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Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 02:49 PM
Thanks to the great Aussie Dollar I'm about to start the process of building a new motor for my ute, as i want to use the car for track work the plan is to make the motor ultra reliable. Though given the amount of abuse factory motors take this one should last a while.

Parts list so far:

Block: Factory Alloy 6lt block resleeved with Darton Dry sleeves along with all the general bullshit that goes along with the machine work etc.
ARP Main & Head stud kit
Pistons: Carillo 4.130 x 1.2" CH - 15cc Dish
Crank: Callies Dragonslayer 3.8" - 24x
Rods: Callies Compstar
Clevite Rod & Main Bearings
Lifters: Morel PBM
Camshaft: Comp Cams 247/251@.050" .624/624 Lift. 114 LSA + 2
Comp Camshaft retaining plate kit (http://www.dragzine.com/news/new-products/new-ls-camshaft-retaining-plate-from-comp-cams/)
Rollmaster Double Row timing chain set
Ported Factory oil pump
LS9 Headgaskets
Mast LS3 4.125 big bore Cyclinder heads
Factory LS7 Rockers (thought about going aftermarket but the price is rediculous & or come in a 1.8 ratio which would require higher lift valve springs = more $$$)
.660" lift dual valvesprings
Improved Racing sump baffle & Mocal remote oil thermostat (for oil cooler)
Pushrods: Not ordered yet, not until engine is assembled and height is checked.
Powerbond 10% overdrive 8PK pulley

I think that is everything for the engine side.

The rest of the build consists of a Harrop HTV2300 with toothed rear belt system & 80lb injectors

The car allready had:
PWR Alloy Radiator - engine
PWR Alloy Radiator - Supercharger
15 Row Oil Cooler for Powersteering
25 row oil cooler for engine oil
NPC Twin plate Clutch
CC Pacemaker 1 7/8 - 3.5" headers
Twin 044, surgetank etc. I will eventually put in an additional 60+ litre tank for next years cannonball run. :) just to so save on fuel stops.

As im still waiting on a few parts to turn up, i have only taken a couple of pictures, along with pinching one out of njc's thread as his is a better quality pic and let's face it once you've seen 1 ARP box, headgaskets etc, you've seen them all. :rofl:

Powerwise im hoping to make 400rwhp :jester:

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/piston1.jpghttp://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/piston2.jpg

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/sleeves.jpghttp://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/pbm.jpg

IJ.
13-05-2011, 03:11 PM
Will be following this one closely :D

peter b
13-05-2011, 03:22 PM
I was under the belief that the LS7 came with rockers in 1.8 ratio from the factory happy to be corrected but that is what I am led to believe.

Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 03:37 PM
I was under the belief that the LS7 came with rockers in 1.8 ratio from the factory happy to be corrected but that is what I am led to believe.


you are correct. but not many companies sell ls7 rockers in a 1.7 ratio and if they do there bulk dollars. like 1300+.

so i have chosen to go with the stock rockers and upgrade the springs.

I may have stuffed up on my 1st post. i'll edit it... no i cant. too late. lol

jaykay
13-05-2011, 03:46 PM
Powerwise im hoping to make 400rwhp :jester:
Ummm are you serious Dave, only 400 ?????? :confused:

Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Ummm are you serious Dave, only 400 ?????? :confused:
yeah, but i didnt say at which point of the rpm curve. :lol:


small tidbit on the camshaft:
Comp Cams Hydraulic Roller 247 / 251 .624/.624 114 LSA, Designed for race applications with a Roots blower. Very strong high rpm power. RPM range from 2700 to 7200. Actual lift wil be closer to 660 though from the 1.8 rockers.

SirNemesis
13-05-2011, 04:19 PM
Subscribed :D

That is ALOT of lift with boost aswell, what springs are you running?

peter b
13-05-2011, 04:49 PM
you are correct. but not many companies sell ls7 rockers in a 1.7 ratio and if they do there bulk dollars. like 1300+.

so i have chosen to go with the stock rockers and upgrade the springs.

