LS1 - 383ci stroker

[peter b]

Just thought I would share something that I am doing for a mate.
Anyways here are some pics enjoy

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[peter b]

and a few more
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[OUTAtheBloo]

I've subscribed to this thread. Will be great to see the results you get pete, got any details of the products your using. I particularly love the idea of a hi rised manifold !!

Dan

[A PSYCHO]

I've subscribed to this thread. Will be great to see the results you get pete, got any details of the products your using. I particularly love the idea of a hi rised manifold !!

Dan

x2 on all counts.

[peter b]

I've subscribed to this thread. Will be great to see the results you get pete, got any details of the products your using. I particularly love the idea of a hi rised manifold !!

Dan

Dan
What details do you want to know?
There is also a cam for it but we all know what a cam looks like by now got some numbers for you guys 246/258 0.625 lift and 113 lobe separation.
Have decked the heads 30 thou to bump comp up to 11.7:1 which is a nice and healthy mark to be for a streeter. Expect around the 330rwkw mark but torque is where I am aiming.
The manifold is nice yes there are better on the market but for what I am chasing out of it this will be more than enough. Was more a look thing mate wanted it to look old school and have filter out of the bonnet.
Heads are a genuine gm casting (799) D port head now these are nice they flow extremely well and they actually arent badly priced either
The manifold and all associated parts are all edelbrock even the rails. 4 barrell throttle body is 1000cfm 4150 style universal. Have a 1 inch spacer but that will be when it gets tuned just want to have a bit of a play and see what changes in respect of mid range etc.

[OUTAtheBloo]

Great to see an engine build thread ! :)

[peter b]

Wonder how long it will stay civil:hmmm:

[2010blackve]

Subscribed!!!!!!

Looking forward to following the progress of this engine build.

[peter b]

So far only work I have done is assemble the heads but hope to start dummy assembling tommorrow and see what needs clearancing and where due to the larger stroke. Then give it a wash and start doing my bearing clearances and start on assembly hope to have crank in atleast tomorrow.
Then once that is done most of it is pretty straight forward. I have given myself a goal and I want this done in the car and tuned before the movember cruise.
This is going in a series 2 VT it had seen better days prior to this.
It had an unknown camshaft was in the car when he purchased it but I will get it doctored. Had crappy 851 heads with single beehive springs but whoever did it changed the retainers which is good but would appear they lost one as has 15 aftermarket retainers but a single stock retainer. Prior owner didnt seem like they did regular oil changes and my mate was given a power figure of 270rwkw which going by what the car has and having a 4200 convertor and 3.9's I would suggest the figure to be highly exaggerated.
Not chasing the biggest powered LS1 just a nice weekender that can turn the tyres with ease and to go to the drags and crack an 11.

[macca33]

Looks like a very good project mate. This is more than likely the way I'll go in a couple of years, as I want to retain my ETP heads and 383ci sounds like a good displacement to be at. I know there are advantages with a 4" or larger bore, but I'd like to retain the original block if i can.

cheers

[peter b]

Looks like a very good project mate. This is more than likely the way I'll go in a couple of years, as I want to retain my ETP heads and 383ci sounds like a good displacement to be at. I know there are advantages with a 4" or larger bore, but I'd like to retain the original block if i can.

cheers

The 383ci is the under dog now as everyone goes straight to the bigger bore however when they are setup right they can be very punchy and whilst power figures don't quite match doing a L98 etc the torque that they produce destroys tyres.
My mate wanted to keep his factory block as well and whilst this isn't the cheapest as now there is much more work going into what was originally a repair and will show a photo of what happened to it.
Will have some more pics tonight as I will be able to put main studs in it damned machine shop stripped a stud so should be able to sort it out today and get started tonight.

See you in November Macca be good to put a face to the name:thumbsup:

[SSer]

... I just want one! Great to see a build thread, please keep us up to date with it!

He could have gone with the bigger bore, but theres something about a stroker (I couldnt reword that to not sound kinda dirty).

:thumbsup:

[peter b]

... I just want one! Great to see a build thread, please keep us up to date with it!

He could have gone with the bigger bore, but theres something about a stroker (I couldnt reword that to not sound kinda dirty).

:thumbsup:

What you mean your not referring to :jerk: hahaha
Initial plans were rods and pistons but the crank needs to be machined as it spun bearings and he had one of many of those ahh fark it same with the intake setup hahaha.
So yeah the engine has grown into more and more but there is nothing quite like a stroked motor to compare with standard stroke etc they drive totally different. Is going to be one cranky VT

[jca]

Hi peter, this build looks familiar?.

[Black_vtss]

It's gonna be one mean stroker!! I'm very keen to see the results.



Dan
What details do you want to know?
There is also a cam for it but we all know what a cam looks like by now got some numbers for you guys 246/258 0.625 lift and 113 lobe separation.
Have decked the heads 30 thou to bump comp up to 11.7:1 which is a nice and healthy mark to be for a streeter. Expect around the 330rwkw mark but torque is where I am aiming.
The manifold is nice yes there are better on the market but for what I am chasing out of it this will be more than enough. Was more a look thing mate wanted it to look old school and have filter out of the bonnet.
Heads are a genuine gm casting (799) D port head now these are nice they flow extremely well and they actually arent badly priced either
The manifold and all associated parts are all edelbrock even the rails. 4 barrell throttle body is 1000cfm 4150 style universal. Have a 1 inch spacer but that will be when it gets tuned just want to have a bit of a play and see what changes in respect of mid range etc.

[DNO-55]

Mmmmmm 383 subscribed!

Good luck mate

[peter b]

Hi peter, this build looks familiar?.

It does doesn't it Jason lol yep it the one I was talking to you about.
Just started dummying it up with crank and 2 rods and pistons and marked the block where the rod bolts come in contact so now in the process of clearancing. Not much fun when it is too late at night to use the air compressor and die grinder.
There goes one drill was already flogged I just finished it off so end result is only one cylinder clearanced but still have to tidy up a lil to get to where I am happy.
Once I have finished clearancing I want to measure the crank big and main widths and check the rod widths to ensure smooth sailing. Then start washing and assembling checking and double checking everything along the way.

[Commander_dan]

subscribed :) had thoughts of doing this some day

[chev]

Keep up the good work Pete:thumbsup:

[peter b]

Keep up the good work Pete:thumbsup:

Thanks Chev I do my best
Means some late nights for me oh well

[Cmycv8]

I didn't think porn was allowed on here, damn that looks nice...

Good job Peter, looking forward to seeing the results.....

See you soon... :driving:

[peter b]

I didn't think porn was allowed on here, damn that looks nice...

Good job Peter, looking forward to seeing the results.....

See you soon... :driving:

Yes Richie you will see me soon make sure you have your special sock surfing socks ready its on!!!! hahaha

[macca33]

The 383ci is the under dog now as everyone goes straight to the bigger bore however when they are setup right they can be very punchy and whilst power figures don't quite match doing a L98 etc the torque that they produce destroys tyres.
My mate wanted to keep his factory block as well and whilst this isn't the cheapest as now there is much more work going into what was originally a repair and will show a photo of what happened to it.
Will have some more pics tonight as I will be able to put main studs in it damned machine shop stripped a stud so should be able to sort it out today and get started tonight.

See you in November Macca be good to put a face to the name:thumbsup:
No worries mate, it'll be good to meet you also.

Make sure you keep the pics coming like you did with your VE thread - this type of project is what the forum is all about.

Should be a good day for all down at Chev central next month.


cheers

[Evman]

Awesome to see a good ol' engine build thread again :) Keep the pics and info coming!

[peter b]

No worries mate, it'll be good to meet you also.

Make sure you keep the pics coming like you did with your VE thread - this type of project is what the forum is all about.

Should be a good day for all down at Chev central next month.


cheers

I got bogged down last night had a meeting at work so didnt get a lot done.
What type of manifold you have in mind for yours as would be a shame to see that bonnet with a hole in it.
Tonight I will be finishing clearnancing the block and then measuring up the crank make sure everything is spot on. Yes they do go through stringent Quality Control but with everything is always best to check and double check. If everything goes well will start assembly over the weekend and pics at each stage so you can see what is involved and how far I get.

