Bloody Fuming @ Truck Driver

[BECAUZ]

:flipoff::flipoff::flipoff: to the truck driver on the m4 this morning who decided to start swerving at cars in the merging lane.

Not only did he swerve at two cars before me but when i was passing him he decided to swerve at me which ended with his front end smacking into my rear quarter and bumper damaging my rim as well.

What the f*** is wrong with people on the roads. What ever happened to road rules and manners?

And then to top it all off the little b**** didnt want to get out of his truck.

Luckily one of the cars he swerved at, a black mercedes which had a poor girl who was so terrified and revved up at him, pulled up beside me and gave me her number as a witness.

Will post up pics later, not so bad but my poor lil daisy is damaged once again from moronic idiots on the roads.

This is now my third claim in less then 12 months with my insurance and not once has it been my damn fault. Can there be any repercussions from insurance companies after a set amount of claims?

end of rant

[Soopy]

Firstly, I'd be lodging a police report.

Surely that equates to criminal damage and reckless endangerment.

[calais190]

Firstly, I'd be lodging a police report.

Surely that equates to criminal damage and reckless endangerment.

+1. Report it to Police!

Do what you can to make sure people like that are no longer driving thousands of kilos of machinary in such a stupid and dangerous manner.

[daoutlawz]

Another for going to cops.

I had one TNT truck tailgate me all the way to work after I went into his lane. He was crawling at 2ks and had a gap of about 20mtrs infront so I went infront of him and he wouldn't stop beeping and highbeaming...

My old man and bro-in-law are truckies so I have every respect for them, but there are a few out there that make everyone else look bad.

[debencha]

not that i agree with reckless behaviour but
dont take on 20-40 tonnes of truck whether it be in a merging situation or pulling in front of them you will have no trouble getting past later if need be
a car can accelerate/stop much faster.

[silvervyss]

I know of two incidents where there has been a accident involving a truck, and the plates have been fake. Not defending the truckie, but there are good ones and there are shocking ones, just like any other vehicle driver out there.

[kangavxss]

Had an incident yesterday where I overtook a semi that pulled out on me from a side street on a straight section of road. Only had a split second to react to avoid an accident. A bit later I got stuck behind a slow old driver in a Camry in a section of road with many blind bends and guess what happened. The trucky caught up to me and overtakes us both around the blind bends. What a moron. No regard for any poor sole that may have been coming the other way, lucky there wasn't.
Idiot...

[ADAM 26]

i was comin up on the outside lane, to pass a truck, and he just turned into my lane, did not give a ****, then when i was ready to give him a serve, he acted like i was invisible! not the first time iv been cut off by a truck, i drive trucks a bit, so i know they need more room and i always allow for that, but some of them are just druged up idiots with no respect. there is also some bloody good drivers aswell. just the bad ones stand out more!

[BECAUZ]

Finished making an insurance claim and headed to the cop shop only to hear they cant do anything because no one was hurt, no one failed to exchange details and no towing of vehicles was required which makes it a minor accident.

Absolute BS that this whack job cant even be issued a fine when he is 100% in the fault and witness details have been provided.

I agree with you debencha but its a little bit different when traffic is moving at a maximum 5km/h on the M4 at around 8AM and you have an irrate truck driver swerving at the merging lane to stop cars who have every right to be travelling in from getting in front of him......

If anyone has any suggestions on other avenues to take please do. I'm waiting on a phone call from a police officer tomorrow to see if anything can be done but she did say the most likely outcome is just an event number.

[peter b]

Finished making an insurance claim and headed to the cop shop only to hear they cant do anything because no one was hurt, no one failed to exchange details and no towing of vehicles was required which makes it a minor accident.

Absolute BS that this whack job cant even be issued a fine when he is 100% in the fault and witness details have been provided.

I agree with you debencha but its a little bit different when traffic is moving at a maximum 5km/h on the M4 at around 8AM and you have an irrate truck driver swerving at the merging lane to stop cars who have every right to be travelling in from getting in front of him......

If anyone has any suggestions on other avenues to take please do. I'm waiting on a phone call from a police officer tomorrow to see if anything can be done but she did say the most likely outcome is just an event number.


In all fairness I wouldn't get your hopes up on getting any justice as cops don't care unless injuries, car needing to be towed, etc.
My advice just get your car fixed and get on with life yes it isn't fair and I feel your pain but realistically there isn't anything you can do about it. The only way he would have got in trouble is if
A) You caused a scene at side of road and called cops
B) Cops saw him and how he was driving.
I do hope your car gets repaired quickly and glad no one was hurt.

[VXSS346]

Finished making an insurance claim and headed to the cop shop only to hear they cant do anything because no one was hurt, no one failed to exchange details and no towing of vehicles was required which makes it a minor accident.

Absolute BS that this whack job cant even be issued a fine when he is 100% in the fault and witness details have been provided.

I agree with you debencha but its a little bit different when traffic is moving at a maximum 5km/h on the M4 at around 8AM and you have an irrate truck driver swerving at the merging lane to stop cars who have every right to be travelling in from getting in front of him......

