations sounds very tough...for a 6...

[smokey777]

With all due respect, the I6 has one of the best 6 cylinder notes around. An FG F6 or FG XR6T blasting by you at full tilt is an impressive sound, even for a 6 cylinder. The crackle and pop of the angry exhaust during gear changes is very enjoyable.

Compared to a V8, I totally respect where you are coming from. But for what it is, the I6 in recent iterations sounds very tough...for a 6...
I reckon best sounding 6s were the old 186 & 202s used to love them in old torries & the like

[VY18s]

I reckon best sounding 6s were the old 186 & 202s used to love them in old torries & the like


Agreed. New Holden, and Ford 6s sound horrible IMO.

[Ruiner]

Are we comparing apples to apple or apples to pears?
I know amany a L67 that would take this 4l, but now we're into the N/A vs S/C.
But in all things considering the twin cam 4lt put out more power and torque then the old super 6's so I'd say its fair game.

[FireArc]

I dont think there are really any rules to this thread. The question as i read it is:

-whether a modified I6 can put out the power as described in the OP,
-whether an I6 (stock or not) can do mid 14's (or better) down the 1/4 as claimed in the OP,
-whether an I6 (modified or not) can beat a stock LS1 as claimed in the OP,
-whether an I6 yields better results (power, torque, 1/4 mile time, MPH, etc) than a holden V6 when applying the same/similar mods and;
-whether a Holden V6 can smoke a Ford I6 with all N/A bolt-ons put on (i.e. not including forced induction like superchargers etc)

[ittwgn]

I didn't realise cars actually did 14 sec qtr miles.. I can certainly tell you the difference between a 165rwkw ford and a 140rwkw SV6.. slow and ****ing slower

Congrats another tip top thread.

haha agreed why the frk are we discussing 14sec n/a fords????? i,ll be done the 1/4 theyll be at the 1/8th!!!!!cheers!!!!

[ratter]

So with all this drag racing talk Billy, have you at least run your car on the 1/4 to compare numbers

[HYMEY]

Prodyno in rocky have one in the mid 13s at 108ish mph on street tyres. Its a new XR6, not sure of the headers and exhaust, it has stock cams and intake I think zane may have played with the cam timing its making around 200rwkw and backs it up at the track.

cheers

Joel

[MrT]

I didn't realise cars actually did 14 sec qtr miles.. I can certainly tell you the difference between a 165rwkw ford and a 140rwkw SV6.. slow and ****ing slower

Congrats another tip top thread.


I guess your VX SS does 8s then mate??

The bloke asked a question on an open forum.. He is more than welcome to obviously. I can certainly tell you the difference between a VX SS and a 165rwkw ford.. The ford is probably quicker....

p.s. Let it be stated that I am a HOLDEN MAN, always have been so I am not a Ford nut. I just happen to drive what ever is better at the time for 40kish and after owning a VE SSV for 10 months my FG Turbo has it on most if not all levels and thats well before the mods came along.

[Wonky]

As I just said in another thread, a guy I know with a SIDI SV6 ran high 14s at Calder in full street trim with 20" rims/tyres and lots of wheelspin. Think he ran tyres at road pressure. Reckons it was probably good for a mid 14 if everything went right.

[SirNemesis]

I guess your VX SS does 8s then mate??

The bloke asked a question on an open forum..

Wouldn't your face be red if it did :1peek:

I've never understood why Ford owners come on a Holden forum and start arguements. I don't go on Ford forums and start arguements, whats the appeal?

[duke5700]

I guess your VX SS does 8s then mate??

The bloke asked a question on an open forum.. He is more than welcome to obviously. I can certainly tell you the difference between a VX SS and a 165rwkw ford.. The ford is probably quicker.... Wanker..


Actually it probably will if I cut enough metal out of it :goodjob:

See NJC for the 408ci TT LSX build

:eyes:

Bullshit like this has been done to death.. you are talking what 15rwkw difference.. honk snore boring. Its the difference between a good and bad batch of fuel, between a happy and nasty dyno blah blah blah. I am sure there is V6 v I6 threads going back and the same tripe comes up each time.

[feistl]

I guess your VX SS does 8s then mate??