For my own car I also have to do work to on the weekend clutch is coming back out for repairs thinking is an issue with the slave cylinder spacer dont think I am getting full travel so gotta pull apart and measure it up. Sending clutch up to NPC for them to inspect and rebuild top notch service and customer support spoke to them about the issue I am having they said send it straight back and if we need to we will rebuild or replace it free of charge :goodjob:

[peter b]

Awesome to see a good ol' engine build thread again :) Keep the pics and info coming!

Yeah it is good to see this type of thread as lately it would appear that these threads are no where to be seen

[stockergts]

just finish screwing my togther the other week
im keen to see how much you get out of yours with the manifold im running the stock c4b intake at this time round

[peter b]

just finish screwing my togther the other week
im keen to see how much you get out of yours with the manifold im running the stock c4b intake at this time round

The Intake setup whilst it will make more than the factory manifold that was fitted won't produce monstrous amounts more. I have a bit of work to do to the manifold to improve it even further.
What has gone into your engine?

[stockergts]

The Intake setup whilst it will make more than the factory manifold that was fitted won't produce monstrous amounts more. I have a bit of work to do to the manifold to improve it even further.
What has gone into your engine?

theres a few pics of it being built in my thread but i got the following in her
arp stud kit bottom end,compstar stroker kit with male forged pistons,comp rockers,comp lsr cam,afr 1660 heads,studded rockers and the other bit that are normal timing cahin etc im runnung a 7 and quater race twin plate fuel system i have sitting around at home form my other car just need to get 2 more injectors

[peter b]

theres a few pics of it being built in my thread but i got the following in her
arp stud kit bottom end,compstar stroker kit with male forged pistons,comp rockers,comp lsr cam,afr 1660 heads,studded rockers and the other bit that are normal timing cahin etc im runnung a 7 and quater race twin plate fuel system i have sitting around at home form my other car just need to get 2 more injectors

Nice one keen to see the outcome.
This car will be getting complete fuel system but getting it together when I need it. Have 44lb injectors on their way for it though.
Will be getting an upside down surge tank under the car, single bosch motorsport 044 pump, aeroquip lines and pushlock fittings, reuseable fuel filter, aeromotive fuel reg (I think that is what I decided on) which will be in the engine bay for ease of adjustment. Car is Auto and has a 4200rpm stallie at the moment so want to see what it does first before any change with that is made but it should work well. Cam I am fitting is a Howards Hydraulic roller and is another one of my grinds so will be good to see how it drives.
Heads are wegner cnc ported heads with Manley stainless valves these heads out flow the 243 cnc ported heads that wegner used to do. Apparently 243's are no longer in production so they are now a rare head as it would seem.

[VYSHSV8]

So you doing similar to my fuel system and the reg placement for ease of adjustment :)

[peter b]

So you doing similar to my fuel system and the reg placement for ease of adjustment :)

Yep use factory feed as return and everything.
Fuel pressure reg bolted to the coil pack mounts and a gauge on it saves time and easy to adjust.

[VYSHSV8]

Yep use factory feed as return and everything.
Fuel pressure reg bolted to the coil pack mounts and a gauge on it saves time and easy to adjust.

You got a pic of mine haven't ya just put that up if you want to show where it's mounted etc, will have to get some more pics as soon as I put the clutch back in and finish mounting the pump

[peter b]

You got a pic of mine haven't ya just put that up if you want to show where it's mounted etc, will have to get some more pics as soon as I put the clutch back in and finish mounting the pump

I will try as soon as I get home photo is on my phone and trying to work out how to upload it

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crappy phone picture but gives an idea anyway

[VYSHSV8]

What a shot of an engine bay looks like crap lol oh shit that's my engine bay :(
An engine bay that has never been cleaned in 120+k of driving :)

And yes before anyone says anything that is a Pink water bottle top it is there to make Fish feel normal lol

[peter b]

What a shot of an engine bay looks like crap lol oh shit that's my engine bay :(
An engine bay that has never been cleaned in 120+k of driving :)

And yes before anyone says anything that is a Pink water bottle top it is there to make Fish feel normal lol

It was a photo whilst we were finishing off Drew can't make it look too pretty your wife would think there is something wrong with you...

Anyways Block is now clearanced, then washed and rechecked by dummying crank back up and 2 rod and pistons. The bolt clears by heaps now. Remember when clearancing these are all metal components and they do grow so dont just make it clear has to have at very least 50 thou clearance. But I gave it more there is heaps of alloy in the area so am not weakening it in any way. Then pulled back apart washed the crank and checked bearing clearances.. I must say I am impressed 2 thou clearance I am a happy man. Crank is in and torqued down ready for tomorrow. Start gapping rings and assemble the bottom end.

[peter b]

some more photos of progress and reason for rebuild

REASON:

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Clearance:

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Crank in:

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[peter b]

and some more pics for good luck

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[blackvussii]

Looks great. Love watching builds like this come together, keep the photos coming please.

[FLY-346]

looks pretty good so far, look forward to seeing the rest of the progress

[BigAnt]

Anyways Block is now clearanced, then washed and rechecked by dummying crank back up and 2 rod and pistons. The bolt clears by heaps now. Remember when clearancing these are all metal components and they do grow so dont just make it clear has to have at very least 50 thou clearance. But I gave it more there is heaps of alloy in the area so am not weakening it in any way. Then pulled back apart washed the crank and checked bearing clearances.. I must say I am impressed 2 thou clearance I am a happy man.

Awesome build, good to see these sorts of threads making a return! Appreciate all the pics and information, helps me understand alot more. Am I correct in thinking that "clearancing" the block its the base of the cylinder that gets worked on/ground out? And its the bolts that hold the conrod onto the crank that are the issue?
Also, what/where is bearing clearance and how are these clearances meaasured? With that plasticine stuff for the bearings?
Sorry for the questions, just find interesting to know how its all done. Rather know for sure than just assume.
Thanks.

[Paleface]

Awesome build, good to see these sorts of threads making a return! Appreciate all the pics and information, helps me understand alot more. Am I correct in thinking that "clearancing" the block its the base of the cylinder that gets worked on/ground out? And its the bolts that hold the conrod onto the crank that are the issue?
Also, what/where is bearing clearance and how are these clearances meaasured? With that plasticine stuff for the bearings?
Sorry for the questions, just find interesting to know how its all done. Rather know for sure than just assume.
Thanks.

Say your doing main bearings, you fit the bearings to block and caps, lay a piece of "plastiguage on the bearing, install crank, install caps, tighten to specs, then pull it all apart and measure how wide the plastiguage has been squashed.

I'd love to do something like this again, last time was a red 308 in 1985 !! Looking forward to watching this one come together.

[peter b]

Awesome build, good to see these sorts of threads making a return! Appreciate all the pics and information, helps me understand alot more. Am I correct in thinking that "clearancing" the block its the base of the cylinder that gets worked on/ground out? And its the bolts that hold the conrod onto the crank that are the issue?
Also, what/where is bearing clearance and how are these clearances meaasured? With that plasticine stuff for the bearings?
Sorry for the questions, just find interesting to know how its all done. Rather know for sure than just assume.
Thanks.

Yeah at the base of the cylinder. Doesn't touch the sleeves though. And the bolt is what hit initially due to the extra throw from bigger stroke.
There are a few ways to check bearing clearance you can Mic the crank and the tunnel with bearings fitted and torqued down but I used plastigauge put a little strip on the bearings torque down. undo and measure the strip that you put in.
You need clearance otherwise it would chew bearings regardless of lubrication so say I had 1 thou clearance it isn't enough due to the fact everything does grow and would have to get a set of extra clearance bearings and excess clearance will cause the crank to bang against them in each power stroke so they wouldn't last long. Is a brand new crank and generally spot on but best to check. I also micced the crank and checked with the specs supplied and all matches

[BigAnt]

Thanks heaps for that, keep up the great work!

