4L65E - Which transmission deep pan

[chocco]

The money I saved by doing the tranny cooler myself I am putting towards a deep pan before I get the auto serviced and flushed.

Has anyone used any of the following and can comment on the quality.

Cheers

Mag Hytec - $280 delivered

http://www.mag-hytec.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=39&zenid=fb23a8d2179511ec97721b12be4f9e98

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TCI - Similar to Mag Hytec - $ ??????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TCI-Aluminum-Transmission-Pan-GM-4L60E-Deep-3-Qt-378015-/370549093645?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564672750d

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3WdDOddWhIU/TpQGhD3XzgI/AAAAAAAAAS8/aDMYJa59EqA/s435/600-378015.jpg

B&M - $ 300 therabouts

http://bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/Cast-Aluminum-Deep-Pans/Cast-Aluminum-Deep-Pans-GM-4L60E-4L60-adds-3-qt-

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[dogsballs]

there is something niggling at the back of mind about the shape of those compared to normal, but i seriously have no idea (or mind is playing tricks).

btw, you should be able to service it yourself. drop the pan, new filter/gasket something like $50 from repco. flush the fluid you can pop a cooler hose at front, drain into bucket and suck/pull from new fluid till clear/clean.

[IJ.]

Are you going to take this offroad at all Marc?

[chocco]

Are you going to take this offroad at all Marc?

Nope, just want the extra cooling.

[IJ.]

Nope, just want the extra cooling.

The B&M comes with a Filter extension kit, I'd choose it for that reason, the other 2 look to be identical and no extension...

[A PSYCHO]

My trans builder told me alot of these aftermarket pans hang far too low in his opinion, and would greatly increase the risk of damaging the box where ever you might normally 'bottom out' ect. The Mag Hytec appears to hold 3.3 quarts more than standard, as apposed to the other two holding an extra 3. (for reference 1 quart = 0.94L, call it 1=1 for arguments sake). Thats a decent amount more. Enough to make me worry about smashing the pan on anything and everything.

How much lower are these items in comparison to the standard pans? Anyone got pics of either of these aftermarket pans fitted?

[IJ.]

My trans builder told me alot of these aftermarket pans hang far too low in his opinion, and would greatly increase the risk of damaging the box where ever you might normally 'bottom out' ect. The Mag Hytec appears to hold 3.3 quarts more than standard, as apposed to the other two holding an extra 3. (for reference 1 quart = 0.94L, call it 1=1 for arguments sake). Thats a decent amount more. Enough to make me worry about smashing the pan on anything and everything.

How much lower are these items in comparison to the standard pans? Anyone got pics of either of these aftermarket pans fitted?

Valid point in a Sedan, Coupe or 2wd Ute but Marc owns a Cross8 Crewman so could hang a 44 gallon drum under there ;)

[chocco]

The TCI and Mag both use a O-ring instead of gasket which could be a pain if you have to order spares from the states and the BM just uses a plain old gasket.

Need to confirm but I think the reason the TCI/Mag doesnt have a extension is because you have to use their filter, will confirm this tomorrow.

They both have their for's and against's, but the TCI/Mag is BLACK, and you know what they say, once you have had black there aint no going back !

[IJ.]

The TCI and Mag both use a O-ring instead of gasket which could be a pain if you have to order spares from the states and the BM just uses a plain old gasket.

Need to confirm but I think the reason the TCI/Mag doesnt have a extension is because you have to use their filter, will confirm this tomorrow.

They both have their for's and against's, but the TCI/Mag is BLACK, and you know what they say, once you have had black there aint no going back !

Getting a quote today on the B&M from a local supplier, Holden filters/Gaskets are dirt cheap and locally available, So is Satin Black paint ;)

[IJ.]

$295, should be here soonish.

Can be had cheaper in the USA but then the shipping brings it to close to the same price.
(bought a can of black wrinkle in Melbourne today)

[Mad Dog]

I have the B&M too. Also was told they are somewhat risky and a story about someone knocking off the drain plug in the middle of nowhere.
Ive never had a problem and my cars somewhat a little low with some Kings SL springs. But my cat flanges usually provide some warning.

One thing ive wanted to do was to get a second drain plug bolt and send it off to mainlube to get a magnet put in it. If you get the chance can you see what bolt size/thread etc it is so I can get one. Bit hard to take it down to specialty fastners to get another when its holding the trans fluid in.

[A PSYCHO]

I have the B&M too. Also was told they are somewhat risky and a story about someone knocking off the drain plug in the middle of nowhere.
Ive never had a problem and my cars somewhat a little low with some Kings SL springs. But my cat flanges usually provide some warning.

One thing ive wanted to do was to get a second drain plug bolt and send it off to mainlube to get a magnet put in it. If you get the chance can you see what bolt size/thread etc it is so I can get one. Bit hard to take it down to specialty fastners to get another when its holding the trans fluid in.

any chance of getting a pic for reference on just how low it actually is?

[chocco]

Ian, where in Melbourne did you get your's, Rocket wanted $313 plus del, and Chris mills Performance $279.95 free delivery.

I like the black paint idea !!!

[IJ.]

Ian, where in Melbourne did you get your's, Rocket wanted $313 plus del, and Chris mills Performance $279.95 free delivery.

I like the black paint idea !!!

