crate motor

[red hot 270kw]

Sorry if this topic has been discussed,but I think we would all like a bit more horsepower, I have a 2009 ssv ute and was thinking of getting into a maloo for around 65k.I love my ute but would like some more horses.I know there is a thread on a 454 crate motor being built seems a lot of hard work and $s but im sure the end result will be worth it.I looked at some crate motors on the internet,for eg Pace Performance L92 6.2 litre 530 hp for $10455US it comes complete with all the wiring harnesses and to many other things to list and to tell the truth I wouldn,t know what there all for any way.Is this idea a better alternative than spending $65k on a maloo or am on the wrong track,I would not be able to install the motor and add ons my self so there would be considerable costs involved to do this,I would be intersted to here any + or - for this idea.

[boggers007]

Sorry if this topic has been discussed,but I think we would all like a bit more horsepower, I have a 2009 ssv ute and was thinking of getting into a maloo for around 65k.I love my ute but would like some more horses.I know there is a thread on a 454 crate motor being built seems a lot of hard work and $s but im sure the end result will be worth it.I looked at some crate motors on the internet,for eg Pace Performance L92 6.2 litre 530 hp for $10455US it comes complete with all the wiring harnesses and to many other things to list and to tell the truth I wouldn,t know what there all for any way.Is this idea a better alternative than spending $65k on a maloo or am on the wrong track,I would not be able to install the motor and add ons my self so there would be considerable costs involved to do this,I would be intersted to here any + or - for this idea.

65odd K gets you into a brand new car minus the trade in im guessing? then you gotta spend a few more on mods as you do but in the end you end up with a new car, more horses then what you originally had probs keep you happy for a while and you will more then likely still have a factory warranty etc. New crate motor installed might cos you 20k if not more depending on how far you go. No warranty and you still have the same old car. Depends on how big you want to go and if the 20k price tag just for a motor is worth it to you?

[dazzak75]

For 20K out of the states you can get a lot of engine, and for maybe another 10 - 15K one hell of a engine with a huge supercharger attached, ready to drop in and go.

Let me know if you want some pricing from the states, I have a couple of engine builder over there that make superb engines.

[michaels1v8]

Sorry if this topic has been discussed,but I think we would all like a bit more horsepower, I have a 2009 ssv ute and was thinking of getting into a maloo for around 65k.I love my ute but would like some more horses.I know there is a thread on a 454 crate motor being built seems a lot of hard work and $s but im sure the end result will be worth it.I looked at some crate motors on the internet,for eg Pace Performance L92 6.2 litre 530 hp for $10455US it comes complete with all the wiring harnesses and to many other things to list and to tell the truth I wouldn,t know what there all for any way.Is this idea a better alternative than spending $65k on a maloo or am on the wrong track,I would not be able to install the motor and add ons my self so there would be considerable costs involved to do this,I would be intersted to here any + or - for this idea.

What mods have you done to your ute so far?

[red hot 270kw]

I haven,t done any,I like a car to look like its come of the production line but go like the clappers.

[red hot 270kw]

For 20K out of the states you can get a lot of engine, and for maybe another 10 - 15K one hell of a engine with a huge supercharger attached, ready to drop in and go.

Let me know if you want some pricing from the states, I have a couple of engine builder over there that make superb engines.

So if I wanted say a lot of engine for 20 k what would it cost me for the finished article,drive away no more to pay not looking at superchargers or all the other bits.or what do I need to do to get 454 hp?

[boggers007]

So if I wanted say a lot of engine for 20 k what would it cost me for the finished article,drive away no more to pay not looking at superchargers or all the other bits.or what do I need to do to get 454 hp?

you can get 454 rearwheel horsepower from a good head and cam package on your current motor.

[red hot 270kw]

Just did the calculation kw to hp

Currently I have 270 kw=362 hp

340 kw=456 hp

I need an increase of 70 kw so whats the best way of getting there without being noticed by the law and my neighbours? 20 grand + to get 70kw hmmmmm.

[michaels1v8]

I haven,t done any,I like a car to look like its come of the production line but go like the clappers.

Fair enough buddy.

Going from a stock ss and dropping in a 20k+ motor is going to be a huge step up.

I would at least consider a exhaust, cai & tune first and see if your happy with that.

At very least get the tune done.

A well modded car should have no compromise in terms of driveability compared to stock.

[boggers007]

Just did the calculation kw to hp

Currently I have 270 kw=362 hp

340 kw=456 hp

I need an increase of 70 kw so whats the best way of getting there without being noticed by the law and my neighbours? 20 grand + to get 70kw hmmmmm.

all those are engine numbers, you can get 340engine kw's from a decent cam,otr,exhaust and tune fairly easily. cost you about 6odd grand

[michaels1v8]

Just did the calculation kw to hp

Currently I have 270 kw=362 hp

340 kw=456 hp

I need an increase of 70 kw so whats the best way of getting there without being noticed by the law and my neighbours? 20 grand + to get 70kw hmmmmm.