[peter b]

Thanks heaps for that, keep up the great work!

No problems if have any other questions feel free to ask I will answer in the best way I can.
Gotta head off to supercheap I lent my snap on piston ring compressors to a mate and he has gone to Japan so the set which i paid like 200 for I cant even use. Oh well more than one way to skin a cat plus need some carby cleaner.
Previous owner of this engine doesnt seem to have liked doing regular oil changes as it was pretty sludged up and would be the factor which lead to spinning the bearing. All the other bearings were pitted and scored but the spun bearing was the worst. When an LS1 spins bearings it is more than just machine the crank and get oversize bearings the rods are a "cracked cap" design so can't close and hone them they are throw away units. So minimum would have been machine crank and replace rods but common story if doing that then why not replace pistons and if going to all this trouble why not change the crank as well.

[peter b]

Todays progress. And yes I am aware one cylinder doesnt have a rod and piston in it I made a slight woopsie when dummying up and appears that the bearing shell moved and has marked the rod so will be sending it out on Monday morning and replacing the bearings for that rod.

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[Gen4 6.2L]

I thought that the tie bar lifters were to be installed with the bar facing the valley or does it not matter?

[peter b]

I thought that the tie bar lifters were to be installed with the bar facing the valley or does it not matter?

the way I have put them in has the hole on the lifter directly in line with the oil feed. The bar itself shouldn't matter as they aren't going to foul with anything but the lifters will come back out anyway I was just working something else out and thats whay they went in.

[peter b]

I thought that the tie bar lifters were to be installed with the bar facing the valley or does it not matter?

And just did a bit of research yes there are supposed to be around the other way. Good thing was just checking something lol. Im going to be held up with the top end am waiting on head bolts to come and supplier keeps delaying them. Bloody US suppliers has been 6 months and 3 confirmed dates which keep getting pushed back. Going to be a struggle to get this done before I go to Melbourne

[ITSDVS]

nice build mate! Looks good and should go awesome!

[peter b]

nice build mate! Looks good and should go awesome!

thanks mate. Alot of work has gone into this and for what it is should be decent to say the least

[ITSDVS]

No worries, I know how much hard work goes into these engine builds etc. But its all in good fun and enjoyment!

[Kingston_99]

Yeah boi! cant wait for the outcome

[peter b]

Yeah boi! cant wait for the outcome

Is going to be a little while before a result is posted though but this thread will be updated at each stage with info and photos

[ITSDVS]

Good to here pete, What is your time frame to have it finished?

[peter b]

Good to here pete, What is your time frame to have it finished?

I want to have engine built new gearbox in the car and fuel system done with it tuned before the 25th on november thats what i am aiming for anyway

[ITSDVS]

wow man, thats not far away at all :D

[peter b]

wow man, thats not far away at all :D

I know it isnt but i want it done my mate wants it going and I want to drive it :driving:

[ITSDVS]

I bet you want to drive it haha....All that hard work I would want to drive it too. :)

[peter b]

I bet you want to drive it haha....All that hard work I would want to drive it too. :)

and i thought my car was fun to drive this should be nasty

[ITSDVS]

Hahaha nasty is an understatement man

[gavlotic]

Yeah at the base of the cylinder. Doesn't touch the sleeves though. And the bolt is what hit initially due to the extra throw from bigger stroke.
There are a few ways to check bearing clearance you can Mic the crank and the tunnel with bearings fitted and torqued down but I used plastigauge put a little strip on the bearings torque down. undo and measure the strip that you put in.
You need clearance otherwise it would chew bearings regardless of lubrication so say I had 1 thou clearance it isn't enough due to the fact everything does grow and would have to get a set of extra clearance bearings and excess clearance will cause the crank to bang against them in each power stroke so they wouldn't last long. Is a brand new crank and generally spot on but best to check. I also micced the crank and checked with the specs supplied and all matches

Great to see an engine build thread - very inspirational. Just wondering what does the term 'mic' mean?

Thanks.

Gav

[peter b]

Great to see an engine build thread - very inspirational. Just wondering what does the term 'mic' mean?

Thanks.

Gav

Short for using a micrometer etc what you use to measure crank journals etc, also used with bore gauges etc more accurate than verniers etc as the surface isn't flat and these will measure in smaller increments

[gavlotic]

Hey Peter,

Thanks for explaining.

cheers,

Gav

[peter b]

Hey Peter,

Thanks for explaining.

cheers,

Gav

Not a problem at all.

Lil bit of an update due to my time frame I have changed from using head bolts and forked out to use head studs instead at my cost....
Oh and the injectors turned up.
Just waiting for the rod I made a fooba with to come back. It wasn't bad but I am fussy and would rather clean it up than take any type of risks.
Get that in will dial the cam in tonight if I can be bothered then will be full steam ahead so to speak. Very keen to get it down and running but are a fair way off from that yet

[peter b]

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44lb injector

[scottvy]

Hi Peter, what do you think about the wide LSA cam with the single plane intake? The torque loss through the mid-low rev range would n't matter as much with the 383 cubes, but would you go more like 110LSA on a 346?

[peter b]

Hi Peter, what do you think about the wide LSA cam with the single plane intake? The torque loss through the mid-low rev range would n't matter as much with the 383 cubes, but would you go more like 110LSA on a 346?

I didn't want to bleed off too much compression. Going 110 may make it a little more snappier but at the same time will suck away some compression. 113 will still work quite well as there is more into the design of this cam than purely lobe separation. If I was going carburetted yes 110 maybe even 108 but car is still injected this cam as it is will be grumpy and also quite aggressive. The duration and the split in duration will make good use of the head flow and increased flow through intake manifold.
As far as going 110 on a 346 are you meaning with standard manifold??
Having this on a 113 will give me a better torque curve and no dips. I have a fair bit of criteria to fill with this engine and is not an all out race car if I was wanting it purely for drags cam would have been different this will give me best of both worlds.

[peter b]

Little bit of an update I have just about finished checking and double checking everything. Time to strip and clean thoroughly again and then reassemble for final fitment. Just got a couple things to measure and go from there.
But so far so good

[ITSDVS]

Ah great stuff mate! Dont forget, MORE PICS :)

[peter b]

as more progress happens more pics will follow just got a few things left to measure and then will pull back down clean clean and more clean. Then will be time for final assembly. But gotta dummy heads up get my pushrod length right check piston to valve clearance and work out my dynamic compression then and only when I am happy with the outcome will I proceed.

[grandpa spec]

Waiting with bated breath mate :) Great work and a wealth of info in this thread

[peter b]

Waiting with bated breath mate :) Great work and a wealth of info in this thread

will be more info soon but couldnt be bothered working on it tonight work was flat out and I am tired. Dont want to be doing it tired that is when things go missed and can prove costly. But have a plan for this week want to be ready for final assembly off the bottom end and have heads on by friday so I can then match port the manifold to the heads

[BLN215]

Great thread Pete, i miss seeing write ups like this on the forums. Let me know if you need a spare pair of hands with anything ;)

Did you get the head bolts yet? I have a set of ARP bolts here i've been holding onto for mine but won't be using them just yet, im thinking of going studs anyway with the turbo

[peter b]

Great thread Pete, i miss seeing write ups like this on the forums. Let me know if you need a spare pair of hands with anything ;)

Did you get the head bolts yet? I have a set of ARP bolts here i've been holding onto for mine but won't be using them just yet, im thinking of going studs anyway with the turbo

I didn't bother waiting for them as current eta is mid next month so I just got a set of studs for the engine and covered the difference.
You going turbo I would definately go studs

[ITSDVS]

Great man, getting there slowly.

Yeah turbo = arp studs a must :)

[SSer]

You are holding out on us, can we get an update? How is it looking for having the bottom end done by tomorrow?

We need an update fix!

[peter b]

You are holding out on us, can we get an update? How is it looking for having the bottom end done by tomorrow?

We need an update fix!

