View Full Version : $25,000 "brock" EA falcon
ss ute 01
27-01-2011, 07:55 PM
just found this as i was trolling through tradingpost, good luck is all i can say..
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Used-Cars/Small-Medium-Family-Prestige-Cars/AdNumber=T000418093?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=
vxssblown
27-01-2011, 08:05 PM
Thats a joke right?
i think it might be up for sale for a while, build number one?
i didn't think there was such a thing as a brock falcon.
All i can say is you must have rocks in your head if you buy that car.
justin_d
27-01-2011, 08:08 PM
Someone obviously hates someone and has kindly posted their details on the net so they can get yelled plenty of abuse. Brock was only in one Ford in his lifetime, that was the hearse.
HOTSV8
27-01-2011, 08:13 PM
Wrong . Brock did have some brock Falcons . Look it up . Google is your friend .
Not only did he have a line of Falcons with his name on them, he also raced Ford Sierras.
black-ss
27-01-2011, 08:15 PM
Wrong . Brock did have some brock Falcons . Look it up . Google is your friend .
Yep happened after the polarizer debacle, 200 of them from memory
justin_d
27-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Hmm. Just did. Seems I was a little young to remember that. Looks like I'll have a bone to pick with my mate who said he never drove a Ford!. :nutkick:
BLACK 346
27-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Is this the same car?
http://australianmusclecarsales.com.au/muscle/85003
v8dude78
27-01-2011, 08:17 PM
Yes P.B did make some :spew: brock fords.
Why???? because after the fall out from holden, it wasnt like holden was sending him cars anymore :confused: he made a few brock falcons
Also raced a XF AUSCAR at the now extinct thunderdome also raced a ford sierra in the ATC and at bathurst
They were strange times indeed :confused:
Edit
Damn a few of you beat me to it :lol:
HOTSV8
27-01-2011, 08:19 PM
Hmm. Just did. Seems I was a little young to remember that. Looks like I'll have a bone to pick with my mate who said he never drove a Ford!. :nutkick:
Geez . few of us showing our age here :)
vxssblown
27-01-2011, 08:19 PM
Thats all news to me so that car would be worth that kind of money then?
Thats all news to me so that car would be worth that kind of money then?
Debatable, a car is only worth what someone will pay for it. At the end of the day it is still an EA.
v8dude78
27-01-2011, 08:22 PM
Geez . few of us showing our age here :)
Thats all news to me so that car would be worth that kind of money then?
Now i am feeling old :confused: :lol:
planetdavo
27-01-2011, 08:24 PM
Probably still worth more than the Brock Samara by Lada...:eek:
gamevx
27-01-2011, 08:28 PM
Someone obviously hates someone and has kindly posted their details on the net so they can get yelled plenty of abuse. Brock was only in one Ford in his lifetime, that was the hearse.
i'm sure it was a holden hearse!
ssv 427
27-01-2011, 08:36 PM
ea falcons had the worse head gaskets wat a heap of shit lol, no ea falcon is worth that kind of money, maybe he put 1 to many zeros down at the end and meant 2500, i coldnt care whos name is on it, no ea is worth that
ellisjuan
27-01-2011, 08:47 PM
They were strange times indeed :confused:
That's an understatement. Remember the Button plan?
In 1988, we had Fords badged as Nissans, Holdens with Nissan engines, Toyotas badged as Holdens, Holdens badged as Toyotas and Mazdas badged as Fords. Peter Brock driving an EA was just the cream on the cake.
To make matters worse, Ford weren't making a V8 at that time, and so he had to have what I would regard as probably the worst engine ever made in this country, in a car that I would regard as the worst Falcon ever made. No guesses as to why he raced Sierras instead? :1peek:
Did PB ever fit an Energy Polariser to the EA? Or was it so bad that even the spirits couldn't help it?
Arrow420
27-01-2011, 09:05 PM
The VL group A pluspack were the main polarized cars and wore Brocks signature, there were I think out of 500 VL Gpa made only 168 were polarized and recieved the PlusPack package, Holden werent impressed with the whole polarizer idea.
