January 2011 VFACTS Figures.

[The-V8-Power]

The Australian automotive industry has made a slow start to 2011, suffering from reduced sales in a disaster-riddled Queensland. The story of the month was without doubt the performance of the traditional local heroes – Commodore and Falcon – who were overwhelmed by a raft of smaller Asian imports.

Top 10 sales by model:

Toyota Corolla – 4045
Mazda3 – 3605
Holden Commodore – 2645
Toyota HiLux – 2491
Hyundai Getz – 2167
Holden Cruze – 2060
Nissan Navara – 1804
Toyota Yaris – 1793
Subaru Impreza – 1765
Hyundai i30 – 1675
Top 10 sales by marque:

Toyota – 14,817
Holden – 8385
Mazda – 7200
Ford – 6413
Hyundai – 6410
Nissan – 4876
Mitsubishi – 4537
Subaru – 3531
Volkswagen – 2408
Honda – 2227
Interesting to see the Commodore getting overtaken by both the Corolla and 3. I guess Holden is lucky that the Cruze is selling reasonably okay to make up for lost sales such as seen in this month. The Falcon and Camry out of the top 10 for the first time in years I would have thought. Although, January is normally the slowest month for all sectors.

Link here: http://www.caradvice.com.au/102391/january-2011-vfacts-slow-start-after-queensland-floods/

[Marco]

Commodore is the only Australian made car in the Top 10! Remarkable...

[Steve-LS2]

Commodore is the only Australian made car in the Top 10! Remarkable...

Maybe if Commodores were made in Taiwan they would be cheaper and Holden would sell more??

Seriously, they import probably 60% or more of the components and have to pay import duties on them or buy from Australian companies that import them.

Then they pay Aussie workers about 15 times more than overseas.

It's little wonder Corollas and Mazda 3's are cheaper and still generating good profits.

AND NO I'M NOT ADVOCATING SENDING JOBS OFFSHORE but we may see the demise of Holden and Ford locally from the car market altogether if they keep doing what they're doing. Which would be a huge pity.

[peter b]

Corrollas and the Mazda 3 aren't really overly cheap in the small car market.
People buy them from what I have come across due to their reliability and being quite economical. Good to see through everything this year the commodore is the best selling car in it's market of large car where is the ford falcon and toyota camry. Kinda shows bang for buck there I would think.

[nikola]

Maybe if Commodores were made in Taiwan they would be cheaper and Holden would sell more??

AND NO I'M NOT ADVOCATING SENDING JOBS OFFSHORE but we may see the demise of Holden and Ford locally from the car market altogether if they keep doing what they're doing. Which would be a huge pity.

If they were to start building Commodores and Falcons in Asia, what's the point of having those cars at all anyway?

[zorro]

Corrollas and the Mazda 3 aren't really overly cheap in the small car market.
People buy them from what I have come across due to their reliability and being quite economical. Good to see through everything this year the commodore is the best selling car in it's market of large car where is the ford falcon and toyota camry. Kinda shows bang for buck there I would think.

I have a mazda 3 back up in qld and that thing aint economical

[Peter B - CV8]

Maybe it's just the heat in Sydney - but I can't make sense of the Toyota figures ?????

Total no of sales for the month "by marque" = 14,817
By model ;
- Corolla = 4,045
- Hilux = 2,491
- Yaris = 1,793
So that leaves another 6,488 sales somewhere ............Have you overlooked Camry sales ????? Surely 4wd & commercial sales aren't that good.

[peter b]

I have a mazda 3 back up in qld and that thing aint economical

Wow really well that was their aim so if they aint the economincal then maybe the main selling point would be how they drive I would guess. If someone had of asked me I would have sworn they wouldn't be that bad on fuel but a lot of things to factor in with fuel consumption so I guess that outlines a mistake in my comment and for which I apologise

[LSavvy]

Maybe it's just the heat in Sydney - but I can't make sense of the Toyota figures ?????

Total no of sales for the month "by marque" = 14,817
By model ;
- Corolla = 4,045
- Hilux = 2,491
- Yaris = 1,793
So that leaves another 6,488 sales somewhere ............Have you overlooked Camry sales ????? Surely 4wd & commercial sales aren't that good.

Could it be because there are Camrys, Hybrid Camrys and Aurions as different models? I don't know!

[Spoolin]

Regardless of who or what is in the top ten, is GMH still running in the red?

[Evman]

Commodore is the only Australian made car in the Top 10! Remarkable...

I'd say lucky


Seriously, they import probably 60% or more of the components and have to pay import duties on them or buy from Australian companies that import them.

I may well have changed now but when the VE was released it still had a majority home-made share. It was almost 50-50 Australian made/imported but definitely more Oz made than imported.

[Evman]

Regardless of who or what is in the top ten, is GMH still running in the red?

Profit (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/holden-returns-to-profit-20101210-18sw8.html)

[planetdavo]

January is ALWAYS a sh!t month for the big local cars. The fleet buyers have been on holidays, so the month is made up of more small car buying private buyers than usual.

[Spoolin]

I'd say lucky
I may well have changed now but when the VE was released it still had a majority home-made share. It was almost 50-50 Australian made/imported but definitely more Oz made than imported.

