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Stolen Senator
05-11-2011, 10:15 PM
On Tuesday morning 01/11/11 at 4am some low life's tried stealing my brand new, HSV Senator from the driveway. They pulled out the back passenger window to get in but couldn't start it.
So they broke into my home while the family was asleep and took the keys. The wife woke up but it was to late and they took the car.
It is believed to maybe be in Cambelltown area?
Its the only 1 in Sydney (I know of?) as a special order being white, red leather interior, manual, tinted windows and sunroof and modified by Walkinshaw Performance.
Number plates are - BUA00M
Unlikely we will see her again but I will post a reward $5k for the car and $20k for the people who took it.
The police, detectives and myself agree the car was specifically targeted for a specific purpose and someone knows someone who has her
As I have not posted before I can not add photos or links but please visit amcca.com.au or the mocca.com.au for photos.
Any assistance would be appreciated
awesome _vzss
05-11-2011, 10:29 PM
Sorry to hear bud,got a few mates in campbelltown ill spread the word.
I hope they catch these low lifes and you get the car back in one piece.
stealth vn
05-11-2011, 11:01 PM
share your pain however mine wasnt quite like urs mine was only a vz commodore but sure as hell shits me that there are f#$@ heads out there who do it
all the best catching them hope was insured
Plenty
06-11-2011, 12:18 AM
Here is the car......
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Stampy
06-11-2011, 06:08 AM
Hope they find the scumbags!!!!
Seshoo
06-11-2011, 06:23 AM
Hope they find it for you mate, its a real nice car
SV300
06-11-2011, 07:04 AM
Yeh not good at all.
That's why I have invested in GPS tracking.
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Stolen Senator
06-11-2011, 08:22 AM
Thank you for posting the photos - really appreciate it
Yes, should have installed the GPS tracking but didn't think people would go to those lengths in a suburban area. Lesson learned and by making this post if it helps 1 other owner then great
Even with the tracking they would have still invaded my home and put my family at risk. I can replace the car, can't replace family.
Hence if I get the car back is 1 thing but catching the people responsible so they don't do it again is my aim.
Thanks again
SV300
06-11-2011, 08:33 AM
Well put it this way, in Adelaide recently a HSV with gps tracker was located within hours of being stolen. When located in a warehouse the found ten or so other HSV cars.
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team illucid
06-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Yeh not good at all.
That's why I have invested in GPS tracking.
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What GPS system do you use?
Samurai Trader
06-11-2011, 09:14 AM
i know your probably crushed after losing your car..
But the question everyone is wondering is.. did they get your hat??!!
That ****er is stylish...
Sorry about the car mate. gopod luck trying get it back, hope it works out for u.
mechatron
06-11-2011, 09:32 AM
Was it insured? I sure hope so....
But by the sounds of it (& with the reward you're offering)...it probably wasn't
Kuzman89
06-11-2011, 10:29 AM
I remember back when I was 19 having the rims off my car stolen, and how devastated I felt then, considering $2500 was pretty big money for me. Can't imagine my whole car being stolen, I hope you catch the filthy c*nts. Why people think they are entitled to someone elses hard earned will never make sense to me. I hope it was insured!
crackelaktor
06-11-2011, 10:37 AM
Thank you for posting the photos - really appreciate it
Yes, should have installed the GPS tracking but didn't think people would go to those lengths in a suburban area. Lesson learned and by making this post if it helps 1 other owner then great
Even with the tracking they would have still invaded my home and put my family at risk. I can replace the car, can't replace family.
Hence if I get the car back is 1 thing but catching the people responsible so they don't do it again is my aim.
Thanks again
A$200 kill switch can help delay them starting the car with your keys but a GPS is well worth it. I have a Quiktrak and have a login to the portal so I can see my cars location, the speed it is travelling and have it disabled via Quiktrak. The kill switch is a small addon as well which helps.
I hope you find you car and hope the wankers who stole it fall under a bus.
Smashfist
06-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I'm tempted to buy an old iPhone, set it up with "Find my iPhone", and hide it inside the body or trim of my car - hooked up ofc to keep it charged. GPS tracking on the cheap :)
Hope you find it mate and hope you get the chance to beat them until their teeth fall out.
SV300
06-11-2011, 12:10 PM
What GPS system do you use?
We I will say its not quicktrak. Public forum and all so no specifics.
J
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crackelaktor
06-11-2011, 12:16 PM
A$200 kill switch can help delay them starting the car with your keys but a GPS is well worth it. I have a Quiktrak and have a login to the portal so I can see my cars location, the speed it is travelling and have it disabled via Quiktrak. The kill switch is a small addon as well which helps.
I hope you find you car and hope the wankers who stole it fall under a bus.
http://img.tapatalk.com/7ca88a42-ecdf-fbaf.jpg
And this is where my car is now. Very handy to have this capability indeed. Again, GPS is worth it. Interested whether any other GPS brands provides real time data.
cashie
06-11-2011, 01:21 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/7ca88a42-ecdf-fbaf.jpg
And this is where my car is now. Very handy to have this capability indeed. Again, GPS is worth it. Interested whether any other GPS brands provides real time data.
I hope that's not your home address....
seedyrom
06-11-2011, 01:42 PM
I hope that's not your home address....
I think he's safe ..... or the crims are doing some shopping :)
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cashie
06-11-2011, 01:48 PM
Good one... :D
silvervyss
06-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Sorry to hear about the car, but I would be more concerned about how they entered your house. Maybe you should be beef up your home security alarm/window locks/sensor lights/dog etc. I know if they want the car they will eventually get it, however breaking into your house shouldn't be an option.
crackelaktor
06-11-2011, 03:04 PM
I hope that's not your home address....
I don't think so.....not even close.
ls1 VN
06-11-2011, 03:34 PM
Assuming they left the window on the ground!!!!!! seeing as you know they got into the car that way...As for your house!!!
Sorry about your car man, it gets me though that people who have cars this nice just leave them outside & not garaged.
Wonky
06-11-2011, 03:49 PM
HSV Listy (Tony) sells GPS trackers which work very well (track by SMS and on iPhone it automatically displays where the car is on a map) and have the option of online tracking for a very reasonable annual fee ($15 from memory??). There are some slightly cheaper on eBay but the great thing if you buy through Tony is he provides great after sales support!! :goodjob:
Wonky
06-11-2011, 03:51 PM
HSV Listy (Tony) sells GPS trackers at a very reasonable price and they work very well (track by SMS and on iPhone it automatically displays where the car is on a map), plus come with the option of online tracking for a very reasonable annual fee ($15 from memory??). There are some slightly cheaper GPS trackers on eBay but the great thing if you buy through Tony is he provides great after sales support!! :goodjob: The trackers also have some alarm functions as well.
lowriding
06-11-2011, 04:17 PM
Surely it was insured ? I dont understand a $5k reward then ?....in any case its a great looking car ,i wouldnt feel comfortable leaving something like that in an open driveway area each night .