The bloke asked a question on an open forum.. He is more than welcome to obviously. I can certainly tell you the difference between a VX SS and a 165rwkw ford.. The ford is probably quicker....

p.s. Let it be stated that I am a HOLDEN MAN, always have been so I am not a Ford nut. I just happen to drive what ever is better at the time for 40kish and after owning a VE SSV for 10 months my FG Turbo has it on most if not all levels and thats well before the mods came along.

He didnt say something like "All fords are shit slow"... He said both 6 cylinder N/A versions are bloody slow... and i'd agree.

Plus you say the OP is entitled to his opinion on an open forum, well then everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Anything above ~13s is pretty slow... Very much like a taxi. I wouldn't be bragging that my XR6 is faster than the commodore equivalent, because thats not much to brag about.

[Plenty]

I guess your VX SS does 8s then mate??

The bloke asked a question on an open forum.. He is more than welcome to obviously. I can certainly tell you the difference between a VX SS and a 165rwkw ford.. The ford is probably quicker....

p.s. Let it be stated that I am a HOLDEN MAN, always have been so I am not a Ford nut. I just happen to drive what ever is better at the time for 40kish and after owning a VE SSV for 10 months my FG Turbo has it on most if not all levels and thats well before the mods came along.

Hate to change topic but your a dreamer, the only place your Turbo has it over an SS or SS-V for that matter is in a straight line, but that's all been done before!

[EfiJy]

I wouldn't like to kick sand in your face at a bbq, Bingo. You sound like one tought mutha! :)

In all seriousness, the Holden V6 has always had the taller gearing. It's caught up and passed the Falcon I6 for performance and might go better again with an even lower diff?

At the risk of hijacking this interesting thread, I was reading on another forum about rumours of the upcoming GM V6 with 330hp and 8 speed autos. It sounds like it will be a weapon and just might embarrass the V8s of not so long ago.

[SLugg]

With all due respect, the I6 has one of the best 6 cylinder notes around. An FG F6 or FG XR6T blasting by you at full tilt is an impressive sound, even for a 6 cylinder. The crackle and pop of the angry exhaust during gear changes is very enjoyable.

Compared to a V8, I totally respect where you are coming from. But for what it is, the I6 in recent iterations sounds very tough...for a 6...



very true m8 , i would have no problem owning any of the later ford NA 6's.
As a second car to my ss still great to drive good torque and resonably cheap to buy....:eyes:

this ford holden thing has always struck me as a result of the die hard tin top fan "the racing taxi show" has produced , sure ones red and ones blue but they are all rwd cars with different good points and bad , but it sure beats the fwd :flipoff: alternative which seems to pervade the rest of the world.

we all know someone who is a full on holden or ford head and as forums teach us every day we all have opinions , dosnt mean they are always the right ones..:confused:

[whitels1ss]

I didn't realise cars actually did 14 sec qtr miles.. I can certainly tell you the difference between a 165rwkw ford and a 140rwkw SV6.. slow and ****ing slower

Congrats another tip top thread.
Well said Duke! :goodjob:
:sux:

[SM1DY]

.......:popcorn:

[Bingo BIlly]

sorry i have not run my car as ratter asked.

But its full exhaust and intake will take care of my workmate who harps on about his xr6, even he agrees, thats not being contested in this thread.

I personally think the super6 would make light work of a ba i6 with his mods. Add pulley to super6 and its game over, maybe the sv6 isnt our sharpest 6

[QIKMIK]

In all seriousness, the Holden V6 has always had the taller gearing. It's caught up and passed the Falcon I6 for performance and might go better again with an even lower diff?A mate and I once compared a used, loaded VX V6 wagon against a sort of loaded, new BA I6 ute for "scientific research purposes". The wagon always flogged the ute to the limit. Gearing in this case played a big part in who beat who 'cause the Falcon's 190kw had way more power/torque than the 152kw in the VX. Throttle response in the Falcon I6 seems pretty dodgy off the line as well, even in the FG XR6 I drove last year.

Mick

[***VX*R8***]

We raced(private road) my brother's VS V6 auto sedan angainst my friends BA XT auto.
Both have similar k's and no mods. Both cars were really evenly matched.
The Ford would just very slightly pull away at some speeds and the Commodore at others.

Also heard 2 detectives who absolutely thrash their work cars saying that their BA is HEAPS quicker than their VE though.

[seedyrom]

Throttle response in the Falcon I6 seems pretty dodgy off the line as well, even in the FG XR6 I drove last year
Having had 11? BAs/BFs and now FGs 6cyl (non turbo) over the last 8 years (a new car every 9 months), I've found it to be pot luck as to what you get.

