View Full Version : Cross-6>8 swap - Part 4
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27-10-2011, 03:01 PM
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27-10-2011, 03:01 PM
This is a continuation thread, the old thread is 150717
Today!
Just back from a trip to Melbourne to collect the Seal for the Lift, also grabbed some Go-Jacks Hydraulic Fluid and a pair of Stabiliser Legs for the Trailer as they were built into the old Ramps.
Had the Propane Tanker here today to fill up the big tank, a bit over a year and it was $230!!
(spent more than that at the old place per 1/4)
Today End!
Hoist is repaired! :)
edelbrock1
27-10-2011, 07:49 PM
Good work on the hoist...
But the real point of this post is so that I still get email updates when there is a new posting to the thread....
Carry on.......
Good work on the hoist...
But the real point of this post is so that I still get email updates when there is a new posting to the thread....
Carry on.......
LOL they really need to expand how many replies a thread can have before it's "cont" ;)
On the other forum I mod I cut mine off at 4000 and start a new thread.
(takes about a year)
Today!
ARP Head stud kit arrived, Hoist is still not leaking ;)
A quick observation: On my other Forum we don't charge for Vendor access and only ask that they provide "Good Service" to our Members...
A LOT of them seem to take the attidtde that as it's costing them nothing they just don't care... by Contrast here the Vendors pay for their "space" and so far out of 4 fairly big transactions I've received perfect service so well done LS1 Forums Vendors and thanks!
ABS/TRAC
Ok looking into this a bit more...
Turns out the supplied ABS module is a 2wd one so option a: is to leave the main body loom wired as 2wd and put a 2wd VIN into the PCM that way when we plug Tech2 in it'll see the Vin and the Module as a match and program.
I was able to find a Genuine Cross8 Crewman for sale in Qld and the owner was kind enough to go out pop the hood and read me the part number on the ABS pump!
Turns out it's the SAME Pump that was on the car as a Cross6, when I plugged it into the V8 it had no ABS and no TRAC, but that was with it wired as a 2wd, option b: is now to swap the wire to V8 mode refit my original module and take it back to Holden and see if it will program! <fingers crossed>
Holden don't have a listing for the 6.0L Cross8 Crewman pump at all hence them suppling me the 2wd Module in the first place but that all changed with the guy in Qld verifying the numbers are a match V6/V8!
Today p.s.
Went out swapped the wire and fitted up the old ABS/TRAC Module...
NO STARTER nothing... :(
Let it run through the POST and saw "fuel gauge error" and thought DOH I know what that is... opened the hood and sure enough I'd forgot to plug it in... DUHHHH
Plugged it in hit the starter and let it POST, no ABS error and TRAC off gone from the dash! :D
Backed it out of the shed gave it a squirt on the grass and "LOW TRACTION" flashed on along with the rear brakes and off it went, tapped the brakes at the bottom of my dirt driveway and sure enough ABS kicked in so off down my road I went to a big open graveled area.
1 quick flick spin to confirm all was well and off home I headed with a HUGE grin on my face, it accelerates so damn hard on gravel it's stunning and can only get better with the TrueTrac fitted!
I have it booked in Wednesday to finish the linking then I can start on the Blower install!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog200.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog201.jpg
2wd left/CrossTrac right
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog202.jpg
chocco
28-10-2011, 01:33 PM
So what u are sayings is you had the parts all along it was just that damn wire.
At least there is light.
So what u are sayings is you had the parts all along it was just that damn wire.
At least there is light.
LOL that's exactly what I'm saying ;)
Doesn't help that Holden have 0 information about either car and barely any accurate parts listings..
Got there in the end though so I'm happy :woot:
edelbrock1
28-10-2011, 04:06 PM
LOL that's exactly what I'm saying ;)
Doesn't help that Holden have 0 information about either car and barely any accurate parts listings..
Got there in the end though so I'm happy :woot:
Awesome job.... Well done. Now bring on the power upgrade!!
But i know what you mean about the acceleration when on dirt. I did the a similar thing to the Coupe 4 when I got it, stalled it up on some soft sand and then laid into it. It just took off like a scalded cat. There is no way I ever would have thought it would do what it did. It felt like it was on tarmac. Crazy shit!!
chocco
28-10-2011, 05:43 PM
LOL that's exactly what I'm saying ;)
Doesn't help that Holden have 0 information about either car and barely any accurate parts listings..
Got there in the end though so I'm happy :woot:
We have a saying "If you leave something long enough it will fix itself".
This happened just the other day, after 2 months of my Etag flying around the dash in my new work car, one of my co-workers pulled out a new clip and stuck it to the windscreen. See problem fixed.
We have a saying "If you leave something long enough it will fix itself".
This happened just the other day, after 2 months of my Etag flying around the dash in my new work car, one of my co-workers pulled out a new clip and stuck it to the windscreen. See problem fixed.
LMAO, this thing fought me every step of the way....
If it hadn't been for the confirmation from the guy in Qld I was pretty well lost what I was going to do next if telling the PCM it was a 2wd car didn't work..
This way though I have full CrossTrac features with NONE of the fun killing ESC features that the V6 had! :D
(it gets sideways so easily and controllably on grass something you just couldn't do with the V6/ESC)
chocco
28-10-2011, 06:04 PM
LMAO, this thing fought me every step of the way....
If it hadn't been for the confirmation from the guy in Qld I was pretty well lost what I was going to do next if telling the PCM it was a 2wd car didn't work..
This way though I have full CrossTrac features with NONE of the fun killing ESC features that the V6 had! :D
(it gets sideways so easily and controllably on grass something you just couldn't do with the V6/ESC)
I am pretty sure I heard you :woot: from here !!!
I am pretty sure I heard you :woot: from here !!!
Not at all surprised I was pretty stoked to have cracked it :thumbsup:
Today!
Went down to the shed this morning, it was nice to see 2 long wheelspin marks on the grass and a couple of shorter ones from the front wheels after the sideways yesterday!!
Prior to this it was a single spinner to the point on wet grass or trying to back it into the shed anything above idle it'd just sit turning 1 wheel...
edelbrock1
29-10-2011, 10:20 AM
Awesome job. Glad you got it all sorted.
I know what you mean about acceleration of these things on anything other than tarmac. When I first got the Coupe 4, I found a nice patch of red loamy dirt and came to a stand still. Stalled it up and buried the boot to the floor, came out the other end with a grin from ear to ear. Took off exactly the same as it does on the tarmac, no noticeable wheel slip at all.
You are gunna love this thing.
Awesome job. Glad you got it all sorted.
I know what you mean about acceleration of these things on anything other than tarmac. When I first got the Coupe 4, I found a nice patch of red loamy dirt and came to a stand still. Stalled it up and buried the boot to the floor, came out the other end with a grin from ear to ear. Took off exactly the same as it does on the tarmac, no noticeable wheel slip at all.
You are gunna love this thing.
Yep on gravel there was a little bit of slip while it go it's shit together then neck snapping acceleration :D
The TrueTrac + Blower is going to make it "interesting" to say the least!!
michaels1v8
29-10-2011, 02:30 PM
Awesome IJ!
Now to sell your knowledge back to holden and make some $$$ :D
Awesome IJ!
Now to sell your knowledge back to holden and make some $$$ :D
LOL as it was at one point we had to get my parts guy to ring the storeman at GMH and then get him to go out to the rack with a tape measure to verify the Transfer case shafts as the EPC was telling us there was only 1 for my car..... (there wasn't, there's one to suit V8 4 speed and v6 5 speed and another to suit v6 4 speed as fitted to my car)
the 8 would be so much better then the 6
A bowl of custard would be better than the 6 ;)
ti0350
29-10-2011, 08:22 PM
Congrats on getting it sorted been watching this thread from the beginning you have given me some ideas of a future project in a year or two's time after I've moved out of Sydney and up the coast. Now you've got it sorted I can see a few more AWD V8 utes popping up on here lolol.
Congrats on getting it sorted been watching this thread from the beginning you have given me some ideas of a future project in a year or two's time after I've moved out of Sydney and up the coast. Now you've got it sorted I can see a few more AWD V8 utes popping up on here lolol.
Thanks ti0, glad you've enjoyed the build now the fun part can begin!
I always wanted to get it together all stock before I started installing the Fast bits so I'd have a known quantity :)
Knowing what I know now and in hindsight I'd have done a Coupe!
Today!
Quiet/slack day so figured I'd address the sticky throttle issue on the tractor ;)
Added a return spring and tweaked a linkage so it can't rub and it's all good!
edelbrock1
30-10-2011, 11:39 AM
Knowing what I know now and in hindsight I'd have done a Coupe!
You still can. Now you have it sorted you can just buy a cheap Coupe and swap it all over. At your work rate you would knock it over in a weekend.
You still can. Now you have it sorted you can just buy a cheap Coupe and swap it all over. At your work rate you would knock it over in a weekend.
LOL maybe if I bend the Tonner ;)
Also "tested" the CrossTrac this morning, put a jack under the diff then let it drive forward on the front diff only, passed :)
(failed miserably last time I tried)
Also "tested" the CrossTrac this morning, put a jack under the diff then let it drive forward on the front diff only, passed :)
(failed miserably last time I tried)
lol ,
that would've made an interesting insurance claim
'' you had what jacked up , to test what '' :D
lol ,
that would've made an interesting insurance claim
'' you had what jacked up , to test what '' :D
LMAO I should point out it was on a trolly jack and was only 10mm off the ground :D
Today!
Had a bunch of the boys up today, was showing them how well the Tonner get's sideways chucking it around on the grass outside the big shed....