1BEAST2NV
06-11-2011, 04:49 PM
I want a GPS tracker now :)
sorry to here mate, being a family man myself.....I be fukn pissed that they broke into my house :VPO:
no such thing as a good justice system these days unfortunetly...
omgbees
06-11-2011, 05:53 PM
Seems to be more and more common, people braking into houses to get keys to steal cars.
This is one of the reasons that I made sure I can keep my car off the street (I know its not an option for everyone) but I leave the keys on the kitchen bench, if someone is willing to break into my house to get my keys for the car, I wouldn't be shocked if they were willing to get violent.
Make it as easy for them to get it, and for you or the police to recover it as possible I reckon. if they are going to break into the house for the keys and insurance covers everything.
Stolen Senator
07-11-2011, 01:51 AM
thanks for all the posts and without going into an esay but will reply to some points raised:
yes the car is insured, meeting with insurance company this Tuesday
i am offering a reward, while I loved the car - no one should enter your home and put your wife and children at risk
I have a reason for the Senator not being in the garage that night which i am now loath to reveal but prior, yes she was garaged every night
Per the detectives, the Senator was targeted by professionals and they couldn't steal it without the keys, even if it was in the garage they were going to take it no matter what. Lucky for me the family is ok.
Yes, in hindsight I should have had GPS fitted but as being a previous HSV owner didn't see a Senator as being a high demand theft item with existing security deterrents in place.
To break into the house they tried 4 different avenues before breaking / forcing a window lock. While I have now upgraded security further, this post is not only about possibly finding the car but also letting other car enthusiast know, no matter how secure or safe you think you are, think again
All I want is the car back & / or the people who took it dealt with
VX2VESS
07-11-2011, 08:52 AM
GPS wouldn't work if stored inside a building etc, just as your GPS doesn't work inside not near any windows.
The phone ones sound OK could suffer the same issue if out of range?
Thieves, rare cars 1 of a kind must be for parts or reborn. not sure what else you could do with something that is easy to identify.
Dogs! Mate I really hope you find them and manage to have a satisfying conversation with them. I've got some mates in campbelltown also so will ask them to keep an eye out...
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Senator
07-11-2011, 09:36 AM
Sorry to here about your lose. I would be devo is some dirty F@$ker took my Senator. Yes you would love to catch the scum that took it and tear them a new asshole or two.. That was going to be my next combo but White with White trim and a manual and a sunroof.
Hope they get it back for you.
Cheers Andy
crackelaktor
07-11-2011, 09:50 AM
GPS wouldn't work if stored inside a building etc, just as your GPS doesn't work inside not near any windows.
The phone ones sound OK could suffer the same issue if out of range?
Thieves, rare cars 1 of a kind must be for parts or reborn. not sure what else you could do with something that is easy to identify.
Quiktrak uses a Telstra 3G sim in the GPS unit so as long as you've got GSM coverage, your car can be found. Btw, the Quiktrak of today is very different to what it was 10 years ago. I had one in my Rex back in 99 and your comments are valid for the older units. Cheers.
Troutman
07-11-2011, 09:59 AM
Sorry about the theft. Non-professional thefts are usually recovered within a week or so but pros are more organised.
Since no one has mentioned it, Holden Assist has GPS tracking among its many features.
holden.com.au/resources/documents/HoldenAssist.pdf
CLUBRED
07-11-2011, 11:12 AM
What colour was that written off W427 that was for sale recently?
Bro-in-law uses these in his planes:
http://au.findmespot.com/en/
Have it set up so it txt's and emails several contacts. I guess if they have it out of range then you'd at least have a search area narrowed down.
brentonsav
07-11-2011, 11:37 AM
GPS trackers are cheap insurance I believe.
A lot of them work without the car turned on and will tell you the last known location and a history of where they have been.
Sorry to hear of the loss. When I leave my car at home, I hide both my keys!
SO PHAT
07-11-2011, 11:50 AM
Yeah same I Keep one set in the safe and the other set are on me always!!! Sorry to hear Mate I hope you get these low lifes... I'll Ask some of the boys in Sydney and see if I can find anything out for you!!!!
Cheers,
DaN
HSVREDSLED
07-11-2011, 12:55 PM
i am offering a reward, while I loved the car - no one should enter your home and put your wife and children at risk
Reward or bounty?:up2sum:
CLUBRED
07-11-2011, 01:16 PM
Not so sure hiding your keys is a great option, especially since they're willing to come in when you're home..
crackelaktor
08-11-2011, 06:08 AM
Not so sure hiding your keys is a great option, especially since they're willing to come in when you're home..
True. I guess the other thing to note is that they know where you live so gotta be careful not to give them a reason to come back for revenge. Not talking about keys here but more if you were to catch one in the act and give them a good flogging. Better off calling cops immediately ad trying to scare them off without pissing them off.
blow thru
08-11-2011, 08:01 AM
My habbit i have done for many years is take your keys and wallet to bed,my mate a few years ago woke to hear his vy ss ute leaving the driveway and what they did to get it was that he left the keys on the kitchen bench and they got a broom handle with a coathanger on the end and put it through the sercurity screen and picked up the keys that way.He had cameras out the front and the thieves pulled up out the front in another ss.
Woodchukka
08-11-2011, 10:10 AM
My habbit i have done for many years is take your keys and wallet to bed,my mate a few years ago woke to hear his vy ss ute leaving the driveway and what they did to get it was that he left the keys on the kitchen bench and they got a broom handle with a coathanger on the end and put it through the sercurity screen and picked up the keys that way.He had cameras out the front and the thieves pulled up out the front in another ss.
I knew a person that had people take things out of their bedroom while they were asleep! How bold is that. Someone else had her hand bag stolen while they were hanging clothes on the line. Just can't stop some low lifes. They should try working for a living. Bloody leaches. Hope the wife and kids are not too shaken up by it.
Plenty
08-11-2011, 01:27 PM
My habbit i have done for many years is take your keys and wallet to bed,my mate a few years ago woke to hear his vy ss ute leaving the driveway and what they did to get it was that he left the keys on the kitchen bench and they got a broom handle with a coathanger on the end and put it through the sercurity screen and picked up the keys that way.He had cameras out the front and the thieves pulled up out the front in another ss.
Dumbest thing ever, its only a car, let them have it. Just make sure you have full insurance.
Putting them next to your bed thinking they are safe is just plain stupid.
blow thru
08-11-2011, 02:39 PM
Dumbest thing ever, its only a car, let them have it. Just make sure you have full insurance.
Putting them next to your bed thinking they are safe is just plain stupid.
How is it stupid?:hmmm: im a light sleeper and they dont sit on my side draws thats for sure.
This is one of the many reasons we like our (possessive) German Shepards. They are the most passive & gentle souls - unless you sneak up on us while they are asleep accross the bedroom doorway!
maloo_
08-11-2011, 06:47 PM
Second that Ken mine sleeps next to my bed.