I may have stuffed up on my 1st post. i'll edit it... no i cant. too late. lol

Well then that being the case if the cam isn't ground already drop your lobe lift to 0.35 and with 1.8 rockers will still equal 0.624 valve lift.
I have heard of someone that they machined the heads so that the pedastel (which on an LS7 is part of the head) is flat and then you can use either the LS1 or L98 rockers can't remember which one.

With 1.8 rockers that gives you 0.670 lift

Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 05:18 PM
Well then that being the case if the cam isn't ground already drop your lobe lift to 0.35 and with 1.8 rockers will still equal 0.624 valve lift.
I have heard of someone that they machined the heads so that the pedastel (which on an LS7 is part of the head) is flat and then you can use either the LS1 or L98 rockers can't remember which one.

With 1.8 rockers that gives you 0.670 lift
that's actually a good bloody idea. the cam hasnt been purchased yet, just what i had in mind. i will pass on to the supplier.

The mast heads flow a shitload of air the more lift you give them, but i did want to keep the overall lift under 650 due the cost of upgrading to .700 lift duals.

AGIT8D
13-05-2011, 06:55 PM
Any reason you didn't go with a Melling or otherwise oil pump? They are not very expensive and my vague knowledge would tell me oil flow insurance is optimum.. Perhaps the stock ported pump flows more and out performs the aftermarket?

heavyduty1340
13-05-2011, 07:03 PM
Tre Cool - noice set up

Should be another quick car for you:goodjob:

Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 08:49 PM
no particular reason. except the oil pump that's being used is from the original engine which had minimal usage. i have then gone and ported the in/exit side of the oil pump and shimmed the spring for increased pressure.

I know it sounds silly to say im doing it on a budget considering some of the parts used, but i didnt feel replacing the oil pump was neccesary. Considering the abuse the motor in my ve has put up with and that's a factory motor, I dont feel the need to replace it.

I took some pics of parts when i got home, because everyone loves pictures...

What a piston looks like after a snapped valve and is repeatably stabbed to death by the remaining valve stem.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/smashed.JPG

but yeah, anyway on to bigger and better things as they say.

The reason for the sleeves...(note the 2 gouges)
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/bore.JPG

Only cyclinder 1 was damaged all the others were fine. The fact that this happened did not make me very happy at all.

Onto the new parts:
Bearings & Timing set
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/tcbearings.JPG

Headgaskets
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/headgasket.JPG

Assortment of Felpro gaskets. mainly front/rear timing covers seals etc.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/gaskets.JPG

Cleaned sump of all the extra bits left over from the piston and factory baffle removed in preperation for the aftermarket item.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/Sump.JPG

7 spare factory pistons & rods. Free to a good/bad home.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/Old-pistons.JPG

Waterpump & blower boxed away for safe keeping.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/blower.JPG

throttlehappy
13-05-2011, 08:54 PM
good use for the alanis morrisette cd :goodjob:

SirNemesis
13-05-2011, 10:05 PM
Those don't look like LS9 headgaskets to me!

Tre-Cool
13-05-2011, 10:33 PM
Those don't look like LS9 headgaskets to me!
they probably aren't then. i ordered 2 sets of gaskets. 1 for the new motor. 1 for my ve. as I have a dodgy lifter that needs replacing.

i just took a closer look and they are a 3 layer gasket, so possible ls7 gaskets. which because of the bore size would make sense.

PSI086
14-05-2011, 04:15 PM
good luck with the build mate be good to see it come to life!

peter b
14-05-2011, 04:24 PM
that's actually a good bloody idea. the cam hasnt been purchased yet, just what i had in mind. i will pass on to the supplier.

The mast heads flow a shitload of air the more lift you give them, but i did want to keep the overall lift under 650 due the cost of upgrading to .700 lift duals.

If the heads continue to flow past 0.624 lift why not increase lift up to 0.640 on inlet and 0.630 on exhaust. Reason for more lift on intake than exhaust it will help it come on boost quicker and harder.
Lobe lift would equal
Intake 0.3555 x 1.8 equals 0.640
Exhaust 0.35 x 1.8 equals 0.630

Tre-Cool
14-05-2011, 04:56 PM
I've thought about the cam/head scenario over night and i've decided to save some money and just go with the medium bore heads without the 6 bolt clamping.
Flow wise, They are still really good anyway.
Link (http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/product-view.php?cat=Cylinder Heads - Assembled&id=361)

There's a few reasons:
1 is the waiting time for custom cam
2 is price in the bigger heads and the more expensive ls7 rocker setup
3 is the issue with having to use a spacer flange for the pacemaker headers to fit up

So with that now decided, it's just waiting for parts to turn up.