Went in a bit hot with the idea I'd handbrake turn it then power back...bzzzzz forgot the handbrake needs adjusting and sailed off the embankment... DOH
Couldn't back up so went forward down it then had to find a way back up as the trees are all too close to get the Fat Tonner through, good test of the CrossTrac system as it was lucky to have 2 wheels on the ground at any one time ;)
Climbed out with a minimum of fuss!
Blowers are breeding here...
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog203.jpg
chocco
31-10-2011, 11:39 PM
Today!
Had a bunch of the boys up today, was showing them how well the Tonner get's sideways chucking it around on the grass outside the big shed....
Went in a bit hot with the idea I'd handbrake turn it then power back...bzzzzz forgot the handbrake needs adjusting and sailed off the embankment... DOH
Couldn't back up so went forward down it then had to find a way back up as the trees are all too close to get the Fat Tonner through, good test of the CrossTrac system as it was lucky to have 2 wheels on the ground at any one time ;)
Climbed out with a minimum of fuss!
Blowers are breeding here...
Why no photos of the ute going dark side !!!!
Why no photos of the ute going dark side !!!!
Usually I'm the Camera person Marc ;)
(I screwed it up enough without trying to snap pics)
Blowers are breeding here...
blower , smower , I changed my 2100kg towbar to a 2500kg towbar
and picked up 880 pounds of pulling power for a hundred bucks ;)
blower , smower , I changed my 2100kg towbar to a 2500kg towbar
and picked up 880 pounds of pulling power for a hundred bucks ;)
:worthless:
Today!
Just been out checking fluids for the trip across to the Holden dealer in the morning :)
<fingers crossed> this is the last one, I have an "SVS" Error I suspect is stored from having the incorrect ABS Module on the car and the "Immobiliser error" again I suspect from it unlinking soon as I plugged it all into the car the first time!
We linked it successfully in Sydney on the bench the first time but have never managed to do it in car due to either the Wiring Loom being "wrong" for the AWD or the ABS module being wrong once the wiring was corrected!
If all goes well the only remaining electrical issue is rewiring the Dome light due to the LUX BCM.
Today!
Well that was a bust.... :(
Due to the last linking attempt blowing out to a 5 hour wait that we cancelled it's now a 10h 40m wait... I couldn't be bothered so I came home, the "next" attempt will be a 21H 20m wait so it's going to have to stay overnight....
I'll get Dave to meet me down there to give me a ride home.
On the way back I thought the "fiddling" might have broken the ABS as it was raining a bit and usually you'll get a couple of ABS shudders in this thing, NADA ZIP ZILCH...
I'd already tested TRAC to make sure we hadn't borked that but had to wait till I got somewhere where there was a gravel shoulder on the road, ABS is fine, I'd hammered the brakes a few times in the wet with no ABS event so can only assume it was getting equal brake bias both ends and not locking a wheel..
Called in and got a few more bits to cross some T's and dot some I's, normally I'd had to have "made/modded" bits as the last car/engine combo there wasn't anything available off the shelf :)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog204.jpg
Today End!
Took the Tonner back to Holden and abandoned it there ;)
They'll ring me when it's "done"
Made it a 600Km day, Dave drove the last leg!
Today!
Just got an SMS from Holden, WHOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's done!!
Went through on the 10 hour wait all codes are cleared, I was expecting a 21 hour so that would have been 2pm today!
mickeyVX350
03-11-2011, 07:55 AM
Hey Dad - great news!
I'm still trying to work out how to go about getting the "Stealth Force" stealthily on my car, and the cash out of the bank without the minister for war and peace getting shirty!
Micks
03-11-2011, 08:28 AM
Today!
Just got an SMS from Holden, WHOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's done!!
Went through on the 10 hour wait all codes are cleared, I was expecting a 21 hour so that would have been 2pm today!
I knew with a bit of patience you'd nail it! :goodjob:
Cheers
VYT
Hey Dad - great news!
I'm still trying to work out how to go about getting the "Stealth Force" stealthily on my car, and the cash out of the bank without the minister for war and peace getting shirty!
Buy her flowers Son ;)
(And maybe some Chocolate)
Thanks :)
I don't like to lose, now the fun can begin!
I knew with a bit of patience you'd nail it! :goodjob:
Cheers
VYT
LOL there were a few moments of doubt this end, thanks for the support the guys on the forum have been great!
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Today!
Ta Daaaa it's done Dyno'd and returned home under it's own power! (never a sure thing after a session on the rollers)
171.4 AwKw so 230 AwHp, not bad considering that's on the tiny single V6 exhaust system :D
Today!
Decided to tackle the Interior light issue today ;)
The Tonner has a simple on/door/off single light at the back of the cabin, the LUX BCM I'm using is for a top end car with a whole bunch of lights/map lights and so on so works very differently in the electronics hence no interior light when you open a door.
I've had the 2 circuit diagrams for months now but it wasn't a priority, printed them this morning and came to the conclusion that without totally rewiring it there was only 1 "simple" way to get it working, it's not the prettiest hack but it's fully functional and the ACC/Door sense works perfectly! ;)
Had a small scare as I'd disconnected the BCM and on the restart the "imobiliser error" on the dash returned.... ARGGGHHH another start cleared it, then the 70,000 Km service warning came on and that took me a few minutes to remember how to clear it! (I'm using it as the "Fit SuperCharger" warning :D
Ta Daaaa it's done Dyno'd and returned home under it's own power! (never a sure thing after a session on the rollers)
Was the KW rating of the motor you got 260kw ??
171.4 AwKw so 230 AwHp, not bad considering that's on the tiny single V6 exhaust system :D
so what next , exhaust , blower or both ??
an exhaust then dyno'd would be good ,
to see what gains from a bigger exhaust is .
then the blower ......
Was the KW rating of the motor you got 260kw ??
Was the KW rating of the motor you got 260kw ??
VZ/L98 270Kw Crank, Won't be doing an incremental build on this it all happens at once (I'm old and don't have that much time)
Just in case anyone is interested here's the dyno sheet, I got them to overlay a mates SC400 graph from last week for comparison ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/dyno01.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/dyno02.jpg
chocco
04-11-2011, 06:15 PM
VZ/L98 270Kw Crank, Won't be doing an incremental build on this it all happens at once (I'm old and don't have that much time)
And God called Ian forth to the top of the mountain and said,
" Ian there is oil crisis coming build me AWD a gas guzzler"
So Ian went forth and purchased a V6 but not happy with the rice burner
decided to drop a V8 into the AWD gas guzzler.
.................................................. ................................ 2 years on................................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........., while now happy that the motor now works, Ian wanted more, so Ian went forth a purchased a blower.
God called Ian back to the top of the mountain,
" Ian I am not getting any younger, I want this done by XMAS !!"
Ian replied " FFS, OMG, WTF, Okay"
LOL it's only been a year :p
chocco
04-11-2011, 06:52 PM
LOL it's only been a year :p
Yeah I know, I was stretching the truth just a little bit:fishing:
Yeah I know, I was stretching the truth just a little bit:fishing:
It seems MUCH longer :)
Damn thing fought every step of the way!
Today!
Took the Tonner down to Melbourne today on a parts run, such a relief NOT to be greeted by R2D2 everytime I start it :)
(Error beeper thing)
It's such an effortless cruiser!
I've been holding off buying more parts as I wasn't sure if I'd ever get the AWD system to work but now that's sorted onward>>>>>
I seriously considered building a Stroker as the Manley kit is such good value, then stepped back a bit and thought more about the total package and what I'm trying to achieve.
Thought ok I'll buy some ARP2000 rod bolts maybe an Oil Pump and an ARP Main Stud Kit.... started checking prices and found some Scat H Beam rods and upgraded them to ARP2000 bolts so I should be able to spin it a bit harder now chucked in some Clevite H Main and Rod bearings as well!
Also rebuilt my Oil system that I sold off from the last project and bought a 19L Fuel Cell to add some range and act as my Surge Tank for the Denso Pumps I run!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog205.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog206.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog207.jpg
Today!
Couldn't find an Mocal Oil ThermoStat local so ended up ordering one in from Improved, should be here next week.
hey , just in hindsight and for anyone thinking of doing this ,
do you think it would've been any easier with a 5.7 instead of the 6.0 ??
hey , just in hindsight and for anyone thinking of doing this ,
do you think it would've been any easier with a 5.7 instead of the 6.0 ??
For this car it started life as a Late DBW V6 with the Bosch 8x ABS/TRAC and my 6.0L is a VZ DBW, the 5.7 DBW engine has a few different connectors AFAIK, might have been easier to source a workable 5.7 Main Body Loom but I really wanted to run an e38 PCM and didn't want to be changing reluctors in the engine.
In the long run now it's done it was fairly "simple" but this is of course based on hindsight ;)
(I'd have been screwed if I hadn't found some circuit diagrams and would still be waiting until December for a loom from Holden then of course it would still have had the incorrect ABS Module in it so wouldn't have solved anything.....)
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 08:39 AM
So putting the 6.0L in my adventra should be easy?
So putting the 6.0L in my adventra should be easy?
trade it in on a 5.7 would be easier ;)
actually if you traded it in on a really high kay addy , say straight swap ,
then gave the motor a real good birthday and the other its a once over ,
you'd have a good strong car :driving:
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 12:52 PM
Yah - but I love my Adventra! Sentimental sorta thing.
Actually, I don't care that it is a 6cyl! It's on LPG, 270K on the clock and apart from a few rattles, 'tis gold!!!
But with a 6L in it, on LPG I could have it all!