LS1-5.7
08-11-2011, 07:12 PM
Sadly, the slim hope of finding it in one piece will diminish as time goes by. These cars are stolen to order and it's probably wearing new ID numbers and a different coat of paint by now or even more likely, cruising the highways of Abu Dhabi at a great rate of knots....
It's fine to rely on insurance but your premiums will no doubt reflect the claim you've made if you're brave enough to even replace it with something similar.
The scumbags of our "lucky country" are the only lucky ones in this whole equation and sadly have deterred me from ever owning another high performance car that I can admire and be proud of.
Our judicial system is very unbalanced when car thieving juveniles get a slap on the wrist and 4th or 5th time PCA offenders live free to create more misery on their destructive road through society.
The government of this so called "lucky" country needs a good enima and it's about time they get serious with issues that concern most of us.
Good luck mate in finding it but it's never going to be the same after some scumbag has had his way with it, so if it is found make sure it's a write off.
PS: take some fuel in a mower can and a box of matches for when the coppers do ring and say it's been located ;)
Plenty
08-11-2011, 08:05 PM
How is it stupid?:hmmm: im a light sleeper and they dont sit on my side draws thats for sure.
You leave your keys on the front counter, bench or wherever, they'll take your keys and your car and you live to see another day.
You take your keys and hide them, They come into your room hold a knife to your wife/girlfriends/kids or your throat beat the crap outta ya still get the keys and you end up in hospital or god forbid worse.
It's only a car, it can be replaced, that's what insurance is for!:idea:
sjhugh
08-11-2011, 08:35 PM
You leave your keys on the front counter, bench or wherever, they'll take your keys and your car and you live to see another day.
You take your keys and hide them, They come into your room hold a knife to your wife/girlfriends/kids or your throat beat the crap outta ya still get the keys and you end up in hospital or god forbid worse.
It's only a car, it can be replaced, that's what insurance is for!:idea:
I agree, it’s just a car and no matter how much you love it, it’s not worth injury or worst too save it. I’d let them take it without offering any resistance, I’d even get up and give it a wash & polish if they asked. My family's safety is far more important to me.
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Avalanche
08-11-2011, 08:45 PM
This is one of the many reasons we like our (possessive) German Shepards. They are the most passive & gentle souls - unless you sneak up on us while they are asleep accross the bedroom doorway!
2 of the best insurance policies out there. Or at least they will buy some time to unlock the gunsafe:machinegun:
Belzey
10-11-2011, 02:08 PM
I leave my keys near the front door - if someone is desperate enough to break into your house for your keys they would most certainly not let anyone stand in their way. Let it go it is a material possession nothing more!
Sorry that your beautiful Senator got stolen!
Carby
10-11-2011, 03:46 PM
The attitude displayed above is one that I can understand, but also I think that the same attitude is why we have an increasing plethora of these things happening.
One could easily take the attitude that it is my possession, I work and pay for it and if they want it it's going to be a fight. If everyone fought for their possessions rather than roll over like a playful puppy, I bet you that crims would think twice - they don't want to get hurt either and really coming into your own HOUSE which should be the safest place on earth for you is one time when I would defend myself and my possessions. Mind you If they 're carrying a gun then thats just being stupid. Each to his own, but if I reckon I'm half a chance, I'm going for it.
Agree with Carby on this one :)
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Brandonsdad
10-11-2011, 04:48 PM
How is it stupid?:hmmm: im a light sleeper and they dont sit on my side draws thats for sure.
One night you may not sleep so lightly, and therefore you may never wake up after getting a baseball bat swung at you just as you disturb someone ransacking your room looking for a car key.
My keys stay on the kitchen bench, and if I wake up in the morning and they're not there, then I'll be glad that I woke up at least.
Brandonsdad
10-11-2011, 04:54 PM
The attitude displayed above is one that I can understand, but also I think that the same attitude is why we have an increasing plethora of these things happening.
One could easily take the attitude that it is my possession, I work and pay for it and if they want it it's going to be a fight. If everyone fought for their possessions rather than roll over like a playful puppy, I bet you that crims would think twice - they don't want to get hurt either and really coming into your own HOUSE which should be the safest place on earth for you is one time when I would defend myself and my possessions. Mind you If they 're carrying a gun then thats just being stupid. Each to his own, but if I reckon I'm half a chance, I'm going for it.
Just like the death penalty doesn't deter murderers in America, I'm pretty confident that the possibility of an altercation with a home owner would not deter a criminal.
clubbie
10-11-2011, 04:57 PM
Well thanks to some old man shooting an intruder, it is law in SA that you can shoot and kill someone that has broken into your home. Precedent has been set.
You take your chances in SA.
President of the law society wrote the following in plain english.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/is-killing-an-intruder-murder/story-e6freai3-1225777692769
Hope the OP gets the car back.
VY-SV8
10-11-2011, 05:20 PM
if anyone were to somehow get past bazza my german shepherd (he'd probably try licking them to death the big brute) they'd have a very tough time getting past all my deadbolts and window bars. Then an even tougher time past me and my glock 21, 13 rounds of .45..... i'd like to see someone get up from that.
and i don't need to hear the "you're twice as likely to shoot a family member... blah blah blah, i've served in the army for over 4yrs and guess what, never shot a buddy despite hundreds of life fire exercises."
you break into my house... you die. Simple
Carby
10-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Just like the death penalty doesn't deter murderers in America, I'm pretty confident that the possibility of an altercation with a home owner would not deter a criminal.
I thought some one might raise this death penalty crap (it doen't stop them when they get life in OZ or US either) so your point is invalid.
If the altercation turned out bad for them - hurt and or caught by police for NO GAIN - that would deter them. How do you think they would feel knowing that the next place he wants to do over might again end up in a confrontation, the consequences which may be worse again? VY-SV8 being a case in point!!!!
I hope the OP gets his car back - but I've had three cars stolen in my life and two of them ( both performance cars) I never seen again.
CunningStunter
10-11-2011, 05:57 PM
I thought some one might raise this death penalty crap (it doen't stop them when they get life in OZ or US either) so your point is invalid.
If the altercation turned out bad for them - hurt and or caught by police for NO GAIN - that would deter them. How do you think they would feel knowing that the next place he wants to do over might again end up in a confrontation, the consequences which may be worse again?
All well and good. I actually find myself agreeing about society rolling over making it easier for crims.
But Then I also agree with "its only a materialistic *INSURED* possession, then why take the risk.
Further to that end, and so I am not cast aside as a fence sitter, my BIGGEST concern with ANY kind of altercation, whether it be breaking into ur home or a random road rage incident where the other party follows you home (and other such examples) is that they know where you live.
Much like Mormans and Jehovah's, if it goes bad or or they go wanting, then they WILL target your house in the future so they could keep coming back and back and back.
There are simply too many scenarios to confidently take them out without ANY consequence. If they happen to get away the first time cause you're a big man with guns (again, just a scenario, you might very well shoot them, then you only have to worry about brothers, cousins etc returning) then they might return with bigger, more guns when you're least expecting it, thieves have no life obviously so nothing but time....Then what?