Speaking of which, i picked up the Improved Racing sump baffle from the post office this morning and fitted it to the sump.

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/baffle1.JPG
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/baffle2.JPG
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/410%20build/sump2.JPG

hsv364
14-05-2011, 05:02 PM
Wicked Dave ....

Keep the updates rolling mate , All the best with it :goodjob:

Tre-Cool
14-05-2011, 05:04 PM
Wicked Dave ....

Keep the updates rolling mate , All the best with it :goodjob:
Will do, we havent seen many build ups on the forum for a while. so i figure i got nothing to hide. might as well show and shoot the shit with people in here.

peter b
14-05-2011, 05:08 PM
I've thought about the cam/head scenario over night and i've decided to save some money and just go with the medium bore heads without the 6 bolt clamping.
Flow wise, They are still really good anyway.
Link (http://www.mastmotorsports.com/2010/product-view.php?cat=Cylinder Heads - Assembled&id=361)

There's a few reasons:
1 is the waiting time for custom cam
2 is price in the bigger heads and the more expensive ls7 rocker setup
3 is the issue with having to use a spacer flange for the pacemaker headers to fit up

So with that now decided, it's just waiting for parts to turn up.

Speaking of which, i picked up the Improved Racing sump baffle from the post office this morning and fitted it to the sump.


In regards to the heads why not look at a set of Trickflow Specialties 245 cc runner and has the 6 bolt arrangement get them as a bare head and fill it with god quality valves etc. They are a cathedral port head but their flow figures are quite good and they take a normal style rocker setup

255-LS1
14-05-2011, 05:08 PM
any reason you didn't go for a cast iron block straight up considering the state of your original alloy one?

Tre-Cool
14-05-2011, 05:44 PM
I dont need or require the 6 bolt heads. plus the blower has the square port L98/LS3 config.

The reason for using the alloy block is because i allready had it i.e it had done less than 10k km's, and i would still be limited to a .30 oversize piston anyway.

peter b
14-05-2011, 05:46 PM
I dont need or require the 6 bolt heads. plus the blower has the square port L98/LS3 config.

The reason for using the alloy block is because i allready had it i.e it had done less than 10k km's, and i would still be limited to a .30 oversize piston anyway.

Sorry i Misread before I presumed turbo ignore previous post about cam in regards to lift. Thats fair. Yeah the 6l iron block while being stronger is still same limitations plus added weight.

Kingston_99
14-05-2011, 07:10 PM
nice build up.
reminds me of when mine was in getting the 383ci stroker and HTV2300 bolted on after wards.

i also think you will crack more then just 400hp... mine on a run intune has just shy of 500hp!

Kingston_99
14-05-2011, 07:46 PM
also if your wondering what the blower sounds like with the toothed belt on the rear, heres mine :P

YouTube - Kingstons VY 383ci HTV2300 walk around

boggers007
14-05-2011, 08:36 PM
nice build up.
reminds me of when mine was in getting the 383ci stroker and HTV2300 bolted on after wards.

i also think you will crack more then just 400hp... mine on a run intune has just shy of 500hp!

Pretty sure the 400hp is taking the piss, that cam alone would push it way beyond that.

Tre-Cool
14-05-2011, 10:00 PM
Pretty sure the 400hp is taking the piss, that cam alone would push it way beyond that.
Winner!


come on guys. 400hp, honestly...

SirNemesis
14-05-2011, 10:04 PM
430hp :jester:

Kingston_99
14-05-2011, 10:05 PM
Winner!


come on guys. 400hp, honestly...

i was gona say, you will be disapointed you cracked over 400! LOL
i thought you were dreaming when you said that haha :P

Tre-Cool
17-05-2011, 07:49 PM
Minor update:
Last order of main parts has been paid for, so just waiting on them to arrive before i drop off for machining.