If anyone has any suggestions on other avenues to take please do. I'm waiting on a phone call from a police officer tomorrow to see if anything can be done but she did say the most likely outcome is just an event number.

Yeah, agreed it sucks.

Try calling the Hoon hotline :spew: and say he was 'hooning'. :burnout:

In Victoria that would probably work. :rolleyes:

Nanny State!!!! :vpo:

[BanPC]

Another for going to cops.

I had one TNT truck tailgate me all the way to work after I went into his lane. He was crawling at 2ks and had a gap of about 20mtrs infront so I went infront of him and he wouldn't stop beeping and highbeaming...

My old man and bro-in-law are truckies so I have every respect for them, but there are a few out there that make everyone else look bad.

When "crawling" along weighing 60 ton I would leave at least a 20 metre gap - that would be safe - oh wait can't because people keep changing into the gap... oh well must want a truck 2 meters off their backside.


waaah

really? I have watched cars on the M4 turn into a merge lane from behind trucks to overtake up the left and then "merge" back into the 20 meter gap in front of the truck only to hit the brakes because a car from the right lane (driven by someone like daoutlawz) has also cut into the gap then the trucks had to hit the brakes ....

A bit of patience instead of trying to get ahead of the truck ... and you won't have to worry about the big nasty truck swerving to try and block off twits trying to squeeze up the merge to get in front... 5 min delay vs hours insurance claiming, fixing, complaining about it on the net... seems easy decision....for next time that is.

[VX2VESS]

Finished making an insurance claim and headed to the cop shop only to hear they cant do anything because no one was hurt, no one failed to exchange details and no towing of vehicles was required which makes it a minor accident.

Absolute BS that this whack job cant even be issued a fine when he is 100% in the fault and witness details have been provided.

I agree with you debencha but its a little bit different when traffic is moving at a maximum 5km/h on the M4 at around 8AM and you have an irrate truck driver swerving at the merging lane to stop cars who have every right to be travelling in from getting in front of him......

If anyone has any suggestions on other avenues to take please do. I'm waiting on a phone call from a police officer tomorrow to see if anything can be done but she did say the most likely outcome is just an event number.

i thought that might happen. dangerous drivers don't give a crap, speed cameras will fix accidents crap.... bloody stupid you can't report bad drivers even worse bad ones who cause an accident.

need one of those in car camera's they have now to record this shit as evidence.

[BECAUZ]

When "crawling" along weighing 60 ton I would leave at least a 20 metre gap - that would be safe - oh wait can't because people keep changing into the gap... oh well must want a truck 2 meters off their backside.



really? I have watched cars on the M4 turn into a merge lane from behind trucks to overtake up the left and then "merge" back into the 20 meter gap in front of the truck only to hit the brakes because a car from the right lane (driven by someone like daoutlawz) has also cut into the gap then the trucks had to hit the brakes ....

A bit of patience instead of trying to get ahead of the truck ... and you won't have to worry about the big nasty truck swerving to try and block off twits trying to squeeze up the merge to get in front... 5 min delay vs hours insurance claiming, fixing, complaining about it on the net... seems easy decision....for next time that is.

What happened to road rules? Its a bloody merging lane with another 200m to go. He had no right to be swerving at cars to stop them from going in front especially when what you should be doing when merging is going to the end of the lane, as far as practically possible, rather then stopping at the beginning to get in behind a "scary" truck and causing unnecessary congestion on the on ramp....

And if it wasnt for another truck driver who stopped the truckie at fault was about to cop a hammering. Had the "twit" half out his window. Next time i know to get in the cabin rather then get him out.... Not a good attitude? Hopefully i'll get better :soap:

[daoutlawz]

When "crawling" along weighing 60 ton I would leave at least a 20 metre gap - that would be safe - oh wait can't because people keep changing into the gap... oh well must want a truck 2 meters off their backside.



really? I have watched cars on the M4 turn into a merge lane from behind trucks to overtake up the left and then "merge" back into the 20 meter gap in front of the truck only to hit the brakes because a car from the right lane (driven by someone like daoutlawz) has also cut into the gap then the trucks had to hit the brakes ....

A bit of patience instead of trying to get ahead of the truck ... and you won't have to worry about the big nasty truck swerving to try and block off twits trying to squeeze up the merge to get in front... 5 min delay vs hours insurance claiming, fixing, complaining about it on the net... seems easy decision....for next time that is.

So causing a trucky to slam on their brakes, even with enough room to stop, justifies reckless driving? As you said, that vehicle would struggle stopping within 20mtrs travelling 2 kph, but its ok for one swerving around at full speed... We need more people like you.. :goodjob:

What I did wasn't reckless I was waaay in front of the truckie and traffic was bumper to bumper and he was 20mtrs behind in the middle lane crawling, and i mean crawling, took him about a good minute just to reach me after that, and was only cause of traffic he kept up with me later with his rants...

[exwrx]

Did he have a company logo on the truck?

The police might not care, but I am sure his employer would be interested if one of their drivers was being an arse on the road...