ALL over a COMMODORE. Hmmmmmm.... Even if it were a *insured* Fezza.... Worth it?
Last thought though and I'm getting back onto that damned fence, is you get your brand new shiney replacement vehicle AND CAUSE YOU DID NOTHING then they keep coming back to steal those!
One thing I've learnt through a few stolen bikes with EXTREME SAFETY MEASURES Taken, if thieves want something BAD enough, they will take it and screw the consequences.
SHOOT AWAY, but then they get their mates (fellow cretens) you get yours and and and where does it end.
Genuinely sorry to here OPs pride and joy is gone. I think the safest bet is to GPS track and disable the fkerz at least they go to jail, car back hopefully not ****ed like my bikes upon return still.... A very difficult topic....
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clubbie
10-11-2011, 06:15 PM
All well and good. I actually find myself agreeing about society rolling over making it easier for crims.
But Then I also agree with "its only a materialistic *INSURED* possession, then why take the risk.
Further to that end, and so I am not cast aside as a fence sitter, my BIGGEST concern with ANY kind of altercation, whether it be breaking into ur home or a random road rage incident where the other party follows you home (and other such examples) is that they know where you live.
Much like Mormans and Jehovah's, if it goes bad or or they go wanting, then they WILL target your house in the future so they could keep coming back and back and back.
There are simply too many scenarios to confidently take them out without ANY consequence. If they happen to get away the first time cause you're a big man with guns (again, just a scenario, you might very well shoot them, then you only have to worry about brothers, cousins etc returning) then they might return with bigger, more guns when you're least expecting it, thieves have no life obviously so nothing but time....Then what?
ALL over a COMMODORE. Hmmmmmm.... Even if it were a *insured* Fezza.... Worth it?
Last thought though and I'm getting back onto that damned fence, is you get your brand new shiney replacement vehicle AND CAUSE YOU DID NOTHING then they keep coming back to steal those!
One thing I've learnt through a few stolen bikes with EXTREME SAFETY MEASURES Taken, if thieves want something BAD enough, they will take it and screw the consequences.
SHOOT AWAY, but then they get their mates (fellow cretens) you get yours and and and where does it end.
Genuinely sorry to here OPs pride and joy is gone. I think the safest bet is to GPS track and disable the fkerz at least they go to jail, car back hopefully not ****ed like my bikes upon return still.... A very difficult topic....
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I think you miss the point. HIS WIFE AND FAMILY were in the house. An altercation could have harmed or killed them.
FFS they are in their own home.
You are within your rights here in SA to shoot and kill. Other consequences be damned - next intruder - enough ammo to drop quite a few.
Stolen Senator
10-11-2011, 07:42 PM
Senator has been found in Campbelltown as suspected & most likely a write off
Waste of a beautiful car
Will let you all know more details as appropriate but to let everyone know the police found a very large carving knife on the floor of the car which was taken from our kitchen bench.
Very lucky my wife did not go downstairs.
Double check your home security, make sure people don't follow you home and put family 1st.
Also, the reward for the bastards of $20k still stands!
blu ute
10-11-2011, 08:00 PM
Glad to hear they found it. Sorry that's it a write off.
I'm glad you and you family are ok.
Roonstain
10-11-2011, 08:03 PM
Hardly surprising to find it ended up in Campbelltown........
At least you know where the car is and hopefully get a nice new one to replace it!
Plenty
10-11-2011, 08:06 PM
I think you miss the point. HIS WIFE AND FAMILY were in the house. An altercation could have harmed or killed them.
FFS they are in their own home.
You are within your rights here in SA to shoot and kill. Other consequences be damned - next intruder - enough ammo to drop quite a few.
And whilst in a potential gunfight your wife or kid gets shot? then what, FFS get over it, it's a car that can be replaced your life once your eating through a straw in a wheelchair cannot be repaired nor can that of your family.
IT'S ONLY A FARKING CAR!
Micks
10-11-2011, 08:16 PM
That's right car, money or jewels who gives a f**k all replaceable & don't pay to advertise the fact either!!!
Cheers
VYT
Carby
11-11-2011, 09:33 AM
Well no, it's not all replaceable - jewellery passed down from Grandmother mother, child (and the like) has tremendous sentimental value for many people.
Ones reactions certainly are tested by such things - I wonder what the attitude is if the Crim took the wife or daughter "just as security" so they are not followed and "we'll release them down the road" , actually don't like to think of that scenario...............
awesome _vzss
11-11-2011, 10:04 AM
I can understand people saying just let them take it,but insurance dosnt cover it all and some items just can't be replaced.
Personally I have real good house sercurity and other measures in place to stop this from happening to me.
Though if it were to happen to me I would do my very damn best to stop them within reason.
vecaprice
11-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Holy crap sorry to hear your car got stolen.
My VZ custom Senator was stolen at the begining of the year, from the Campbelltown area, cops said it was targeted, only answer they could give me, still pisses me off, every VZ that goes by with a rumble gets stare down from me, because I know some prick is using my equipment in his or her car. God forbid I never find the person/s who took it.
Plenty
11-11-2011, 12:10 PM
Jewellery from your mum or granny or whatever, you just don't get it, once your dead or a vegetable there is no return its over. We were talking cars here as well so let's keep it in perspective with the main topic. It's easy to sound all macho on a forum but I'm sure if presented with an intruder/s standing over your family in bed it would be one different scenario, one where you would have wished you left the keys in clear view of any intruder.
Belzey
11-11-2011, 01:50 PM
Well no, it's not all replaceable - jewellery passed down from Grandmother mother, child (and the like) has tremendous sentimental value for many people.
Ones reactions certainly are tested by such things - I wonder what the attitude is if the Crim took the wife or daughter "just as security" so they are not followed and "we'll release them down the road" , actually don't like to think of that scenario...............
Umm I think life is a little more irreplaceable then jewels handed down from Grandmothers!!
To the O/P do you feel better knowing they have recovered it or would you have preferred it to have never been found??
VYSHSV8
11-11-2011, 02:13 PM
Glad they found it :)
Now for me if someone was willing enough to break into my house to steal the car key's, they can have the farkin thing, its a piece of metal and can be repaired or replaced..
Same as if they were to steal Jewelry they can have it, all replaceable to some extent....
LIFE IS NOT REPLACEABLE
END OF STORY
tomholzy
11-11-2011, 04:41 PM
Imagine a GPS tracker with a kill switch, brake disable and steering lock...
Your car gets stolen, you log in and wait for them to be doing a decent speed on the highway, then bang no power, no brakes and steering lock, hope for cliff...
eldan89
11-11-2011, 06:11 PM
Imagine a GPS tracker with a kill switch, brake disable and steering lock...
Your car gets stolen, you log in and wait for them to be doing a decent speed on the highway, then bang no power, no brakes and steering lock, hope for cliff...
That would be fantastic... till they plow into another car carrying a mother and 2 small children...