I have been a bit lazy lately so havent touched it but this weekend I am dummy fitting the heads to work out pushrod length, static and dynamic compression, and piston to valve clearance of course. Then back apart for a clean and reassemble.

[peter b]

Small update bit more work done to the engine but no photos as it doesnt look any different.
Have checked piston to valve clearance in which I am all sweet have about 60 thou clearance without the head gasket.
Checked head gasket compressed thickness and it is what it is supposed to be 53 thou
Also have got my pushrod lengths for intake and exhaust yes they are a slightly different length so that will give me 3/4 turn preload.
Now time to disassemble and clean thoroughly then time for final assembly will be busy tomorrow.
( I got some weird looks walking into Big W and buying a tub of play dough :) )

[VYSHSV8]

Play Dough :lol: ;)

[peter b]

Play Dough :lol: ;)

yep i got the blue one too didnt want to pink one

[IJ.]

Todays progress. And yes I am aware one cylinder doesnt have a rod and piston in it I made a slight woopsie when dummying up and appears that the bearing shell moved and has marked the rod so will be sending it out on Monday morning and replacing the bearings for that rod.


http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/PA150277.jpg

Main Cap on backwards Pete?

[VYSHSV8]

Main Cap on backwards Pete?
yes one does look on backwards......

[JezzaB]

Caps been swapped now. I rang him the other day when the pics went up. Late night engine building has its pitfalls :)

[VYSHSV8]

Caps been swapped now. I rang him the other day when the pics went up. Late night engine building has its pitfalls :)

Ok cool Jezz, I didn't even see the pic till today otherwise i would have rung him or txt the slacka :lol:

[IJ.]

Caps been swapped now. I rang him the other day when the pics went up. Late night engine building has its pitfalls :)

Cool as long as someone caught it ;)

[peter b]

Cool as long as someone caught it ;)

it was in dummy assembling so isn't final assembly luckily. What happens when you work a full day and decide it is a good idea to stay up till 1am.
Made a woopsie but has been corrected had to look at the pic twice too I still have the slap mark on my forehead.
Todays plan pull down thoroughly clean everything and start final assembly.

[TommyVTss]

Very nice, keep the pics/updates coming

Tom

[VYClubby]

Ok cool Jezz, I didn't even see the pic till today otherwise i would have rung him or txt the slacka :lol:

No offense to Peter B.

But that's funny Drew. If anyone else did that you'd be spending the next two years reaming them all over the Internet........

[RARASV8]

love the look of this thing.
if i was to build an engine, i'm sure i could take a picture at every stage and all my faults would be pointed out by the 1000 pair of eyes that watch builds like this one.

Garry

[VYSHSV8]

No offense to Peter B.

But that's funny Drew. If anyone else did that you'd be spending the next two years reaming them all over the Internet........
Nah it sounds like you need a reaming from ya mate :)

Now go and try run an 11 oh thats right ya sold your car coz you couldn't :)

And just for your interest why would I give someone a reaming for putting a cap not in correctly ?????, atleast it was spotted and dealt with before a mistake happened...

Even if you did the same I would notify you, because mistakes happen simple fact of life.....
I only pay out on Fwits most of the time and dickheads that know jacksh!t, wait I just figured out why I pay out on you aka read the above line...
Cya
Now lets not destroy Pete's thread

[VYClubby]

Nah it sounds like you need a reaming from ya mate :)

Now go and try run an 11 oh thats right ya sold your car coz you couldn't :)



Is that why I sold the car is it?

That's news to me...

[BLACK 346]

And just for your interest why would I give someone a reaming for putting a cap not in correctly ?????, atleast it was spotted and dealt with before a mistake happened..

You would ring them and tell them quietly, just like the bloke in the earlier post did ;) Rather than make a big deal about it. Thas is what I would do anyway :)

[VYSHSV8]

You would ring them and tell them quietly, just like the bloke in the earlier post did ;) Rather than make a big deal about it. Thas is what I would do anyway :)
Correct :)
Doesn't matter whether ya dislike someone at all, you still don't want them to fark an engine up for the price of a call :) or a pm, its not like we have money to throw away....

[peter b]

VYCLUBBY no offense taken but please leave your baggage or issues with drew out of this thread if you have an issue with Drew PM him ask for his number and give him a call I am sure he will be more than happy to sort out what ever problems you 2 have.
On another note engine got pulled down thoroughly washed and have assembled the bottom end for final assembly.
If people can't get over the fact I made a boo boo which was corrected thanks to Jez's keen eyes as I was up till 1am doing that and no it wouldn't have gone missed as was only dummy assembling. I had already done my bearing clearances so nothing was affected by it.

[VYSHSV8]

VYCLUBBY no offense taken but please leave your baggage or issues with drew out of this thread if you have an issue with Drew PM him ask for his number and give him a call I am sure he will be more than happy to sort out what ever problems you 2 have.
On another note engine got pulled down thoroughly washed and have assembled the bottom end for final assembly.
If people can't get over the fact I made a boo boo which was corrected thanks to Jez's keen eyes as I was up till 1am doing that and no it wouldn't have gone missed as was only dummy assembling. I had already done my bearing clearances so nothing was affected by it.

Good to hear :):) :thumbsup:

[peter b]

Have the heads and manifold sitting on the engine all I can do is smile.

[SSer]

Good news! Any chance of a pic or two? :thumbsup:

[peter b]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0127.jpg

took this with my phone

[SSer]

:bow:

Im loving that intake.

[peter b]

:bow:

Im loving that intake.

It looks the goods but still have a bit of work to do to the intake before I am happy with it. For what my mate wants it will serve his purpose as he only wants air filter out of the bonnet wanted the old school look I agreed with the manifold for a different reason however

[OUTAtheBloo]

Looks good mate, plug it in and get some air and fuel into it !

[peter b]

Looks good mate, plug it in and get some air and fuel into it !

Not quite ready for that.
My calculations were close with a 53 thou compressed head gasket I get 11.75:1 compression, and have a chamber size of 59.2cc so I would say is very healthy for intended purposes.
Spent all day sandblasting all the covers and then going over the visible covers with G3 compound and scotch brite.They look brand new now so I am happy with the results just needs a further clean to ensure have all the sand out of everything. So all in all quite a productive day but no pics yet

[mrvkcalais]

how far are the pistons sticking out of the tops of the bores and what size cam are u running ?? great build by the way im also building something similar at the moment same manifold and throttle

cheers scott

[throttlehappy]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0127.jpg

took this with my phone

looks glorious

[peter b]

how far are the pistons sticking out of the tops of the bores and what size cam are u running ?? great build by the way im also building something similar at the moment same manifold and throttle

cheers scott

They protrude 3 thou cam specs are in an earlier post 246/258 0.625 lift 113 lobe separation.

[peter b]

looks glorious

Should look even better in the next couple of days providing everything comes. The had to go for a diff head gasket than what came in the vrs kit as was just a lil small in the bore. The piston didnt touch but was just too close for comfort and as luck would have it I could only get the left hand gasket waiting for the other side to come from the states and also getting a new cam retainer plate. So once I have that will be bolting everything together for the last time and match porting the inlet manifold to the heads and give manifold a bit of a clean up. More busy nights for me

[peter b]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0128.jpg

crappy photo I know but gives an idea of what all the covers look like now

[peter b]

More of an update I am actually getting rid off some boxes as things go on the engine. ARP head studs are in as are the Felpro race MLS head gaskets and the heads are on and torqued down. Job for tomorrow is port match the manifold hmmm not fun but it has to be done. Couldnt be bothered to take a pic but just looks same as before but with heads :)

[peter b]

More and more done now expecting to have the engine completely assembled over the weekend. Have another gearbox for my mate to go into the car and fuel system should be at home thanks the Luke the Duke cheers mate love your work.
Will have pics shortly as will take some tonight to show progress.
When I have done the manifold will also show the work involved with match porting but everything should be going back in the car next week or the week after depending on him and just have to get in a new starter motor.