The first BA was an absolute screamer. Would light up tyres (tyre?) from a stand still, around corners it was a squealfest from the tyres as you applied power, but the ride quality (XT - povo model) left a lot to be desired. It felt a bit like driving a worked VN Commodore. The BA after that definite was down in power. I got used to this and found subsequent BAs and BFs to have less power than the original screamer.
Having now had 2 FG XR6s, i've found the throttle response to be pretty darn good and the mid range torque to be amazing compared to previous models.


I still have fond memories of the original BA. The OP's workmate who kicks sand in the OPs face at BBQs may have one of those corkers.
The original VN's ('88) were like that aswell. They toned them down cause old ladies couldnt handle how the power came on.

Might be a ford trick of making the first of a model more powerful then the subsequent ones.

[73.RSR]

I had a BA XLS 1 tonner auto with extractors, full system and a modded airbox and it used to fly - it certainly surprised me for a NA 6 - despite the dinosaur rear end I could also put it through Kiama bends quicker than my VY SS Ute - go figure!

[planetdavo]

I have a far easier solution to this question.
Both of you pull out your d!cks and compare their length.
You'll then have a definitive answer.

[v8dude78]

I have a far easier solution to this question.
Both of you pull out your d!cks and compare their length.
You'll then have a definitive answer.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[vyls1wa]

sorry i have not run my car as ratter asked.

But its full exhaust and intake will take care of my workmate who harps on about his xr6, even he agrees, thats not being contested in this thread.

I personally think the super6 would make light work of a ba i6 with his mods. Add pulley to super6 and its game over, maybe the sv6 isnt our sharpest 6



DUDE, who gives a F***, we could spend the next year going on about different motors vs others, adding this mod and that. yeah, the super6 would make light work of the i6 with same mods, but the same would be done to the super6 by a i6T.

Your work mate will be one of those guys that when he buys his next car, it will be better than the rest, cant argue with them, cant reason with them, let them talk shit. Ive worked with these types before, simple answer is, go get your time slip, if they are serious about what they're saying, then back it up, if not, dont engage in the topic with them.

[Marco]

With all due respect, the I6 has one of the best 6 cylinder notes around. An FG F6 or FG XR6T blasting by you at full tilt is an impressive sound, even for a 6 cylinder. The crackle and pop of the angry exhaust during gear changes is very enjoyable.

Compared to a V8, I totally respect where you are coming from. But for what it is, the I6 in recent iterations sounds very tough...for a 6...

I get where you're coming from and have heard a few nice Ford sixes over the years, but in general I reckon almost all sixes (Porsche excluded - must be the flat six making all the difference) sound terrible, especially at low revs.

My Vectra V6 is a case in point - sounds great when you're fully up it (3000rpm+) but pottering around at commuter pace it's all monotonous drone. Dad's VEII Calais is the same.

[Bingo BIlly]

Thia is a forum for like minded people to discuss automotive issues, so lets discuss. Comparisons have been made since the stone age, every time you walk into a shop, why should it be a problem for some here?

Im not burning up inside about the guy at work harping on about his ba xr6 performance, i can still sit at the same lunch table with him, but no harm in putting him back in his box.

I seek some retorts here, to some of the claims made by him

[nikola]

I have a six cylinder BA Ford wagon, and it's a wonderful engine. Much, much better than the Holden 6's. Way smoother, more toque, and it sounds terrific too. Straight 6 engines sound great.

Anyway, I thought I'd add that in to the conversation.

[planetdavo]

Thia is a forum for like minded people to discuss automotive issues, so lets discuss. Comparisons have been made since the stone age, every time you walk into a shop, why should it be a problem for some here?



That's all fine and good, if it was even a genuine "issue"! :rofl:
It's nothing but a :jerk:, and has nothing at all to genuinely compare, bar the fact your buddy has sucked you in. His car "might" beat a red one, but if he's an absolute spud launching it, well, he'll get smoked.
Produce some time slips, or just give up this thread to save yourself further embarrassment...:teach:

[duke5700]

2nd time I have ever agreed with PD.. and I am sure the other time was about the weather.

Top notch Davo top notch.

[planetdavo]

2nd time I have ever agreed with PD.. and I am sure the other time was about the weather.

