Vx Clubsport or Vy ss

[simsy23]

Pretty much tossing up between the vx clubsport or a vy ss, both around simlar pricing... at this stage leaning towards the vy ss, but just scoping out some outsiders oppinions on the two cars, i only want a manual, just wondering about the differences in them i know they both have the ls1 motor, but yer any advice is appreciated :smilesandbanana:

[HSVREDSLED]

I may be biased, but I would stretch to a VY Clubsport. A lot on here love the VX, but I think the VY shape has held its image longer.

[feistl]

The VT/VX interior is the big let down. The newer VY interior is much nicer imo. That said, mechanically the cars are very similar and its just a matter of looks.

You'll be paying a premium for the clubsport in regards to insurance, but other than that their pretty similar cars.

I would be more focused on the condition of the car, whether it has the features you want rather than just looking for a particular model.

Make sure the VX is series II to avoid the rear camber issues (i believe the HSV VXs suffered from this as well).

Not sure of your budget, but is a R8 within your reach?

Cheers

[simsy23]

The VT/VX interior is the big let down. The newer VY interior is much nicer imo. That said, mechanically the cars are very similar and its just a matter of looks.

You'll be paying a premium for the clubsport in regards to insurance, but other than that their pretty similar cars.

I would be more focused on the condition of the car, whether it has the features you want rather than just looking for a particular model.

Make sure the VX is series II to avoid the rear camber issues (i believe the HSV VXs suffered from this as well).

Not sure of your budget, but is a R8 within your reach?

Cheers

Yer if im going for the clubby im going for the R8 for sure, i do agree the Vx interior is really budget and finding one with leather interior will be a mission... i love the vy look but the vx clubby looks awesome aswell.. gueess itl come down to what comes around first haha but i have heard people saying avoid series 1 vx also series 1 vy's?

Edit: What are the major differences between the clubsport and the r8?

[csv rulz]

Personally I love the look of the VX Clubby.
However the interior in the VY is miles nicer, While a similar package it also drives nicer in my opinion - the steering and gearshift have more feel.
If you pick up a VY II SS it will only be 10kw down on the clubby stock anyway (wont matter once you start modding) plus insurance will be miles cheaper on the SS.
While I do love the look of the VX im very happy i choose the VY SS when making the same decision as yourself.
Good luck.

[Mattstavx]

Mate I would go the VY SS. I had a VX Clubsport and it was problem after problem (like most holdens). Go the latest model u can. I would go the VY Series 2 SS any day over the Clubbie.

[Phizzle]

Yer if im going for the clubby im going for the R8 for sure, i do agree the Vx interior is really budget and finding one with leather interior will be a mission... i love the vy look but the vx clubby looks awesome aswell.. gueess itl come down to what comes around first haha but i have heard people saying avoid series 1 vx also series 1 vy's?

Edit: What are the major differences between the clubsport and the r8?

Biggest difference is the brakes. R8 has the awesome big rotors and larger calipers. As always, 'ordinary' Holdens suffer from being well underbraked from the factory.

As both cars are now fairly old, and HSV's usually have been driven a bit less, I'd say the majority would be of similar kms, not really an issue if they've been looked after. I'd be looking for an example which already has mods done that you would do if you were buying a stocker, saves you a bundle in the long term.

Series 2 VY introduced digital A/C. I had a VYII SS, manual, red with black leather, awesome car. Although having seen some VX HSV's recently as I too would like one, I would have to say getting a VXII R8 and getting it to 300rwkw would be fantastic. Hard choice really. VY doesn't look quite as dated but the VX looks the business.....

[The-V8-Power]

It is a hard choice but as some have said it is more what you are after.
Many like the look of the VY but many prefer the smoother shape of the VX which still looks good.

There are plenty of bargains out there though like this one I just found:
2005 VZ SS Commodore (http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=4&R=10331154&keywords=VZ SS&trecs=9&__sid=12F20DC1BDFE&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|1|| pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__N=834 1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 904 4294965857 4294965745 4294933351 4294965744&silo=1011)

It is a VZ with blue leather and also the climate control. Plus you get the stock wheels with it.
Seems like something worth checking out if that is within your price range.

[J_VZUTE]

I would go the VY with the lowest KM's you can find.
Insurance will be cheaper too

[A PSYCHO]

Id go the VX R8, but im biased lol.

i was in a similair position to you when buying a new car, although i was looking at a VZ not VY. As you would guess, i went with the VX R8. Main reasons, i like just being able to say i own a HSV(may not mean sh1t to most, but ive always wanted a HSV of some sort.) Also the simple fact they look better exterior wise, and i probably see at least 15 VY SS to every 1 VX R8.(last bit is no exageration either, ive only seen maybe 4 other VX R8's on the road since buying mine mid last year-ish)

[planetdavo]

It really just comes down to your personal styling preferences and what is in better condition. Both are getting up in the years now, so condition starts becoming far more of a priority. Don't buy a clapped out Clubby just because you want a HSV in the driveway. It's a decision you'd regret rather quickly...

