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daskip
16-03-2011, 12:14 PM
just wanted to find out from people who work in the industry

if a b pillar has been pushed in anywhere from 20mm to 40mm would you class this as a write off or repairable with the right tools?

reason i ask is that mrs car we just picked up the bloke at the panel shop said he pushed the b pillar back out with a power press and as far as i know any damage to the pillar would be a write off?

hsv-direct
16-03-2011, 12:21 PM
Not %100 sure as to repairing the b pillar but I know that they can still be repairing with it is damaged as we recently had repaired. However they cut the old pillar out & put in an un-damaged one as its a better finish instead of repairing.

daskip
16-03-2011, 12:23 PM
Not %100 sure as to repairing the b pillar but I know that they can still be repairing with it is damaged as we recently had repaired. However they cut the old pillar out & put in an un-damaged one as its a better finish instead of repairing.

they pushed the b pillar out 20-30mm with a power press round bottom/mid area

furious i am

Dan_
16-03-2011, 12:44 PM
Surely it would now be weaker having being bent twice?

duke5700
16-03-2011, 12:53 PM
Don't they usually cut them out and weld in a new one?

daskip
16-03-2011, 01:19 PM
Don't they usually cut them out and weld in a new one?

apparently it was only 6mm after i called them back to have a go

he showed me alot more than 6mm when i picked up the car

duke5700
16-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Hmmmmmm... not being a guru paint and panel man can't really comment further. There will be someone on here that can clarify.

the big fist
16-03-2011, 02:32 PM
Talk to your licensing board in your state.
Best idea.

Jamesls1
10-04-2011, 08:55 PM
yes i would of thought they would replace the damaged pillar

Spoolin
10-04-2011, 09:12 PM
6mm is nothing, even 20mm isn't a great deal with the correct tools.
If you are concerned about the method of repair you should be contacting the insurance company, they are the ones ultimately responsible for the method of repair used.
If the assessor determined a new pillar was required they would have done so, obviously an assessor and repairer are far more qualified to determine this than yourself.
BTW, regardless of where the damage is a vehicle is generally written off because the value of the repairs exceed the value of the vehicle not unless water or theft is involved.

boggers007
10-04-2011, 09:14 PM
My old man had his be pillar totally ****ed up by someone trying to break into his car with a crowbar and the body shop just chopped it off and welded up a new one they said they dont even bother messing around with trying to put them back into shape as it usually doesnt work.

BECAUZ
11-04-2011, 09:27 AM
6mm is nothing, even 20mm isn't a great deal with the correct tools.
If you are concerned about the method of repair you should be contacting the insurance company, they are the ones ultimately responsible for the method of repair used.
If the assessor determined a new pillar was required they would have done so, obviously an assessor and repairer are far more qualified to determine this than yourself.


Sorry must disagree. Most assessors kno sweet f*** all. im going through the process now and all i've had to do to get what i want is throw my arms in the air and go above him and cause some chaos.

You need to let them know you aint just some idiot who drives from a to b. push for what you want and make sure you give them plenty of headaches.

From my recent experience assessors are only trying to save money for their own benefit and will stoop to any low for it too.....

Spoolin
11-04-2011, 12:06 PM
Sorry must disagree. Most assessors kno sweet f*** all. im going through the process now and all i've had to do to get what i want is throw my arms in the air and go above him and cause some chaos.

You need to let them know you aint just some idiot who drives from a to b. push for what you want and make sure you give them plenty of headaches.

From my recent experience assessors are only trying to save money for their own benefit and will stoop to any low for it too.....

Not every assessor is an idiot some a quite switched on.
Sure cause headaches, but also be reasonable and don't complain when your premium goes up or they refuse to reinsure you which you have to disclose when you go elsewhere.

If the repair is only minor I would much prefer retaining original panels on the vehicle. Replacing a centre pillar when not required will devalue your vehicle as it will look as though the crash was far worse than what it actualy was.

Gee really? Welcome to busine buddy :rofl:

v8dude78
11-04-2011, 05:50 PM
Yep agree, with the right tools pulling the B pillar out is not a big drama at all



6mm is nothing, even 20mm isn't a great deal with the correct tools.
If you are concerned about the method of repair you should be contacting the insurance company, they are the ones ultimately responsible for the method of repair used.
If the assessor determined a new pillar was required they would have done so, obviously an assessor and repairer are far more qualified to determine this than yourself.
BTW, regardless of where the damage is a vehicle is generally written off because the value of the repairs exceed the value of the vehicle not unless water or theft is involved.

Going by the way you have described it sounds like the person trying to break in made a mess of the outer skin of the B pillar.
In that case yes it is easier and quicker just to replace the outer B pillar rather than trying to dent pull and body fill all the dents and crease's the low life did to it


My old man had his be pillar totally ****ed up by someone trying to break into his car with a crowbar and the body shop just chopped it off and welded up a new one they said they dont even bother messing around with trying to put them back into shape as it usually doesnt work.

hsv-direct
11-04-2011, 06:06 PM
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If the repair is only minor I would much prefer retaining original panels on the vehicle. Replacing a centre pillar when not required will devalue your vehicle as it will look as though the crash was far worse than what it actualy was.


So would you rather have your original pillar bogged up, then completely changed to a perfect one?

A real panel beater can put in a new pillar without leaving a trace, so would not be able to tell any repairs were done.

Spoolin
11-04-2011, 09:29 PM
So would you rather have your original pillar bogged up, then completely changed to a perfect one?

A real panel beater can put in a new pillar without leaving a trace, so would not be able to tell any repairs were done.

And a trained pro can spot anomilies :)

Muncha
11-04-2011, 09:50 PM
Repairable for sure, but without seeing it personally its pretty hard to judge.

Wonky
11-04-2011, 11:41 PM
So would you rather have your original pillar bogged up, then completely changed to a perfect one?

A real panel beater can put in a new pillar without leaving a trace, so would not be able to tell any repairs were done.

Unfortunately for you, having seen the work v8dude78's panel shop does I'll believe his point of view! :yup: I strongly suspect he wasn't talking about "bogging it up"!