[Woteva]

Want to piss off a truckie? Overtake on the left. You're probably the 100th person that has done that to him today. Guess he's had enough and decided to take matters into his own hands. So glad I don't do metro! :)

[Irish]

Want to piss off a truckie? Overtake on the left. You're probably the 100th person that has done that to him today. Guess he's had enough and decided to take matters into his own hands. So glad I don't do metro! :)

Why would overtaking him on the left be a problem? He was on a multilane arterial and was within his rights to drive in his lane without somebody swerving into it.

I often find truckies are good drivers, the only time they wind me up is when they go into the right hand land and sit there. If they want to go slow what is wrong with the lanes to the left of that?

[matthewfnorbert]

police! go see them.

my wife was swerved at a number of times by a truck forcing her into inside breakdown lane, we don't know why he was upset it was a straight road and were at the speed limit (110km/h) in middle lane.

we got trailer plate, police tracked him down via trailer owner, trucking company, his boss. :goodjob: boss tried to 'cover' for him and police said "mate we will not let this go, you might as well tell us who he is now" :goodjob:

[VX2VESS]

police! go see them.

my wife was swerved at a number of times by a truck forcing her into inside breakdown lane, we don't know why he was upset it was a straight road and were at the speed limit (110km/h) in middle lane.

we got trailer plate, police tracked him down via trailer owner, trucking company, his boss. :goodjob: boss tried to 'cover' for him and police said "mate we will not let this go, you might as well tell us who he is now" :goodjob:
damn you mean they actually did something on yours and didn't get the fob off..

[LooneyR8]

I was recently helping a friend move from Ballarat to Melbourne so we borrowed a truck from a previous employer.

We were just before the Deer Park bypass and I had been in the right hand lane sitting on the speed limit and realise that there were a few cars behind me so I did the right thing and went to move into the left lane.

I indicated and went to move and my mate said to me to change, there is a car beside your door.....

A girl driving a Camry with her male friend in the passenger seat were sitting in my blind spot and I couldnt see them for love or money.......

Had my friend not seen them I would have run them over easily and possibly killed them....

I am not justifying anything but sometimes after a long day driving 20tonnes of truck people have to realise that when a truck hits you then game over....

And yes...there are truckies out there that are absolute ****wits..... But the majority are like you and me.....just trying to get a job done.

[matthewfnorbert]

damn you mean they actually did something on yours and didn't get the fob off..

yes, they were very good. might have been a slow day lol.

[Woteva]

Why would overtaking him on the left be a problem? He was on a multilane arterial and was within his rights to drive in his lane without somebody swerving into it.

I often find truckies are good drivers, the only time they wind me up is when they go into the right hand land and sit there. If they want to go slow what is wrong with the lanes to the left of that?

Never driven a truck have you... :jester:

This is kind of what happens when you scream up the left hand side of a truck then dive in front.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/10111882/mad-max-moments/

[seldo]

My daughter was attacked like this recently.
Came up the merging lane and pulled infront of a truck who was idling along at about 2kph and 30m away. She was stationary for about 40 secs when the truck just drove into her deliberately doing about $5000 damage. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "You were in the merging lane and I didn't see you... Call the cops if you like." Smart arse.
And of course, he was certainly legally in the right - she was technically merging into his lane even though she'd been stationary 40 secs.
I told her to put it down to experience, and learn from it...

[chunkyvy]

I had this happen to me a few years ago. I was going past a slow truck up a hill, just as I got up beside him he veered right across into my lane. I ran off into centre grass area. When I caught up to him he was flipping me off and abusing me, wtf !!!
10 ks down road we hit first set of lights, with him still abusing me, So i gets out of car, and he wouldnt get out of his truck. So I modified his red suzie coil line to trailer. Brakes stuck on, good bye dickhead. lol

[smokey777]

I agree with you debencha but its a little bit different when traffic is moving at a maximum 5km/h on the M4 at around 8AM and you have an irrate truck driver swerving at the merging lane to stop cars who have every right to be travelling in from getting in front of him......



see it think half the problem is there are so many MORONS in the merging lane nowdays traffic is crawling as you say but they always come down the merging lane flatout just to push as far forward up the line as they think they deserve. i can see why people close up gaps (i do if its a flatout moron) if i was a truck driver i wouldnt swerve but be over enough to block lol. people just dont give room to trucks at all it would be annoying.

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

I find it ridiculous that the police will pay someone a visit on the call from an anonomous tip saying they were doing burnouts on a deserted street but won't go pay a visit to a person using a 20t truck as a weapon reported by the victim in person with witness accounts and details. I really do try to respect the boys in blue but stuff like that really makes my blood boil and is just an indication of laziness and can't be arsed attitude.

I would bet my house that if that truck driver hit a police vehicle he would most likely be up for attempted murder!

[CLUBRED]

I'd take it to his employer, you have a witness thats gold, no one stops these days.

Dunno what it is with police and truck drivers. Last time I was pulled up for a TIN he told me he would have let me go if there was a truck around ???? He must have meant a bigger one because I got done over taking a flat bed with hay bales on it. My 2 year old (who loves trucks and buses generally) gets a little upset when a truck barrels passed on the motorways, I get nervous a bit especially if the wind pushes them over my way.