[jaykay]

look forward to seeing the pics :thumbsup:

[peter b]

look forward to seeing the pics :thumbsup:

soon John soon

[peter b]

Been Flat out all day and this is what I have achieved enjoy

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[peter b]

and just to clarify the blue you see around the rocker covers is not sealant. The felpro rocker cover gaskets are Blue

[Roonstain]

Looks a little more together than it was this morning!
Good work mate

[peter b]

Looks a little more together than it was this morning!
Good work mate

Yeah after you guys left I got stuck into it and just stayed in the garage till I got it done.
A keen eye will see a couple bolts missing they will be sorted on Monday. got the wrong balancer bolt anyone have an ls7 need a balancer bolt?

[HQvanner]

yeh does certainly look more together than yesterday morning lol
did you get the port matching on the manifold done??

[peter b]

yeh does certainly look more together than yesterday morning lol
did you get the port matching on the manifold done??

Yeah got it done it actually wasnt too bad
Another thankyou to the guys that came over and helped pull gearbox and clutch out of my car much appreciated :thumbsup:

[HQvanner]

Yeah got it done it actually wasnt too bad
Another thankyou to the guys that came over and helped pull gearbox and clutch out of my car much appreciated :thumbsup:

no worries mate.

[VYSHSV8]

Yeah got it done it actually wasnt too bad
Another thankyou to the guys that came over and helped pull gearbox and clutch out of my car much appreciated :thumbsup:
1/2 hr job that leaves 3+hrs of drinking :lol:

[VYSHSV8]

Looks great Pete :):)

[peter b]

1/2 hr job that leaves 3+hrs of drinking :lol:

if it were you drew there would have been alcohol consumed whilst working
lol

[VYSHSV8]

:thumbsup::driving::hide:
if it were you drew there would have been alcohol consumed whilst working
lol

[vuss383]

When do you think you will have this fitted Pete ? Will be interesting to see what results you achieve with that cam .

Troy

[peter b]

When do you think you will have this fitted Pete ? Will be interesting to see what results you achieve with that cam .

Troy

I was hoping to have it all in the car running and tuned before the 25th but there is a lot still to be done to the car and he is getting his headers coated and the car needs a bit of tlc. The power steer pump needs replacing as do the lines, new rack boots and the uni's to get replaced in his tailshaft. Fit engine and new gearbox and then do his fuel system all without a hoist will see how it goes but I think it will be more like next month.
The cam is one of my new ones and you and I will both be very interested in the outcome.

[peter b]

There will be more photos soon as more additions for the car came just sorted out a built 4L60 for this car which will work better for him

[grandpa spec]

When do you think you will have this fitted Pete ? Will be interesting to see what results you achieve with that cam .

Troy

With specs like 246/258 0.625 lift 113 lobe separation so am I! Bloody monster!

[peter b]

With specs like 246/258 0.625 lift 113 lobe separation so am I! Bloody monster!

With that cam i still have a lot of piston to valve clearance and dynamic compression is still in the 10's I could have gone a bigger cam quite comfortably but for the purpose that this needs to fill it will be plenty

[peter b]

small update fuel system just showed up today amd have his gearbox nearly ready to go together just waiting on a couple things and then will be putting the car together again fun fun fun

[SSer]

Hey Pete, any updates? Also any pics of the VT its going into, or is that revealed at the end?

[peter b]

Hey Pete, any updates? Also any pics of the VT its going into, or is that revealed at the end?

Getting things sorted for my trip to Melbourne this weekend and been busy with my own car so not a lot happening in regards to this car. I dont have any pics of the car itself so will see what I can do in that respect.Will be full steam ahead when I get back though as want to get it going before christmas. The engine is built just been getting everything else sorted so can go to his unit and put it all together rather than bit by bit.
As work happens will keep you updated

[peter b]

Another piece of the puzzle has turned up a brand new MSD APS starter motor.
His original one was cracked and for the price couldn't say no.
Will take some pics of everything I have here when I get back from the Movember cruise

[peter b]

some pics

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0150.jpg

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[SVNLTR]

peter move that starter 1 more click up so it clears the headers

[peter b]

peter move that starter 1 more click up so it clears the headers

Thanks Nick. First time using the MSD one so always good to get any advice. Will be dummied up before everything goes in as well. This has become the job that never ends everywhere I look things need to be changed

[jca]

hey Peter, started up my customers 383ci on wednesday with this cam its pretty crazy i think ive already worn out his engine mounts hope to tune it in the next few days. regards Jason

[peter b]

hey Peter, started up my customers 383ci on wednesday with this cam its pretty crazy i think ive already worn out his engine mounts hope to tune it in the next few days. regards Jason

Nice one let me know how it goes and how it drives. Was good to catch up the other day mate.
Good thing I got this guy some new mounts then hey.

[stockergts]

Coming along nicely mines going back in over the weekend
And gets tuned later this week
What power figure are you hoping to get with this?

[peter b]

Coming along nicely mines going back in over the weekend
And gets tuned later this week
What power figure are you hoping to get with this?

To be fair if it pulls 330rwkw I will be wrapped. Being a 383ci they dont show massive peak figures but the improvement will be in the low-mid range thing to look at with 383ci strokers is the torque graph and how early they start to pick up

[stockergts]

Ok then good to know I was hoping for a little more as I went with a set of afr's
Oh well time will tell

[peter b]

Ok then good to know I was hoping for a little more as I went with a set of afr's
Oh well time will tell

the heads on this engine are pretty good and full cnc'd what are you hoping for

[stockergts]

I was hoping for around 500 at the rears with alot below the curve
I'm still to put a itb intake on it however so that may get me to my mark

[peter b]

I was hoping for around 500 at the rears with alot below the curve
I'm still to put a itb intake on it however so that may get me to my mark


I wish you the best hope you get the result your looking for

[peter b]

for those awaiting results from this combo engine and gearbox are in the car got a few other things to finish off under the car and sort out throttle cable etc then will tidy up all the wiring as best as I can. Awaiting a few bits and pieces but hope to be doing the fuel system on saturday and fire it up see what it sounds like then off for a tune. Still gotta sort out air filter as to which one he wants and go from there.

[peter b]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0154.jpg

[chev]

Bloody nice Pete:thumbsup:

[peter b]

Bloody nice Pete:thumbsup:

Thanks Gary
Im getting keen to hear it start up

[LS Kernal]

Will the intake and filter all fit under bonnet?

[peter b]

Will the intake and filter all fit under bonnet?

Nope not even in the running mate wants filter out of the bonnet so he will be cutting the hole in his bonnet.
The unfortunate side is as far as intake manifolds go for the LS there arent many options for keeping everything under the bonnet off the shelf.
But as I said he wants the old school look so

[chev]

Thanks again mate for coming down to Melb to represent Fabre.
You did a fab job:thumbsup:

Chev

[peter b]

Thanks again mate for coming down to Melb to represent Fabre.
You did a fab job:thumbsup:

Chev

Not a problem at all was a good day glad I could be of help.

[peter b]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0157.jpg

[OUTAtheBloo]

Have you bolted it in Pete ?

[peter b]

Have you bolted it in Pete ?

Engine and box are in the car still putting other parts of the car together. But it is all coming together albeit yes a lil slowly but that is due to working on the ground and going over everything. And am also working on his wiring harness tidying it up to make it look neat. I like giving cars the factory look but with this intake setup that is just not going to happen but I will be happy with neat and tidy

[peter b]

for all those that were waiting engine is in fuel system is done and engine starts and runs albeit is rich and doesnt idle (hasnt been tuned yet)
Checked fuel system for leaks and set pressure
Disconnected fuel and spark
Cranked engine to ensure has oil pressure
Reconnected spark and fuel
Started first turn off the key and sounds farkin angry.
No noises at all and very grumpy but will smoothen off a little once it is tuned
No video at this stage is under a block of flats and the sound just reverberates of the walls so a vid wouldnt do it justice at this stage.

[VYSHSV8]

Great to hear mate.
Well done can't wait to hear the vid, oh and yes I am not in my truck I am at home yippee typing this haha ;)

[peter b]

Great to hear mate.
Well done can't wait to hear the vid, oh and yes I am not in my truck I am at home yippee typing this haha ;)

hahahaha messaging on face book and driving a road train not such a good idea lol
congrats on the new job mate.