So putting the 6.0L in my adventra should be easy?
trade it in on a 5.7 would be easier ;)
actually if you traded it in on a really high kay addy , say straight swap ,
then gave the motor a real good birthday and the other its a once over ,
you'd have a good strong car :driving:
Yep but where's the "fun" in that ;)
Yah - but I love my Adventra! Sentimental sorta thing.
Actually, I don't care that it is a 6cyl! It's on LPG, 270K on the clock and apart from a few rattles, 'tis gold!!!
But with a 6L in it, on LPG I could have it all!
I think if I were in your shoes I'd put a SuperCharger on the V6 and call it a day :)
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Today!
Took a trip across to Difillipo Performance Exhaust and after a chat with Darren came up with a plan of attack!!
I'll flange and bolt the Cats to the Headers mod the 2nd Trans Cross member so there's a straight shot with none of this up and over squashed 2.5" pipe BS, flange off both Cats into an X Pipe then into the front of the 2 big ass hot dogs that can live side by side in the centre.
From there it will be 2 more custom 3" mufflers on their sides offset/offset to head the pipes up and over the IRS under the tray along the left side inside the rail to a custom dual 3" in/out rear muffler in the stock location!!
Also picked up the Steel for the crossmember Mods and sourced the Bulkhead connector for the fuel pump wiring in the Surge/AUX tank
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog208.jpg
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 02:51 PM
The fun comes from you throwing the 6L in my car... and partaking in beer smashing!
Blower for the Alloytec... hmmm... that'd be noice!
The fun comes from you throwing the 6L in my car... and partaking in beer smashing!
Blower for the Alloytec... hmmm... that'd be noice!
I was 100% serious about that :)
Yep but where's the "fun" in that ;)
motor rebuilds are fun , i'm sure you could buy ls7 stuff and make them fit ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog208.jpg
oooer :woot: a sports bar kit , will it look like this :D
http://www.beaututes.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=819&d=1223988142
Damn I hope not:)
That would mean I suck at Exhausts worse than I thought!!
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 04:06 PM
I was 100% serious about that :)
I want the blower on my 5.7.... but I could do both!
My Mrs also has a 5.7 VT... then she'll want one!!!
WHERE DOES IT END!!!!???!!!
I can't wait to see the tonner down the strip though!
..v6 blowers, surely there is a kit out there? not sure it'd be happy with LPG though.
LPG+Forced induction is a good thing ;)
I made 365 RwKw with a 3.0L Turbo I-6 on LPG!
chocco
07-11-2011, 06:16 PM
motor rebuilds are fun , i'm sure you could buy ls7 stuff and make them fit ;)
oooer :woot: a sports bar kit , will it look like this :D
http://www.beaututes.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=819&d=1223988142
If you ever even come close to the above I will drive up there and slap you, twice, once for each aerial.
If you ever even come close to the above I will drive up there and slap you, twice, once for each aerial.
I give you permission ;)
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 08:03 PM
I give you permission ;)
That's dad.. He likes a slap... !!!
Only 2 aerials.. 2 slaps... There's at least 20 on the utes over here... There are enough slaps for a mid range assault charge!
chocco
07-11-2011, 08:21 PM
That's dad.. He likes a slap... !!!
Only 2 aerials.. 2 slaps... There's at least 20 on the utes over here... There are enough slaps for a mid range assault charge!
Yes I know, why do you think I go around Sale and not thru it !!!
LOL should hit Denni one year ;)
mickeyVX350
07-11-2011, 08:48 PM
Yes I know, why do you think I go around Sale and not thru it !!!
We all go around Sale Chocco!
We all go around Sale Chocco!
I don't it's always good for a laugh after a few hours on the road :D
Today!
Headers are in!!
NEVER done a V8 where the Drivers side was 10x easier than the passenger side!
I'm not sure what Model Car the headers were prototyped on but I suspect the rails in my VZ might be a little different as there was no way known they were going in, as it was I had to pull the rocker cover off and un bolt the fron diff and rotate it down, all done now.
The pics show the "Issue" with the AWD chassis and it's second trans Crossmember, I'll Mod it tomorrow so the new 3" pipes have a straight shot unlike the squashed 2" stock pipes that go up and over it.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog209.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog210.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog211.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog212.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog213.jpg
mickeyVX350
08-11-2011, 01:45 PM
The question EVERYONE wants to ask is "What does it sound like with the straight headers into no pipes?"
You know you tried it!
The question EVERYONE wants to ask is "What does it sound like with the straight headers into no pipes?"
You know you tried it!
LMAO I built a twin system for my mates SC400 last NYE, we fired it up for maybe 30 seconds, that night at the Neighbour's NYE Party EVERYONE commented on it... I live in a valley my nearest neighbour in 3/4 on a KM away...
This is why I didn't go ahead and buy the Dyno.. :(
dogsballs
08-11-2011, 01:53 PM
VZ drivers side goes in from underneath, but you have to undo rack and let it hang.
VZ drivers side goes in from underneath, but you have to undo rack and let it hang.
Drivers side was shit simple Dog's seriously took maybe 4 minutes and it was in :D
Pass side is a different matter, talked to Darren yesterday he told me it takes a little persuasion to get it in and short of climbing up on them and jumping they weren't going in, there is a row of beads sticking out from the rail that stopped it as it was hard against the head and hard against the AC pipe.
I'll have a look at the rail on my VY and compare when I get around to it but I sort of remember someone posting that the rails were slightly different as their turbo header wasn't going in.
Just rang Darren, apparantly the Pass side goes in from the bottom....
(I tried for 45 minutes and there was no way known mine was going to...)
Ahhh well it's in there now so all good, I was going to fit them when I dropped the engine for the rebuild/blower but decided to build the exhaust and get the IRS in before that so it's all ready to drive once the engine is finished.
dogsballs
08-11-2011, 02:27 PM
the rails look right. its the transfer case.
the rails look right. its the transfer case.
Front Diff was stopping it from underneath, it was like 1 full pipe out from going in, didn't matter what angle I held them on ;)
ON a side note I pulled the plugs while I was doing this and the engine looks to be in good health :D
Today!
Getting old this is enough for today ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog214.jpg
chocco
09-11-2011, 02:17 PM
Nice work Ian,a man of many, many talents, got a shot from the front ??
Looks like the T/C is now enclosed in do you see this as being a problem with trapping in heat, but on the other hand there will be no radiant heat from the cats now.
T/C draining do you have to drop the cross member ???
Nah it's no where near the TC Marc :)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/cx6016.jpg
chocco
09-11-2011, 03:26 PM
From the bak it lookd like it was, was it a pain to make it up
From the bak it lookd like it was, was it a pain to make it up
Yep pic is deceptive. the Steel Crossmember actually mounts behind the TC,
I don't quite understand the need for 2 crossmembers!
(There's an aluminium one bolted to the floor in front of the steel one then they bolt together and to the rails...
Not really a pain, just had a "CBF'd" moment once I'd finished it ;)
mickeyVX350
10-11-2011, 10:22 AM
I'm so used to seeing this thread at the top of the page that I just had to bump it!
I'm so used to seeing this thread at the top of the page that I just had to bump it!
LOL I was getting there ;)
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Today!
A couple of the guys expessed a concern about the flat plate and lack of gussets on the modded section of the crossmember...
While I still don't think it would have been an issue I decided to beef it up a touch, I've always been one to overbuild things so no reason not to on this ;)
Dropped the Cart Axle out and will make a start on the IRS install tomorrow as it needs to be in there before I can proceed on the exhaust.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog215.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog216.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog217.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog218.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog219.jpg
Micks
10-11-2011, 12:29 PM
Look forward to seeing the IRS under your baby!
Watching with keen interest!
Cheers
VYT
Look forward to seeing the IRS under your baby!
Watching with keen interest!
Cheers
VYT
Yep I'm really looking forward to a comfortable ride ;)
(as it is with the light tray I get a headache driving it at low speeds)
Pretty amazed at how much difference there is between the Wagon and the Tonner over the same section of road coming into my place, it's 100 Km limit and a bit off camber then one of the farms leaks gravel from the drive over the road, hit it in the Wagon and you hear gravel and continue on, in the Tonner the back steps out down the camber and you have to correct for it.
Micks
10-11-2011, 01:34 PM
Yep I'm really looking forward to a comfortable ride ;)
(as it is with the light tray I get a headache driving it at low speeds)
Pretty amazed at how much difference there is between the Wagon and the Tonner over the same section of road coming into my place, it's 100 Km limit and a bit off camber then one of the farms leaks gravel from the drive over the road, hit it in the Wagon and you hear gravel and continue on, in the Tonner the back steps out down the camber and you have to correct for it.
Don't notice in mine as always partially loaded, handles pretty well for Leaves, but has generous rubber all round though.
Cheers
VYT
edelbrock1
10-11-2011, 04:53 PM
IJ your work rate still blows me away. It would take me days to root around to get things ready to drop the diff and springs.
I wont be surprised at all if you post tomorrow arvo that your heading into town for pizza to test the newly installed IRS!!
chocco
10-11-2011, 05:08 PM
IJ your work rate still blows me away. It would take me days to root around to get things ready to drop the diff and springs.
I wont be surprised at all if you post tomorrow arvo that your heading into town for pizza to test the newly installed IRS!!
What you dont see happening behind the scenes is the army of elves that magically appear everynite, Ian leaves out a list and hey presto we all think he has been working like a cut cat everyday.
vsute1998
10-11-2011, 05:16 PM
a cross 6 one tonner came into work today and it had 1800kgs loaded up in the back of it lol the courier driver said it was a slow drive
Don't notice in mine as always partially loaded, handles pretty well for Leaves, but has generous rubber all round though.