[BECAUZ]

Not sure who his employer is, no marking's on the truck. I spoke to the witness and her husband last night and to say the least he was pissed off a truck driver was trying to take out his wife.

He's insisting on taking it further if the police cant do anything about it i.e appraoching ACA/today tonight which I'm not to keen about....

[Soopy]

Not sure who his employer is, no marking's on the truck. I spoke to the witness and her husband last night and to say the least he was pissed off a truck driver was trying to take out his wife.

He's insisting on taking it further if the police cant do anything about it i.e appraoching ACA/today tonight which I'm not to keen about....

ACA isn't going to do f*ck all about it, they'll just make some half arsed segment and the push to have all trucks banned. As is their style.

[QldKev]

Never driven a truck have you... :jester:

This is kind of what happens when you scream up the left hand side of a truck then dive in front.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/10111882/mad-max-moments/

lol, that lady cut directly in front of the truck, what stupidity, is she seriously mental?

I can see why the truck driven road raged

QldKev

[Paleface]

I used to hate merging lanes that weren’t part of motorway on ramps. Had a bloke in big 4x4 ute and trailer speed down a merging lane on the M1 at Nerang and try to bully me to let him in. I refuse to be bullied so this bloke threw his half eaten at the car. I was in mother in law’s Mazda 3 with my two kids in the back, traffic stopped completely up ahead, bully is now behind me. I leave vehicle to give him some valuable information on Queensland road rules regarding merging and he went to water.
The worst merging problem near me is the west bound traffic (Hooker Blvd/Gooding drv) at the big Carrara roundabout, 2 lanes become 3 about 400 metres before r/about then back to 2 lanes 20 metres from r/about. I think it might be for the buses to enter and leave the bus stop smoothly. Every morning I would take my daughter to school using the left lane to go straight through, traffic turning right using right lane. Morons who should set their alarm clocks 10 mins earlier speed down the merging lane and push their way into the left lane making those doing the right thing have to wait even longer. I got fed up with this after a few weeks so would move over into merging lane but maintain the crawling speed of the other lanes. Morons would get cranky. Once a big pacific islander got out and strode up to me, I saw him in my mirrors so got out too, luckily by the time he had walked 20 metres he was puffing like an asthmatic but still threatening to knock me out. I said “You’ll have to catch me first then what are you gonna do? Sit on me? Get back in your car and wait your turn like everyone else”. He eventually got back in his car with no violence inflicted.
I now avoid that roundabout in the mornings and use Markeri st. But I still hate bullies and will front them every time, they will always back down, it’s in their nature.
The rules in QLD re merging are “Marked lanes- vehicle in merging lane gives way to vehicles in continuing lane. Unmarked lanes, ie: wide road becomes narrower vehicle ahead has right of way.

[hRTHSV]

lol, that lady cut directly in front of the truck, what stupidity, is she seriously mental?

I can see why the truck driven road raged

QldKev

Yes what she did was stupid and she should be prosecuted accordingly for cutting him off but what he did was worse. Check from 1:03 to about the 1:30 mark, he could see her car.

The problem is everyone is in such a big hurry, no one wants to wait 5 seconds, the difference is when you are driving 42,500kg's or more the outcome can be devistating, and the truck driver is supposed to be a professional driver. Plenty are but plenty aren't as well.

[CLUBRED]

I can see why the truck driven road raged

I reckon he just didn't see her, truckies are always feathering the throttle which explains the bumps to me. He would have seen the carnage in his mirrors though - how many people kept going.

I really hate the excuse though that "I can see over you!" as to why they travel so close.

Shouldn't be allowed to change lanes in tunnels either.

[Xjas]

It is very frustrating when driving a heavy vehicle when you leave yourself room to stop safely and people just keep pulling into the gap to get in front of you, also amazing the the lenghts some car drivers will go to to get in front of a truck because they'll get to there destination a bit sooner but that is no excuse for this type of behaviour, truck drivers are professional drivers and should act accordingly.
In most cases going to his boss would be of little help, employers in the industry a having such a hard time getting drivers that a driver has to f### up pretty bad to get sacked, this problem is only getting worse too, the fact is the job is too hard for how little it pays.
You best bet would be to ring the cops when something like this happens and say you thought the driver smelt like booze or you could see him holding a beer can, then they will be straight on it.

[SASLS1]

Another for going to cops.

I had one TNT truck tailgate me all the way to work after I went into his lane. He was crawling at 2ks and had a gap of about 20mtrs infront so I went infront of him and he wouldn't stop beeping and highbeaming...

My old man and bro-in-law are truckies so I have every respect for them, but there are a few out there that make everyone else look bad.

You'll notice a lot of trucks, while crawling along in bumper to bumper traffic, leave a large gap in front of them so that they can idle along in gear, without having to be on and off the clutch every second. As the traffic starts and stops every 10 seconds, they can just keep idling along without stopping and the large gap compensates for this.

Then you come along and see this large gap as an open invitation to change lanes and "Save Time". You don't save any time, you just piss the truck driver off, and make him have to stop.

Thats why he would have been beeping and highbeaming you. Its not rocket science...

I'm not a truck driver, but I drive a manual car and do the same thing in heavy traffic, with leaving a gap and idling along. Its works really well most of the time.....