I have gone for the normal LS3 Medium bore heads with hollow stem intake and inconel exhaust valves and a set of aftermarket roller rockers.

Also ordered LS9 valve covers, coil packs, wiring harness & LSA oil tube/cap as my old man need's my original set for his own 416ci motor that is being built.

servo2605
20-05-2011, 06:35 PM
u sir have too much kesh... hahahaha.. following this build with interest.

SirNemesis
20-05-2011, 06:35 PM
Finished yet?

BEARWOOD
20-05-2011, 07:08 PM
did you order the gear yourself or someone getting it for you? Where did you get it from?

Tre-Cool
20-05-2011, 09:17 PM
Finished yet?
nah. decided to wait for the crank to turn up before driving to machinist to get started on the block.

All parts ordered from AES Racing engines in the USA

Tre-Cool
03-08-2011, 06:36 PM
Small update: The only update is that im still waiting on parts... not happy is under statement, considering parts have been paid for, for over 2 months now.

only recieved crank/rods a month ago. still waiting on heads, valve springs and assorted smaller parts.

shits no longer funny.

SirNemesis
03-08-2011, 06:44 PM
Everything coming from AES?

Tre-Cool
03-08-2011, 07:33 PM
yep.

so either they have some really incompetant suppliers or something is just wrong..

SirNemesis
03-08-2011, 07:34 PM
Hrmm, not like Fraser... Must be a good reason for it! Hopefully it all turns out for the best.

Toast
04-08-2011, 07:38 PM
Small update: The only update is that im still waiting on parts... not happy is under statement, considering parts have been paid for, for over 2 months now.

First of all interesting build, I have been following this.

I know your pain. Fraser took 2 months from the time I paid them, to post my cam parts. Something very minor compared to what you have paid for, but shouldn't matter regaurdless... I wasn't too happy with that and wont ever buy from them again.

vuss383
04-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Thats an interesting amount of time to be waiting on parts . I remember when Fraser was at SpeedInc the orders were always prompt on delivery . I'd be shooting them off an Email & asking Where The Fu(K the parts are .

Should be an interesting combo once finished !!

Troy

Tre-Cool
04-08-2011, 09:58 PM
i've sent multiple emails, i.e once every week to get an update.

i can understand that he probably gets very busy, but it only takes a minute or 2 to send an email update.

I've dealt with fraser plenty of times before so that's why i didnt hesitate in contacting him, on the plus side he originally got me the darton sleeves within a week to get the ball rolling.

im only a bit quezy on all this due to the current us economic environment. i wanted to get in some parts quick before things go to shit, and with over $4k worth of parts still outstanding right now.

it aint good

Tre-Cool
29-08-2011, 09:18 PM
and im still waiting....

sent an email off to fraser to make sure it ships this week or provide me a detailed (& it better be a ****ing good one) explanation as to why it hasnt shipped.

If i dont like the answer, I'm ringing my bank/Credit card provider and just have the money re-imbursed.

Fraser, buddy if your reading this... COMMUNICATION!!!

VYSHSV8
29-08-2011, 09:25 PM
Agreed ^^^^^^^^ :)

Fraser
30-08-2011, 09:45 AM
Email sent, i've been communicating regarding the cylinder heads, its kind of out of my control.

But good news is on the horizon for David:)

Fraser

HOWQUICK
30-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Email sent, i've been communicating regarding the cylinder heads, its kind of out of my control.

But good news is on the horizon for David:)

Fraser

why take money off people for parts you don't have it stock? Deposit is one thing but to bill the total and then say it is "out of my control" is totally unethical and extremely poor business practice.:soap:

lesson for online buyers here....MAKE SURE THEY HAVE STOCK BEFORE THEY SWIPE YOUR CARD! ;)

VYSHSV8
30-08-2011, 08:50 PM
why take money off people for parts you don't have it stock? Deposit is one thing but to bill the total and then say it is "out of my control" is totally unethical and extremely poor business practice.:soap:

lesson for online buyers here....MAKE SURE THEY HAVE STOCK BEFORE THEY SWIPE YOUR CARD! ;)

100% correct or atleast a guarantee if its not in stock within a certain time I will refund full amount, and have it in writing so there is no comebacks etc :):), nothing worse than waiting on parts for a build.
But yes there are sometimes unforcene circumstances on the odd occasion and its only a ph call to let people know :):)

HYMEY
02-09-2011, 12:44 PM
Fraser is supplying my engine parts aswell, I have bought parts from Fraser aswell, although it may not be as easy for him now he isn't at speed inc?