From Rocket ;)

[inky]

[QUOTE=Mad Dog;1955344]I have the B&M too. Also was told they are somewhat risky and a story about someone knocking off the drain plug in the middle of nowhere.
Ive never had a problem and my cars somewhat a little low with some Kings SL springs. But my cat flanges usually provide some warning.

One thing ive wanted to do was to get a second drain plug bolt and send it off to mainlube to get a magnet put in it. If you get the chance can you see what bolt size/thread etc it is so I can get one. Bit hard to take it down to specialty fastners to get another when its holding the trans fluid in.[/QUOTE

U could always just put a rare earth magnet on bottom of sump plug.
Alot of blokes I know do it on there motorbikes and swear by it

[IJ.]

Just going to epoxy a few magnets inside mine before I fit it.

[chocco]

Chris Mills $279.95 gets the nodd then, you know someone at Rocket whats with the $313.00 and the $297.00

[IJ.]

Chris Mills $279.95 gets the nodd then, you know someone at Rocket whats with the $313.00 and the $297.00

I've bought a bit of stuff there in the past, not really enough to get any special treatment though.

[chocco]

I've bought a bit of stuff there in the past, not really enough to get any special treatment though.


Just ordered my pan from CMP, $279.95 delivered. Just gotta organise the auto service and flushing now after the springs are done next week before cup weekend.

[chocco]

Just going to epoxy a few magnets inside mine before I fit it.


It comes with a magnetic plug or you chucking in extras

[IJ.]

It comes with a magnetic plug or you chucking in extras

Alway throw in some extras on a fresh Trans build as a LOT of metal escapes during the break in period.

[Mad Dog]

Dont know how useful the pics will be. Good for me sort of as I didnt realise how low my car was, how dirty underneath it is, supposed to be stainless extractors, and looks like i have a weaping seal on the steering rack.

I thought most expoxies let go with heat. Pics are taken with camera sitting on the ground.

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv305/MadDogMonaro/Monaro%20Misc/Pan1.jpg

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv305/MadDogMonaro/Monaro%20Misc/Pan2.jpg

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv305/MadDogMonaro/Monaro%20Misc/Pan3.jpg

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv305/MadDogMonaro/Monaro%20Misc/Pan4.jpg

[IJ.]

Man that's low!!

Trans doesn't get that hot (or shouldn't) Araldite "weakens" above 100c but returns to full strength when the temp drops, it only holding a magnet it's not like it's structural ;)

(if I was that concerned I think there's a pack of Devcon A here somewhere)

[A PSYCHO]

thanks heaps for the pic. Looks to be as dangerously low as i predicted. But my car being completely standard height i think i could pull it off with some common sense and precaution when tacking speed bumps/drive ways.

cheers again mad dog.

[IJ.]

thanks heaps for the pic. Looks to be as dangerously low as i predicted. But my car being completely standard height i think i could pull it off with some common sense and precaution when tacking speed bumps/drive ways.

cheers again mad dog.

I'm a bit of a chicken and will build a bash guard for mine ;)
(AWD sump hangs a bit low)

[chocco]

Car is booked in 2 weeks just before cup weekend, will log the temp going down the same freeway with the van on the back and see if the biiger pan makes much of a difference.

[IJ.]

Car is booked in 2 weeks just before cup weekend, will log the temp going down the same freeway with the van on the back and see if the biiger pan makes much of a difference.

You do realise you're more than welcome to bring it up here and do it with my help don't you?

[chocco]

You do realise you're more than welcome to bring it up here and do it with my help don't you?


Thanks Ian, but wont have the pan till next week so this weekend is out, and then the following weekend I am On Call for work again, then cup. Besides you got your'e own beast to be worriying about

Thanks for the offer though, heading up to Bendigo probably next Thursday for work anyways will drop in then if I got time, and top up your collection at the same time.


Cheers

[IJ.]

Offer is always there Marc! :)
(mine arrived today)

Most weekends we're playing around with someone's car so mine is pushed out of the way it's no problem at all.

[chocco]

For those that are interested I while speaking to Justin at Tuff Car Parts organizing a group buy for something else I mentioned to him that I just got a B&M 70260 Deep Pan, he does sell this but doesn't have them on his ebay page.

His price is, $275 delivered, to late for me but this might benefit someone else.

[XUV]

Offer is always there Marc! :)
(mine arrived today)

Most weekends we're playing around with someone's car so mine is pushed out of the way it's no problem at all.

just don't leave anything on the bench unattended or it'll get the wrinkle black treatment :buff:

[IJ.]

just don't leave anything on the bench unattended or it'll get the wrinkle black treatment :buff:

http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog182.jpg

:p

[IJ.]

I have the B&M too. Also was told they are somewhat risky and a story about someone knocking off the drain plug in the middle of nowhere.
Ive never had a problem and my cars somewhat a little low with some Kings SL springs. But my cat flanges usually provide some warning.

One thing ive wanted to do was to get a second drain plug bolt and send it off to mainlube to get a magnet put in it. If you get the chance can you see what bolt size/thread etc it is so I can get one. Bit hard to take it down to specialty fastners to get another when its holding the trans fluid in.

0 issue on the CrossTrac cars, you'll tear the Transfer case off long before you kill the pan ;)

http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog189.jpg

http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog191.jpg

[chocco]

My pan arrived today, will keep it alla natiral, will leave the black wrinkle treatment to the experts !