[BanPC]

Yeah it's called momentum... you like to keep it rolling even if it is just a crawl... but hey it's 20meters!!! Gotta get 20 meters in front of where I was!!!

If you deducted $1 for a truck driver doing the wrong thing from a $1 for every ignorant car/caravan drivers antics you would still be a rich man....

[ssv402]

I drive trucks for a living, and if I see any trouble ahead such as an aggressive driver I simply keep my distance or pull over, if the worst thing that happens to me is being cut off then thats a good day and it is far from worth going off the tree at.

Nothing on the road is really worth going off at, sure we can get angry at other drivers, but its only when you let that anger out in your actions that its a problem. Things are much more relaxing if you can control yourself at least, let the silly ones go on their way.

It is a huge problem at the amount of impatient drivers these days though, just this morning I had two very close near misses within 2 minutes, I was just glad nothing happened but still, is it really necessary to fly up the side of a truck in a work site merging lane literally at its end, with no room for error and then swipe across to the opposite lane less than a metre off of my front, same with the person who thought to change lanes without indicating about the same 1 or 2 metres off the front after speeding up just to do that!

Then again some truck drivers are just plain silly, I had one 'US transport' truck yesterday sitting about 3 metres off the back of my truck when I was loaded up to 500kg shy of legal because I dared to do 90kmh which is the speed limit up majura road here, all I could do was put on cruise control and just keep plodding along. When we got to the end he almost clipped the back of my truck at the maccas roundabout to get past and then cut the line trying to cut my path for some reason. The same bloke then proceeded to try to run a car off the road at the merging lane heading towards fyshwick at the top of the monaro highway because a mazda 3 went to go up the side a bit late.

Just why people think its necessary is beyond me. Just says alot about some people. As long as Im still here I am happy, its just some things I notice that makes me think, 'whats the point,why?! No ones perfect, we all have to share the road and forgive others for the same mistakes I am sure we have all made at some point.'

The biggest thing people can do to stop accidents is if you see trouble, stay away, keep your distance, even if it costs you a few minutes. Patience will pay for itself in more than just cost.

End rant :)

[BECAUZ]

I drive trucks for a living, and if I see any trouble ahead such as an aggressive driver I simply keep my distance or pull over, if the worst thing that happens to me is being cut off then thats a good day and it is far from worth going off the tree at.

Nothing on the road is really worth going off at, sure we can get angry at other drivers, but its only when you let that anger out in your actions that its a problem. Things are much more relaxing if you can control yourself at least, let the silly ones go on their way.

It is a huge problem at the amount of impatient drivers these days though, just this morning I had two very close near misses within 2 minutes, I was just glad nothing happened but still, is it really necessary to fly up the side of a truck in a work site merging lane literally at its end, with no room for error and then swipe across to the opposite lane less than a metre off of my front, same with the person who thought to change lanes without indicating about the same 1 or 2 metres off the front after speeding up just to do that!

Then again some truck drivers are just plain silly, I had one 'US transport' truck yesterday sitting about 3 metres off the back of my truck when I was loaded up to 500kg shy of legal because I dared to do 90kmh which is the speed limit up majura road here, all I could do was put on cruise control and just keep plodding along. When we got to the end he almost clipped the back of my truck at the maccas roundabout to get past and then cut the line trying to cut my path for some reason. The same bloke then proceeded to try to run a car off the road at the merging lane heading towards fyshwick at the top of the monaro highway because a mazda 3 went to go up the side a bit late.

Just why people think its necessary is beyond me. Just says alot about some people. As long as Im still here I am happy, its just some things I notice that makes me think, 'whats the point,why?! No ones perfect, we all have to share the road and forgive others for the same mistakes I am sure we have all made at some point.'

The biggest thing people can do to stop accidents is if you see trouble, stay away, keep your distance, even if it costs you a few minutes. Patience will pay for itself in more than just cost.

End rant :)

:goodjob: now to get this message out to people.....

[daoutlawz]

It just demonstrates that our roads(most metro freeways) aren't capable of handling the amount of traffic that goes through it everyday, hence the frustration throughout...

Still doesn't justify potentially killing people just cause you 'had a bad day'...

[ssv402]

It just demonstrates that our roads(most metro freeways) aren't capable of handling the amount of traffic that goes through it everyday, hence the frustration throughout...

Still doesn't justify potentially killing people just cause you 'had a bad day'...

Very true! The way merging lanes are currently will surely have to change in the coming years because of the poor and selfish driving standard that has been allowed to develop, if not just purely to fix driver frustration, but to create better flow.

What you have said about bad days is probably the main reason to stay away from crazies on the road, because they are most likely having a bad day and are almost certainly going to let it out on the first person that bites to their behaviour unfortunately.