To start with communication was great, still is just seams to be tapering off now. Sorry to bust into your thread Tre but I am waiting on heads, crank, also I am pushing for the manifold, I have asked for when they turn up to shoot me an email and even something as simple as letting me know if my custom cam turns up, I feel as though I have to get angry to communicate. I don't take things lightly and those that know me know what I get like and I will have no hesitation to fly over there to front them in person. Or just get money back through the bank. I am not even hearing excuses. SO FRASER READ IT PPL ARE F^&&&& PISSED and there will be shit done about it so get your act together cause I am f&&&ing over it.!

Fraser
03-09-2011, 11:42 AM
Fraser is supplying my engine parts aswell, I have bought parts from Fraser aswell, although it may not be as easy for him now he isn't at speed inc?

To start with communication was great, still is just seams to be tapering off now. Sorry to bust into your thread Tre but I am waiting on heads, crank, also I am pushing for the manifold, I have asked for when they turn up to shoot me an email and even something as simple as letting me know if my custom cam turns up, I feel as though I have to get angry to communicate. I don't take things lightly and those that know me know what I get like and I will have no hesitation to fly over there to front them in person. Or just get money back through the bank. I am not even hearing excuses. SO FRASER READ IT PPL ARE F^&&&& PISSED and there will be shit done about it so get your act together cause I am f&&&ing over it.!

Joel

You didn't have this attitude when I sent you a pic of your custom pistons /rods when they showed up 2 weeks ago?:confused:

So to say no communication, i'd say is inaccurate?

Bottom line, you want your stuff done, I understand that, stuff the communication, customers want results, not hot air talk.

HYMEY
05-09-2011, 08:34 PM
Well atleast we are getting somewhere Fraser, I do my best to hold it in.

vuss383
05-09-2011, 09:49 PM
Fraser , maybe you should just spill the beans as to what's causing the delays before too much damage is done. We all know that giving a reason could restore some faith in future purchases .

Street Boxer
06-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Hey Tre Cool any more news on the build? Have read the thread with great interest as ur build is a path I would likely go down also.. Sorry to others for digging up an old thread, was using the search function..

Tre-Cool
06-03-2012, 03:33 PM
build is still going ahead, just stopped at the moment while im at the start of a new job.

Also doesnt help that i've just spent another 1700 bucks on a set of new 2" extractors for my ve. oops lol.

but to the original topic, parts are all at home, i just need to get some money togethor before dropping it off to SQP to assemble.

I have also decided to go twin turbo with a set of gtx35's on custom high mount manifolds instead of a harrop or whipple blower.

Thinking of going water to air barrel coolers instead of the normal front mount too, but we shall see.

Tre-Cool
09-07-2012, 10:57 AM
Small update. motor is built but i wont pick it up for a couple of weeks till after my next work swing. then there is a fair bit of work to do for running fuel/water lines etc.

Tre-Cool
28-12-2012, 06:24 PM
As usual, things are progressing ever so slowly. (been helping a mate with his burnout car, working on my ve, dad's ve and work schedule)

I've had the completed engine for a few months now and it's been put back into the car along with all the drivetrain etc, however in my brilliance decided that while it was allready off the road i might as well put some dynamat in.

That all went well, even if it did take me a month or so to finish.

Ordered some ID1000 Injectors, installed along with polished fuel rails. Installed new -8 fuel line to replace the old -6 feed line.
2 x new 044 pumps and a shitload of new fittings - just need wiring done
battery relocation to the tray - about 80% complete

ordered tial v-band 1.06 housings from the usa - arrived
ordered GTX 3582 turbo's and tial mvs38's today
ordered ve brembo kit off ebay - arrived
i got some ve to vy adapter brackets for above brakes a few months ago

When i get back home in jan, I'm going to send the harness over to Justin @ Ultimate Conversion Wiring to change out the injector plugs and put wiring in to suit an eboost2, so i dont have to worry about tapping into wiring at a later date.