[deano23x]

i have had both, silver vx clubby and black vy ss! both very neat both different! you would have to get a r8 if you went the clubby! vy interiors and exterior much nicer but the shape of the vx clubby is grouse! as others suggested, save a bit harder and get a vy clubby

[***VX*R8***]

I was looking at VX Clubsports and VY SS and chose a VX Clubsport R8.

Difference between R8 and normal clubsport are the R8 has- different wheels, Coulsens (seats), climate control aircon.

I would definitely try and get a VX R8 Series 2 if you can find one in good condition and low k's at a reasonable price. Series 2 has toe adjusters in rear end, slightly different headlights, I 'think' the interior is black instead of grey and I think the badges are shinier(?) lol.

I prefer the VX Clubsport mainly for the looks and rarity, but also the brakes and if an R8 the Coulsens are nice too...

[mickeyVX350]

VX all the way. Looks angry, 3.7s already in manual, great seats, I prefer the interior of the VX... generally they look fat, wide snd aggressive.

[redvxr8clubby]

I was looking at VX Clubsports and VY SS and chose a VX Clubsport R8.

Difference between R8 and normal clubsport are the R8 has- different wheels, Coulsens (seats), climate control aircon.

I would definitely try and get a VX R8 Series 2 if you can find one in good condition and low k's at a reasonable price. Series 2 has toe adjusters in rear end, slightly different headlights, I 'think' the interior is black instead of grey and I think the badges are shinier(?) lol.

I prefer the VX Clubsport mainly for the looks and rarity, but also the brakes and if an R8 the Coulsens are nice too...

I had the same decision nearly 5 years ago, the VX R8 I still have now with 68,000 Km at the time (now only has 89,000 Km), or a '04 VY II SS manual 2 years old with only 16,000 Km would you believe (for $2,000 more). I like a good near new low Km car like most of us, but I wasn't that keen on the all black interior and roof lining of the SS, and I couldn't go past the Coulsens, plus the fact it was HSV. If your getting a VX, an R8 series II is the ideal. But as others have said, the interior of the VY is better looking than the VX. Personally I like the VX Clubby body style. I haven't had any significant problem in 5 years, but then again i've only done 20,000 Km in it, basically it's a Sunday car. Problem now is they are 8 to ten years old now and most of them have about 170,000 Km on them. A VX II would have black interior rather than the grey of the series I. If I was buying one now, i'd prefer the series II.

[ti0350]

I had the same decission 5 yrs ago had the choice of a VX Clubby or my VYIISS, I chose the VY because I thought the interior was a bit better the VX dash reminded me too much of the VS I was getting out of at the time.

[VTV691]

I had the same decission 5 yrs ago had the choice of a VX Clubby or my VYIISS, I chose the VY because I thought the interior was a bit better the VX dash reminded me too much of the VS I was getting out of at the time.

Deffenately... pick VY with most options imo.
Climate, sunroof.. etc. You wont regret it.

[383tunna]

VX all the way... :)

[R8HSVHRT]

Might be biased but VX R8 the go

[SAMCRO]

Hiya fellas! I'm in the same boat, sort of.. but I'm choosing between VE ss/ssv or a VZ HSV 6.0L Opinions welcome, thanks.

Sorry mate I just didn't wanna start another pretty much the same tread.
Back on the topic :)
I never liked the VX tho so between those 2 I'd go for a VY SS, but then again maybe stretch a bit and find a VY Clubby...

[simsy23]

Hiya fellas! I'm in the same boat, sort of.. but I'm choosing between VE ss/ssv or a VZ HSV 6.0L Opinions welcome, thanks.

Sorry mate I just didn't wanna start another pretty much the same tread.
Back on the topic :)
I never liked the VX tho so between those 2 I'd go for a VY SS, but then again maybe stretch a bit and find a VY Clubby...

haha nah all good, yer its a hard decision to make because youl regret it if you make the wrong choice,

judging by peoples oppinions im leaning towards the vy ss II, simply because i use to have a calais and i prefer a more luxury type feel as ive seen the vx and they look kind of budget inside, as for stretching to get the clubsport, il probly spend a little extra working the motor myself,


and for you boz, if i was in your position, id go the VE when they are dropped with the right rims they look amazing, my opinion anyway

[SAMCRO]

good point about spending the extra $$$ on the motor..
I had 2 VE SS already and they are a great car. Now that Im choosing my new V8 I considered a VZ clubby, they look great. Decisions, huh? :)
Keep us posted on how you go.

[RNGTR]

Get a VY Club Sport, great value thesedays.
Ive just traded my HSV Racing Green manual one ( 67ks only ) couldnt get 20k for it anywhere. Whoever buys it will get a fantastic car!

[simsy23]

Get a VY Club Sport, great value thesedays.
Ive just traded my HSV Racing Green manual one ( 67ks only ) couldnt get 20k for it anywhere. Whoever buys it will get a fantastic car!


