Stolen car

[spazzz]

hey people, im new to this forum, but my brothers car got stolen in canberra last night it's Holden VE Commodore Sportwagon (black) with custom 22inch rims, sports muffler and heavely tinted windows....

im not sure im even in the right place to ack but i thought i would try.

if anyone could help that would be great!

thanks

[XLR8 V8]

Pics and/or a rego would help. Black sportswagon with tint on 22's doesn't really give people a lot to work with.

[spazzz]

sorry about that :)

umm not sure how to add an image but the rego number is YFX 97A

actually i cant add a photo yet because im to new to the froum :(

[CunningStunter]

Which side of town mate? I'll keep an eye out.......

[spazzz]

well it was seen triving towards tuggeranong last night at about 11:30, he had his work trailer on there too, but thankfully that was found in crace this morning.

thanks for that buddy. can i send you a photo of it too.. unfortunatly i cant post it up

[VX2VESS]

how did they take it, keys left in it?

always good to know what to avoid.

[spazzz]

they apparently smashed the drivers side window and hot wired it...:bawl:

[VX2VESS]

they apparently smashed the drivers side window and hot wired it...:bawl:

interesting, didn't think you could with the Transponder keys they use, no code no engine run.

That why they resort to stealing your keys, or chucking you out at lights these days I thought.

but maybe they have worked out a hot wire method now, to bad the guys doing engine conversions have to get the pcm reprogrammed, maybe they could use the method instead.

[daskip]

interesting, didn't think you could with the Transponder keys they use, no code no engine run.

That why they resort to stealing your keys, or chucking you out at lights these days I thought.

but maybe they have worked out a hot wire method now, to bad the guys doing engine conversions have to get the pcm reprogrammed, maybe they could use the method instead.

tuning software + spare bcm/keys + turn off VATS

would make for easy pickings id say?

[spazzz]

hahaha i honestly only understood about half for what you just wrote lol

engine conversions?

pcm reprogrammed?

my minds a blank :)

[spazzz]

tuning software + spare bcm/keys + turn off VATS


oh if only i knew what this all means :doh:

[daskip]

bcm = body control module

bcm generally handles the codes for the keys etc

have a spare bcm with keys that match then im assuming you could plug this in and turn off the anti-theft stuff in the ecu and start the car?

people with more knowledge tell me if im wrong

[VX2VESS]

bcm = body control module

bcm generally handles the codes for the keys etc

have a spare bcm with keys that match then im assuming you could plug this in and turn off the anti-theft stuff in the ecu and start the car?

people with more knowledge tell me if im wrong

that would all take some time to do plug in a new BCM etc... they prefer 5 secs don't they lol...

Tow it away...

anyway hope it turns up.....was just interesting if they have a quick hotwire method now or not

[daskip]

that would all take some time to do plug in a new BCM etc... they prefer 5 secs don't they lol...

Tow it away...

anyway hope it turns up.....was just interesting if they have a quick hotwire method now or not

but he said that it was seen driving down the road later that night?

hope it turns up in good condition and the scum get shot

[spazzz]

yeah well im only getting all this infor from him...

still no luck yet but i hope that they just dont torch it... unfortunatly there has been quite a few cars in canberra being stole and then burnt up:soap:

[commodorenut]

bcm = body control module

bcm generally handles the codes for the keys etc

have a spare bcm with keys that match then im assuming you could plug this in and turn off the anti-theft stuff in the ecu and start the car?

people with more knowledge tell me if im wrong

After the experience I've had with a faulty key transponder/immobiliser - AKA a TDM in Holden speak, I've learnt quite a bit about the anti-theft capability that the VE has, and how hard it is to get around.

The TDM (keyreader & immobiliser module under the ignition barrell) cannot be re-coded. Once a new one has a code uploaded that's it. It feeds the BCM, and in turn the PCM.

So you're up for a new TDM & matching keys, and the BCM would still need to be linked to the TDM , as well as the PCM, and all of it would have to handshake via the canbus for it to work. You probably need to have it hooked up to Holden's TIS system to even get it all to work.

I'd be favouring the tow truck at this point......


OR - a much easier method for those with the right connections, which became well known in the media after the ring operating out of a Sydney dealer's service centre were busted, is to copy a key & code a new one to the car. Then track it down later (address in the service files) and steal it with the key.

This was much easier to do covertly in VT-VZ, as you could add new keys without erasing old ones (and thus not raising suspicion because all the existing keys work). I'm led to believe that the VE requires all desired keys to be present when programming a new key - hence any that aren't will be dropped from the system, and no longer work. Of course this won't stop anyone doing it, but they will be caught out sooner, as your spare keys that stayed home at the last service will suddenly no longer work.

[VX2VESS]

that what i thought, so they got the key, key was in it or it was towed away.

check all the panel shops out.

[spazzz]

yeah like i said boys im just going on what my brother has told me, from what i can make out from your replys, his car isnt something that you can steal in 2 especially if you dont have the keys.... i think my dumb ass bro droped his keys outside and didnt even notice

[CunningStunter]

well it was seen triving towards tuggeranong last night at about 11:30, he had his work trailer on there too, but thankfully that was found in crace this morning.

thanks for that buddy. can i send you a photo of it too.. unfortunatly i cant post it up

Sure thing - pm me for my email addy

[spazzz]

hey CunningStunter the forum isnt letting me pm you WTF

[thekidscar]

hey CunningStunter the forum isnt letting me pm you WTF

cant pm certain people without enough posts mate,

i have the same issue.

James

[spazzz]

yeah ive noticed that :(

[zorro]

not saying this is what happened but a mate of mine in insurance reckons a lot of new car thefts are from the thieves getting lucky and finding the spare key in the car, generally with the drivers handbook or centre console.

hope the car shows up mate

[spazzz]

yeah well knowing my bro's luck, thats most likely what has happened


anyone see it around??