[VYSHSV8]

hahahaha messaging on face book and driving a road train not such a good idea lol
congrats on the new job mate.

I wasn't driving I was parked up ;) ok haha

[peter b]

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[redmonaro]

nice project pete, what HP are you hoping for from the rear wheels? regards John

[peter b]

nice project pete, what HP are you hoping for from the rear wheels? regards John

to be totally honest if it makes 330 rear wheel kilowatts or around 440 - 450 rear wheel horsepower i will be wrapped more looking for low down torque.

[Madmik]

J-E-S-U-S Pete she looks good. Lookin fwd to hearing the beast.

[peter b]

J-E-S-U-S Pete she looks good. Lookin fwd to hearing the beast.

Car should be off for tuning this week so will be able to have some results soonish and possibly a sound file.

[VYSHSV8]

This thread is useless without sound clips :p:deal:

[peter b]

This thread is useless without sound clips :p:deal:

soon drew relax it only started up yesterday geeeeezzzz

[macca33]

Looks great sitting in the bay Pete - now the owner MUST buy new power steering fluid and coolant bottles!

cheers

[peter b]

Looks great sitting in the bay Pete - now the owner MUST buy new power steering fluid and coolant bottles!

cheers

They are on the to do list he is more concerned about getting it back on the road to take some girl for a drive lol
I told him would make everything neater etc but yeah early next year they will change.

[jaykay]

Come together nicely Peter...be good to hear how it goes on the dyno :thumbsup:

[peter b]

Come together nicely Peter...be good to hear how it goes on the dyno :thumbsup:

Thanks John hope to have some results by end of the week maybe early next week

[peter b]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0160.jpg

Stud has been shortened and has a better looking "nut" on the top of it with the GM logo on it no chev bowtie here.
But this shows what it looks like with a filter.
Oh and got throttle cable sorted car now doesnt have cruise control or traction control but with every gain there is always some kind of compromise.
We also upset an Asian lady tonight as we are doing this under a block of flats and had to start the engine very briefly to check oil levels and run auto oil through the box had it running for no more than 10 - 15 seconds and had a little asian lady screaming at us :cussing:
Oh well car is ready to get towed to get tuned now apart from hole in the bonnet which my mate will be doing I have kindly walked away from such a task as I do not like cutting up cars it can be his problem

[sv300 - 75]

how will you go with having the filter sticking out of the bonnet?
will the cops or the RTA mind that its exposed and sitting a little higher then the line of the bonnet?

[peter b]

how will you go with having the filter sticking out of the bonnet?
will the cops or the RTA mind that its exposed and sitting a little higher then the line of the bonnet?

That part is very much illegal I am trying to get him to put a scoop on the boonet to atleast hide it to some degree.
It is the look my mate wants I am afraid and I have made him well aware of the fact that the car is very much illegal and if he gets done may as well buy a spare motor so atleast we can just flick that in to get passed but obviously I dont want to have to provide that type of continuing work and support.
If it were my car it would have gotten a Fast 102 manifold to keep everything under the bonnet. But the simple fact is change your exhaust and the car becomes illegal with comments from local highway patrol that "your a hoon" etc. Told him drive it sensibly and dont go where there are big crowds ie illegal drags and hang outs.

[duke5700]

He has got no chance..

One of the boys here in Canberra did it to his car.. lasted 23hrs before it was off the road. He will need a scoop at the minimum.

[peter b]

He has got no chance..

One of the boys here in Canberra did it to his car.. lasted 23hrs before it was off the road. He will need a scoop at the minimum.

I am taking bets on how long it lasts where does the betting start :bravo:

[peter b]

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[ATOMIC 8]

Hats off to ya pete.. Done a top job.:thumbsup:

Can't wait to see some videos and results.

[SVNLTR]

gOOd suff mr B

[peter b]

Hats off to ya pete.. Done a top job.:thumbsup:

Can't wait to see some videos and results.

Results will probably in the next few days. Car is at LSX Tuning and it got a quick download this afternoon so the car now runs and idles by itself. Has a nice grumpy idle and can tell it has compression.
But yeah wont expect any results till about Friday I would say he has a lot of work ahead of him.
Whilst it now runs by itself I took the opportunity to top up auto oil etc and get levels where they need to be and just make sure everything is done up tight.
A few things will change in the new year but for now this is how the car will be except it will have a bonnet

[ATOMIC 8]

Results will probably in the next few days. Car is at LSX Tuning and it got a quick download this afternoon so the car now runs and idles by itself. Has a nice grumpy idle and can tell it has compression.
But yeah wont expect any results till about Friday I would say he has a lot of work ahead of him.
Whilst it now runs by itself I took the opportunity to top up auto oil etc and get levels where they need to be and just make sure everything is done up tight.
A few things will change in the new year but for now this is how the car will be except it will have a bonnet

Pfft.. Bonnets are overated. Leave it off.:p

[peter b]

Pfft.. Bonnets are overated. Leave it off.:p

Your from western Sydney arent you :stick: lol
Bonnet is a requirement although will have the filter poking through

[peter b]

gOOd suff mr B

Thanks Nick much appreciated mate

[ATOMIC 8]

Your from western Sydney arent you :stick: lol
Bonnet is a requirement although will have the filter poking through

Ha ha.. I'll cop that. Lol.

[peter b]

Ha ha.. I'll cop that. Lol.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[HYMEY]

stuff the scoop straight out id say see a lot of ppl doin it and never get caught there to busy chasin cars with gay 22x10 inch wheels that sit 30mm off the ground

[peter b]

stuff the scoop straight out id say see a lot of ppl doin it and never get caught there to busy chasin cars with gay 22x10 inch wheels that sit 30mm off the ground

That is what he is doing. His car I just provided a service which I am happy with the outcome so far.
Sounds quite nice and healthy

[duke5700]

stuff the scoop straight out id say see a lot of ppl doin it and never get caught there to busy chasin cars with gay 22x10 inch wheels that sit 30mm off the ground

That may work in Bum**** Idaho but not in Sydney.. Less than 24hrs and pew pew

[peter b]

That may work in Bum**** Idaho but not in Sydney.. Less than 24hrs and pew pew

In all fairness he has been told and is up to him what he does.

[Daggs68]

[QUOTE=peter b;1955477]Just thought I would share something that I am doing for a mate.
Anyways here are some pics enjoy

As I am a newbie, I can't post pics, or even repost ......
But you all know that already ..... anyway,

nice pantah in the background :yahoo:

by the way, great thread too !!!!

cheers,
Darryl.

[peter b]

[QUOTE=peter b;1955477]Just thought I would share something that I am doing for a mate.
Anyways here are some pics enjoy

As I am a newbie, I can't post pics, or even repost ......
But you all know that already ..... anyway,

nice pantah in the background :yahoo:

by the way, great thread too !!!!

cheers,
Darryl.

You mean the ducati 900 mike hailwood replica??
Thanks darryl

[SSer]

Great work Pete. Thanks for keeping the thread up to date, its been fun watching the thing come together, something I wish there was more of. I bet you had a smile on your face when you first started it all up for the first time.

Looking forward to seeing the results. I bet your mate is wrapped already, would be painful waiting to get it back.

[peter b]

Great work Pete. Thanks for keeping the thread up to date, its been fun watching the thing come together, something I wish there was more of. I bet you had a smile on your face when you first started it all up for the first time.

Looking forward to seeing the results. I bet your mate is wrapped already, would be painful waiting to get it back.