I love my car, but I love being alive more. If someone wants to take it that badly they can have it.
seldo
11-11-2011, 10:25 PM
Imagine a GPS tracker with a kill switch, brake disable and steering lock...
Your car gets stolen, you log in and wait for them to be doing a decent speed on the highway, then bang no power, no brakes and steering lock, hope for cliff...This post exemplifies why most of the long term members don't post here any more....:rolleyes:
Wonky
11-11-2011, 10:26 PM
That would be fantastic... till they plow into another car carrying a mother and 2 small children...
That's why GPS trackers and alarms which can switch off the petrol pump or otherwise kill power remotely are illegal in Australia. Too much risk of innocent people being injured or even killed in an accident caused by a car stranded in the middle of a road somewhere. However, the clever people instead wire them up to instead start flashing the lights or set the horn blaring to draw attention to the car and hopefully make the thieves abandon ship!! :D
clubbie
11-11-2011, 11:42 PM
And whilst in a potential gunfight your wife or kid gets shot? then what, FFS get over it, it's a car that can be replaced your life once your eating through a straw in a wheelchair cannot be repaired nor can that of your family.
IT'S ONLY A FARKING CAR!
FARK ME. Are you guys a bunch of pussies or what. I can hit a moving trarget at 50 mtrs 23 or 24 times out of 25, or the equivalent of a 20c piece at 10 mtrs.
What the fcuk makes you think I am going to miss.
My house is MY HOUSE. My possessions are my possessions. You break in you take your chances. The law backs me in SA. I have a lawfull right to peace and security in my home.
You softc0cks should harden up. Maybe you might think of consequences or whatever posessions some drug fuelled junkie just took from you , I just concentrate on the target.
Plenty
11-11-2011, 11:57 PM
FARK ME. Are you guys a bunch of pussies or what. I can hit a moving trarget at 50 mtrs 23 or 24 times out of 25, or the equivalent of a 20c piece at 10 mtrs.
What the fcuk makes you think I am going to miss.
My house is MY HOUSE. My possessions are my possessions. You break in you take your chances. The law backs me in SA. I have a lawfull right to peace and security in my home.
You softc0cks should harden up. Maybe you might think of consequences or whatever posessions some drug fuelled junkie just took from you , I just concentrate on the target.
Mate to be honest this doesn't really even warrant a response.
but here goes anyway.
GROW UP HILLBILLY!
crackelaktor
12-11-2011, 05:19 AM
That's why GPS trackers and alarms which can switch off the petrol pump or otherwise kill power remotely are illegal in Australia. Too much risk of innocent people being injured or even killed in an accident caused by a car stranded in the middle of a road somewhere. However, the clever people instead wire them up to instead start flashing the lights or set the horn blaring to draw attention to the car and hopefully make the thieves abandon ship!! :D
The Quiktrak system I have in my car allows the car to be remotely stopped by the tracking company. They must do this in conjunction with the Police but it is one of the main features. It is certainly illegal for me as the consumer to have the ability myself but not the tracking company.
Avalanche
12-11-2011, 01:16 PM
Mate to be honest this doesn't really even warrant a response.
but here goes anyway.
GROW UP HILLBILLY!
Now, how are you going to know if the asshats who are currently in your house stealing stuff or looking for keys are just going to leave your preciuos little family asleep?? How do you know they arent going to tie you up & violate your rear end with what ever comes to mind. Good luck with that. Sorry, but responses like i have seen on this forum just give crims more of an upper hand. Bending over & taking it, is just as big of a gamble with your family or yourself as it is to be able to protect your family & property.
If they are in your house uninvited, then they are criminals & obviously not very nice people, or the sort of people you want to hope will ignore you while you sleep. Remember when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Plenty
12-11-2011, 01:55 PM
Now, how are you going to know if the asshats who are currently in your house stealing stuff or looking for keys are just going to leave your preciuos little family asleep?? How do you know they arent going to tie you up & violate your rear end with what ever comes to mind. Good luck with that. Sorry, but responses like i have seen on this forum just give crims more of an upper hand. Bending over & taking it, is just as big of a gamble with your family or yourself as it is to be able to protect your family & property.
If they are in your house uninvited, then they are criminals & obviously not very nice people, or the sort of people you want to hope will ignore you while you sleep. Remember when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Your completely missing the whole point.
If you leave your keys to the car away from sleeping areas it leaves a much less chance of interaction between you and someone that wants to avoid being caught.
If you deliberately conceal your keys just to protect your metal and thus increase the risk of conflict with said crim/s, you are more than likely (being asleep at the time) will come off second best.
No one is saying not to defend yourself or family if need be, but preventing that interaction as much as possible is the safer scenario for you and your family.
I personally have two children in two separate rooms, so if i can minimise time inside and further intrusion around my home i'll do it, the simple way, leave your keys on the bench! It's only a piece of metal and is fully insured! :idea:
richierichhsv
12-11-2011, 02:20 PM
People talking about catching the criminals and getting revenge etc.I've had car and wheels stolen and i know the feeling.
It would be good to hear a story that ends well. Found the car and caught the thie:party:ves story.
Smashfist
12-11-2011, 03:06 PM
People talking about catching the criminals and getting revenge etc.I've had car and wheels stolen and i know the feeling.
Me too. I've also chased a would-be car thief up the road near naked at 2am in the morning with a tyre iron after catching the prick trying to break into my old VL. If I caught him he would have been several teeth shorter at the end. Shame I'm a bit on the chubby side.
If I catch someone in my house, plain and simple he gets buried in the national park. It might not be legal to kill a thief in NSW but put simply, you come into my house you pay the price.
dogsballs
12-11-2011, 03:18 PM
Senator has been found in Campbelltown as suspected & most likely a write off
Waste of a beautiful car
Will let you all know more details as appropriate but to let everyone know the police found a very large carving knife on the floor of the car which was taken from our kitchen bench.
Very lucky my wife did not go downstairs.
Double check your home security, make sure people don't follow you home and put family 1st.
Also, the reward for the bastards of $20k still stands!
intact? or stripped?
throttlehappy
12-11-2011, 03:35 PM
if you break and enter you deserve whatever you get. thats the way it should be anyway
was a while ago now and not in my current house but i awoke to someone breaking into my window, actually three of them and i remained quiet until the first one was about to put his leg and arm through at which point he was hit with the back end of an axe...hard
i dont get the whole leaving keys lying around, mine go with me everywhere
FatBoy
12-11-2011, 04:06 PM
If this guy is willing to fork out 20k to find these guys i'm tipping he wants to inflict some serious damage. I hope he finds out who took it that's for sure... :)
Personally if my wife / kids etc were at home i'd be happy as long as they weren't harmed. If i was alone however and someone broke in my attitude would change slightly. Self defence can justify some pretty strong actions under the right circumstances... :teach:
richierichhsv
12-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Me too. I've also chased a would-be car thief up the road near naked at 2am in the morning with a tyre iron after catching the prick trying to break into my old VL. If I caught him he would have been several teeth shorter at the end. Shame I'm a bit on the chubby side.