Waiting on availability of my fabricator to make the turbo manifolds but needless to say it needs to be completed by march so i can run it in before a runway event in April.

Tre-Cool
26-01-2013, 03:30 AM
So last week the night before i flew to work, I got the engine started for a minute or so. I didnt run it for long as it was 8:45pm and motor only had extractors on, but the engine had oil pressure and came to a perfect idle with the xspurt 1000 injectors. So i was happy and left it.

If the weather permits, my dad is going to remove the exhaust and extractors from my race car over the weekend and I will install it back on the vy when i get back next week. So i can put some km's on the new motor before the twin turbo kit is fab's up for it.

With any luck it I'm hoping it will crack the 330rwkw mark in it's NA form.

VYSHSV8
26-01-2013, 09:17 AM
Good to hear Dave :)

Evman
26-01-2013, 09:35 AM
Can't wait to see it all together Dave

feistl
19-04-2013, 12:17 PM
I demand an update :stick:

:)

IJ.
19-04-2013, 12:30 PM
I demand an update :stick:

:)

I second the motion!

Tre-Cool
19-04-2013, 04:18 PM
I raced the car with this motor in at racewars recently in my vy ute, it made around 460rwhp but it looks like the valve springs need to be replaced as it falls over after 6k rpm. so the motor is getting pulled out next week and i will have the cam/springs changed to suit some high rpm. it then go into my new drag car im building.

Still managed to beat a stock motor c6 corvette and a few other cars over the course of the weekend and did the standing 1km in 23 seconds.

Tre-Cool
16-09-2014, 12:33 AM
Thread dig.

Not much has happened with this motor since i built it apart from using it in my ute for racewars in 2013. It has however found a home in my new drag car that i've been building for the last 12 months ever so slowly.

I'm hoping to have it down the strip within the next 2 months as it just needs some finishing work on the exhaust and a couple of water tanks made up.

It has a couple of T76 sized turbo's & uses a VE Radiator & Treadstone intercooler.
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/vx-drag/20140402_204405.jpg

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/vx-drag/20140402_204541.jpg

LETMH8
27-12-2014, 12:27 PM
This thing is an animal mate! Well done 👌

Tre-Cool
10-04-2015, 12:55 PM
Thread Update.

took my drag car down to whoop ass Wednesday this week, was a late arvo decision as i thought it be rained out. Turned out pretty good with only about 28 cars in total but there was a couple of cars that blew up and oil'd down the track.

we left 19psi in the rear slicks as I just wanted to get some km's on the car/motor to dial in the tune, No hard launches etc.

1st run = 14 @ 98mph - Made sure the brakes would work and the driveline was all good
2nd run = 12.1 @ 120mph - boost control wasn't working, hit timing cut when it hit 14psi. throttle'd out before half track
3rd run = 10.3 @ 125mph - The only update to the tune was after this run and that was to add another 2 degree's of timing (was probably pointless at this stage but meh, total advance = 12 degrees)
4th run = 10.1 @ 138mph - gave it some more throttle, shifted from 2nd to 3rd way to early. It has a 5500 convertor so revs stayed up. high 1.7 - 60 foot.

https://youtu.be/wJYkkIpZkw8

https://youtu.be/_ySWz7uSf5M

have a few things left to sort out before I get it all tech inspected, but with it's current progress it looks like my hopes of running some sub 9.5's could be on the cards.


highest throttle position i went was 73% max boost 10.1psi and still very low timing. this car is going to be scary quick.

might need to adjust seat position as i thought i was pushing the pedal all the way.

jaykay
10-04-2015, 01:32 PM
Nice work Dave :goodjob:

Tre-Cool
25-04-2015, 11:57 PM
results from holden vs ford meet tonight. only got 2 runs in but new pb's again.

9.64 @ 143mph
9.510 @ 145mph

same boost as before of around 11psi, need to take a look at throttle cable as im still only getting a max of 82% when the pedal is on the floor. TB was checked and it's not opening all the way.

sportwagon
26-04-2015, 12:02 PM
Is this engine still in the green vy ute dave.

