View Full Version : VE Stabilizer Bars (Sway Bars)
SV6-9.5
02-07-2011, 08:30 PM
Hey Guys:
B4 Someone tells me this has been covered and I need to use the search function, I have tried several searches and none really covered what I'm asking. So if they are here somewhere "I cant find them"
Thinking of upgrading the 2009 VE SV6 suspension with koni/king, nolathane.
Got talking to a dude today and he recons you can leave a softer setting on the shocks (If you want?) and just go harder on the stabilizer bars. This makes sence to me. But thought I would just put this out there and see if anyone can offer further advice.
Firmer shocks negs= rougher ride, harder on the car overall, creates more rattles faster.
posis= better cornering, less body roll, more stability all round
But can an acceptable amount of stability be gained by simply stiffening the sway bars and leaving the shocks set soft?
UTESRULE
02-07-2011, 08:34 PM
throw some coilovers on ur car and then play with the settings
Wonky
02-07-2011, 08:39 PM
Can't give you a definitive answer but a few guys down here I know have put the Whiteline adjustable sway bars in their VEs and swear by them. I think most/all have coilovers which in one way I guess answers your question as they can then control the firmness of the shockers.
Rhc 1
02-07-2011, 09:31 PM
I think on a street car hard bars and soft springs/shocks is the way to go. If your lowering the car anyway and you can justify the outlay then get the coilovers as well.
SV6-9.5
02-07-2011, 10:24 PM
Thanks for the input fellas, it all helps.
SV6-9.5
02-07-2011, 10:30 PM
I see Whiteline seem to be the preferred bars, is there any others worth looking at?
SV6-9.5
03-07-2011, 09:28 AM
I think on a street car hard bars and soft springs/shocks is the way to go. If your lowering the car anyway and you can justify the outlay then get the coilovers as well.
Being fairly new to all this better performance stuff... I had to go and do some homework and find out what these coilovers were and what the diff was between them and other suspension set-ups.
(Correct me if I,m wrong) But it seems the bulk of coilover suspension is adjustable through spring load but not through oil porting in the shock absorber itself???
Im thinking you would need both adjustable to get things set up for individual wants & needs?
I would want a softer shock, with possibly heavier spring compression coupled with some nice adjustable sway bars as not to rattle the car to pieces??? Just what I'm thinking as a newbie to this stuff....
DCV1NU
03-07-2011, 10:18 AM
Being fairly new to all this better performance stuff... I had to go and do some homework and find out what these coilovers were and what the diff was between them and other suspension set-ups.
(Correct me if I,m wrong) But it seems the bulk of coilover suspension is adjustable through spring load but not through oil porting in the shock absorber itself???
Im thinking you would need both adjustable to get things set up for individual wants & needs?
I would want a softer shock, with possibly heavier spring compression coupled with some nice adjustable sway bars as not to rattle the car to pieces??? Just what I'm thinking as a newbie to this stuff....
The Pedders XA coilovers are height & rebound adjustable, a fair few of the forum memebers on here inc myself have this setup & swear by them. Previously coming from the normal Kings/Munroe setup i found a massive difference in the way the car drove & handle, i then recently had Superpro void bushes fitted which again improve the car's handling again(tightened up the ve's rear alot & reduced the axle tramp).
I dont have whiteline swaybars fitted atm but they're are next on the list, from what ive been told by friends who have done it apparantly it completes the ve's handling when combined with the coilover & bushes & makes it handle like its on rails.
Rhc 1
03-07-2011, 10:22 AM
Yes if you are going coilovers you would definately want fully adjustable. I guess it really depends how serious you want to get, if you got fully adjustable coilovers like a hi spec pedders or teins you probably wouldnt need the heavy bars as well, but they would allow you to run softer shock compression settings and not suffer body roll. Really shocks set soft enough to keep the tyre in contact with changes in road surface just slow body roll, so on a sweeper it would still roll, but would stay more level on just hard turn in to a corner. I guess it depends on factors like how rough the roads are you drive on, how low you want to go - lower springs are by nature stiffer over the same distance of travel, I think the coilovers will allow you to go low with softer spring rates than a very short regular coil spring, what tyre profile you want - big wheels add weight that has more of an inertia effect against the car and low profile tyre walls are stiffer also how much body roll you can live with. I love heavy roll bars and soft springs (but some of our roads are shit here, even before the earthquake) when cruising you dont have to map your route based on which roads your car can handle, I dont piss blood or lose a filling after a decent cruise but if I push it at a corner it feels good.
SV6-9.5
03-07-2011, 11:56 AM
I have had koni's B4 and they were awesome "Not coilovers" just Kings/Koni's on 80 series cruiser.
Think I will go the extra and go the koni's. "When funding allows :)"
A few other things to do first. Intake Manifold, Headers/Pipes, Suspension/Swaybars... Job Done!
Trying to get my head around soft springs "Visualize how the soft springs work against a heavier gauge spring" Potholes, Cornering ect...
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