If I remember correctly even at release date the VE was and still is built from 67% imported parts. I laughed the other day when I saw a Holden box ant work with 'made in Chine' or the like and it was a VE ute tailight.

[Evman]

Maybe as far as parts "not made by Holden themselves" or something obscure like that.

According to an article in About the House (Australian Parliamentary magazine) the VZ was 73% local content, the VE 56%. As I said, still majority Australian made.

Edit:
For reference, the FG Falcon is apparently 60% local content.

[Plenty]

If I remember correctly even at release date the VE was and still is built from 67% imported parts. I laughed the other day when I saw a Holden box ant work with 'made in Chine' or the like and it was a VE ute tailight.

Maybe that's why when you try to make a deal with Holden to buy a Commodore they are willing, unlike Ford who don't want to sell you a car unless you pay retail pricing.

Outsourcing is done to reduce costs, fact is we want the big bucks at work but don't want to pay the extra for the end product.

I doubt there would be many cars in the world that could claim 100% made in country of origin.

[gmh308]

Maybe it's just the heat in Sydney - but I can't make sense of the Toyota figures ?????

Total no of sales for the month "by marque" = 14,817
By model ;
- Corolla = 4,045
- Hilux = 2,491
- Yaris = 1,793
So that leaves another 6,488 sales somewhere ............Have you overlooked Camry sales ????? Surely 4wd & commercial sales aren't that good.

Yes the ~6500 number includes all their truck/commercial sales. If they didnt dominate that market with stacks of global models, the numbers would be different/more real.

[Skedy]

personally i think we all should be buying locally built cars. ford, holden or toyota

One thing about patriotism in the states most will buy american because there country needs them to buy american to keep people employed

[Irish]

I doubt there would be many cars in the world that could claim 100% made in country of origin.

Probably some of the asian marques would be 100% made at home. Why import when you are the cheapest?

[Irish]

Profit (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/holden-returns-to-profit-20101210-18sw8.html)

Just because they are profitable now does not mean they will turn a profit for the '10/11 finacial year.

[Evman]

Just because they are profitable now does not mean they will turn a profit for the '10/11 finacial year.

Wow. How did you manage to get "Holden will make a profit in the 2010/2011 financial year" from my link?

[Irish]

Wow. How did you manage to get "Holden will make a profit in the 2010/2011 financial year" from my link?

Well no other profits are real. We operate on the finacial year in Australia for both business and personal tax. This is when a corporations' books can be audited by independant sources. Until you post a finacial year profit, you haven't made a profit.

[Evman]

Well no other profits are real. We operate on the finacial year in Australia for both business and personal tax. This is when a corporations' books can be audited by independant sources. Until you post a finacial year profit, you haven't made a profit.

On that reasoning until you post a financial year loss, you haven't made a loss. At least I provided something constructive :goodjob:

[planetdavo]

Irish, Irish...:nono:

[gmh308]

Well no other profits are real. We operate on the finacial year in Australia for both business and personal tax. This is when a corporations' books can be audited by independant sources. Until you post a finacial year profit, you haven't made a profit.

Hardly anyone is making money out of building cars at present anyways. And Holden are pretty cautious about how much profit they post. Always have been. :)

[VH-COM]

Worst ever January for falcon !
From Goauto.com.au

The Victorian-built Falcon – whose future as a locally-made car is now being debated in Ford boardrooms – crashed from 2318 sales in January 2010 to 1157 units last month.

According to GoAuto records, the previous worst month for Falcon sedan and wagon was January 2008, when the Blue Oval shipped just 1252 Falcon passenger vehicles at the height of the global financial crisis.

[Ghia351]

Worst ever January for falcon !
From Goauto.com.au

The Victorian-built Falcon – whose future as a locally-made car is now being debated in Ford boardrooms – crashed from 2318 sales in January 2010 to 1157 units last month.

According to GoAuto records, the previous worst month for Falcon sedan and wagon was January 2008, when the Blue Oval shipped just 1252 Falcon passenger vehicles at the height of the global financial crisis.You cannot buy a wagon (anymore) you cannot buy an e-gas and you cannot buy an XR8 sedan or ute so sales were always going to be crappola. Egas might be even more delayed while the change in XR8 between FPV and Ford was "marvellous"..not.

[Marco]

According to GoAuto records, the previous worst month for Falcon sedan and wagon was January 2008, when the Blue Oval shipped just 1252 Falcon passenger vehicles at the height of the global financial crisis.

January 2008 hey...so what, nine months before the collapse of Lehmann Brothers and the bailout of a whole stack of banks. Bloody journos.

[Irish]

On that reasoning until you post a financial year loss, you haven't made a loss. At least I provided something constructive :goodjob:

Ahh but your original post was in reply to a post about the 5 consecutive finacial years losses by GMH.

[Evman]

Aah but the question I was replying to was about if Holden was making a profit or not. If you want to get specific to the Nth degree then the question never said anything about financial years. Just profit. I supplied said info. If anyone was going to be dumb enough to ask if Holden was going to make a profit this financial year then the best response is "the financial year isn't over and how the hell are we supposed to know?"