Finally, an 11.....

[LYTNING]

Well, finally cracked the ever elusive 11 sec run at Willowbank tonight. Final run and the one that got me the win in the quick eliminator was an 11.96@ 111.14mph. The mph was way down for some reason but I am just happy to finally get an 11 after days of trying.

Very happy with the 60' time of 1.65 and the reaction times for the racing were all in the .4's with a best of .400. Unfortunately it didn't get as cold as it has been in the last few nights but still 14 degrees is better than the summer temps.

For those that may wonder or not know(and to head of a heap of pm's), I have a mild 222/224 cam with some head work with a MAFless tune all carried out by PowerTorque, one of the forum sponsors. If you're in Brisbane or close by and you want to do similar times, give Mark a bell.

[loser_bob]

congrats paul. good time there, must have hooked up well

[Haroc]

Congrats Paul, i know youve been trying for a while :)

[VU II SS]

:dance: Congrats Paul:thumbsup:

So now do you try for 10's:hide:

Pete

[strife]

well done nice one

[The Warden]

Fantastic time Paul, congrats:thumbsup:

:cheers:
Gordie.

[GOKU]

Well done. Thats really a good time :)

[REDHOT SS]

Congratulations Paul, it's always rewarding to achieve a set goal. What's next though??:nyuk: Don't be tempted by the Nitrous bug!!

BTW Keep your rear view mirror nice and clean as that red VY you can see in the distance is gunna get a lot bigger real soon!!:evil: :evil:


Well done mate,
Jamie.

[vs355]

Congratulations Paul and Mark
Nice work and good to see it all done locally

[Mozz]

Good work young man - I think there is something in this story for all of us ;)

[Hymee]

Good work Paul!

:thumbsup:

I know how pleased you must be. Good work to MM as well.

:bounce:

Cheers,
Hymee.

[richiejs]

:thumbsup: good work champ, i am just pissed that i missed it.

[Blown Monaro]

Well done on the 11 mate. It's gives some satisfaction after
spending the time and money to set such a good time :cheers:

[QIKMIK]

:cheers: Top job, Paul.

Another trophy for the mantle.

Mick

[RhysB]

Well done Pauly!:thumbsup: So, what is the next step you can take with the beast? Bigger cam? More head (work)? What will you and Mark come up with next:idea: mmmmm. Now all I gotta do is call Mark next week to line up "The Boss" for some some similar tricks.;) Good on ya mate.

[v8 ute]

Congratulations tossee:thumbsup:

[LYTNING]

Originally posted by v8 ute
Congratulations tossee:thumbsup:

Thanks Tosser !!:p and everyone else.

Not sure what is next. We could fiddle around with the current setup to drop another tenth but I'm not sure if that is going to satisfy me. I'll have to talk to Mark about where we go from here but obviously the next goal is mid 11's N/A.

I'm sure I'll keep you all posted.:cool:

[RichardM]

Well done. :thumbsup:

And all without cheating. (Turbo's etc)

[200sx_xspsi]

Congrats Paul! :thumbsup:
Welcome to the 11 sec club.:wave: ;)
That's an awesome time and the 60 ft is not too shabby at all. It must have shocked quite a few of the racers and spectators there.:shock:

[BRUTE]

Congrats Paul :thumbsup:

wicked times :cool:

[Fabio's CV8]

Congrats Paul....

Your gonna have to come down and see how she does in Mexican weather....:hide:

[XLR8 V8]

Nice work Boofhead! :headbang:
Setting hefty targets and actually achieving them .... gotta be happy with that! :yup:

[motomk]

Originally posted by FDVTGEN3SS
Congrats Paul....

Your gonna have to come down and see how she does in Mexican weather....:hide:

Yeah I heard that rumour too, The Queensland track being 26 metres shorter or something like that!!;)

Well done, on joining that exclusive club!
I would like to get there someday but stamp collecting club will have to do for the moment!!:)

motomk

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by motomk
Yeah I heard that rumour too, The Queensland track being 26 metres shorter or something like that!!;)

Well done, on joining that exclusive club!
I would like to get there someday but stamp collecting club will have to do for the moment!!:)

motomk

The knife beat me to it. Qld's say happy southern dynos!
Must be happy nothern timing.:shock: :shock: :shock:

Great result!

[Roger]

Slicks ???