Cheers
VYT
Mine when I got it with the 320Kg steel Tray rode like a sedan :)
The trip across to Adelaide to drop off the IRS 9" was quite nice, the return trip not so much...
IJ your work rate still blows me away. It would take me days to root around to get things ready to drop the diff and springs.
I wont be surprised at all if you post tomorrow arvo that your heading into town for pizza to test the newly installed IRS!!
Nah I'm only doing Half days now :D
What you dont see happening behind the scenes is the army of elves that magically appear everynite, Ian leaves out a list and hey presto we all think he has been working like a cut cat everyday.
Man I wish!!
a cross 6 one tonner came into work today and it had 1800kgs loaded up in the back of it lol the courier driver said it was a slow drive
Surprised he didn't break the Chassis off the Cabin...
(happens if you go offroad with a Tonne on em!)
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Today End!
The Tonner runs a much larger CV Joint on the Diff than is on the IRS Diff, I went across to Holden and picked up a new flange, while I was out I picked up a couple of extra 02 Bungs and a pair of 02 Extensions for the longer headers.
Micks
10-11-2011, 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=IJ.;1965760]Mine when I got it with the 320Kg steel Tray rode like a sedan :)
Mine had an Ally from go but did drive & feel like a Sedan as well. I reckon Holden have made a Grave mistake in shelvin these Tonners as they were in fact a very good unit! Even if there were a few teethin probs!!
Cheers
VYT
I'm guessing they specced a lighter pair of springs if you got the Al tray as an option!
Agree they should have done a VE Tonner!
Micks
10-11-2011, 07:11 PM
I'm guessing they specced a lighter pair of springs if you got the Al tray as an option!
Agree they should have done a VE Tonner!
Dunno there as bought mine S/H off a Dealer with 22K on her & about 14months old @ the time. BTW handles a fair load with no worries either.
Cheers
VYT
Dunno there as bought mine S/H off a Dealer with 22K on her & about 14months old @ the time. BTW handles a fair load with no worries either.
Cheers
VYT
I used mine to tow the Tractor and Scissor lift up here when it was a V6..
Did ok but was ALWAYS kicking down gears at the slightest hint of a hill, I think when it's finished it'll be a mad Tow car ;)
Micks
10-11-2011, 07:35 PM
I used mine to tow the Tractor and Scissor lift up here when it was a V6..
Did ok but was ALWAYS kicking down gears at the slightest hint of a hill, I think when it's finished it'll be a mad Tow car ;)
With the M6 towed a cherry picker a few times & hardly knew it was attached.
But I reckon I got a goodin!
Cheers
VYT
Sad thing with my V6 was it got much worse economy than either the LS1 in the wagon or the L98 in the Tonner.
I had a bit of a chuckle when the L98 made 170Kw as that's what the LoPo V6 was rated for ;)
Micks
10-11-2011, 08:00 PM
Sad thing with my V6 was it got much worse economy than either the LS1 in the wagon or the L98 in the Tonner.
I had a bit of a chuckle when the L98 made 170Kw as that's what the LoPo V6 was rated for ;)
Exactly the six has plenty of power with little Torque, where the eight has both & uses way less to do the same! Been my argument of all time!
Cheers
VYT
Exactly the six has plenty of power with little Torque, where the eight has both & uses way less to do the same! Been my argument of all time!
Cheers
VYT
Yep very underwhelming engine, what made mine feel even worse is Holden Snuck ESP into it and didn't mention it in the handbook so even on grass it just felt gutless compared to the V8 Adventra!
Today!
Got the Flangesd changed over so I can mock up the mounts/test fit.
It's not going to be quite as simple as I first thought as a few things are "in the way" ;)
Nothing I can't "fix" with the tools here!
Just off to town to buy some supplies/tools I need for this phase. :D
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog220.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog221.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog222.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog223.jpg
Micks
11-11-2011, 01:14 PM
Wow! that flange is way different to the IRS one!
Cheers
VYT
dang , lot's been done , my computer went boom on tuesday ,
just as I was about to post pics of my exhaust for ya .
Don't think it would've helped any .
Wow! that flange is way different to the IRS one!
Cheers
VYT
Yep it and the Tonner CV are HUGE :)
dang , lot's been done , my computer went boom on tuesday ,
just as I was about to post pics of my exhaust for ya .
Don't think it would've helped any .
Welcome back ;)
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Today End!
Picked up a 9" Angle grinder and a Reciprocating saw!
Also bought some steel (not easy finding 4mm plate in the bush, ended up at a place that makes gun safes) then took a run down to my supplier in Melbourne to pick up a fuel cell for test fitting, it's too deep to make work so I'll return it in the morning for the shallower one.... DOH
Odd thing I noticed with the stock tank is it has a hump in its guts for the Driveshaft and the Pump side is deeper preventing a true dual exhaust but there's no way for the fuel from the non pump side to get across to the pump???
chocco
11-11-2011, 07:49 PM
Ian you can do a dual I have been talking to these guys.
http://www.dtperformance.com.au/oldsite/crewman.htm
Yep it and the Tonner CV are HUGE :)
Welcome back ;)
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Today End!
Picked up a 9" Angle grinder and a Reciprocating saw!
Also bought some steel (not easy finding 4mm plate in the bush, ended up at a place that makes gun safes) then took a run down to my supplier in Melbourne to pick up a fuel cell for test fitting, it's too deep to make work so I'll return it in the morning for the shallower one.... DOH
Odd thing I noticed with the stock tank is it has a hump in its guts for the Driveshaft and the Pump side is deeper preventing a true dual exhaust but there's no way for the fuel from the non pump side to get across to the pump???
answers simple , Twin stacks
http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc/110928/787r1/9656ade_20.jpeg
ya can pick these up in ballarat
chocco
12-11-2011, 10:21 AM
answers simple , Twin stacks
http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc/110928/787r1/9656ade_20.jpeg
ya can pick these up in ballarat
And bullbar and twin aerials but Ian has already given permission for a good old fashioned bitch slapping should he veer down the dark road
Ian you can do a dual I have been talking to these guys.
http://www.dtperformance.com.au/oldsite/crewman.htm
Not a true dual it comes together into a single rear ;)
answers simple , Twin stacks
http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/kjc/110928/787r1/9656ade_20.jpeg
ya can pick these up in ballarat
ohhh my.......
And bullbar and twin aerials but Ian has already given permission for a good old fashioned bitch slapping should he veer down the dark road
If I did that it would require a beating not just a slap :)
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Today!
Fuel system plan B-64a...
Bought home a 32US Gallon Jaz fuel cell last night but it was looking like more hassle than it was worth as it would require extensive modification to keep it emmisions compliant, and frankly I just CBF'd ;)
(damn 2 Gall tank was actually more expensive than the 32 Gall one)
Thought it over last night and returned it this morning picking up instead a 2 US Gallon ProStock cell, the idea here being I'll move the stock tank Forward and Up for IRS and Exhaust clearence, the side benefit here is I don't need to reconfigure the fuel computer (might have been "easy" but knowing my luck it'd end in disaster)
I'll use the small Cell as a surge tank and install my 2x 410Lph Densos from the last toy and use the Holden in tank pump to feed the surge tank.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog224.jpg
chocco
12-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Ian,
They have changed the rear design it is now a true dual, I am waiting for some updated pictures, one of their customers has a cross 8 with a dual 2.5 inch.
The thing is I am still confused on how a 3.5inch single is supposed to flow better than a dual 2.5.
Ian,
The thing is I am still confused on how a 3.5inch single is supposed to flow better than a dual 2.5.
less inner tubeler friction .
Ian,
They have changed the rear design it is now a true dual, I am waiting for some updated pictures, one of their customers has a cross 8 with a dual 2.5 inch.
The thing is I am still confused on how a 3.5inch single is supposed to flow better than a dual 2.5.
It doesn't ;)
2.5 x2 = 9.812
3.5 x1 = 9.616
Too close to call but I'd say the single 3.5 would be much cheaper but a lot harder to build quiet.
Today!
Went out and did some "weeding" with the Tractor then stripped off the back of the Tonner ready for the IRS install and Tank relocation.
Had a bit of a play with the new Power Tools ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog225.jpg
cashie
13-11-2011, 12:03 PM
Looking pretty bare mate....
Looking pretty bare mate....
LOL makes the upcoming butchery easier if you're not woried about setting things on fire ;)
Today End
Fuel tank is relocated!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog226.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog227.jpg
dogsballs
14-11-2011, 04:07 PM
when's the 4 link going in?!:driving:
when's the 4 link going in?!:driving:
LOL it isn't I turn corners a lot :)
IRS will be a HUGE upgrade from the Cart Axle and springs...
cashie
14-11-2011, 08:46 PM
Nice neat factory looking job (as usual)...!
Nice neat factory looking job (as usual)...!
Thanks Cashie :)
Making a start on the IRS today...
I won't be able to get the front mounts as high as a wagon/sedan without heavily notching the rails but I machined the mounts down to 2wd size so should end up about halfway between the 2.
The rest of the drop can come through spring mounts and choice.
vsute1998
15-11-2011, 07:31 AM
Looking good as allways it'll be the ultimate sleeper untill you open it up lol
Looking good as allways it'll be the ultimate sleeper untill you open it up lol
Thanks :)
It "should" surprise some fast cars!
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Today!
One thing that needed doing with the Tank relocation was addressing the Filler neck...