I dont think the EB ever recieved a polarizer, still wouldnt help it if it did, ford should have stopped at the XF.
black-ss
27-01-2011, 09:11 PM
The VL group A pluspack were the main polarized cars and wore Brocks signature, there were I think out of 500 VL Gpa made only 168 were polarized and recieved the PlusPack package, Holden werent impressed with the whole polarizer idea.
I dont think the EB ever recieved a polarizer, still wouldnt help it if it did, ford should have stopped at the XF.
On the vl side of things, i dont think the $20k people ask for the nitro or nitron whatever it was called is worth let alone $25 for one of these
Daynesy
27-01-2011, 09:22 PM
It's a build 1 Brock Falcon, a collectable. Doesn't matter how shit the car is. That's what makes it "expensive".
People buy antique vases for more money than this, should be complaining about them instead.
Arrow420
27-01-2011, 09:22 PM
On the vl side of things, i dont think the $20k people ask for the nitro or nitron whatever it was called is worth let alone $25 for one of these
Your right there, my son bought a good orig Nitron when he first got his licence a couple years back, paid around 5k for it, sold it for 6500 but spent a little on it, it was the non turbo model, so turboes maybe a little more, but a Nitron was no brock or even a HDT, it was a dealers pack with HDT bits on it, kits may have been sent from HDT but brock didnt build them.
Some Eas were built by brock but I agree, wouldnt pay any where near that for one.
v8dude78
27-01-2011, 09:44 PM
In 1988, we had Fords badged as Nissans,
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
The XF ute with Nissan stickers on it
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
VXSS346
27-01-2011, 09:47 PM
It's a build 1 Brock Falcon, a collectable. Doesn't matter how shit the car is. That's what makes it "expensive".
Agreed. :goodjob:
Yes, its just an EA Falcon.
A GTHO phase III is just an XY, a Walkinshaw is just a (fully sik) VL. Get my point?
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VXSS346
27-01-2011, 09:49 PM
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
The XF ute with Nissan stickers on it
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
And what about the Toyota Lexcen? I guess that's not funny. :lmao:
black-ss
27-01-2011, 10:03 PM
Agreed. :goodjob:
Yes, its just an EA Falcon.
A GTHO phase III is just an XY, a Walkinshaw is just a (fully sik) VL. Get my point?
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Get your point, but not even the same ballpark as the two comparisons you made...
Daynesy
27-01-2011, 10:11 PM
Get your point, but not even the same ballpark as the two comparisons you made...
Hence the lower price ;)
v8dude78
27-01-2011, 10:16 PM
And what about the Toyota Lexcen? I guess that's not funny. :lmao:
And the Toyota camry rebadged as the Holden Apollo :spew::spew::spew:
black-ss
27-01-2011, 10:18 PM
Hence the lower price ;)
You reckon $25 is a low price for it? An EA in any form is a piece of junk, the same can't be said about an XY
Daynesy
27-01-2011, 10:24 PM
You reckon $25 is a low price for it? An EA in any form is a piece of junk, the same can't be said about an XY
I've already explained why it has that price tag as an asking price.
The same can't be said for an XY... no shit... but how much will a GTHO cost these days? Then compare that to this LIMITED build of the EA (shit or not).
It's not that hard, just think about it...
black-ss
27-01-2011, 10:27 PM
I've already explained why it has that price tag as an asking price.
The same can't be said for an XY... no shit... but how much will a GTHO cost these days? Then compare that to this LIMITED build of the EA (shit or not).
It's not that hard, just think about it...
Calm down mate, fark!
ice57l
27-01-2011, 11:20 PM
i remember when i traded in my stock v8 vk for what my mum and dad call a green heap of junk, back then they were worth nothing and all i knew was it layed lines , it ended up being a matching numbers ht 350 monaro.. all restored .. i kept it and drove it everywhere, till 12 years later the price went though the roof and you couldnt leave it anywhere. couldnt put fuel in it with out someone wanting a pic of it . i sold it for a heap so all i can say is becareful what you over look ....