Top notch Davo top notch.

I thought it was 3 (but I'm probably wrong)...:jester:

[added]

I get where you're coming from and have heard a few nice Ford sixes over the years, but in general I reckon almost all sixes (Porsche excluded - must be the flat six making all the difference) sound terrible, especially at low revs.

My Vectra V6 is a case in point - sounds great when you're fully up it (3000rpm+) but pottering around at commuter pace it's all monotonous drone. Dad's VEII Calais is the same.

I agree if standard but disagree for modified. I have heard a few well done ford I6's and liked it, skylines also. Tooled up rb20 and rb25's sound impressive even when pottering around imo.

[rodp]

With all due respect, the I6 has one of the best 6 cylinder notes around.

I don't think I've ever heard an I6 note that I thought, wow.

I could rattle of a dozen that I prefer over the I6, the R32 being at the top. I do miss that note, stock! :bawl:

[Bingo BIlly]

Why are people getting rabbid? What does my own timeslips have to do with this topic area?

My point is the i6 ford is a reasonable motor but in no way superior to our v6's mod for mod. And they are not in the hunt against our ls1

[701let]

Why are people getting rabbid? What does my own timeslips have to do with this topic area?

My point is the i6 ford is a reasonable motor but in no way superior to our v6's mod for mod. And they are not in the hunt against our ls1

Your an idiot ...

[Kuzman89]

CHE managed 187rwkw out of a SIDI with headers, zorst and tune I believe.
Stock it made 160 or so rwkw. Can't be bothered fnding the info but its on JC.

My non SIDI sv6 is making the same power as the BA with headers, bigger piping and a generic flashtune, ill have to find the dyno sheets but i think shes making 366rwnm. Hoping to get it properly tuned soon.

Reason? Just wanted abit more poke out of my daily and for it to sound abit better. Both of which I've achieved.

rwkw doesn't mean much anyway mate.

[feistl]

Your an idiot ...

That is the general consensus from anybody that reads one of billy's threads.

[brasher]

Your an idiot ...

The irony :bow:

ps. It's You're.

[Kuzman89]

By the way, your friend sounds like a guy I know who drives an AU falcon. Exhaust, headers, cats, tune, piping and some engine work and he harps on about his 150rwkw rocket. Yet to see any dyno sheets, doubt I will lol.
Only thing I've seen is an screenshot of his iphone with the stop watch on 6.9 seconds which he claims is from 0-100. A-grade wanka.

By the way, motor managed 6.4 seconds 0-100 for the SIDI and 14.5 1/4m from memory. The FG pulled 6.9 seconds and 14.9.

[planetdavo]

The irony :bow:

ps. It's You're.

Shouldn't the ps. be "PS:"? :stick:
One might suggest that correcting spelling and punctuation errors could be just slightly more intelligent than billy's bat off thread with his mate...:yup:

[Bingo BIlly]

Tomorrow at the lunch table when he harps on about his xr6

All ive got is that the sidi ve sv6 does 14.5 stock so he should gloat too much.

I still think the supercharged 6 would make light work of him and his mods

[SM1DY]

Tomorrow at the lunch table when he harps on about his xr6

All ive got is that the sidi ve sv6 does 14.5 stock so he should gloat too much.

I still think the supercharged 6 would make light work of him and his mods

A car the is 3-5 yrs newer than his and another with forced induction are going to be your come backs???

You should tell him hw bad a Veyron will smack him, that would surely put him in his place.

[Bingo BIlly]

So what would your comeback be "yes your xr6 will smoke all the holden 6s and rattle the cage of the stock ls1?

Lunch is in about an hour. Ill certainly get into him if he makes any sort of
Comment ( ie he run down a ls1 over the weekend$

[whitels1ss]

I am amazed this thread is still running!:confused:
:sux:

[seedyrom]

Please tell me where you work.
I'd love to know what sort of industry such "adults" work in.

[feistl]

So what would your comeback be "yes your xr6 will smoke all the holden 6s and rattle the cage of the stock ls1?

Well yes, but i would also be mentioning that he had to make a few significant and expensive mods to achieve that. A factory car has to be designed and built to a cost with a decent lifespan and "drivable" for the majority of its owners (EG mums and dads).

Its the same argument with anyone who does mods to any car. The commodore/falcon cars are designed as family saloons with a few performance versions. Even then, they have to meet emissions, be reliable and use the power safely.