Thats engine HP. I think you will find most talk in HP/KW at the wheels around here.

Also any particular reason why you want 454hp?

Get in touch with a sponser. Be clear with what you want in terms of power, manners, budget etc and they will help you out with some different combo's and prices to consider.

[redvxr8clubby]

you can get 454 rearwheel horsepower from a good head and cam package on your current motor.

I would have to agree, if it's purely for power upgrade and nothing else, my guess is Maloo $65K, your trade say $35 K, changeover $30K. You could spend a lot less and get a decent power upgrade with your current engine. If you want the Maloo for the total package, engine, brakes, interior, exterior etc, then upgrading your current car would be a waste, if you wind up selling it anyway.

[michaels1v8]

Also it sounds like your kind of new to the whole Gen 3/4 scene.

A good point of first reading would be this

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=33344

the thread is a little old and prices vary depending on the model of car but the basics talked about still apply today.

Cheers

Michael

[stoved]

In the first post you said you were looking at 454 crate motors... then further down you mentioned 454 hp... I think you may be confused about what these numbers mean!

[awesome _vzss]

Before you go swapping engines consider how much power really wanna make and need.
The 6L engine you got has alot of potential.
As stated a nice head and cam combo with otr completed exhaust followed by a tune will turn out a descent number.
Or you could go with a supercharger kit which will make good power also, at the end of the day pick the best combo suited to your needs.

Cheers Steven

[Wonky]

Just did the calculation kw to hp

Currently I have 270 kw=362 hp

340 kw=456 hp

I need an increase of 70 kw so whats the best way of getting there without being noticed by the law and my neighbours? 20 grand + to get 70kw hmmmmm.

As already mentioned, you are talking power at the engine, whereas on here we usually talk about power at the wheels which is directly measurable on a dyno without pulling the engine out.

If you are after only a 70kw increase (even at the wheels) that's very easy to achieve, even with a stock or HSV exhaust system which won't get you in trouble with the law or neighbours.

My SSV A6 went from 201rwkw (rear wheel kw) to 260 with just basic mods eg. extractors, exhaust, OTRCAI (over the radiator cold air intake) and tune. You might gain 5 to 10 kw less by going with HSV extractors and your exhaust but if you did that you'd probably be up for only around 2k (some places have been offering OTR/tune packages for $1500 or less and a set of VE HSV extractors can be picked up for anywhere from a slab to $300 max).

Going HSV extractors with stock exhaust means it will still meet legal noise limits. For another $3k-$4k you could put an unobtrusive cam in and gain another 30 - 60rwkw. In fact if you want a cam and go that way from the outset there's an extra saving as you don't end up paying for two tunes.

There are plenty of good sponsors in Sydney - go and talk to them and get them to take you for a ride in a car with the sort of power you're wanting to see what you think.

If you really have money burning a hole in your pocket give some to me! :D

Another option if you're after the power of a Maloo is just buy a crate LS3 and stick a cam straight in it before it's installed. :yup:

[red hot 270kw]

I have certainly been given a lot of information to absorb,I will take your advice and source a sponsor that is recommended on here,there are too many different alternatives so it is best to talk to someone in person,the ZR1 LS9V-8 does look pretty special though.

[HQvanner]

I have certainly been given a lot of information to absorb,I will take your advice and source a sponsor that is recommended on here,there are too many different alternatives so it is best to talk to someone in person,the ZR1 LS9V-8 does look pretty special though.

so does the 27grand price tag haha

[sv300 - 75]

when you say a 454 crate motor, this means a 454 cubic inch motor. thats 7.4 litres of capacity in the engine.
this is not the horsepower that the engine puts out. thats a whole different figure.

you might find for a good heads and cam job you will be looking at about 6k to 8k depending on the parts you change over when you do the mods (the work shop will cover this with you).

im guessing you are after a nice and powerfull daily driver that is not too crazy. you will get this with the heads and cam but you will have to try and keep the exhaust a bit quieter which is easy done.

hope this helps and all the best with your mods

[red hot 270kw]

when you say a 454 crate motor, this means a 454 cubic inch motor. thats 7.4 litres of capacity in the engine.
this is not the horsepower that the engine puts out. thats a whole different figure.

you might find for a good heads and cam job you will be looking at about 6k to 8k depending on the parts you change over when you do the mods (the work shop will cover this with you).

im guessing you are after a nice and powerfull daily driver that is not too crazy. you will get this with the heads and cam but you will have to try and keep the exhaust a bit quieter which is easy done.

hope this helps and all the best with your mods

Your right getting my cubic inch and HP confused and yes a standard looking ss with abit more grunt.