The Tank end is 38mm and the neck end 52mm, Holden for some reason specced what looks to be Radiator hose that's formed with a bend and one end larger but NOT being fuel rated it's bubbled/dying inside... :(
I machined up a reducer and welded it into the neck and will grab a piece of 38mm Fuel rated hose when I go to Melbourne later today!
Also picking up 2x Aeromotive Fuel Pump controllers so I can PWM/Stage the pumps so they're not running flat out all of the time.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog228.jpg
Today End!
Half day today, measured it all out and will build a Jig to locate the new mounts for the IRS, when I'm in Melbourne I'll pick up some Poly Subframe mounts in case there's a difference in installed heights.
Today p.s.
Successful trip :)
Got stuck in traffic in Epping, took 30 mins to go 1Km due to 2 big accidents...
Caught up with the guys for an awesome Indian meal <bUrP>
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog229.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog230.jpg
Today!
Got the Alignment Jig made to +- .25mm, considering the bolts are 14mm od and the bushing sleeves are 16mm id I don't see a need to get it any closer ;)
I'll do a bit more after lunch and snap some pics.
Today more!
Had to go into town to post a letter, (can't remember the last time I did that)
My Tach Adaptor I need to drive the Fuel pump controllers was waiting for me!
Today End!
I'll see if I can finish up the front mounts tomorrow, I have to gusset it and add some spreader plates.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog231.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog232.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog233.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog234.jpg
chocco
16-11-2011, 10:58 PM
Hey Ian,
Been On call this week, your goodies will be posted tomorrow. I am actually working at the moment. Hoping to go to Swan Hill tomorrow :driving: to pay for the COATING.
Cars looking good, hope your not having to many CBF'd moments.
Hey Ian,
Been On call this week, your goodies will be posted tomorrow. I am actually working at the moment. Hoping to go to Swan Hill tomorrow :driving: to pay for the COATING.
Cars looking good, hope your not having to many CBF'd moments.
LOL had wondered where you'd gotten to the forum has been quiet ;)
Today!
Just off to chase up a pair of dummy springs, the adventra ones are just too long even to use to make up the spring seats.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog235.jpg
Malus
17-11-2011, 12:04 PM
Awesome work Ian! If one man can convert a cab chassis to IRS in his shed, wtf have ford being doing for the last X number of years?
Keep the updates coming, I love reading through this build :)
zorro
17-11-2011, 12:06 PM
Awesome work Ian! If one man can convert a cab chassis to IRS in his shed, wtf have ford being doing for the last X number of years?
Keep the updates coming, I love reading through this build :)
Ford still can carry loads over 500kgs :teach:
Today!
Just off to chase up a pair of dummy springs, the adventra ones are just too long even to use to make up the spring seats.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog235.jpg
now you can cut a couple feet off the tray , lighten it right up
ala the chev in desperado
http://www.imcdb.org/i041914.jpg
Micks
17-11-2011, 01:24 PM
As you said previously reckon GM had plans of this, especially so how it all comes together!
Cheers
VYT
PAB-57L
17-11-2011, 01:40 PM
G'day Ian,
I've just caught up on the last couple of weeks of posts and I am impressed with the progress :goodjob:
Getting old this is enough for today ;)
I hear you, brother! :wave:
As I am finally getting to a point in life where I have time for my projects, I seem to need to have a "little rest" now and then. :)
Cheers,
Pete
Awesome work Ian! If one man can convert a cab chassis to IRS in his shed, wtf have ford being doing for the last X number of years?
Keep the updates coming, I love reading through this build :)
Thanks :)
I initially looked at buying a VE SS Ute then saw the load rating....
The Tonner while "better" on paper is still pretty poor from a legal standpoint, 1 fat mate and you can't carry a Tonne!
Ford still can carry loads over 500kgs :teach:
LOL'd :D
now you can cut a couple feet off the tray , lighten it right up
ala the chev in desperado
Already lost 300mm when I put the Al tray on, considering chopping the rails to tuck the Tow bar back in now I don't have the long leaf springs!
As you said previously reckon GM had plans of this, especially so how it all comes together!
Cheers
VYT
Wasn't as straight forward as I thought, not a show stopper though!
G'day Ian,
I've just caught up on the last couple of weeks of posts and I am impressed with the progress :goodjob:
I hear you, brother! :wave:
As I am finally getting to a point in life where I have time for my projects, I seem to need to have a "little rest" now and then. :)
Cheers,
Pete
LMAO Pete, I find ANY excuse to stop work these days! :)
When I was younger it'd have been finished by now!
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Today End!
Quick trip up to Bendigo to collect some Boingy bits!
Graphic illustration of why the Adventra Springs were never going to work!
Stopped at the post office and collected my Mocal Oil Thermostat.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog236.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog237.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog238.jpg
LMAO Pete, I find ANY excuse to stop work these days! :)
When I was younger it'd have been finished by now!
and now it's time for some warm horlix and your blanky :wave:
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/386eab57-4ffa-4d1a-802d-9928b9aedb38.jpg :)
Today End!
Got the Rear Diff mount done, I don't think it's falling out anytime soon ;)
Did a Mock up to check ride height with simulated full fuel tank and exhaust, I need to notch the rail for the spring seats.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog239.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog240.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog241.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog242.jpg
Ok just did the calcs it's down 30mm from stock....
Not enough dammit, need another 30 ;)
(forgot to measure it at stock height... doh, just dug up- an old pic and scaled it)
I see that nap did you well :wave:
I see that nap did you well :wave:
Overdue for another :p
Micks
18-11-2011, 04:48 PM
Ok just did the calcs it's down 30mm from stock....
Not enough dammit, need another 30 ;)
(forgot to measure it at stock height... doh, just dug up- an old pic and scaled it)
You certainly haven't been watchin Colour Tele IJ!!!
Dunno bout that looks bloody great as is, can always throw another set of coils in later after all!
BTW let me know how it handles on the bitumen or % improvement on the Live axle perhaps??
Cheers
VYT
You certainly haven't been watchin Colour Tele IJ!!!
Dunno bout that looks bloody great as is, can always throw another set of coils in later after all!
BTW let me know how it handles on the bitumen or % improvement on the Live axle perhaps??
Cheers
VYT
These are about as short as they get ;)
I'll drop it another 30, I can always raise it if needed.
(didn't get the TV Ref??)
If you get a chance can you snap a pic from the side showing the rear wheel/tire/rail?
Micks
18-11-2011, 05:55 PM
These are about as short as they get ;)
I'll drop it another 30, I can always raise it if needed.
(didn't get the TV Ref??)
If you get a chance can you snap a pic from the side showing the rear wheel/tire/rail?
Will do, I meant ya haven't been sitting around watchin Tele obviously :teach:
Cheers
VYT
Will do, I meant ya haven't been sitting around watchin Tele obviously :teach:
Cheers
VYT
LOL Mike with ya now!! :D
(us old guys can be a bit at times)
Today!
Too wet to mow the grass so I went out early this morning and dropped the front, pulled the rear springs out and lowered it on the jack to get a feel for how low the rear needs to go :)
Once that was done we headed into town for some lunch, my day is done but Al is just starting his Blower install.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog243.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog244.jpg
cashie
19-11-2011, 01:49 PM
Some bloody nice work on the diff mount..
I liked the 30mm drop, looked good.... 60mm will be low and tuff though
seldo
19-11-2011, 02:43 PM
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog242.jpg
Are you going to put a skid/deflector plate on that rear sub-frame mount Ian? Looks like a likely place to get hung-up on a rock.
Are you going to put a skid/deflector plate on that rear sub-frame mount Ian? Looks like a likely place to get hung-up on a rock.
I'VE got a set of 30's on 20's off a rangie he can borrow :wave:
Some bloody nice work on the diff mount..
I liked the 30mm drop, looked good.... 60mm will be low and tuff though
Front came down 68mm, it still has 120mm clearence with the stock wheels/tires that will come up another 15 with the SSV's :D
Are you going to put a skid/deflector plate on that rear sub-frame mount Ian? Looks like a likely place to get hung-up on a rock.
It'll never go off road again ;)
But yep I will be bracing it up once I set the final ride height and clearences!
I'VE got a set of 30's on 20's off a rangie he can borrow :wave:
Pass :)
Today End!
Caught up on a heap of neglected house/yard work yesterday so no progress on the car...
Went out this morning and made a start on the exhaust as I needed the IRS in place to get accurate measurements for the custom mufflers and pipe routing, got a bit done then the power went off...
Plugged the Generator in so I could get to the measuring point then headed down to Difilipo's and ordered the Mufflers, came back and did a little more, gone about as far as I can till I get the Mufflers.
(it's all just tacked together as I still need to split the pipes and build the Cross over/balance section just ahead of the Hot Dogs)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog245.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog246.jpg
Today End!
Finished off the Notches in the rails for the rear control arm clearence, also reworked the spare tire winch so the spare can go on top of the rails leaving clear space for the nre rear mufflers!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog247.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog248.jpg
chocco
23-11-2011, 05:09 PM
Looking good Ian, everyday just that little bit closer. Looks better in the flesh though.
How'd the back pull up after a days mowing ???
Looking good Ian, everyday just that little bit closer. Looks better in the flesh though.
How'd the back pull up after a days mowing ???
Thanks Marc :)
Not too bad, I got a bit sun burnt when I was up on the roof though :(
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Today More!
Difilipo's got my Mufflers done so I zipped down to collect them :D
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog249.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog250.jpg
doubledip
23-11-2011, 06:07 PM
you dont muck around do you
you dont muck around do you
No time to muck around I'm old ;)
cashie
23-11-2011, 09:56 PM
Is there anything you can't fabricate in that shed?
Is there anything you can't fabricate in that shed?