Is still in being tuned initial results are 305rwkw but the big increase here is torque at 960nm of torque.
Car has a slippery 4200rpm dominator convertor (flashing to 4600rpm) built 4L60 and 3.9 diff gears. If I was concerned about making a power figure the engine would have nitrous or FI.
This car was built to be a tough streetcar and I have delivered. The throttle response is unreal and it just wants to keep revving. Revving quite easily to and past 6900rpm. The car feels strong.
Before flaming over the power figure begins it is a tight engine will show a little more once it has loosened up but more importantly it is a 383ci and they will never show a massive power figure. Would have been really good to have a before and after graph to show where the increase has been but the engine had spun bearings so was not able to do so.
Plans for future is water injection to cool down the air intake and keep the air charge nice and cool as with being an alloy manifold it tends to heat up. That being said this was found on the dyno and a dyno fan vs driving the car are two different things, and will look at a different convertor (but the decision will be made once it has seen a few passes at the track so I can get some data on it and see which way we want to go with it). If the 4200rpm convertor is on the money will send this one out to get tightened up otherwise will be on the phone to all fast convertors in Perth and get one made up to suit the application and keeping it street friendly.
All in all I am very happy with the results and the car will turn the tyres easily and when it is time to take it for a run down the track would expect a low 11 which is a bit of an increase from his 12.6 (i think that or a 12.8)

[ATOMIC 8]

Sounds good pete..

She will def get up and go with torque figures like that!!:driving:

[peter b]

Sounds good pete..

She will def get up and go with torque figures like that!!:driving:

Thanks for the kind words

[duke5700]

Had a mate ring me the other day pete, pretty similar combo to this went 10.2 @ 125mph.. So its going to be fast. :goodjob:

[peter b]

Had a mate ring me the other day pete, pretty similar combo to this went 10.2 @ 125mph.. So its going to be fast. :goodjob:

Yeah the car isnt really setup for the drags so I am not going to make any claims yet but time will tell.
Going to go over after work and give it a squirt up the street and back make sure I am happy with everything.
Thanks Luke I am absolutely wrapped with the outcome as far as torque values go will be better to see how it drives

[Madmik]

Pete who's running the tuning........

Maybe I need to think about stroking the old girl when she gets tired.

[peter b]

Pete who's running the tuning

Girch at LSX Tuning

[Madmik]

Should swing by to take a look. Day or two til it's done

[peter b]

Should swing by to take a look. Day or two til it's done

Car is getting picked up tomorrow

[Madmik]

So can we expect a sound/vid clip:thumbsup:

[peter b]

So can we expect a sound/vid clip:thumbsup:

maybe if your lucky

[qwigybo]

dyno sheet would be fantastic as well to see how that cam produces power and stroker torque:woohoo:

[peter b]

dyno sheet would be fantastic as well to see how that cam produces power and stroker torque:woohoo:

In all fairness the car isn't mine and as such I dont know if I will recieve a copy of it. I will see what I can do. Have spoken to Girch during the day and have been told that it makes power all the way to 6900 rpm and basically holds it after that instead of falling off.
I was planning on going past this afternoon but due to unexpected circumstances I won't be going tonight and will try to get there early tomorrow morning.

[qwigybo]

That sounds fair. Sounds like a good thing would love to keep running mine upto 7500 once stroked and this sounds like one to look into :)

[peter b]

That sounds fair. Sounds like a good thing would love to keep running mine upto 7500 once stroked and this sounds like one to look into :)

depending on how far you wont to go to continue making power upto 7500rpm you would be good to look into a solid roller camshaft.
This is hydraulic and can only push it so far I am very surprised it hasnt dropped off at around 6600rpm but has continued to make power upto 6900rpm and hold the power. To be honest probably running into lifter bleed out up the very top and will put in a thicker oil to help combat this but it isnt going to magically give me 50hp for what it is and for what it is making I am stoked. This was done within a budget so hasn't been an open cheque book type build so to speak. And was always being done to be a tough weekend street car. So will rarely have the need for top end.

[MSCHIF]

Haha just seen this thread now. All I can say is Pete ur a bloody legend building this engine and putting it all back together for me, the amount of work you ve put into this is amazing, can't thank you enough and i m very happy with the results. I can't wait to drive this thing, soon as i get home tomorrow hole gets cut in bonnet then it hits the streets. Its definately hitting the track in the new year to get some numbers on the board.

Heres a pic from the day it went to LSX
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mschif/itp008.jpg

[jca]

Yep Peter almost finished tuning my combo which is the same but with a fast 102 and 5200rpm converter not going to win Dyno comps bit under 300rwkw but very very fast on the road going run it at heathcote on Sunday if I pull me finger out tomorrow

[peter b]

I am stoked with the camshaft as well as it is one of my new grinds which I designed and for it to be still making power at 6900rpm without dropping off. I just cant wait to see how it goes.
Chris mate aslong as you are happy that is the main thing. The car sounds tough as fark and you better be careful as it is very responsive and I dont say that lightly the thing just wants to rev.
With the amount of torque it is putting out your rear tyres will not like you

[peter b]

Yep Peter almost finished tuning my combo which is the same but with a fast 102 and 5200rpm converter not going to win Dyno comps bit under 300rwkw but very very fast on the road going run it at heathcote on Sunday if I pull me finger out tomorrow

power figures are overrated. Yes they dont sound very high but for those hung up on numbers go drive a 383 you will be very surprised and you will probably need a new pair of underwear. Torque is where it is at the amount of torque they make will push you into the back seat.
Im a fan of an angry natural engine yes blown and turbo has its benefits but you cant say that when you hear a loud lumpy bent 8 idling making everything shake that you dont get a childish grin across your face

[sv300 - 75]

power figures are overrated. Yes they dont sound very high but for those hung up on numbers go drive a 383 you will be very surprised and you will probably need a new pair of underwear. Torque is where it is at the amount of torque they make will push you into the back seat.
Im a fan of an angry natural engine yes blown and turbo has its benefits but you cant say that when you hear a loud lumpy bent 8 idling making everything shake that you dont get a childish grin across your face

im in love with this thread, awesome from start to finish.
the main thing with a car is how it drives, not some number on a computer screen.
great job to you peter for producing an awesome stroker.

is it possible to let us know how much this process cost? wouldnt mind doing this sort of build as i now have a weekend streeter as well. id go for the fast 102 though

[Black_vtss]

There is just something about a 383 that screams tuff.... might have something to do with the awesome sound and its aggressive rock on idle.

Not big power numbers but as said above, go for a drive and that'll tell you where things are at. Best thing I ever did with my car and I love it. It has been good to see a few stroker builds going on this year.

[peter b]

There is just something about a 383 that screams tuff.... might have something to do with the awesome sound and its aggressive rock on idle.

Not big power numbers but as said above, go for a drive and that'll tell you where things are at. Best thing I ever did with my car and I love it. It has been good to see a few stroker builds going on this year.

With a 383 even with forced induction the power figures never seem exciting but the driveability of a 383 vs a 346 is chalk and cheese. The 346 has a dead spot down low which no cam or amount of tuning will get rid off but going to 383 there is no flat spot to be seen and makes them come alive.
300kw in an LS1 is very stout and whilst L98's LS3's are pulling higher numbers with less work the 383 will still have their number

[qwigybo]

power figures are overrated. Yes they dont sound very high but for those hung up on numbers go drive a 383 you will be very surprised and you will probably need a new pair of underwear. Torque is where it is at the amount of torque they make will push you into the back seat.
Im a fan of an angry natural engine yes blown and turbo has its benefits but you cant say that when you hear a loud lumpy bent 8 idling making everything shake that you dont get a childish grin across your face

Ain't that the truth. :drool: love that angry n/a noise and when it's that angry it tries to turn tyres at idle :D I mean I could put an ls3 in my skid rig but I want tyre torchering torque and 383 stroker is where it's at :chuckapproves:

[peter b]

im in love with this thread, awesome from start to finish.
the main thing with a car is how it drives, not some number on a computer screen.
great job to you peter for producing an awesome stroker.

is it possible to let us know how much this process cost? wouldnt mind doing this sort of build as i now have a weekend streeter as well. id go for the fast 102 though

To be fair and honest to do it properly isnt the cheapest and will run up a nice bill.
The figures on the screen mean little the only figure I care about is torque and where it picks up as that will determine the driveability down low will have more details on everything as the time comes. If you want to get this done to yours speak to some reputable workshops in your area. I know very little of what is where in Melbourne but a couple suggestions would be
Speak to Matt @ HP-F
Phonsey or Jake @ GM motorsport
Jason @ Jason Clark Automotive
Scott @ VCM
Frank @ APS
Nick @ NJC Corp
Garry @ Chevs
They would be a start

[Black_vtss]

If you are in Melbourne you can't go past Chev's. He did a fantastic job on my engine build and his customer service is second to none.