[vy2lx8]

Best practice for trucks on any road I have ever seen was when traveling in Europe, most notably France. By law trucks must drive in the outside lane and have flashing lights on the roof. This was absolutely fantastic when traveling around some parts with windy roads through hills where all the trucks were lined up behind each other traveling only as fast as the fastest truck was allowing the inside lane free for other motorists to drive at a normal speed without the need for any rage. I'm sure some of the truckies with more powerful truck sometimes get the irrits but traffic is MUCH smoother.
The trucking companies allow for this in their scheduling.
It really irritates me to see trucks traveling in the right hand lane without a reason, if they have to slow down they take a lot longer to get going again than most vehicle on the road. Even more annoying is when you are at the traffic lights and there are trucks in all 3 or 4 lanes, all take off at the same speed (slow) let nobody past and pull up at the next set and repeat the process. Ie princess hwy, the Frankston freeway, nepean hwy. I don't mind driving but there are plenty of other things I would prefer to be doing with my time.
We need to change the law to change poor truck driver habits. That said not all truckies are like that, there are many on the road who are courteous and will allow you to pass and even some who don't pull out in front of you because they know you will stop!
End rant

[Irish]

Never driven a truck have you... :jester:

This is kind of what happens when you scream up the left hand side of a truck then dive in front.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/10111882/mad-max-moments/

That is a different situation mate. Those people are cutting the trucks off. I often pass them on the left because they refuse to move over when there is space. I then pass them and move back in a fair way ahead as there is nothing infront of them, they are just too lazy to move over. At the times I am driving there is not a lot of traffic, but there are often a few rolling road blocks where all lanes are occupied by people under speed.

[Woteva]

That is a different situation mate. Those people are cutting the trucks off. I often pass them on the left because they refuse to move over when there is space. I then pass them and move back in a fair way ahead as there is nothing infront of them, they are just too lazy to move over. At the times I am driving there is not a lot of traffic, but there are often a few rolling road blocks where all lanes are occupied by people under speed.

Come on... I'm referring to when cars fly up the left hand lane as it merges just to get in front of the truck. Then they hit the skids because of traffic. Trucks (or anyone else for that matter) hogging the right hand lane is a different subject altogether. Like I said, best way to piss off a truckie.

[dazzrael]

call up and say he dropped a cigarette out the window, he'll get a fine in the mail! least thats something

[smokey777]

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/smokeybigpond/funny-car-photos-simple-fact-infographic-comic-how-it-is.jpg

[stig]

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/smokeybigpond/funny-car-photos-simple-fact-infographic-comic-how-it-is.jpg

Ha, love the illustration, completely agree with it too.

[Irish]

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/smokeybigpond/funny-car-photos-simple-fact-infographic-comic-how-it-is.jpg

If all traffic is slow everyone should only merge at the end of the finishing lane. It creates the zipper effect and cars go 1 for 1. If someone merges early on and expects people to all merge behind him it isn't going to work. On some brisbane roads they have installed bollards to force drivers to the end of the lane for more seemless merging.

[BECAUZ]

If all traffic is slow everyone should only merge at the end of the finishing lane. It creates the zipper effect and cars go 1 for 1. If someone merges early on and expects people to all merge behind him it isn't going to work. On some brisbane roads they have installed bollards to force drivers to the end of the lane for more seemless merging.

Which was the whole issue in the first place. Mr Truck driver didn't like that people were actually doing this.

Insurance rang me today and have confirmed that once they receive the statement from the witness my excess will be nil. Police are yet to contact me.... Let's see if they do

[Paleface]

Can’t believe it, it happened again last night.:vpo: I was driving to work tooling along with the rest of the traffic, in my wife’s Honda CRV -these blokes pick their targets- when this idiot in a tradie’s Hi-Ace speeds down the inside, gets 3/4s of a car length in front, brakes heavily, indicates and moves over, forcing me to brake or he would hit my front left quarter. I blast the horn and flash to express my annoyance which prompts him to brake then speed up, I toot and flash, he brakes again. This happens a couple more time before the intersection. Of course he doesn’t stop and get out! He is going straight, I’m going left, as I get beside him, he swerves at me so close his mirror clips mine. What is it with these clowns? What goes on in their brain? The Gold Coast being the way it is lately they’ll upset the wrong person one day and it may not end well for them.:biggun:

[itsagixa]

adelaide drivers get their licenses out of weetbix boxes

[ssv402]

Was the truck driver by any chance from an islander background? Cos i saw such incident on the GWH.

Some people you cant even blink at, while cross eyed, and being actually blind, and looking in another direction, in camo, and its some how a challenge to duel.

[debencha]

"Not only did he swerve at two cars before me "


mmm at 5 kph and you saw him swerve at 2 cars before you?


"i don't agree with his actions "

,but you kept on going?


i believe there may be a lesson for all in all this

"give truck drivers room "

or send any frieght you can by rail

[BECAUZ]

"Not only did he swerve at two cars before me "


mmm at 5 kph and you saw him swerve at 2 cars before you?


"i don't agree with his actions "

,but you kept on going?


i believe there may be a lesson for all in all this

"give truck drivers room "

or send any frieght you can by rail

Something has been learnt. Next time instead of pulling him out of the cabin, I'll be getting in the cabin because thats somewhere no one will see me smacking his head.

As for him requiring extra room, no he didn't. I have my heavy vehicles license. What he was doing was callous especially when i noticed how terrified the woman was.

The truck driver needed to learn a lesson and i can almost guarantee he will, one way or another....