VY18s
27-01-2011, 11:22 PM
Agreed. :goodjob:
Yes, its just an EA Falcon.
A GTHO phase III is just an XY, a Walkinshaw is just a (fully sik) VL. Get my point?
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Not a really good comparison. The GTHO, and Walkinshaw have racing heritage, and anyone who's a diehard Holden, or Ford fan knows how much impact they had on their respective brands.
GTHO: Fastest 4 car in the world for a number of years, and probably the most recognizable Australian muscle car ever made.
Walkinshaw: First HSV ever made. Gave HRT their first Bathurst win in the ATCC.
The Brock EA is really just that. An EA Falcon with Brock's name on it. Not even Brock could polish a turd unfortunately.
VXSS346
28-01-2011, 06:57 AM
Not a really good comparison. The GTHO, and Walkinshaw have racing heritage, and anyone who's a diehard Holden, or Ford fan knows how much impact they had on their respective brands.
GTHO: Fastest 4 car in the world for a number of years, and probably the most recognizable Australian muscle car ever made.
Walkinshaw: First HSV ever made. Gave HRT their first Bathurst win in the ATCC.
The Brock EA is really just that. An EA Falcon with Brock's name on it. Not even Brock could polish a turd unfortunately.
I totally agree, and that's probably why the asking price is only $25k and not 100k-400k. :yup:
Its only the asking price anyway, the actual selling price will tell the real story.
macca33
28-01-2011, 07:08 AM
Probably still worth more than the Brock Samara by Lada...:eek:
Hahaha - it go very good Comrade!!!
i'm sure it was a holden hearse!
Yes it was a Holden hearse. And I doubt a Brock EA would be worth much. Apart from the fact that most Brock fans are full-on Holden fans, the EA is far from the best Falcon. And the Brock EA was a 6 cylinder engine - WITHOUT a turbo!
I've always been a bit disappointed that Brock did not modify and continue his business along the lines of the CSV and Walkinshaw model. I suspect he could have done very well modifying cars after customers had taken delivery.
PAH
Pickles
28-01-2011, 07:18 AM
Yes, PB did make a few Falcons..he formed a company called Austech which operated from premises in Newlands Rd Coburg. Went there many times. Peter was, in those days, operating with very few resources, & was very hands on....he was invariably to be found in the factory with his white dustcoat on doing "something".....he loved trying out new stuff...nothing phased him....that's why he had a go at the EA. He also did a few Nissan Patrols.
To even try to do annything with an EA Falcon, required a very hopeful person indeed, but Brock did a half reasonable job. Exhaust, suspension, wheels, & a few bits of PB's "magic" made the car OK....it got very favourable reviews in the press at the time.
He was racing Sierras at the time & had the very latest Louisville as his prime mover to tow the transporter. Peter also designed his own "Aero" kit for the Louisville, which was almost identical to those seen on trucks several years later!
PB was indeed a man of many parts.
But, $25K for that EA, no way!
Cheers, Pickles.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that Brock also raced a BMW for a while (not in that waste of space supertouring), but back when he split with holden. I've got a photo from lakeside of his Mobil BMW sporting the 05 number on the side.
I seem to recall after he left Holden, he drove the BMW for a while (which was hopeless) and eventually changed over to the Cosworth.
blackbettyhsv
28-01-2011, 07:48 AM
Someone obviously hates someone and has kindly posted their details on the net so they can get yelled plenty of abuse. Brock was only in one Ford in his lifetime, that was the hearse.
your wrong there my mate at work has a brock falcon build #1 I might have to ask him what year as this blokes is #1 also
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that Brock also raced a BMW for a while (not in that waste of space supertouring), but back when he split with holden. I've got a photo from lakeside of his Mobil BMW sporting the 05 number on the side.
I seem to recall after he left Holden, he drove the BMW for a while (which was hopeless) and eventually changed over to the Cosworth.