The big question i would have for the guy is what other mods has he done? I would be hoping he has upgraded brakes, tyres, suspension and cooling to ensure the car drives properly and is reliable.

Again waaaaay to may people get caught up with how much power a car makes and how fast it'll do 0-100, the real truth (which is hard to measure/brag about) is how a car drives, how safe it is, how economical etc etc etc.

Totally pointless argument

[rodp]

So what would your comeback be "yes your xr6 will smoke all the holden 6s and rattle the cage of the stock ls1?

Lunch is in about an hour. Ill certainly get into him if he makes any sort of
Comment ( ie he run down a ls1 over the weekend$

You should have cornered him in little lunch - or is that nap time?

[hardaz]

One of these threads... Chev badges are awesome too!!! :jester:

[SM1DY]

So what would your comeback be "yes your xr6 will smoke all the holden 6s and rattle the cage of the stock ls1?

Lunch is in about an hour. Ill certainly get into him if he makes any sort of
Comment ( ie he run down a ls1 over the weekend$

His car may very well out-gun the majority of similiarly modified Holden 6's, you have no way of knowing. Just ask for a time slip and forget everything else, your getting dragged into one of this most retarded (yet very common) of arguments, much like I am here.

Get over it Billy

[SS Enforcer]

Anything above ~13s is pretty slow... Very much like a taxi. I wouldn't be bragging that my XR6 is faster than the commodore equivalent, because thats not much to brag about.

The funny thing is a SV6 or XR6 for that matter would probably shit on every muscle car ever built by the big companies in stock trim over the 1/4 mile even with their much heavier weight. Add to that most pre VT and BA 8's.

[VXSS346]

I am amazed this thread is still running!:confused:
:sux:

+1 :hmmm: :spew:

[VYBerlinaV8]

The funny thing is a SV6 or XR6 for that matter would probably shit on every muscle car ever built by the big companies in stock trim over the 1/4 mile even with their much heavier weight. Add to that most pre VT and BA 8's.

Agreed, although we could probably dig up a couple fo exceptions if we really tried.

At the end of the day, who really cares anyway? The guy modded his car to make it a bit faster. Hooray!

To the OP, does it really matter whether or not you have a comeback? I had a guy on the weekend try to tell me he used to have an HQ panel van with a 454 in it that the cops clocked at 347km/h, without the throttle wide open. I just nodded, and drank another one of his beers...

[701let]

Please tell me where you work.
I'd love to know what sort of industry such "adults" work in.

Hahaha the best call yet!

[csv rulz]

Agreed, although we could probably dig up a couple fo exceptions if we really tried.

At the end of the day, who really cares anyway? The guy modded his car to make it a bit faster. Hooray!

To the OP, does it really matter whether or not you have a comeback? I had a guy on the weekend try to tell me he used to have an HQ panel van with a 454 in it that the cops clocked at 347km/h, without the throttle wide open. I just nodded, and drank another one of his beers...

I had a guy with a 1993 BMW 528i tell me he would flog my SS, that i might be able to stick with him up to 180km but he would flog me after that as my car was limited to 180km. When i told him he was dreaming and that my car was not limited to 180km he said well id only have to push the sport button and i would leave you for dead. So i said f**k off w*nker and left it at that.
Some people talk so much shit, it doesnt matter what u say to them they will never change. There not worth the time of day

[VYBerlinaV8]

I had a guy with a 1993 BMW 528i tell me he would flog my SS, that i might be able to stick with him up to 180km but he would flog me after that as my car was limited to 180km. When i told him he was dreaming and that my car was not limited to 180km he said well id only have to push the sport button and i would leave you for dead. So i said f**k off w*nker and left it at that.
Some people talk so much shit, it doesnt matter what u say to them they will never change. There not worth the time of day

Yeah, but this guy was supplying the beer...

:)

[Bingo BIlly]

Lunch came and went, i said i wouldnt say nothing, nut then we were standing outside near the cars and another bloke at work winked at us and said something

"how come you have those chasers on the xr6"

I was thinking why did he have to start him... His excuse was he hit a pothole and his tyre went down... Then he started again...

Im sure it was a jibe at me, he said he was coming on the freeway and a vz ss come round the bend with him, then he said the lanes merged into one about 100 metres up road and the ss booted it and he booted it after him, he said he started about half a car ahead as they went round and to 120km/h he maintained his lead, the ss had to pull in behind him. He also said the ss had an exhaust at least.