[hRTHSV]

I'll give a good example of slow drivers not being courteous. Now I'm not picking on trucks here because caravans do exactly the same thing. I quite often drive the road from Grafton to Glen Innes which crosses the Great Dividing Range and have been driving this road for 20 years.

After funnily enough reading this thread, on Friday afternoon I picked the kids up from school and headed west across the road in question to pick up some puppies for the kids. I was in a VR V6 having left all the good cars at home because of the poor road. I caught two B-Doubles who were down to 20 and 30km/h climbing hills, no drama, the problem is as soons as they reach the top they begin to speed up quickly and as you head down hill and get a broken centre line to O/T they are doing 60 and acclerating quickly, and reaching 110 down hill I sat behind for a little but didn't want to be stuck there for the next 50km. Now this is a relatively quiet road which I know well, but I had to pull some pretty big speeds to pass these blokes safely. In situations like this with a car looking to O/T if they just didn't accelerate so quickly down the hill, people could O/T and it would be much safer.

Once you get on the Great diving Range proper I caught another truck doing 20 - 40km/h in a 100 area, now it's nearly 18km up hill with basically no overtaking. There is a number of areas where trucks and caravans can drive into whilst still keeping rolling and allow cars to go past. But no not these days. Once upon a time this used to happen but not anymore.

I quite often see people get frustrated and do stupid things in these situations and if you me or anyone was coming the other way over the crest or around the blind corner it'd be a huge hit. Just lucky the road is pretty quite.

All this could be prevented with a bit of common courteousy, but there's not much of that around these days on the road.

[RARASV8]

being a truck driver i can see where your all coming from.
my truck normally takes a full load of crushed rock and goes out the weighbridge most often 45000 kg's. i have 450 hp. your cars have around 200 hp to over 400 hp, in cars that weigh 1200 kg's to 1900 kg's. my tuck has 10 for every 1000 kg's and the cars have around 130 hp/1000 kg's, so try driving your cars around with 20 hp engines!
i start off every morning being very courteous, but after 100 people taking my comfort zone (leaving the gap) and pulling out in front accelerating fast to get in front and then slamming the brakes on just to get in front of "THE TRUCK", slowing up for the traffic lights only to have my comfort zone deminish by all the courteous car drivers, i finally start to get annoyed and make it a bit harder for the car to get pass, just so as i can keep my momentum moving and as not to have to stop and accelerate using all of my enormus horsepower from a standing start. remembering that i have a place to get too aswell:lmao: and at the end of the day all my patience has been worn out watching all the dickheads in cars weaving in and out of traffic to gain 1 car length but put their own lives and others at risk. yes it's hard being behind 2 trucks sitting side by side as 1 slowly passes the other, but hey it's alright for the faster cars to pass the slower trucks but not for the faster truck to pass the slower truck! be patient and all goes well, but be impatient and become a statistic. remember trucks are speed limited, and if you get annoyed because you can't pass the truck, how do you think the trucky feels when it can take upto a few k's to pass on the highway. but thats right the cars have the right of using the roads and the trucks are there just so as to hold you up from getting to work and home to have a beer in the couch watching the plasma that just turned up on the front door step ammazingly.
share the road! don't think that it's your road but share. it's amazing how a little wave goes along way.
:soap:

Garry

[OLDYELLA65]

All the suburban stuff is understandable from a Truckies side..
....but then all that SAFETY and do you realize how long it takes to stop my truck)...goes out the window when the trucks on a free running roadway sit 1 car length or less off the back of a car especially if the truck wants to take a runup at a hill..this is not isolated and happens just as much as the car cutting in on a truck.
Just yesterday I saw a K104 with prob a 60tonne load doing just that menacing a family towing a caravan up the BIG ROAD.....I had words with the PRICK :argue:at Tarcutta to his credit he apologised to the Family whom happened to stop there as well.

[Irish]

being a truck driver i can see where your all coming from.
my truck normally takes a full load of crushed rock and goes out the weighbridge most often 45000 kg's. i have 450 hp. your cars have around 200 hp to over 400 hp, in cars that weigh 1200 kg's to 1900 kg's. my tuck has 10 for every 1000 kg's and the cars have around 130 hp/1000 kg's, so try driving your cars around with 20 hp engines!
i start off every morning being very courteous, but after 100 people taking my comfort zone (leaving the gap) and pulling out in front accelerating fast to get in front and then slamming the brakes on just to get in front of "THE TRUCK", slowing up for the traffic lights only to have my comfort zone deminish by all the courteous car drivers, i finally start to get annoyed and make it a bit harder for the car to get pass, just so as i can keep my momentum moving and as not to have to stop and accelerate using all of my enormus horsepower from a standing start. remembering that i have a place to get too aswell:lmao: and at the end of the day all my patience has been worn out watching all the dickheads in cars weaving in and out of traffic to gain 1 car length but put their own lives and others at risk. yes it's hard being behind 2 trucks sitting side by side as 1 slowly passes the other, but hey it's alright for the faster cars to pass the slower trucks but not for the faster truck to pass the slower truck! be patient and all goes well, but be impatient and become a statistic. remember trucks are speed limited, and if you get annoyed because you can't pass the truck, how do you think the trucky feels when it can take upto a few k's to pass on the highway. but thats right the cars have the right of using the roads and the trucks are there just so as to hold you up from getting to work and home to have a beer in the couch watching the plasma that just turned up on the front door step ammazingly.
share the road! don't think that it's your road but share. it's amazing how a little wave goes along way.
:soap:

Garry

You state cars take risks to achieve 1 car length but then believe it is alright to take 2 k's to overtake 1 other vehicle whilst holding up everything else?