Not a whole lot ;)
A lot of times though it's more cost effective to farm the work out to places that are geared to do it!
i.e. Mufflers, last year I made a centre muffler for a mates V8 Soarer that took me quite a few hours to complete, just not worth doing it here for what Difilios charge!
Ditto on the Stub axles and axles for the IRS 9" I built for the last toy, I farmed those out to Harrop, could have done them here but I was busy doing other parts at the time that were generating funds so out they went>>> :)
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Today!
Copped a bit of a welding Flash yesterday....
Haven't had one in decades (was too lazy to grab the helmet and just turned my head... reflection got me)
Damn uncomfortable so not much work today :(
Is there anything you can't fabricate in that shed?
he probably fabricates his own condoms .....
he probably fabricates his own condoms .....
That would imply I have sex...
one thing up here is a total lack of bonkable women folk ;)
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Today more!
Just got back from a trip to Bendigo to collect a few bits and pieces and materials, I'll go down after lunch and do a bit more, My Wheelspeed Sensors Exhaust Hanger rubbers and Clips arrived from Holden this morning.
cashie
24-11-2011, 12:41 PM
That would imply I have sex...
one thing up here is a total lack of bonkable women folk!
With the toys in your shed I could almost forego that... :p
With the toys in your shed I could almost forego that... :p
he'd put a whole new spin on it :driving:
zorro
24-11-2011, 02:45 PM
With the toys in your shed I could almost forego that... :p
Can't shag a car though :teach:
Or umm.......
http://img.tapatalk.com/7b628a04-cbc9-27e2.jpg
With the toys in your shed I could almost forego that... :p
LOL it'd be nice to have both ;)
he'd put a whole new spin on it :driving:
lol
Can't shag a car though :teach:
Or umm.......
Took awhile here at LS1 Forum to get to "WrongTown" but there ya go :D
(on my home site my threads usually get there by page #2 ;) )
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Today End!
And that's me done for the day!
Considering the late start I think I've done ok!
Did a few "cheats" that wouldn't cut it for production type work but seeing this is a one off I can get away with it!
I'll get it all hung properly tomorrow then rip it out Monday for finish welding!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog251.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog252.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog253.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog254.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog255.jpg
cashie
24-11-2011, 03:31 PM
How tidy does that look, awesome job, keen to see it finished..
Did you say what you're doing with the tray? What's going back on?
How tidy does that look, awesome job, keen to see it finished..
Did you say what you're doing with the tray? What's going back on?
Thanks :D
Same Tray is going back on, it's only 70Kg's as opposed to the original steel one at 320 Kg's...
I'll either paint it Satin Black of hit it with the Mag wheel cleaner so it oxidises the new shiny bits, I'm trying to keep as much weight out of it as possible but I won't sacrifice creature comforts to do so!
Ditching the Depleted Uranium Stock steel wheels/tires is a step in the right direction, they're 4Kg's heavier per wheel than the SSV 19's that are going on.
zorro
24-11-2011, 03:50 PM
Took awhile here at LS1 Forum to get to "WrongTown" but there ya go :D
(on my home site my threads usually get there by page #2 ;) )
I am behaved these days especially on here I've pushed the line a few times :lol:
Might have to visit your forum one day
I am behaved these days especially on here I've pushed the line a few times :lol:
Might have to visit your forum one day
I'm a "SuperMod" over there, gives me an excuse to wear my jocks on the outside!!
Misbehave and I'll... I'll probably laugh and get distracted by something shiny and wander off...
I'm oldNforget shit!
zorro
24-11-2011, 07:31 PM
What's the forum??? :lol:
chocco
24-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Ian that exhaust is bloody impressive, think I might have to make another trip just to check out the exhaust.
U planning on putting it back on the dyno before you start the real engine mods to see what the gain is ???
:bow:
What's the forum??? :lol:
SupraMania :)
Ian that exhaust is bloody impressive, think I might have to make another trip just to check out the exhaust.
U planning on putting it back on the dyno before you start the real engine mods to see what the gain is ???
:bow:
Thanks Marc :)
Don't really plan to as it would mean reconnecting the stock brakes, fuel system and do something with the Diff just for one run.
edelbrock1
24-11-2011, 09:05 PM
I am a big fan of the wire exhaust hangers... Simple yet effective. Are you going to whip up a cover on the CNC so the boys in blue can not see the wire?
:stick:
I am a big fan of the wire exhaust hangers... Simple yet effective. Are you going to whip up a cover on the CNC so the boys in blue can not see the wire?
:stick:
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Today End!
And that's me done for the day!
Considering the late start I think I've done ok!
Did a few "cheats" that wouldn't cut it for production type work but seeing this is a one off I can get away with it!
I'll get it all hung properly tomorrow then rip it out Monday for finish welding!
:p....<jk>
why'd u go twin mufflers on each side and what are the perforated pipes in the middle
and r you going to at least powder coat the wire hangers and how can u not score in bendigo ? :wave:
why'd u go twin mufflers on each side and what are the perforated pipes in the middle
and r you going to at least powder coat the wire hangers and how can u not score in bendigo ? :wave:
3" is hard to quiet down, The big hot dogs?
Wires are gone :p
Been to Bendigo recently?
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Today End!
All hung, I finished off the rear pipes and Mufflers.. some of THE worst welding I've ever done :( that and I'm covered in burns.. anti spatter works to keep the spatter and slag off the Stainless but when you're welding vertical up guess where it all ends up.....
Hit the welds with the sander to make them a little more presentable then blew some Exhaust black over it, I'll do the front half on Monday.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog256.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog257.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog258.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog259.jpg
Micks
25-11-2011, 04:49 PM
Bloody nice job IJ, but you already know that!
Cheers
VYT
Thanks :D
I have NFI what went on with the welding, think I lost all my happy thoughts or something... :(
edelbrock1
26-11-2011, 11:32 AM
:p....<jk>
It isnt my fault. As soon as you put pictures in the thread, I get all excited with the pretty colors and stuff and forget all about reading the text..
Righto now for a serious question...
The tail shaft does not look to have been changed or modified. Was this just luck that it was the right length, or did you place the IRS so that it was in the right place for the tail shaft length? The way I see if you did not have much option for placing the IRS, so I am thinking lucky break.
Did the wheel base change at all??
It isnt my fault. As soon as you put pictures in the thread, I get all excited with the pretty colors and stuff and forget all about reading the text..
Righto now for a serious question...
The tail shaft does not look to have been changed or modified. Was this just luck that it was the right length, or did you place the IRS so that it was in the right place for the tail shaft length? The way I see if you did not have much option for placing the IRS, so I am thinking lucky break.
Did the wheel base change at all??
Corrcet, shaft is stock length, the IRS Flange is shorter but I wanted to run the big Tonner rear CV joint so fitted a Tonner flange so wheelbase is "stock"
I was tossing the idea around of shortening it but quite like the stability that comes with the wide track long wheelbase.
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Today End!
Figured why wait till Monday ;)
All finished, I added in an extra set of WB02 bungs before the Cats for tuning.
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog260.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog261.jpg
Today!
Spent the morning up on the Shed roof cleaning gutters, scissor lift made life a little easier, once that was done I figured I'm out there anyway may as well cut out the back panel on the Tray for Spare wheel access now it's mounted on top of the chassis instead of under it. :)
chocco
27-11-2011, 01:14 PM
Today!
Spent the morning up on the Shed roof cleaning gutters, scissor lift made life a little easier, once that was done I figured I'm out there anyway may as well cut out the back panel on the Tray for Spare wheel access now it's mounted on top of the chassis instead of under it. :)
Silly me, Doesnt everyone clean their gutters with a scissor
lift now days
Silly me, Doesnt everyone clean their gutters with a scissor
lift now days
:p I'm NOT a big fan of ladders, if I fell off I could be there for a week before anyone found me :(
<jk>
chocco
27-11-2011, 01:32 PM
:p I'm NOT a big fan of ladders, if I fell off I could be there for a week before anyone found me :(
<jk>
Exhaust looks great how does it sound ?
Exhaust looks great how does it sound ?
Dunno haven't fired it up (no fuel system)
<fingers crossed> it's under 90 Db if not I'm shit out of room for more mufflers ;)
chocco
27-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Dunno haven't fired it up (no fuel system)
<fingers crossed> it's under 90 Db if not I'm shit out of room for more mufflers ;)
I thought you would have jerry rigged something to fire it up, it would be killing me not knowing !
I thought you would have jerry rigged something to fire it up, it would be killing me not knowing !
Nah it can wait ;)
Just happy it's finished, always like to have a full exhaust on a new engine for the first fire up (makes it easier to hear if anything is "wrong")
This is my first non Turbo build in probably 20 years so getting it "legal" noise wise is new ground for me, a Turbo makes it so much less of an issue.
:p I'm NOT a big fan of ladders, if I fell off I could be there for a week before anyone found me :(
<jk>
don't worry , if u went 2 days without a post , chocco would come a looking
don't worry , if u went 2 days without a post , chocco would come a looking
LMAO my family use the other forum to check if I'm still alive ;)
chocco
27-11-2011, 03:51 PM
don't worry , if u went 2 days without a post , chocco would come a looking
:driving::lmao:
:driving::lmao:
^ I'm guessing that's you driving up to pick me up after I fall off the Shed?? ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/move50.jpg
Today End!
My 100mm Lingenfelter MAF Sensor came in along with the other 2 Chrome tips to finish up the exhaust :)
Made a start on finishing off the IRS Mounts.......
All was going well until it wasn't.. :(
Slipped with the 7" Disc Sander said "oww" and continued working... till my boot started to fill up...