Tre-Cool
27-04-2015, 10:53 PM
Is this engine still in the green vy ute dave.

nope. it's in my vx drag car in the pictures above.

my ute has my original 402ci motor with a htv2300 on it.

BTS666.0
06-05-2015, 10:40 AM
needs a wheel alignment :)

Tre-Cool
06-05-2015, 04:41 PM
needs a wheel alignment :)

nah just needed to loosen the steering wheel bolt and relocate it in the right spot, was easily fixed.

sportwagon
06-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Dave can you tell us what it weighs and what sort of power shes making,if i was to guess being a caged vx probably fairly stripped out about 1500kg and about 800rwhp.

Tre-Cool
06-05-2015, 09:25 PM
I will when I actually get it weighed. I reckon it'll still come in around the 1650kg mark & 700rwhp Power wise. its not been on the dyno and probably never will with the 5500 stall in it.

my dad's drag car does weigh a little more than mine and im pretty sure his was in the 1700's. power wise his made in the mid 500 mark but it just destroys tyres on the dyno and we've gone from 138-145mph so far by bumping up the timing on the track.

Tre-Cool
07-05-2015, 09:10 PM
here's the full time slip of the 9.5 run and I've over layed the pb from my A6 VE SSV I had. (sold it)
http://www.torqueup.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/vx-v-ve.png

Tre-Cool
12-03-2016, 11:39 PM
so small update after a long time. I did get the car weighed one night and it was 1550kg with me in it. I was around 120kg at the time. I'm now 105kg.

Anyway with the old converter the best i could get out of it was 9.4 something @ 233kph like above. I ended up ordering 2 new converters from circle'd in the states, both around the 3500rpm mark, 1 to suit transbrake the other for stalling on foot brake.

raced it last night and straight off the trailer it went 9.214 @ 242kph (150mph) on the foot brake still.
http://www.torqueup.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/9.214.jpg

Unfortunately it broke a stub axle coming out of the burnout box for my 2nd run, so that was all i could do last night.

blackvussii
13-03-2016, 01:59 AM
Great time, well done! Think I saw a thread a while ago where you bought a ve ute with a 2300 on it, anything happening with it?

Tre-Cool
13-03-2016, 11:37 AM
Great time, well done! Think I saw a thread a while ago where you bought a ve ute with a 2300 on it, anything happening with it?
yeah, i've ran a 10.5 @ 127mph in it with the 6lt. When i get time i'll drop in my 6.2 and aim for a high 9.

Tre-Cool
03-05-2016, 01:00 AM
So i raced the drag car on sunday during a private hire event. After putting in a 3rd 044 pump Im now getting plenty of fuel, so i could safely wind the boost up.

I've still got some work to do on it, as it looks like the alternator is only holding around 12v so it requires some recharging after a while, so i mostly did a couple of hotlap runs but it was pretty consistant at running 8.9's when i did some 2nd gear stalls and then pulled it back into 1st for the launch.

I didn't record all my runs but i got the 6 of the quickest on video. :-)


https://youtu.be/jPrzSYqV90U


https://youtu.be/QahGUPUIizs


https://youtu.be/_S_YvJ4MLrg

Fastest mph for the day was 158

We only have 1 more round of the fast series left to do, so i'll run it back on spring pressure. during the season break i'll have the accumulator to do, new gearbox with trans brake and i might even change the camshaft to something better suited for the turbo's.

Time sheet data is available here.
http://www.torqueup.net/drag/data.php

whitels1ss
03-05-2016, 06:01 AM
So i raced the drag car on sunday during a private hire event. After putting in a 3rd 044 pump Im now getting plenty of fuel, so i could safely wind the boost up.

I've still got some work to do on it, as it looks like the alternator is only holding around 12v so it requires some recharging after a while, so i mostly did a couple of hotlap runs but it was pretty consistant at running 8.9's when i did some 2nd gear stalls and then pulled it back into 1st for the launch.