I didnt say anything, just walked off as he continued on the other guys

[seedyrom]

I reckon your dads should fight to see whose the toughest

[duke5700]

Seedy are you insinuating that Bingo Billy has two dads?

[whitels1ss]

I reckon your dads should fight to see whose the toughest
Top idea Seedy!:goodjob:
Or perhaps he could open another thread asking the forum who's dad would win? :confused:
Or even a "Who has the biggest **ck?" thread :jester::jester::jester:

[VTSSDUDE]

Seriously let him rave on, I have known blokes like him. I refer to them as blokes with small dick syndrome lol.

[Bingo BIlly]

You all must be proud of me, i walked away without offering a retort (against my better judgement) following advice on here

People like that xr6 guy are like ants, you gotta use ant rid (or give them a retort) otherwise they gain momentum and cause a serious infeststion.

[feistl]

Or even a "Who has the biggest **ck?" thread :jester::jester::jester:

Na, cause i always win and everybody else gets depressed. :)

[701let]

Please tell me where you work.
I'd love to know what sort of industry such "adults" work in.

Hahaha the best call yet!

[MA13TT]

just to put in my 2 cents worth, in my sv6 i have 216 rwhp with a cai, pacemaker headers and tune.

[Irish]

Lunch came and went, i said i wouldnt say nothing, nut then we were standing outside near the cars and another bloke at work winked at us and said something

"how come you have those chasers on the xr6"

I was thinking why did he have to start him... His excuse was he hit a pothole and his tyre went down... Then he started again...

Im sure it was a jibe at me, he said he was coming on the freeway and a vz ss come round the bend with him, then he said the lanes merged into one about 100 metres up road and the ss booted it and he booted it after him, he said he started about half a car ahead as they went round and to 120km/h he maintained his lead, the ss had to pull in behind him. He also said the ss had an exhaust at least.

I didnt say anything, just walked off as he continued on the other guys
:doh:

By the sound of this it seems he may be baiting you. I have a co worker who baited another coworker by saying "My pushbike can do wheelstands whilst your SS can't". This resulted in the SS owner then claiming his SS could indeed do a wheelstand with stock rubber. You sound like the SS owner.

[VYBerlinaV8]

Top idea Seedy!:goodjob:
Or perhaps he could open another thread asking the forum who's dad would win? :confused:
Or even a "Who has the biggest **ck?" thread :jester::jester::jester:

So this bug muscly guy picks up a chick at the pub and takes her home. He pulls off his clothes and she sees he has a tiny half inch knob. So she says "who the hell are you going to satisfy with that??" So he says: "Me".

[Steve-LS2]

So this bug muscly guy picks up a chick at the pub and takes her home. He pulls off his clothes and she sees he has a tiny half inch knob. So she says "who the hell are you going to satisfy with that??" So he says: "Me".

was the half inch when it was hard?? :rofl: :confused:

[VYBerlinaV8]

was the half inch when it was hard?? :rofl: :confused:

Would you like to see the photos?

:jester:

[macca_779]

just to put in my 2 cents worth, in my sv6 i have 216 rwhp with a cai, pacemaker headers and tune.

So.... 161rwkw. :1peek:

This thread is hilarious. Can I enter my lawn mower.

[Steve-LS2]

Would you like to see the photos?

:jester:

no thanks!

I bet they would be extreme close ups though!! :lmao:

....

It is Nick Riewoldt is it?? :rofl:

[Steve-LS2]

So.... 161rwkw. :1peek:

This thread is hilarious. Can I enter my lawn mower.

Does it have a CAI and full exhaust?? :jester:

[csv rulz]

My nan's electric scooter will smoke the lot of you!:flip2:

[macca_779]

Does it have a CAI and full exhaust?? :jester:

Couldn't find a pod filter big enough to fit over the whole engine cowl but I'm running the exhaust dumped 1" after the motor. Its hectic.

[csv rulz]

Couldn't find a pod filter big enough to fit over the whole engine cowl but I'm running the exhaust dumped 1" after the motor. Its hectic.