Quick trip into town 4 stitches in my right knee later it's all good!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog262.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog263.jpg
jono0309
28-11-2011, 07:29 PM
Very nice exhaust man, looks great!
Wow, be careful man, could have been much worse than a few stitches!
Have fun.
Very nice exhaust man, looks great!
Wow, be careful man, could have been much worse than a few stitches!
Have fun.
Thanks Jono! :)
This was me being careful ;)
mickeyVX350
29-11-2011, 09:49 AM
Pics or Didn't happen Dad!
We have pics of all your other handy work!
don't worry about him , on reading the news chocco had a panic attack
and is currently doped up on zoloft :wave:
Pics or Didn't happen Dad!
We have pics of all your other handy work!
Next time I change the dressing :p
don't worry about him , on reading the news chocco had a panic attack
and is currently doped up on zoloft :wave:
LOL fresh scratching post to XUV's place ;)
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Today End..
Bit tired and 2nd hand (leg is a bot sore after being on my feet all day, tommorow might be a day of rest I thinks) but the front mounts are finished and aren't about to fall off anytime soon ;)
Just have the Spring seats and Shock mounts left and the IRS is done!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog264.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog265.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog266.jpg
chocco
29-11-2011, 04:40 PM
don't worry about him , on reading the news chocco had a panic attack
and is currently doped up on zoloft :wave:
:werd::eeeeek:
Is it pick on Chooco week this week, funny story, motor bike hit the work car today trying to cut thru the traffiic, then did a runner, went to the cop station, officer says any damage to the vehicle, I replied only on his helmet were he went head first into my drivers mirror !!!
As Mickey said, if theres no pic's then it didnt happen
Today!
Made a start on the Rear spring seats then ran out of Grinding and Sanding discs, went to Bendigo and had to hit 6 places to get everything I needed...
Picked up some Gutter Guard stuff to keep the leaves and crap out of em.
Dropped the car back on the ground and loaded up the Tray to simulate full tanks/battery and so on, the Front is a bit low so I might change out the Springs depending on what happens with the Blower weight being added..
Always wondered WTF Holden did to make these things so damn heavy.. Traditionally Tonners have been the lightest full size cars they make, not so this time....
Mine was actually 50 Kg's heavier than my V8 Wagon back when it was a V6, cutting into the rails for the Spring seats ALL was revealed (last pic)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog267.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog272.jpg
Micks
01-12-2011, 05:00 PM
Gee they used Real steel there IJ!
Cheers
VYT
Gee they used Real steel there IJ!
Cheers
VYT
LOL and shit loads of it :D
Pics or Didn't happen Dad!
We have pics of all your other handy work!
Here ya go Son ;)
(damn lucky I heal well ;) )
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog273.jpg
Today p.s.
Coke can is 130mm tall, legal minimum here is 100mm so it's "safe" ;)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog274.jpg
chocco
01-12-2011, 06:08 PM
Soo it did happen !!!!!!
Hey Ian, Just thought I would let you know towing the van back today at 90km, amb 20deg, Tranny was running between 88 and 90. About 6 deg cooler, still have to do one more change, as I only drained 7 ltrs so 3ltrs left, should go a lttle better.
Good job !!!
Just wish those rims were load rated for the crewman they look the goods on the tonner.
Soo it did happen !!!!!!
Hey Ian, Just thought I would let you know towing the van back today at 90km, amb 20deg, Tranny was running between 88 and 90. About 6 deg cooler, still have to do one more change, as I only drained 7 ltrs so 3ltrs left, should go a lttle better.
Good job !!!
Just wish those rims were load rated for the crewman they look the goods on the tonner.
LOL of course it "happened" :p
Good stuff on the Temps!
Would like to see it @ 110 as Vans pootling along at 90 shit me to tears :cussing:
chocco
01-12-2011, 06:17 PM
LOL of course it "happened" :p
Good stuff on the Temps!
Would like to see it @ 110 as Vans pootling along at 90 shit me to tears :cussing:
Yes I know, so to answer your question I am shitting myself to tears !!!
Yes I know, so to answer your question I am shitting myself to tears !!!
It brings out the "Mick Taylor" in me :vpo: <jk>
(Wolf Creek)
cashie
01-12-2011, 08:57 PM
This is really looking good, wheels really suit it, I like the height too
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog267.jpg
Thanks Cashie! :)
I think it may just be an optical illusion, to me it looked slammed and way under legal height at the front, guess it's just the past year looking at it in it's Monster Truck stock height!
doubledip
02-12-2011, 07:33 AM
I have to agree with Cashie as well i think the stance/look really suits it .. from that picture i wouldnt go touching the ride height
I have to agree with Cashie as well i think the stance/look really suits it .. from that picture i wouldnt go touching the ride height
Thanks Justin :)
It's growing on me, I loaded the engine bay up with a simulated Blower and it only dropped another 10mm so I'll take a touch more out of the rear to maintain the same stance!
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Today!
Nothing much to show yet it's just the "Daily Grind" prepping the rails for the new Spring Seats, I spent the morning boxing in the internal rails I cut through yesterday, probably not needed but overkill is good when it's my ass on the line!
Today End!
Decided to skip dinner and push on and get it done :)
Finished up at 10:45pm, IRS is mounted, Shocks are mounted, Spring Seats are done, Reinforced the Chassis where I had to notch it in 2 planes so it should be stronger than stock, I'll snap some pics tomorrow after I clean up the shed.
chocco
03-12-2011, 09:00 AM
Is the tank in and primed for start ?
cashie
03-12-2011, 10:06 AM
Is the tank in and primed for start ?
And where are the pics. ;)
chocco
03-12-2011, 11:00 AM
And where are the pics. ;)
I think Ian is sleeping in, not used to being up till pumpkin o'clock
Is the tank in and primed for start ?
Nyet :p
And where are the pics. ;)
Umm errr ahhh well you see.....
I think Ian is sleeping in, not used to being up till pumpkin o'clock
Nuh uh, I was up at my usual time, bolted the tray on loaded it up, I had dropped it too much in the rear so made up some 10mm shims to go under the springs and noticed ....
I had SCREWED the pooch on the spring seats so badly... :(
All of my IRS cars for the last 15+ years have been double A arm rear so move in a straight line, slipped my mind totally that the Commodore IRS is swing axle and travels in an Arc... DOH I placed the seats vertical above the swing arm seat...
I worked out a "fix" but need to buy more plate to do it as one of the pieces I have left is 10mm too short.... ARGHHHH
Got pissed off/depressed so watched Al pull his Soarer apart to fit the Blower, got a little bit of "Blower Envy" so pulled the Intake off mine so I could Trial Fit the Stealth and sort out the Belt run and where the Idler shall live!
Been helping Al since then, have his Blower on!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog275.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog276.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog277.jpg
chocco
03-12-2011, 09:32 PM
I have blower envy
I have blower envy
LOL everybodies doing it :D
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog278.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog279.jpg
Nastas
04-12-2011, 07:45 AM
Sounds like this thing will be a true weapon. Good to see something this unique going ahead
chocco
04-12-2011, 01:14 PM
LOL everybodies doing it :D
The other day I was saying how I was cursed at the moment when trying to get money together to spend on the car,
Kids just blew up the MICROWAVE, FFS.:cussing::bawl::mad::doh:
Sounds like this thing will be a true weapon. Good to see something this unique going ahead
Thanks Nas! :)
I think it should be a bundleOfun for sure!
The other day I was saying how I was cursed at the moment when trying to get money together to spend on the car,
Kids just blew up the MICROWAVE, FFS.:cussing::bawl::mad::doh:
LOL sorry I shouldn't laugh... :yahoo:
Today End!
After the weekend's debacle/s (Soarer sneezed a blower gasket)
I did a trip down to Melbourne to collect some of the hard to find up here consumables, also bought a fireproof Welding Jacket (better late then never)
Picked up a "spare" engine stand for the L98 rebuild as mine is covered in V6 ugliness, Called into Harrop's to give the guys an update on the project and what I have planned for the Idler mount.
Shot back up to Bendigo and collected some more Steel so I can correct last week's BrainFart..
Just threw a huge Aged Rump Steak on the BBQ for dinner :D
zorro
05-12-2011, 05:26 PM
Good work on the soarer install, just curious was this a kit or a bitsa?
Only reason I ask be it irrelevant now we tried to do a mates years ago and the only producers of a full kit so to speak in Aus were aec supercars ( the blokes who put the v8s into mx5s) and they flat out refused to sell a kit or give any details so we pulled the 8 and it got a monster 2jz put in it lol.
Good work on the soarer install, just curious was this a kit or a bitsa?
Only reason I ask be it irrelevant now we tried to do a mates years ago and the only producers of a full kit so to speak in Aus were aec supercars ( the blokes who put the v8s into mx5s) and they flat out refused to sell a kit or give any details so we pulled the 8 and it got a monster 2jz put in it lol.
My Mate had the Manifold made in Canada, it's a "kit" just not a very comprehensive one, we had to make a bunch of parts for it, the manifold is a bit questionable as it's quite warped, the Canadian told my mate that it all pulls down flat when installed....
Maybe so when it's T0/annealed but it's had a couple of weeks to harden back up so I'm not sure.
Micks
05-12-2011, 05:54 PM
Today End!
After the weekend's debacle/s (Soarer sneezed a blower gasket)
I did a trip down to Melbourne to collect some of the hard to find up here consumables, also bought a fireproof Welding Jacket (better late then never)
Picked up a "spare" engine stand for the L98 rebuild as mine is covered in V6 ugliness, Called into Harrop's to give the guys an update on the project and what I have planned for the Idler mount.