If I catch someone in my house, plain and simple he gets buried in the national park. It might not be legal to kill a thief in NSW but put simply, you come into my house you pay the price.
I would of loved to see that. hahahaha
Smashfist
12-11-2011, 05:04 PM
I would of loved to see that. hahahaha
I felt a bit foolish after, but what can you do eh.
Shame the coppers weren't interested after I told them he was a blacky.
clubbie
12-11-2011, 05:07 PM
Mate to be honest this doesn't really even warrant a response.
but here goes anyway.
GROW UP HILLBILLY!
Name calling is a bit immature and you don't know me. So keep your personal sh!t to yourself. (I also saw the unedited vesion of your response - hence this post).
You don't have to like my response. You don't have to agree with my response. But read my post again and like it or not I am within my lawfull rights in SA.
If you had irreplaceable items stolen like wedding jewelry, watches, rare collection of notes and coins etc, I have. I won't go into what it cost but like the op he will lose out from insurance.
I have nice stuff that I buy because I work 60 hours a week. Thinking forward I would hate to be 80 years old and any prick can just break in and take what they want. That is what some of you want - I just can not agree to training the current and next generation to just steal what they want.
BTW I apologise for insinuating other peoples and your opinions were of a sofc0ck and pussy nature, well below my standard.
Edit: Just think how many violent breakins happen in Texas (not many). Just a thought.
Plenty
12-11-2011, 07:15 PM
Name calling is a bit immature and you don't know me. So keep your personal sh!t to yourself. (I also saw the unedited vesion of your response - hence this post).
You don't have to like my response. You don't have to agree with my response. But read my post again and like it or not I am within my lawfull rights in SA.
If you had irreplaceable items stolen like wedding jewelry, watches, rare collection of notes and coins etc, I have. I won't go into what it cost but like the op he will lose out from insurance.
I have nice stuff that I buy because I work 60 hours a week. Thinking forward I would hate to be 80 years old and any prick can just break in and take what they want. That is what some of you want - I just can not agree to training the current and next generation to just steal what they want.
BTW I apologise for insinuating other peoples and your opinions were of a sofc0ck and pussy nature, well below my standard.
Edit: Just think how many violent breakins happen in Texas (not many). Just a thought.
Name calling was a bit low, i apologise. :cheers:
My point is simple though mate, lawful or not, prized and irreplaceable possessions, are they worth dying for? That is my point and nothing more!
Never did i say not to defend yourself and property but was merely referring to our most vulnerable time (whilst asleep), is just simpler to let the car go.
Even the best go down mate, just look at one of our legends Brocky!
Belzey
12-11-2011, 07:50 PM
BTW I apologise for insinuating other peoples and your opinions were of a sofc0ck and pussy nature, well below my standard.
.
I don't mind being called a soft c0ck I am a girl so whatever haha!!
Seriously though everyone reacts differently to situations such as these 'Flight or Fight' for the sake of a car they can have it :) BUT if it came to someone going to hurt my kids that is a totally different story....
clubbie
12-11-2011, 07:53 PM
All good Plenty. I get your point.
Having been through the process with insurance claims my house is now a fortress and has cost heaps to get to that stage.
I hate that fact I have to go to what I would consider extensive and intrusive security just to keep my belongings. BTW I live in what is considered a "nice" area.
VY-SV8
12-11-2011, 07:55 PM
i have a big nasty German shepherd dog, deadbolts on my doors, window locks and bars. I also sleep with a loaded glock 21 within arms reach all because i know my area is loaded with drunks and ruffians on 3-4 nights a week. If someone was to defeat all of those deterrents, and i say that because no home is entry proof, but they do allow me to know someone is attempting to enter my house. I would not hesitate for 1 second to drop them, and i mean with lethal force. I have no qualms killing an intruder because i know that they are definitely up to no good after having to defeat the measure i have put in place.
we all work hard for every one of our possessions and simply offering them up by leaving keys on benches is just exacerbating the situation, crime of opportunity is the number 1 cause of burglary. so next time you leave out valuables think about it.... you don't leave your wallet in the car when you park it now do you?
Belzey
12-11-2011, 07:57 PM
I am amazed at the extent some of you would go to protect your 'possessions' :confused:
HSVREDSLED
12-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Two words to help you in such situations...'Mens Rea'.
Im not expecting the SC crowd to understand, but some educated members on here may research and understand.
MYVYSS
12-11-2011, 08:17 PM
I once asked a Police officer what would happen if I was to shoot or harm an intruder....he said clearly and seriously : Just ensure you kill the bastards as dead men do NOT lie in court...
Plenty
12-11-2011, 08:30 PM
i have a big nasty German shepherd dog, deadbolts on my doors, window locks and bars. I also sleep with a loaded glock 21 within arms reach all because i know my area is loaded with drunks and ruffians on 3-4 nights a week. If someone was to defeat all of those deterrents, and i say that because no home is entry proof, but they do allow me to know someone is attempting to enter my house. I would not hesitate for 1 second to drop them, and i mean with lethal force. I have no qualms killing an intruder because i know that they are definitely up to no good after having to defeat the measure i have put in place.
we all work hard for every one of our possessions and simply offering them up by leaving keys on benches is just exacerbating the situation, crime of opportunity is the number 1 cause of burglary. so next time you leave out valuables think about it.... you don't leave your wallet in the car when you park it now do you?
Mate we mean to leave your keys in view of an intruder already in your house not in view from outside. All it does is reduce the risk of confrontation over a material object, if they happen to go that bit further and enter your room and wake you then by all means do what you have to :guns:, i know i would.
VY-SV8
12-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Mate we mean to leave your keys in view of an intruder already in your house not in view from outside. All it does is reduce the risk of confrontation over a material object, if they happen to go that bit further and enter your room and wake you then by all means do what you have to :guns:, i know i would.
i guess we are sort of on the same page. the only difference beween you and me is where we draw the line of boundary.
i draw the line at the boundary of my property, certainly if they enter my house it's lights out time, you seem to draw that same line at your bedroom.
just shows we all view the world differently, certainly a lot of very different views on here. Kinda enlightening for me, i never thought people would be so forgiving.
Plenty
12-11-2011, 08:59 PM
i guess we are sort of on the same page. the only difference beween you and me is where we draw the line of boundary.
i draw the line at the boundary of my property, certainly if they enter my house it's lights out time, you seem to draw that same line at your bedroom.
just shows we all view the world differently, certainly a lot of very different views on here. Kinda enlightening for me, i never thought people would be so forgiving.
No forgiveness, i don't have a .40cal Glock at hand to defend myself and family only :box:! We have exactly the same view, except i would rather avoid the confrontation whilst sleeping by leaving my keys on the bench. Like you i've made it hard to gain access and minimised visibility of goods to opportunistic thieves.