Yes C4B - I've got VHS tape of him racing In an Adelaide support race. He absolutely rung the neck of the little BMW! It was a big ask for it to compete against V8 Commodores and turbo Sierras but Brocky gave it a good go.
And yes. Super Tourers were a waste of space. Almost as BORING as V8 Supercars. Bring back the days when racing Holdens and Fords really were Holdens and Fords. Not Auscar shells wrapped in Falcodore panels. Ask yourself this question: How did Lowndsy turn his Falcon into a Commodore?
PAH
LooneyR8
28-01-2011, 08:24 AM
And the Toyota camry rebadged as the Holden Apollo :spew::spew::spew:
Thats my fault mate....I used to be a spot welder at Toyota in Danfenong making those atrocious abominations of a vehicle....I apologise profusly....
WhiteLion
28-01-2011, 08:30 AM
ea falcons had the worse head gaskets wat a heap of shit lol, no ea falcon is worth that kind of money, maybe he put 1 to many zeros down at the end and meant 2500, i coldnt care whos name is on it, no ea is worth that
...and that's why Kent Youlden won the 1990 Australian Production Car Chamionship in one :goodjob:
ti0350
28-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Will be interesting to see how much the falcon goes for normal they sell for around half that price..
v8dude78
28-01-2011, 10:20 AM
Thats my fault mate....I used to be a spot welder at Toyota in Danfenong making those atrocious abominations of a vehicle....I apologise profusly....
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
thats alright i remember going for a tour of Nissan when they were making the pintara into the Ford corsair :spew::spew:
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
thats alright i remember going for a tour of Nissan when they were making the pintara into the Ford corsair :spew::spew:
Yes but the Skyline Silhoutte wasn't a half bad car. Remember the punch-up between Holden and Nissan? Correcy me here as I am relying on memory. If my memory is correct, Holden and Nissan trod on each other's toes over the sahed 3.0L Nissan egine. Nissan launched an advert something along the lines of: Come and drive the car that our 3.0L engine was realy designed for. It's a shame that Nissan didn't fit their turbo to the Sulgouette engine. The VL with the Nissan turbo was a gem and I'd far prefer a Nissan turbo powered VL to a VN with the BOC engine. To Holden's credit, they smoothed out the BOC engine in time for the VS. A VS 3.8 had some grunt. I drove a VS company car to Tamorth and back. An unfair comparison I know. Co cars rev an extra 1000 rpm and bounce over kerbs without any worries. They're a bit like renta-cars aren't they?
PAH
VX BY DESIGN
28-01-2011, 02:29 PM
Co cars rev an extra 1000 rpm and bounce over kerbs without any worries. They're a bit like renta-cars aren't they?
PAH
:rofl: bit like speed bumps that turn into launching ramps...
Tyre biter
28-01-2011, 03:08 PM
Is this the same car?
http://australianmusclecarsales.com.au/muscle/85003
Seems to be - same Rego and same Build No.
The only thing different is the price: $24,950 on Trading Post and $14,990 on AMC!
Cheers, TB
v8dude78
28-01-2011, 03:15 PM
Yes but the Skyline Silhoutte wasn't a half bad car.
I meant the front wheel drive version 90/91 models :doh: :jester:
Bingo BIlly
28-01-2011, 04:36 PM
I propose we have our own little auction on here to determine what its worth?
Only bid if you would actually buy it at that price
I say the highest bidder should pitch the offer at him
Ill pay $1500 for it, ea with 220,000km in reasonable nick, ill pay it, give it to my nephew for christmas
ellisjuan
28-01-2011, 06:55 PM
...and that's why Kent Youlden won the 1990 Australian Production Car Chamionship in one :goodjob:
Who? Won the what?
Never heard of either... :confused:
Bingo BIlly
29-01-2011, 05:06 PM
Am i the best bid at $1500?