[Dane]

A sensational time .... :D

Have set the next level for other to follow now .... :burnout:

:cheers:

[Plan B]

Great Job! Welcome to the 11's and mid 1.6 - 60'.

[Ghosn]

Well Done Paul,

Good to see u achieved ur goals like u told me :P

:thumbsup:

[cat12z]

:thumbsup:

[LYTNING]

Originally posted by Roger
Slicks ???

Definately.

I just have to be strong and not go to the dark side by using NOS to drop the times from here and to do it N/A.:rolleyes:

[Brett SS]

Congratulations Paul, excellent work. :thumbsup:

What sort of intake are you running now seeing that you are MAFless?

Also, are you still running my old hi-stall or have you slotted something else in there to get those awesome 60' times.

Brett.

[Delco]

Good stuff Mate , lokking forward to heading to the track if summer ever comes back over here :D

Great time for a nice streetable combo - congrats to Mark as well

I will kill for a 60" time like that

[LYTNING]

Brett, I'm now running a PowerTorque over radiator intake straight onto the TB. Although I have the standard radiator, the intake still has quite a sizeable opening and collection width. The induction roar is also great.;) That old converter of yours is currently out being restalled to something similar to the stally in the car at the moment.(Vig 3600) I'm pretty confident that once it goes back in it will do similar 60' times.:)

Make sure you guys post up how you go at your next meet.:cheers:

[Bane]

Congrats Paul, Fantastic time. :thumbsup:

A great side benefit of all this development and knowledge that Mark and Paul have gained is that it will be able to be passed down to future Power Torque customers. :)

[Jonesy]

One word "Legend" :bow:



Jonesy

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by LYTNING
Brett, I'm now running a PowerTorque over radiator intake straight onto the TB.
Make sure you guys post up how you go at your next meet.:cheers:

Is that the ssgen3 type intake or the plan b paint tray. Good to see the NSW boys helping. Might have to try the shorter radiator next.:stick:

many laughed at ssgen3 when he first used it. Bet they are not laughing now.

[1surfer]

We in Qld owe the NSW boys heaps, especially SSgen3 & planB, for their cold air setups that have led us to start getting competitive in the 1/4 mile.

They certainly have been at the forefront of development & very generous with their time consuming development results. I am eternally greatful to you guys & can only speak for myself but all up here getting good results will hopefully acknowledge where the development has stemmed from & give thanks accordingly (as well as to their engine tuners).

[Brett SS]

Originally posted by LYTNING
Brett, I'm now running a PowerTorque over radiator intake straight onto the TB. Although I have the standard radiator, the intake still has quite a sizeable opening and collection width. The induction roar is also great.;) That old converter of yours is currently out being restalled to something similar to the stally in the car at the moment.(Vig 3600) I'm pretty confident that once it goes back in it will do similar 60' times.:)

Make sure you guys post up how you go at your next meet.:cheers:

Good stuff, what sort of MAP readings did you have at WOT down the track with that intake? I am still running through a MAF and airbox so my MAP was around 96-97 down the quarter. Also, I guess that it's a race only intake and doesn't run a filter? Did you have any luck locking the converter in 3rd, I tried it with LS1Edit but it didn't seem to lock at WOT.

I won't be back out to the track for a while, need to sort out a couple of "minor" things first.

Good luck next time you go out. :thumbsup:

Brett.

[r8ls1]

Great stuff m8. :cheers: gotta love the 224 cams, for what they are.

[LYTNING]

Originally posted by Brett SS
Good stuff, what sort of MAP readings did you have at WOT down the track with that intake? I am still running through a MAF and airbox so my MAP was around 96-97 down the quarter. Also, I guess that it's a race only intake and doesn't run a filter? Did you have any luck locking the converter in 3rd, I tried it with LS1Edit but it didn't seem to lock at WOT.


Brett, MAP readings logged were all 99-101 with EFIlive which is a lot better than the SAS style intake I originally used which gets down to 97's during the same runs. This intake is currently race only but the Mark2 version is currently having a removebale filter fitted for normal street use.

I haven't tried locking the converter down the strip, it is another area of testing that needs to be done when we get some more time. I could lock it using EFIlive but my question on exactly how to do this went unanswered so not sure of the exact procedure for doing this. It appears to be a dyno function only where you have to get it into 3rd and then select to lock it up. This might be interesting going down the 1/4, leaning over to hit the lockup on the laptop.