VY-SV8
12-11-2011, 09:12 PM
No forgiveness, i don't have a .40cal Glock at hand to defend myself and family only :box:! We have exactly the same view, except i would rather avoid the confrontation whilst sleeping by leaving my keys on the bench. Like you i've made it hard to gain access and minimised visibility of goods to opportunistic thieves.
i only ever have it there for the worst case scenario, kinda like many people have a fire extinguisher in their car. We all hope we never have to use it but that added piece of mind makes it that little bit easier.
just infuriates me when some muppet thinks "gee, that's a bloody nice (insert random valuable here), think i'll take that" and then just goes about making someone else hard earned goods, theirs.
I've only ever once woken up to some drunkard peering in my garage window and he near shat himself when my dog had him bailed up. i had to call him off, i tells ya tho. i nearly didn't, but we all know how that would've ended... me with a dead dog and a civil suit when this guy realises he can get $$$ out of me. what a joke of a legal system we have.
ps. Just realised what thread this was, sorry for the hijack. i sure am glad they found your car mate, now if we can go about finding the low lives who took it.... i'll gladly help you dish out a bit of "street justice" as we all know a slap on the wrist is all they'll get from our busted ass legal system.
blow thru
13-11-2011, 11:09 AM
i have a big nasty German shepherd dog, deadbolts on my doors, window locks and bars. I also sleep with a loaded glock 21 within arms reach all because i know my area is loaded with drunks and ruffians on 3-4 nights a week. If someone was to defeat all of those deterrents, and i say that because no home is entry proof, but they do allow me to know someone is attempting to enter my house. I would not hesitate for 1 second to drop them, and i mean with lethal force. I have no qualms killing an intruder because i know that they are definitely up to no good after having to defeat the measure i have put in place.
we all work hard for every one of our possessions and simply offering them up by leaving keys on benches is just exacerbating the situation, crime of opportunity is the number 1 cause of burglary. so next time you leave out valuables think about it.... you don't leave your wallet in the car when you park it now do you?
Well said:thumbsup:
team illucid
13-11-2011, 11:33 AM
Kinda enlightening for me, i never thought people would be so forgiving.
Welcome to the end of the civilised world.
http://americanmusclecarsaustralia.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=4682&page=2#pid29222
getting back on track, the car has been found
planetdavo
13-11-2011, 11:39 AM
I am amazed at the extent some of you would go to protect your 'possessions' :confused:
Yep.
Kind of reminds me of a story that pops up now and again.
People spend so much money making their houses inpenetrable, then die in a house fire because their houses are now too hard to get out of in an emergency.
Moral of the story?
People often get blinded by only one scenario, rather than looking at all possible scenario's. Pretty hard to replace loved ones, not to mention the physical and emotional trauma you could suffer for life having tried to "defend" your insured property. Pretty much ANYTHING can be replaced in life except yourself and those you love...:confused:
VYSHSV8
13-11-2011, 03:13 PM
FARK ME. Are you guys a bunch of pussies or what. I can hit a moving trarget at 50 mtrs 23 or 24 times out of 25, or the equivalent of a 20c piece at 10 mtrs.
What the fcuk makes you think I am going to miss.
My house is MY HOUSE. My possessions are my possessions. You break in you take your chances. The law backs me in SA. I have a lawfull right to peace and security in my home.
You softc0cks should harden up. Maybe you might think of consequences or whatever posessions some drug fuelled junkie just took from you , I just concentrate on the target.
I handed all my high powered rifles in when I had children :(
Because I didn't want the chance I anything going wrong :(
And yes I could hit a moving target at 300+ yards 24 outa 25 times :) did It for a living for 2 odd years.
50c piece on a target at 400 yards no prob.
But I didn't want rifles in my house with my young kids....
brasher
14-11-2011, 06:39 AM
You guys have got it all wrong, you need one of those maglites that are 3 foot long and weigh as much as a bag of concrete....
"Officer, I got my flashlight, and wen't looking for a noise"
"why does his head look like it's been cracked with a baseball bat"
"it's a pretty heavy duty flashlight *wink*" :p
You guys have got it all wrong, you need one of those maglites that are 3 foot long and weigh as much as a bag of concrete....
"Officer, I got my flashlight, and wen't looking for a noise"
"why does his head look like it's been cracked with a baseball bat"
"it's a pretty heavy duty flashlight *wink*" :p
I have one of these :) takes 6 D cell batteries :) it stays by my computer or front door should I need to inspect a "noise"
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team illucid
14-11-2011, 09:19 AM
I handed all my high powered rifles in when I had children :(
Because I didn't want the chance I anything going wrong :(
And yes I could hit a moving target at 300+ yards 24 outa 25 times :) did It for a living for 2 odd years.
50c piece on a target at 400 yards no prob.
But I didn't want rifles in my house with my young kids....
The reality of the world is that you should be teaching your kids proper gun control, cleaning and storage.
I am getting my daughter a pistol license for the sole reason of knowing how, where and when to shoot. When my little guy is older, he too will go through the same training.
There is a lot of bad shit coming in this world, and whilst I may not live to see the worst of it, my kids surely will, and I can't allow them to go forward unprepared or unarmed. I see it as my duty as a parent.
calais190
14-11-2011, 09:23 AM
The reality of the world is that you should be teaching your kids proper gun control, cleaning and storage.
I am getting my daughter a pistol license for the sole reason of knowing how, where and when to shoot. When my little guy is older, he too will go through the same training.
There is a lot of bad shit coming in this world, and whilst I may not live to see the worst of it, my kids surely will, and I can't allow them to go forward unprepared or unarmed. I see it as my duty as a parent.
That's an interesting message to teach your children. I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just interesting...
VYSHSV8
14-11-2011, 09:27 AM
The reality of the world is that you should be teaching your kids proper gun control, cleaning and storage.
I am getting my daughter a pistol license for the sole reason of knowing how, where and when to shoot. When my little guy is older, he too will go through the same training.
There is a lot of bad shit coming in this world, and whilst I may not live to see the worst of it, my kids surely will, and I can't allow them to go forward unprepared or unarmed. I see it as my duty as a parent.
This was when they were just babies ie 2 yrs old and when two out of your 3 kids are epileptic and ADHD guns arent a great thing around the house. Because they can have a fit at anytime.
Once they can control there epilepsy and ADHD a bit better we will get some more.
team illucid
14-11-2011, 09:35 AM
This was when they were just babies ie 2 yrs old and when two out of your 3 kids are epileptic and ADHD guns arent a great thing around the house. Because they can have a fit at anytime.
Once they can control there epilepsy and ADHD a bit better we will get some more.
Ok mate, that's a fair point.
VYSHSV8
14-11-2011, 09:39 AM
Ok mate, that's a fair point.
And yes I do want my kids to learn correct gun control as I think it's vital :)
Still got an air rifle at mums house might have to go get it again :) would be a great place to start with them.
Carby
14-11-2011, 11:34 AM
Jewellery from your mum or granny or whatever, you just don't get it, once your dead or a vegetable there is no return its over. We were talking cars here as well so let's keep it in perspective with the main topic. It's easy to sound all macho on a forum but I'm sure if presented with an intruder/s standing over your family in bed it would be one different scenario, one where you would have wished you left the keys in clear view of any intruder.