Shot back up to Bendigo and collected some more Steel so I can correct last week's BrainFart..
Just threw a huge Aged Rump Steak on the BBQ for dinner :D
@ least your looking after yourself! ;)
Cheers
VYT
@ least your looking after yourself! ;)
Cheers
VYT
Which the Jacket or the Steak?? ;)
cashie
05-12-2011, 07:58 PM
The steak of course...
The steak of course...
LOL I think maybe NOT setting myself alight could be as good ;)
cashie
05-12-2011, 08:14 PM
LOL I think maybe NOT setting myself alight could be as good ;)
Or the aged rump... ;)
Or the aged rump... ;)
The Rump was pretty damn good :D
Potato salad and coleslaw as sides agglllhhhh <Homer Drool>
cashie
05-12-2011, 09:23 PM
The Rump was pretty damn good :D
Potato salad and coleslaw as sides agglllhhhh <Homer Drool>
You make me jealous for your lifestyle on so many fronts......tease! :p
You make me jealous for your lifestyle on so many fronts......tease! :p
LOL at times it sucks to be me but in general it's pretty damn cool :jester:
Micks
06-12-2011, 05:22 AM
Everyone's got problems mate just don't dwell on em!
The build is looking great & as said previously the wheels really suit the Tonner.
Cheers
VYT
Everyone's got problems mate just don't dwell on em!
The build is looking great & as said previously the wheels really suit the Tonner.
Cheers
VYT
LMAO Mike, I don't dwell, I move onwards/upwards always :D
Wrote the last Multi$/year project car off a couple of weeks before moving house last year with only 700 Km's on it... put it down to "shit happens" brushed myself off and started again.
Thanks on the wheels, I'm really happy with the choice and I think the larger rubber sets them off compared to the o-rings that were on the same wheels I tried on the Wagon!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog267.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog197.jpg
zorro
06-12-2011, 06:06 AM
You make me jealous for your lifestyle on so many fronts......tease! :p
And a slight hint of a man crush??? :lol:
Ij thanks for that info, yeah seems a bit iffy on the 'torque an sits flat' but you never know. I've got a mate with a 1uz in a hilux, I'll pass on that info
And a slight hint of a man crush??? :lol:
Ij thanks for that info, yeah seems a bit iffy on the 'torque an sits flat' but you never know. I've got a mate with a 1uz in a hilux, I'll pass on that info
No probs Z!
I've made a bunch of 7M I-6 manifolds in the past and no matter what I tried always had warpage so ended up machining the flange to get them flat enough to seal so have my doubts..
Pity Bullet won't sell intakes on their own.
zorro
06-12-2011, 06:33 AM
Tell me about it, short of hanging up on us they were not interested in selling nor interested in doing an install either, which I can understand the install as those things are more of a pain in the arse than a 300zx
Tell me about it, short of hanging up on us they were not interested in selling nor interested in doing an install either, which I can understand the install as those things are more of a pain in the arse than a 300zx
Yeah I just don't get it, a sale is a sale surely they don't have just enough intakes cast for the Kits... it's not like there's a huge market for blown uz's either, having said that their kits aren't too exe.
zorro
06-12-2011, 07:15 AM
I'd say the market is small so they would do minimum ordering, in saying that likewise wouldn't hurt to throw a few together for retail, even their na trumpet setup would be cool.
I'd say the uz getting well on and the availability of ls based motors and parts for too much of a steal these days to get to the same area power wise the jap v8s just aren't a viable option. A mate put a vh45 into his 300zx, made his own headers, bellhousing and custom fabbed a dry sump setup but drive the thing for a week and put the vg30tt back in :lol:
cashie
06-12-2011, 08:18 AM
And a slight hint of a man crush??? :lol:
Just a toy crush... :p
I'd say the market is small so they would do minimum ordering, in saying that likewise wouldn't hurt to throw a few together for retail, even their na trumpet setup would be cool.
I'd say the uz getting well on and the availability of ls based motors and parts for too much of a steal these days to get to the same area power wise the jap v8s just aren't a viable option. A mate put a vh45 into his 300zx, made his own headers, bellhousing and custom fabbed a dry sump setup but drive the thing for a week and put the vg30tt back in :lol:
Yep last car had a 410rwkw 7M that took many many years to develop so it would stay together, decided to do something "different" looked at a uz but dismissed it as a lot of work for +1000cc, went L98 instead.
Just a toy crush... :p
I'm a bit hurt :p
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Today!
All going well till it wasn't #2.... ARGHHHH I HATE this Disc Sander..
Working at about head height, hooked a corner it kicked back and I managed to break it's fall.... with my face.. :(
Full on tourettes this time had a tanty and heaved it across the shed and out the door, thought I'd broken my nose.. (again)
Nah just a couple of cuts from the edge and an abrasion on the side of my nose (gonna hurt like a bitch later)
Sad thing is I still have to go back out after lunch and finish what I was doing when it got me..
hurl sander far away and buy kinder sander .
I was using a flexi headed ratchet once , i pushed it flexed , knuckles bled ,
ratchet was hurled backwards over the shed into a paddock ,
dads wanders in with said ratchet and says '' look what i found , any good too you ''
if only i had my plasma cutter back then .........
you should bring ya ute up b4 blower goes on ,
we'll have a drag HSV LS1 270 v L98 270 .
What's yours weigh now ??
hurl sander far away and buy kinder sander .
I was using a flexi headed ratchet once , i pushed it flexed , knuckles bled ,
ratchet was hurled backwards over the shed into a paddock ,
dads wanders in with said ratchet and says '' look what i found , any good too you ''
if only i had my plasma cutter back then .........
you should bring ya ute up b4 blower goes on ,
we'll have a drag HSV LS1 270 v L98 270 .
What's yours weigh now ??
LOL @ "Dad" :D
Mine is about 1800 now, it won't run again without the blower, it's too much hassle to set things up just for curiosity sake X.
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Today End!
My Face Hurts!!
Now that's out of the way I've caught up to where I thought I was at the end of Friday last week!
+ a bit as I've added in a new Brace to build my Tow bar on!
I dislike reworking things as they always look like ass afterwards but this time I think it came out ok!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog280.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog281.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog282.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog283.jpg
seldo
06-12-2011, 10:51 PM
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Today End!
My Face Hurts!!
Now that's out of the way I've caught up to where I thought I was at the end of Friday last week!
+ a bit as I've added in a new Brace to build my Tow bar on!
I dislike reworking things as they always look like ass afterwards but this time I think it came out ok!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog280.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog281.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog282.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog283.jpgMmm. That all looks much better. I gather you've added the bridge above the spring top seat, which should do the job, but, without wanting to add to your problems it seems to me that the location of the top mounts for the shocks are now determining a "falling-rate" effect for the shocks, due to the arc of the lower control arm.... It almost seems to me that the top-shock-mount needs to come to the other side of the chassis-rail that it's currently mounted to...
Maybe you've drawn it up to the contrary, but from the photos, that what it looks like to me...
I think I'd also like to see a gusset on the rails above the drive-shaft....:D
Sorry :)
Thanks for the input Seldo,
Yep added in the bridges along with another box on the sides of the rails directly above the springs, along with reboxing the internal structure don't think it's going anywhere.
Stock Holden IRS Geometry on the Springs/Shocks, Due to the ARC the LCA follows I don't think there is much falling Spring rate to it, I had them set up Rising rate (top perch vertical above the lower) but even after 1 weekend of sitting on the ground it was deforming the top spring eye and the bump stops didn't line up.
The "rails" are the fuel tank mounts and I think the 4mm plate used is enough due to being canted inwards so no real need to gusset it up ;)
Today!
Needed to get an accurate ride height so I can build the new Tow bar and have it within 5mm height of the one on the Wagon :)
All down, I'll see how I feel tomorrow and get it done maybe!
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog284.jpg
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog285.jpg
edelbrock1
07-12-2011, 11:16 AM
Have you done anything with the ride height at the front? It looks damn close to perfect.
I am toying with the idea of putting an Adventra driveline in a Coupe (just so that I can go spastic with it and not have to worry about rooting up an original Coupe 4) and the high suspension on the Adventra concerns me, I do not really want to have to put all the Coupe4 stuff in it to get it low. But if I could get it looking like yours I would be a happy man..
So what did you do? if anything?
Thanks
Have you done anything with the ride height at the front? It looks damn close to perfect.
I am toying with the idea of putting an Adventra driveline in a Coupe (just so that I can go spastic with it and not have to worry about rooting up an original Coupe 4) and the high suspension on the Adventra concerns me, I do not really want to have to put all the Coupe4 stuff in it to get it low. But if I could get it looking like yours I would be a happy man..
So what did you do? if anything?
Thanks
Coupe 4 Struts and Kings Springs is it :)
seldo
07-12-2011, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the input Seldo,
Yep added in the bridges along with another box on the sides of the rails directly above the springs, along with reboxing the internal structure don't think it's going anywhere.
Stock Holden IRS Geometry on the Springs/Shocks, Due to the ARC the LCA follows I don't think there is much falling Spring rate to it, I had them set up Rising rate (top perch vertical above the lower) but even after 1 weekend of sitting on the ground it was deforming the top spring eye and the bump stops didn't line up.
The "rails" are the fuel tank mounts and I think the 4mm plate used is enough due to being canted inwards so no real need to gusset it up ;)I think it was late when I sent that and for some reason only looked at this shot.
From the others I can see plenty of strength. :)
Please disregard :)
http://ij.supramania.com/public/prog280.jpg
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