How do you control all the wheel spin, and wheel stands??? :bow:

[whitels1ss]

So.... 161rwkw. :1peek:

This thread is hilarious. Can I enter my lawn mower.
Zorro's mower is faster than yours! :jester:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=144395&highlight=ZORRO+MOWER

[whitels1ss]

The big race...:)
YouTube - JFM Mobility Scooter Racing

[macca_779]

Zorro's mower is faster than yours! :jester:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=144395&highlight=ZORRO+MOWER

That's it. I'm telling my Dad.

[Bingo BIlly]

Those style responses wont resolve my dilemma, he still harps on about how his xr6 disembarks all holden 6s and now he has graduated to saying ls1s are on his hit list

[whitels1ss]

That's it. I'm telling my Dad.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[whitels1ss]

Those style responses wont resolve my dilemma, he still harps on about how his xr6 disembarks all holden 6s and now he has graduated to saying ls1s are on his hit list


Awe, that's so sad! :bawl::bawl::bawl:

[whitels1ss]

Don't worry about it.

[SM1DY]

:train:

This thread

[SLugg]

probably time to stop feeding this troll , who firkin cares if he thinks his falcon is faster than whatever , get youself a life BB and stop sweating the little shi.t

:soap:

[VYBerlinaV8]

Those style responses wont resolve my dilemma, he still harps on about how his xr6 disembarks all holden 6s and now he has graduated to saying ls1s are on his hit list

Mate, the point we're all trying to make is that there are plenty of people in this world who shoot their mouths off. Don't worry about it, it really doesn't matter. Let him think his pissy falcon 6 is awesome, it may be all he has in his life.

[FOON]

BIlly, are you sure you weren't HULK_BA in a previous forum life?

[VXSS346]

Those style responses wont resolve my dilemma, he still harps on about how his xr6 disembarks all holden 6s and now he has graduated to saying ls1s are on his hit list

And you're still bothered by it. :lmao:

:limpy:

[NeishaVESS]

I have a real issue for you BB, during the week i drive a 1.6L pulsar 5 speed manual, now this little beauty keeps up with vt v6's how it is.

My question is, if i fit the JDM high ratio gearset to the box will it break my driveshfts? and will it be a traffic light warrior?

Because I need a traffic light warrior and you seem to be the expert on traffic light warriors.

[fishla]

I have a real issue for you BB, during the week i drive a 1.6L pulsar 5 speed manual, now this little beauty keeps up with vt v6's how it is.

My question is, if i fit the JDM high ratio gearset to the box will it break my driveshfts? and will it be a traffic light warrior?

Because I need a traffic light warrior and you seem to be the expert on traffic light warriors.

:lmao:
You need naaaaaaaaawws mate.
I wonder if BB has considered NOS?!

I can imagine him doing a purge at the lights :nos: :nos:


:jester::jester:

[MA13TT]

So.... 161rwkw. :1peek:

This thread is hilarious. Can I enter my lawn mower.

hahaha. yea ill put 50 on the lawn mower to win as well. hahaha

[Kuzman89]

whats wrong with 161rwkw? For a daily thats plenty of power.

[planetdavo]

Those style responses wont resolve my dilemma, he still harps on about how his xr6 disembarks all holden 6s and now he has graduated to saying ls1s are on his hit list

Maybe both of you can lose your licences testing these claims, then you can both graduate to whether a repco pushbike can beat a malvern star...

[whitels1ss]

Maybe both of you can lose your licences testing these claims, then you can both graduate to whether a repco pushbike can beat a malvern star...
Yeah...Another great thread idea planetdavo! :goodjob:

[Plenty]

You all must be proud of me, i walked away without offering a retort (against my better judgement) following advice on here

People like that xr6 guy are like ants, you gotta use ant rid (or give them a retort) otherwise they gain momentum and cause a serious infeststion.

WTF? :confused:
:banghead:

CLOSE THIS CRUD NOW!!!!!!

I think we need an age validation upon sign-up on here!

[planetdavo]

For people that think billy must just be misunderstood and that he really has no interest in comparing d!ck lengths with his mate, have a read of a couple of posts in this thread...:eek:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=145200&page=2

[Souljah]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT332darb46S70rs1eEKSHFWKQdvsJWB WGrAgAezPEc2nu3whGVEA

VS

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_ozOuBV_sLWuASoLHsvTh8taW-qa5lQ3RiRhExL73nSSQHKlSZw

[Belzey]

I only read the last few replies and this thread is a big waste of time! Can't be bothered reading the rest of it.


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