I'm not macho - as I said each situation needs to be analysed, and I think that everyone gets what you are saying, but you keep harping about someone standing over you - of course that is one scenario and of course you would be at a disadvantage. But every household is different - dogs inside the house, would not allow such a situation.
Crims are bullys at heart - and they can be stopped, just like the fat kid who was bullied one time too many at school and then body slammed the perpetrator - bet he dosn't get bullied anymore........
v8fazz
14-11-2011, 05:26 PM
Two words to help you in such situations...'Mens Rea'.
Im not expecting the SC crowd to understand, but some educated members on here may research and understand.
If in doubt just watch - "See No Evil, Hear No Evil"
Explains everything!
Solone
24-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Hi,
Its better they took the keys and took the car, family unharmed.
If you hide the keys and they confront you, they will have the advantage of being prepared, you will be standing there half asleep in your y-fronts and have a grappling match with them. They might submit you.
Phillshz
24-11-2011, 02:33 PM
Any more news on the car/thieves?
SV300
16-02-2012, 07:04 PM
well there is a stripped out white E3 on ebay at a wreckers......
2 + 2 = !!!!!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HSV-VE-E3-Senator-rolling-shell-Holden-Commodore-SS-SV6-Drift-Race-Project-/200714831516?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebb89469c
macca33
16-02-2012, 07:46 PM
well there is a stripped out white E3 on ebay at a wreckers......
2 + 2 = !!!!!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HSV-VE-E3-Senator-rolling-shell-Holden-Commodore-SS-SV6-Drift-Race-Project-/200714831516?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebb89469c
Obviously, someone is running around in a fairly swisho SS with HSV running gear nowadays. Dunno if the Ebay seller will get much - all the 'good' stuff is gone....
HSVQUE
16-02-2012, 11:23 PM
well there is a stripped out white E3 on ebay at a wreckers......
2 + 2 = !!!!!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HSV-VE-E3-Senator-rolling-shell-Holden-Commodore-SS-SV6-Drift-Race-Project-/200714831516?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebb89469c
Huge Shame.. There Such a Nice Car.
super coach
17-02-2012, 12:04 AM
so if the structure is all good, why was it a write off then??? seems suss to me
SV300
17-02-2012, 07:17 AM
Try adding up the cost of replacement parts... then you will understand. Don't forget engine as well
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macca33
17-02-2012, 08:04 AM
Try adding up the cost of replacement parts... then you will understand. Don't forget engine as well
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No, they are rendered as 'unrepairable write-offs' as a means of deterring car re-birthing. Without going into detail, many a car has been stolen in the past, stripped, then purchased VERY cheaply at auction and re-registered. Remember, with these cars, the identity of the car is most important and the chassis bears those vital identifiers, not necessarily the components - remember that engines / gearboxes are often changed under warranty, so the chassis is the only absolute when it comes to the original identity of the car = the value of the car.
bush_basha
17-02-2012, 08:06 AM
That annoys me with that eBay add, some scumbag has taken that just for parts, and boy did they take parts, even went to the trouble of gaurds
LS Kernal
19-02-2012, 08:24 PM
Just seen this thread (i know its from last year).
Sorry to hear about you car.
But why the 5k and 20k reward? If you have that much money to throw around why dont you just put it with the insurance payout and go buy another one.
What are you gonna do if someone leads you to the thieves and you pay out the 20k reward? are you gonna hand em over to he police or deal with them yourself?
- Hand em over to the police; you will be out 20k and the thieves will most likely get a slap on the wrist if anything maybe probation? Vehicle theft rarely gets any jail term unless it a massive ring.
- Deal with them yourself; you will be out 20k and most likely get in trouble with the law for retaliation/revenge. What are you gonna go beat em up (god knows they deserve it but thats the wrong way to go about things)
motorin on
19-02-2012, 09:07 PM
well there is a stripped out white E3 on ebay at a wreckers......
2 + 2 = !!!!!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HSV-VE-E3-Senator-rolling-shell-Holden-Commodore-SS-SV6-Drift-Race-Project-/200714831516?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebb89469c
Surely wreckers have to keep records of who supplies the wreck and they have to confirm the details of the seller
ls2maloo
20-04-2012, 09:16 PM
One of the guys i work with his wifes new ve2 sv6 wagon was tampered with the other night in the cronulla area,when they went out in the morning the front left hand indicator was hanging out,the small one above the wheel arch and the liner in the wheel arch was ripped out aswell.They took it to the local holden dealer and was told by the service guy that apparently there's something up above the wheel that when played with opens up the remote locking.Also was told that if someone jumps up and down on the bonnet the same thing happens with the locks opening.Don't know how true this is but it's a bit concerning if it's true.I know this sounds unrealistic but only passing on what i heard.
Cheers
bush_basha
21-04-2012, 08:16 AM
Can't Help you there, but the older cara a bloke told me, by reversing power thru a certain thing activated the door locks. Have no idea how true. I have also heard that jumping on a roof a few times caving it in will unlock the doors because it thinks it being rolled. This one has also seemed very doubtful.
zorro
21-04-2012, 09:00 AM
Can't Help you there, but the older cara a bloke told me, by reversing power thru a certain thing activated the door locks. Have no idea how true. I have also heard that jumping on a roof a few times caving it in will unlock the doors because it thinks it being rolled. This one has also seemed very doubtful.
I've heard the same, bridging a certain two wires makes the locks pop due to a constant current passing. I doubt it though.
My vz senator was broken into Tuesday night, found it both front doors open, bonnet up and everything inside thrown around. Stole my wallet which I found most of it down the street, the fire extinguisher, HSV tire pressure gauge and an old phone that was buried in the centre console which was found by metro in a bag at a train station.
I have an OCD with locking things so has me stumped how they got in
motorin on
21-04-2012, 07:10 PM
which was found by metro in a bag at a train station.
Any chance the bag was under the view of a surveillance camera that was recording and recorded the dumper
zorro
21-04-2012, 07:29 PM
Tbh the police weren't particularly interested in chasing anything up. Didn't come to print the car, they said would have to look through 24hrs of footage from multiple cameras etc etc.
I am not upset with that, I have 90% of my wallet contents back, the phone and only lost a couple of things which all in all I came out pretty good and no damage to the car.
Phillshz
02-05-2012, 03:02 PM
Can't Help you there, but the older cara a bloke told me, by reversing power thru a certain thing activated the door locks. Have no idea how true. I have also heard that jumping on a roof a few times caving it in will unlock the doors because it thinks it being rolled. This one has also seemed very doubtful.
I believe this method is more of a urban myth than anything. I heard about years ago when EB2 falcons came out with "smart lock". Rumour has it by bridging 2 magical wires located in the general NSF guard area the central locking would activate and the immobiliser would de-arm.
Cheers Phill
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