To be fair and honest to do it properly isnt the cheapest and will run up a nice bill.
The figures on the screen mean little the only figure I care about is torque and where it picks up as that will determine the driveability down low will have more details on everything as the time comes. If you want to get this done to yours speak to some reputable workshops in your area. I know very little of what is where in Melbourne but a couple suggestions would be
Speak to Matt @ HP-F
Phonsey or Jake @ GM motorsport
Jason @ Jason Clark Automotive
Scott @ VCM
Frank @ APS
Nick @ NJC Corp
Garry @ Chevs
They would be a start

[macca33]

Sounds like a fantastic result Pete...:goodjob:

[peter b]

Sounds like a fantastic result Pete...:goodjob:

Thanks Mate just a couple things to tidy up on the car and will be job done.
I am real happy with the results for what the car has and the engine being quite a tight engine.
Makes all the hours in the garage worth while

[peter b]

Just came back to work took the car for a quick spin and all I can say is farrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkk. Didnt even crack the secondary throttle butterflies as it just starts frying the tyres. Car feels very strong and sounds tough as nails.
I dont care what anyone says TORQUE is where it is at hp means sfa as hp wont get the car out of the hole the torque will make you get up and boogy.
Only let down was the brand new reco pump doesnt work so steering is heavy I am making a phone call now to sort it out. But yeah thought you guys would like to hear that the car is extremely angry and extremely responsive

[HQvanner]

Just came back to work took the car for a quick spin and all I can say is farrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkk. Didnt even crack the secondary throttle butterflies as it just starts frying the tyres. Car feels very strong and sounds tough as nails.
I dont care what anyone says TORQUE is where it is at hp means sfa as hp wont get the car out of the hole the torque will make you get up and boogy.
Only let down was the brand new reco pump doesnt work so steering is heavy I am making a phone call now to sort it out. But yeah thought you guys would like to hear that the car is extremely angry and extremely responsive

thats what i like to hear mate.
:thumbsup:

[peter b]

Just clarify the reco pump is power steering pump.
Would appear the relief valve is stuck open and not allowing it to build pressure so therefore steering is heavy as fark. But will get it sorted quickly

[peter b]

Power steering is sorted second pump actually made pressure so he can now steer the car nicely and easier. He has already cut the hole in the bonnet and didnt do a bad job at all. Car looks and sounds the goods. Changed oil due to fuel contamination but was to be expected and had already planned on it. Will give it 1500k's and then change the grade of oil. But smiles all around and mate is off enjoying the car.

[stompa]

hey peter any chance you can give us a rough retail cost for the parts used?

[blackvussii]

Great thread, super result. Love the torque figures.

[peter b]

stompa flick me through a pm with what you are wanting and will see what I can do and give a recommendation of where to go

[awesome _vzss]

Hey peter just wanted say congrats on an awesome job,been keeping an eye on this thread since day one and very impressed on the out come and the torque this monster is producing,also can't wait to hear it once you post up a sound file.:goodjob:

[peter b]

Hey peter just wanted say congrats on an awesome job,been keeping an eye on this thread since day one and very impressed on the out come and the torque this monster is producing,also can't wait to hear it once you post up a sound file.:goodjob:

I got one with my phone but it sounds crap so gotta take a better camera next time i go
Thanks for the kind words. Have a few little things to work through to finish the car off and sort out a small oil leak but in all fairness just slight teething issues

[VY5.7LTR]

Pete,
Hats off mate, looks to be awesome combo.:thumbsup:

[vuss383]

Pete , Have to agree with the fact that the little 383's are a lot of fun as a daily . The torque they produce just fries tyres & they run decent numbers . I enjoyed my 383 for years . Once boosted it was more then a handfull !!

[peter b]

In the new year we will see what numbers it runs. Have a few little things to sort out but will tidy it all up within the week if all goes well. Thank you everyone for your kind words.

[qwigybo]

Hi pete any more updates on the car ?

[JET-33]

hanging for a video with audio pete :D

[JET-33]

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n633/peter2583/IMAG0165.jpg

any plans for some bigger anchors to stop this beast?

[JET-33]

Im a fan of an angry natural engine yes blown and turbo has its benefits but you cant say that when you hear a loud lumpy bent 8 idling making everything shake that you dont get a childish grin across your face

:bow: :bow: :kneel: :bow: :bow:

[peter b]

As far as video well I will see what I can do just got a new camera so will try get one that sounds ok. Took one before with phone but sounded crappy. As far as bigger brakes go at this stage I think we are just going with new pads and discs. Give the guy a break everything costs money lol....
Updates will come shortly although have confirmed up and coming plans for water meth injection....but want to see it run before it and see how badly we get kicked out. Aiming for a low 11 as is but will see.
Haven't had time lately and have a lot of work going on at the moment including my own car in which heads are coming off new tie bar lifters going in and heads might get a bit of a skim depending how much room I have to play with. Hoping to start on my own car tonight and get the heads off and check exactly how much can safely take off the heads then will drop em off at machinist.

[throttlehappy]

awesome thread and the filter above the bonnet is slightly arousing...sure beats all the other shit threads that are going around on here

[peter b]

Well the next thread I do which wont be for a lil while will be fairly interesting as well.
Solid roller camshaft aftermarket heads bigger capacity and 12:1 compression.. will be my own car next one

[throttlehappy]

now thats somthing worth looking at

not a politician thread

[John_LS1]

Solid Roller LS's aren't as popular here as they are in the states so will be very interesting to see what kind of power and how it behaves etc.

[peter b]

Solid Roller LS's aren't as popular here as they are in the states so will be very interesting to see what kind of power and how it behaves etc.

Well thing is people dont want to have to adjust rockers as a weekly occurrence. However just because it a solid roller doesn't take driveability it comes down to lobe design and how it works with the combo. Some figures that I am working on based on some figures am already working on 258/268 0.640/0.650 110 lobe sep is very rough at the moment but have been working the combo out but cam specs may change. Still waiting on some important info.

[dogsballs]

LIKE!!

are you using domed piston's? or just taking meat off the heads.

all i can suggest is run it on e85, it will love it!!!!

[peter b]

I am still nutting that part out as getting more info on the heads I plan on using as in chamber size and deck thickness etc. Will most likely be a domed piston
This will be a lil while away so gives petrol stations here time to make e85 more available and yes that was the plan E85 and all NA. Grumpy as fark and loads of torque.
Found a nice way to keep my block and go 4.125 bore....

[JET-33]

Found a nice way to keep my block and go 4.125 bore....

how'd you come up with that pete?

[peter b]

sneaky sneaky super secret squirrel shit hahahaha.
Sleeves...

[JET-33]

sneaky sneaky super secret squirrel shit

peter b, cmycv8 and ??? :lmao: must have your workshop up that tree

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-secret-squirrels.jpg

[peter b]

I dont know what you are talking about

[JET-33]

I dont know what you are talking about

secret squirrels going up the tree for top secret work ;)

[peter b]

secret squirrels going up the tree for top secret work ;)

cant give everything away

[JezzaB]

sneaky sneaky super secret squirrel shit hahahaha.
Sleeves...

Whats the squirrels name? Darton Sleeves? :p

[peter b]

Whats the squirrels name? Darton Sleeves? :p


Might be on a winner here lol
Darton Dry sleeves.
A lot of benefits of going this route. Ductile iron sleeve vs the stock cast sleeves and they aren't badly priced for the set. Certainly has more appeal to me than buying an LS7 block

[dogsballs]

saying that, the cost of fully prepped short blocks in pretty much any config you want, is also mighty tempting.