I didn't record all my runs but i got the 6 of the quickest on video. :-)


https://youtu.be/jPrzSYqV90U


https://youtu.be/QahGUPUIizs


https://youtu.be/_S_YvJ4MLrg

Fastest mph for the day was 158

We only have 1 more round of the fast series left to do, so i'll run it back on spring pressure. during the season break i'll have the accumulator to do, new gearbox with trans brake and i might even change the camshaft to something better suited for the turbo's.

Time sheet data is available here.
http://www.torqueup.net/drag/data.php

Great work, gee that's quick!
Well done mate! :goodjob:

Tre-Cool
19-05-2016, 01:42 PM
did a WAW event last night. got a new PB.



ET
ET KPH
ET MPH ▴
RT
60
330
660
660 KPH
660 MPH
1000




8.893
252.83
157.1
2.265
1.493
3.852
5.787
204.19
126.88
7.463

whitels1ss
20-05-2016, 02:49 PM
That's flying mate. :goodjob:

Tre-Cool
09-02-2017, 03:21 PM
Another update.

Took the car to WAW last night, I've changed to a 3.27 diff gear. Tighter converter to suit the new trans-brake th400 (though not using trans-brake)
Also switched to a stiff sidewall slick, apparently from what I've read the soft sidewall is better suited for fixed mounted rear end's. I'd say after last night the new tires are working well. I've never done consistent 1.4's before EVER.



Date ▴
Time
Driver
Make
Model
Body
Trans
Track
Dial-in
ET
ET KPH
ET MPH
RT
60
330
660
660 KPH
660 MPH
1000
Ambient Temp
Abs Pressure
Correct. Pressure
Rel. Humidity
Dew Point
Dens. Altitude
Track Temp
Prepped Track
Racing Lane
Tyre Type
Tyre PSI
Boost PSI
Launch Type
Launch RPM
Diff Ratio
Comment


2017-02-08
20:12:00
David
Holden
VX Berlina
Sedan
TH400
Perth Motorplex

8.697
257.31
159.89
3.805
1.417
0
5.631
205.92
127.95
7.289
21.2
1009.5
1012.9
29
2.5
272
29.7
No
Left
Slick
15
20
2nd to 1st
3300
3.27



2017-02-08
18:13:00
David
Holden
VX Berlina
Sedan
TH400
Perth Motorplex
0
8.963
249.83
155.24
0.631
1.459
0
5.808
199.58
124.01
7.515
24.7
1007.4
1010.8
25
3.4
434
36
No
Left
Slick
15
14
2nd to 1st
3300
3.27



2017-02-08
19:40:00
David
Holden
VX Berlina
Sedan
TH400
Perth Motorplex

9.244
192.73
119.76
3.293
1.427
0
5.687
204.17
126.87
7.466
22.1
1009
1012.4
27
2.2
311
30.8
No
Left
Slick
15
20
2nd to 1st
3300
3.27
Backed off at top of 2nd


2017-02-08
18:50:00
David
Holden
VX Berlina
Sedan
TH400
Perth Motorplex
0
8.826
252.95
157.18
4.041
1.430
0
5.709
205.53
127.71
7.395
23.6
1008
1011.4
25
2.4
382
33.4
No
Left
Slick
15
17
2nd to 1st
3300
3.27

duke5700
10-02-2017, 04:39 PM
160mph isn't mucking around. Thats a 1000rwhp.

Tre-Cool
10-02-2017, 04:54 PM
yeah, id say so. haha. i did try doing some dyno pulls with it on 12 psi and it was basically useless. it would flash from 5500 to 7k straight away once i tried to load it up.

It's doing pretty well for $600 worth of turbo's!

Tre-Cool
04-03-2019, 10:39 PM
Updating an old thread but the motor is still going strong, but i'll be pulling it out for it's first freshen up within the next few months. The last time i pulled it out and checked the rod bearings they were still like new 18 months ago & i'd done a couple of 1km top speed events in it.

speaking of which, i just competed in the latest event over the weekend, a nice 800km round trip from home & finally got my 200mph window banner by running 324kph. Last year i broke 2 th400 input shafts

Video below of the run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-6pWZ8C0Nk

my dad ran 321kph in his car too, which we will step up again for next year.