Spoolin
29-01-2011, 05:09 PM
Why does just about every degrading thread on this forum start with; Ford, the cost of them and a bunch of imbiciles with tiny penis' trying to prove themselves right... Sheesh, some people should grow up and 'engage brain' before making stupid simple mistakes like 'Brock never drove a Ford'
:goodjob:
TAKEITEZ
29-01-2011, 05:48 PM
there was a red one of these things for sale down here (TAS) for $7500 i think...... it was tidy as, under 100,000km... and it sat on the side of the road for months!!!
don't know the build number... and i don't know if it sold either...
Bingo BIlly
29-01-2011, 06:36 PM
At the end of the day its a high km ea with a cat back and a set of springs. When we deduct the cost of original exhaust and origimal springs we must conclude its worth no more than any other ea
I dont think the person who started the thread has a problem with "engage brain" as sploolin suggests.. Its people who think they can command $25k for a ea.
defective
30-01-2011, 09:16 AM
theres a certain brock ea on a couple of ford forums with well in excess of 200 rwkw n/a, and has run 12.89 @ 109. so some have been 'improved' somewhat...
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Bingo BIlly
30-01-2011, 09:30 AM
theres a certain brock ea on a couple of ford forums with well in excess of 200 rwkw n/a, and has run 12.89 @ 109. so some have been 'improved' somewhat...
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Its hardly a brock ea anymore if 95% of parts have been replaced
your wrong there my mate at work has a brock falcon build #1 I might have to ask him what year as this blokes is #1 also
maybe they were all build #1 to help resale value:eyes:
Bingo BIlly
30-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Wha ever happened to the el falcon predator?
It was a 6 cylinder, supercharged and on lpg? Apparently 230 fwkw at massive torque, 0-100 in mid 6s and was supposed to go on sale. Big magazine article but never saw it?
That would be better than the ea brock lol
HEKYEH
30-01-2011, 10:49 AM
I propose we have our own little auction on here to determine what its worth?
Only bid if you would actually buy it at that price
I say the highest bidder should pitch the offer at him
Ill pay $1500 for it, ea with 220,000km in reasonable nick, ill pay it, give it to my nephew for christmas
Ah yeah....really good idea....I see it's taken off. :goodjob:
heavyduty1340
30-01-2011, 10:59 AM
I wouldnt waste my time putting my hand in my pocket to pay for one ofthose junk heaps - after driving one for a work car for a while, you will never get me back in one
Best thing to happen was vandals wrote it off for me while parked one night lol
defective
30-01-2011, 11:17 AM
Its hardly a brock ea anymore if 95% of parts have been replaced
as far as i know not much more than the motor has been replaced, still has the brock specific body kit wheels etc etc
Bingo BIlly
30-01-2011, 06:00 PM
Oh just the motor.
Dont sv6 owners say that? "the ss guys only have a different motor" the fools
HEKYEH
30-01-2011, 06:08 PM
Oh just the motor.
Dont sv6 owners say that? "the ss guys only have a different motor" the fools
It depends on whether they are traffic light warriors with upgraded diff gears or not....
justin_d
30-01-2011, 06:12 PM
Why does just about every degrading thread on this forum start with; Ford, the cost of them and a bunch of imbiciles with tiny penis' trying to prove themselves right... Sheesh, some people should grow up and 'engage brain' before making stupid simple mistakes like 'Brock never drove a Ford'
:goodjob:
I assume this was directed at me as I did make the disparaging remark regarding Brock and Ford. As was pointed out to me I was wrong and Brock did drive and release a Ford with his name on it. I happily admitted I was wrong and learnt something new for the day. One thing that does piss me off though is tarnishing everyone on this forum with the same brush of degrading a Ford. There are certainly people here with red blood and only see red however there are heaps of people who don't mind or even own a Ford. I like cars. I happen to like Holdens more than Fords. I drive a Holden. Would I take a FG GT over a VE GTS? Yes because (IMO) I think (in certain colours) they look nicer and go harder (only in red). If a car is good or presents a better BFYB option than another, I'd probably go for it. I'm sorry I'm too young at 25 to remember Brock driving or releasing a Ford. :goodjob:
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