Also, just got my converter back from being restalled and new bits added to it, should be a little bit better in its new state.;) It certainly is getting some use that converter after the amount of LS1's its been in.:rolleyes:

[r8ls1]

Im fairly sure you can cut into the lock up wire in the pcm harness and add an on/off switch, wich according to the yanks works, when edit doesnt. i haven tried it mysef but would be good as some of em gained up to .2 locking it in 3rd, results varying depending on the efficiency of the converter.

[v8 ute]

Originally posted by Justice R8
Is that the ssgen3 type intake or the plan b paint tray. Good to see the NSW boys helping.
No it's not the ssgen3 or Plan B type intake, yes they were the first to have one of this type on an LS1 powered Commodore but they didn't reinvent the wheel.
That type of intake has been used in various guises buy many Race Teams and Manufacturers eg V8 Supercar, GRM Monaro, Chevrolet Camaro & Corvette & of course Pontiac Firebird

[LYTNING]

Timeslip for verification.

http://www.ssute.com/ls1/slip1.bmp

[HRT 8]

That would have been a good run to watch. The car in the lane beside you wasnt hanging about either.

[LYTNING]

Quite funny really. It was some sort of full on drag Torana that was running N/A instead of on the gas. He had a crew of 4 and had to get towed to the staging lanes and then towed back up from down the end of the track.

I drove past him on the way home with the Torana on the back of a trailer and me listening to the radio in my car and the time and car number still on the window. I waved.;)

[hrt_maloo]

I thought that was the idea with doing up a commi, you get a car that could run 10's-->12's all day and you can still drive home and do the shoping in it, sure there is that hks skyline, the rx7 and a few toranas that run 7's and 8's but they cant drive home now can they. Well done, whats the next step being the first NOS free 10 sec commi?.....all in good time though.

[Hqcoupe350]

Only 111mph? Judging by the timeslip you're losing effective hp at mid track (killer 60' tho). Would that be due to convertor slippage? Looks like there's a definite mid 11 on the cards. Very impressive for a porky street driven commodore mate :)

[LYTNING]

Don't know why the mph is down and yet the ET is the best so far. Best ever mph is only 113.89 which I repeated last night on street tyres. Did a 12.41@113.89 with 1.93 60' on my everyday street tyres to see what it would do. Changed back to my original converter that has been restalled. Will try slicks again in the next week or so with this converter.

[hrt_maloo]

Yeah I agree you should atleast be up around the 116-117 mark, maybe even 120 when you get to the mid 11's, 111 and 113 arnt great speeds, but the time is still impressive.

[LYTNING]

My car has always been that way though. I've tended to do great ET's with low mph's. Don't know how that works, but if someone wants to explain it to me I'd be interested in knowing.:confused:

[Red CV8 R]

Originally posted by LYTNING
Don't know why the mph is down and yet the ET is the best so far. Best ever mph is only 113.89 which I repeated last night on street tyres. Did a 12.41@113.89 with 1.93 60' on my everyday street tyres to see what it would do. Changed back to my original converter that has been restalled. Will try slicks again in the next week or so with this converter.

Awesome time on street tyres. What type are they?

[LYTNING]

Falken ZE-326's. Seem to be wearing ok after 20000+km's and numerous cruises, drags etc, but not exactly the best performance tyre.

[Red CV8 R]

12.4 on Street Falkens! I dont know how you did it. Is that the fastest proper street tyred LS1 in the country? Would have to be the quickest Street tyred NA anyway. Damn good achievement, I think I should have bought an auto! :) Well done. :thumbsup:

[LYTNING]

No, I'm sure there are quite a few of the guys on here that have done better real street tyre times.

Went out again Saturday because the weather was perfect but couldn't do better than a 11.99.:( Mainly due to wheelspin with the slicks on.

Only saving grace for the night was a new best 60' time of 1.64 and I finally cracked 114mph. Looks like the restalled and fit out converter is working well.;)

[Red CV8 R]

MPH maybe but the best I have seen listed on this forum is 12.67 from the supercharged Monaro of BlownCV8, everyone else in the low 12s is on slicks! I amy be wrong on this though.

[Craig]

Ye especially with manual its bloody hard to get decent times with street tyres.. I could only get 2 x 12.7's but did heaps of 13's at 115-116mph

Pretty sure 1surfer and cat12z did low 12's on nitto's in syd.