[QldKev]

Here I fixed it



http://home.exetel.com.au/qldkev/pics/funny-car-photos-simple-fact-infographic-comic-how-it-is.jpg

[ve-wagon]

Here I fixed it




Nice work,


Road Rules 2008
Current version for 22 October 2010 to date (accessed 11 September 2011 at 16:22)
Part 11Division 4Rule 149


149 Giving way when lines of traffic merge into a single line of traffic

A driver in a line of traffic that is merging with one or more lines of traffic travelling in the same direction as the driver must give way to a vehicle in another line of traffic if any part of the vehicle is ahead of the driver’s vehicle.


Taken from www dot legislation dot nsw dot gov dot au

[daoutlawz]

If all traffic is slow everyone should only merge at the end of the finishing lane. It creates the zipper effect and cars go 1 for 1. If someone merges early on and expects people to all merge behind him it isn't going to work. On some brisbane roads they have installed bollards to force drivers to the end of the lane for more seemless merging.

Exactly right, its the reason they made them like that, if everyone just banked up in the left all the way, there would be multiple bottlenecks throughout, and all in the left.

I still dont believe we should have any of these at all, all lanes should be throughout, merging is the reason for bottlenecks, and when 'added lanes' are added later, people don't use them.

4 lane freeways should be minimum in every metro area, 4 lanes throughout the whole freeway, with the ability to add more later on. All of the current freeways are from bad planning and approvals.

[Paleface]

Taken from Queensland Transport website;
1. On roads where there are lanes marked on the road, if your lane comes to an end, you must give way to traffic already in the lane you are moving to. In the image to the right, Vehicle A (blue) must give way to Vehicle B (green).
2. On roads where there are no lanes marked on the road, when lines of traffic merge, you must give way to any vehicle that is ahead of you. In the image to the right, Vehicle B (green) must give way to Vehicle A (blue).

Not enough posts yet to and links but if you google QLD road rules, then use their search to find "merging" its all there.
I have no problem with the "zipper" technique, but when people scream down the inside and try to force their way in then they are the "A$$hole in my book. It should be all about courtesy and waiting your turn

[Irish]

Exactly right, its the reason they made them like that, if everyone just banked up in the left all the way, there would be multiple bottlenecks throughout, and all in the left.

I still dont believe we should have any of these at all, all lanes should be throughout, merging is the reason for bottlenecks, and when 'added lanes' are added later, people don't use them.

4 lane freeways should be minimum in every metro area, 4 lanes throughout the whole freeway, with the ability to add more later on. All of the current freeways are from bad planning and approvals.

It is from governments not wanting to spend decent money on doing something right in the first place, and thus making their budget look better. I believe there should be a certain percentage of revenue set aside each year so that big projects can be done properly, and the projects not started by a political party simply seeking 3 years in office.

[smokey777]

Here I fixed it



http://home.exetel.com.au/qldkev/pics/funny-car-photos-simple-fact-infographic-comic-how-it-is.jpg

fixed again ;) this is what most people do

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/smokeybigpond/fixedagain.jpg

[Docka83]

Taken from Queensland Transport website;
1. On roads where there are lanes marked on the road, if your lane comes to an end, you must give way to traffic already in the lane you are moving to. In the image to the right, Vehicle A (blue) must give way to Vehicle B (green).
2. On roads where there are no lanes marked on the road, when lines of traffic merge, you must give way to any vehicle that is ahead of you. In the image to the right, Vehicle B (green) must give way to Vehicle A (blue).

Not enough posts yet to and links but if you google QLD road rules, then use their search to find "merging" its all there.
I have no problem with the "zipper" technique, but when people scream down the inside and try to force their way in then they are the "A$$hole in my book. It should be all about courtesy and waiting your turn

I'm hearing you but arseholes that do not let people merge in on ramps need a touch up. It's a 2 way street. Just because they've been stuck in traffic up until that point doesn't mean punishing everyone else. Not to politicize this thread but at the end of the day we've all been let down by state and the federal government, labor or liberal. Roads around the gold coast for example are atrocious and it's continual patch work and they are now playing catch up with upgrading.

I had friends visit from Japan recently and they were shocked when I told them I was driving on one of our main national highways (Pacific), 2 lanes, unlit, dangerously windy and had undulations and pot holes that would swallow my ute no worries.

If I ever become PM I will be creating a world class road network not some draconian 2 lane carpark.

[Paleface]

Smokey777 - Agree 100% a picture tells a thousand words:D

Docka 83 - Agree 100% The intelligent drivers (cars, bikes and trucks) will even move into the right lane if its clear to let cars on the on ramp in.