Yer thats the shitty thing for me living in Perth, car prices here seem to be more expensive then everywhere else in australia lol,

ive actually considered getting one from over east, but transport licencing all that jazz would do my head in, but maybe itd be worth it? vy clubby for 20G would be extremely tempting haha

[simsy23]

good point about spending the extra $$$ on the motor..
I had 2 VE SS already and they are a great car. Now that Im choosing my new V8 I considered a VZ clubby, they look great. Decisions, huh? :)
Keep us posted on how you go.

haha two already? i suppose a vz clubby would be a good change, my mates got a black vz r8, 510HP ATW, hes spent big money on it il grab some pics and post em up, stay posted haha

[OZY67]

I personally would buy the clubby , if you later want to sell it I think the clubby holds there value alittle better ... IM always thinking of the future when buying bikes/cars ... BUT what ever you buy I think you will love :goodjob:

oz

[Ausfitter]

Hey mate i was looking at the same options about a month ago and i decided on the vy. Vx clubbies are nice, but interior does let it down abit. I guess i was lucky with my ss though, i managed to get a manual series 2 with leather and climate control. Those simple things persuaded me lol. Like said in previous posts, what ever you decide, i am sure you will love it

[mickeyVX350]

I still have to push the older interior! I think it is clearer and less fiddly to work (and I have a VZ, a CV8 ser1 and a VT calais)

Also remember that the Clubby will have Climate control and the VY will have standard AC.

The VY SS is based on a pov pack and the Clubby a VX Berlina.

Because of the fit out on the clubby it will cost less money to get going - the exhaust and headers are there (you MAY change them, but you won't necessarily), The diff gears are already changed up and speedo calibrated so in the mod scheme you are already 1-1500K up. Add a tune an an OTR and you have some extra KW for a cheaper price!

[Ausfitter]

You might save yourself money initially with mods on the clubby, but the initial buying price could/would be more than an ss. I am happy as larry i went the ss, but everyone has there own taste.

[csv rulz]

I still have to push the older interior! I think it is clearer and less fiddly to work (and I have a VZ, a CV8 ser1 and a VT calais)

Also remember that the Clubby will have Climate control and the VY will have standard AC.

The VY SS is based on a pov pack and the Clubby a VX Berlina.

Because of the fit out on the clubby it will cost less money to get going - the exhaust and headers are there (you MAY change them, but you won't necessarily), The diff gears are already changed up and speedo calibrated so in the mod scheme you are already 1-1500K up. Add a tune an an OTR and you have some extra KW for a cheaper price!

SS is not just a pov pack (even though mine only has a/c) When new you could option the VY SS with a package that include Leather interior and climate control.
I would of had one with leather and climate but on the day i was travelling to look at it the guy had sold it

[craigc]

I still have to push the older interior! I think it is clearer and less fiddly

For what it's worth, Owning a series 1 cv8, I have to agree with this.

If the clubby is in good shape and has all the things you want, then that'd be what I'd go for.

[VTR8Clubby]

When I was looking about 4 years ago, the options in my price range were VT/VX Clubby or VY SS. After looking around and driving some different cars I quickly decided that the older Clubby was the way to go. I would have bought either model but the VT R8 that I bought was the only one that had been looked after out of all the cars I looked at. The VY SS just seemed like an Executive with a V8.

I've never regretted my decision and plan on keeping the Clubby indefinitely.

[feistl]

Ive got a VX SS, but once you upgrade the interior a bit with things like VY SS Steering wheel/handbrake/gearknob/alloy door handles/3 window cluster/climate control/auto headlights/DVD/GPS/driver and passenger 8 way electric leather seats etc they are a much nicer place to sit.

I guess the question is, which do you prefer the look of? The VY interior is much nicer but personally i dont like the look of them. To me, the VX is the best looking commodore so it was worth getting one and spending the money upgrading the interior. However, if you dont mind either look, then the VY is the better option (in stock form anyway).

[vxss5.7]

i bought a vx clubby as i was lookin for new car tossin up between vy ss n vx clubby... they stand out alot more then vy ss... and insurance isnt that expensive either im payin 1300 year for full comp n im only 21

[Statowh]

Clubby :) HSV I just need one

[redvxr8clubby]

I still have to push the older interior! I think it is clearer and less fiddly to work (and I have a VZ, a CV8 ser1 and a VT calais)

Also remember that the Clubby will have Climate control and the VY will have standard AC.

The VY SS is based on a pov pack and the Clubby a VX Berlina.

Because of the fit out on the clubby it will cost less money to get going - the exhaust and headers are there (you MAY change them, but you won't necessarily), The diff gears are already changed up and speedo calibrated so in the mod scheme you are already 1-1500K up. Add a tune an an OTR and you have some extra KW for a cheaper price!

In a VX Clubby, only the R8 is Berlina based with climate control, you also get bigger brakes than standard Clubby, and not to forget the Coulsen seats. Definitely would suggest an R8 if your going for a VX Clubby. Some VY SS's do have climate also (I think mainly packaged with leather).