[LYTNING]

Yeah, 1surfer did a 12.44 on Nittos down in Sydney. I know they are legal street tyres but to me they are not true street tyres. I mean, you wouldn't put them on and drive around for 30000kms unless you had lots of $$$. Slicks are slicks and street tyres are street tyres, but to me Nittos are in between and comparing them to the others is not exactly a true comparison. IMO anyway. Or as Richard would say, they are cheating.:)

[Red CV8 R]

Yep by real street tyres I was excluding Nittos. So anyone beat 12.4 that we know of?

[r8ls1]

Good effort.

With more top end HP , no reason 11's arent possible in true street trim.

[r8ls1]

Originally posted by LYTNING
My car has always been that way though. I've tended to do great ET's with low mph's. Don't know how that works, but if someone wants to explain it to me I'd be interested in knowing.:confused:

your ET is about spot on for that MPH

bit off topic, just thought of a good sticker to stir the ford heads....
FORD - Sorry, still no cigar. GM smoked it, again. http://members.roadfly.com/fastandfurious/grin.jpg

[MELV]

Originally posted by HSV Senator
Yep by real street tyres I was excluding Nittos. So anyone beat 12.4 that we know of?

12.2 113mph on falkens
:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup:

[joeboss]

good on ya mate

[Red CV8 R]

Originally posted by MELV
12.2 113mph on falkens
:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup:

Is that NA? Great time! Auto or manual?

[LYTNING]

I believe that was on Nitrous in a manual.

PS. MELV, send me your timeslip if possible and I'll add you to the quick list.

[v8 ute]

Great result Melv,
I didn't know you had been to the strip since you were busting to break into the 13's.
When did you do this ?
what was your 60' ?

Be good to see you out there again
:bounce:

[MELV]

Originally posted by v8 ute
Great result Melv,
I didn't know you had been to the strip since you were busting to break into the 13's.
When did you do this ?
what was your 60' ?

Be good to see you out there again
:bounce:

60foot was a crapy 1.9 :bawl: traction and axal hope were not so cool.

i did the run along time ago. when i 1st got the gas hooked up :evil:

pitty i never used the slicks you got of you. it would have been great to see what it did on slicks.

[200sx_xspsi]

1.9 60 ft is actually pretty good Melv. It's up there with Paul's best effort with auto and stall convertor on street tyres so even better for a manual. Sets up for an awesome time on slicks.:bounce:

[REDHOT SS]

You sure that 60ft time is right?? Any car that can 60ft as lousy as 1.9 yet can still run a 12.2 is showing pretty big power so the MPH should be way up there, not down around 113mph (especially a nitrous car). Be interesting to see the timeslip to check out the incrementals!!


:cheers:

[Nias]

Originally posted by MELV
12.2 113mph on falkens
:yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup:

good effort I thought I was the first and only m6 ls1 in qld in the 12's.(i'm not even close to that time):doh: if i'm not mistaken that would have been run well before Mel and Pauls 11's

[wizza]

Awesome time, well done... And congrats to PowerTorque also. I think I know now for sure where my edit will get done....!!!!

[MELV]

Originally posted by Nias
if i'm not mistaken that would have been run well before Mel and Pauls 11's
yes paul was doing 12.9's with out his h/c package.
and i think mel was doing mid 12's back then.
:whip:

[v8 ute]

I'm amazed how you've managed to keep this under your hat for so long Melv...I mean 12.2 @ 113mph would've been the quickest in Qld and one of the fastest in Australia back then, particularly when you take into account it was on street tyres.

[REDHOT SS]

Be interested to know what your half track time & mph was on that run?? I am assuming this was done at Willowbank??

[MELV]

Originally posted by v8 ute
I'm amazed how you've managed to keep this under your hat for so long Melv...I mean 12.2 @ 113mph would've been the quickest in Qld and one of the fastest in Australia back then, particularly when you take into account it was on street tyres.
its not fast to me.
and i want a car that will do 10's on street tyers.
i just think, wow great all these cars are in 11's but only at the track on slicks. i want to be able to start my car in the morning and take of knowing that it will do a 10's pass the way it is.
no offence to anyone. i know a few ls1 back then doing 12's on street tyers and in auto's. they went threw the same place i did for the GAS setup.
anyway sorry paul for taking over your post thingo.

[strife]

Originally posted by MELV
its not fast to me.
and i want a car that will do 10's on street tyers.
i just think, wow great all these cars are in 11's but only at the track on slicks. i want to be able to start my car in the morning and take of knowing that it will do a 10's pass the way it is.
no offence to anyone. i know a few ls1 back then doing 12's on street tyers and in auto's. they went threw the same place i did for the GAS setup.



but its the same deal as slicks for the track as it is with the gas setup

[v8 ute]

:hmmm:

I'm sorry Melv, you seem like a nice guy and all... but I'm calling it B.S.

I don't know of or have heard of these "gassed, street tyred" cars running 12's...let alone yours.

Produce some evidence and I'll eat my hat.

Good luck on your quest for a daily driven street tyred 10 second car.

I don't think Paul minds too much about you comming in on his post...it's an old one anyway.
It has been amusing to say the least.
If you come in and lay claims to anything please back it up...there is enough B.S. on the internet without there being more in here.

BTW I read your comments on Boostcruising...this comment
415rwhp 11's VXSS
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9400&st=30&#entry80437 and
12.2 on street tyers
11.8 on slicks
Holden VX SS LS1 driven everyday
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14694&st=100&#entry159735



:werd:

[Plan B]

Daily driver with GAS? How many bottles does it use to get to work and back?

[AndyP]

I dont think there is any disrespect intended here but we all know that anyone can claim anything on the internet.... and expecially on forums such as these.
We all know (especially the mods as its our job to get rid of it before you see it) of the crap that can be told on here without having to prove anything!!


Its simple..... all Melv has to do is scan in a copy of the timeslip?

Easy done really.... (although we have stolen this thread ;) )

[Red CV8 R]

You wont see 10s out of an LS1 commodore on street tyres I dont think. If you want 10s on street tyres buy a worked GTR, you dont even need the gas!

[MELV]

Originally posted by HSV Senator
You wont see 10s out of an LS1 commodore on street tyres I dont think. If you want 10s on street tyres buy a worked GTR, you dont even need the gas!
Thats whats on order :moon:

[Red CV8 R]

32,33,or 34?

[MELV]

Originally posted by v8 ute
:hmmm:

I'm sorry Melv, you seem like a nice guy and all... but I'm calling it B.S.


Thanks mate.

[MELV]

Originally posted by HSV Senator
32,33,or 34?
R33 GTR
r34 engine rebuilt with a nizmo n1 block
BAD ASS TURBO
7 point roll cage
triple plate clutch
lsd diffs
cam gears and all that BS thats needed.

[Red CV8 R]

Woah! Sounds awesome! Enjoy! :burnout: :burnout: T88 turbo?

[REDHOT SS]

Originally posted by Nias
good effort I thought I was the first and only m6 ls1 in qld in the 12's.(i'm not even close to that time):doh: if i'm not mistaken that would have been run well before Mel and Pauls 11's

Don't stress Herman, you still are!! Looks like Melv's 12.2 @ 113 was run at the Broadwater carpark one Friday night!!
The only thing that bothers me about people that SAY they have done it, is the fact that it degrades the efforts of the people that HAVE done it. Then again, a timeslip would prove us all wrong!!

[LYTNING]

Allrighty then. Lets just leave this current conversation as is for now please. When SC give Melv his timeslip back, all will be revealed.

[MELV]

Hmm, well boys and girls. Guess what.
i would so much love to shuv this in your faces and prove you all wrong but, really i couldnt give two ***** if you belive it or not. thats why i never said anything in the 1st place.
REDHOT SS : would love to meet up with you some time and see your REDHOT UTE.
V8UTE : Harsh words mate. (im a nice guy and all) but my car is faster than your 12.8 and still has 4 doors :thump:
HSV Senator : Nismo RR581 turbo it doesnt have the lag of the T88.
Plan B : not even going to bother answer your q :teach:
LYTNING : mate thanks for all your help etc. you really are a credit to these forms and thank you for everything you have done to help me mod my once stock SS. dont be waiting for any email of the time slip as i have not pitty for these blokes. i think i will let them sleep easy at night not knowing there is a 12.2 sec street tyerd ls1 out there :flame:

sorry guys i never wanted any trouble. but i cant handle ppl giving my ****. im not a person that talks **** .
PEACE :headbang:

[v8 ute]

No need to get upset Melv.

It would all be straightened out if you provide some evidence of this effort.

It's just that too many things don't add up.

I don't care if you have the fastest car in all Mehico...just proove it.