What's it worth?

[grandpa spec]

Had a bit of a priority change lately and looking at selling some of my toys.

She's a Black VY SV8 2003 with 195xxx on the clock.

Paint and panel needs some work (bumpers and bonnet need a re-spray and minor panel damage on the rear passengers quater panel, was quoted $1000 for everything)
New tyres
Heavy duty single mass exceedy clutch and slave cyl and new spigot bearing
Lowered
De-badged
De-winged (still have wing)
2 hole mod
HSV MAF Pipe
New waterpump
MSD leads
2.5" Catback with 3" stainless tips
Aftermarket headunit and speakers
Serviced with 10w-50 every 5000kms
Gearbox oil changed twice this year.

She owes me well over $20 but I'd be willing to part for what I owe on the loan which is $12k.

Am I being realistic?

[aratic]

Sorry to say it but having a quick look on carsales you will struggle to get 12k with those kms and with the body needing work.

Realistically I reckon I'd only get 13k for my VY SS, which has less kms and is pretty tidy

[grandpa spec]

Thought was much, was being optimistic haha :)

[aratic]

It is manual though and there arent many manual SV8's in QLD for sale currently. Put 12k on it and see how you go, no point in giving it away

[zorro]

I'm pretty hard at times with a low offer, cash deposit on the spot and the winning line "I'm doing you a favour taking it off your hands"....

Condition it's in if it were me and needing quick coin put 9500 on it and happy to part with 9, pay the loan off quick as you can and cut your losses.

In saying that though I've been watching carsales a fair bit lately and not much is moving atm so best of luck

[CALDIR]

Hi

Lets bring you back to reality:

I have a 2004 WK Grange which is basically a VY with every option inc sunroof, upgraded HSV 19 inch wheels all in mint condition. It had been on carpoint for over 13 months and the highest offer I got was $19,500 from a friend (carpoint only got me $17,000) I started advertising it with lower k's than yours but now it is at 203,000 k's.

I am now going to keep it and run it into the ground!

I have to admit though some guy on an oil rig offered me a little more but wanted to pay after he took delivery of it and wanted me to pay shipping costs too. I never knew they had roads on oil rigs!!!

regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[charlie15]

id say about 9k-10k, considering you can pick up a vy ss with similar/slightly lower kms for about 12k. geez the vy ss has really dropped down in price since i last checked.

[Grommz]

I picked up my pretty much fully optioned VY II Calais for 10..

And its an 8 not a 6.

[Smashfist]

I'm gonna say $10k. I got $12k for my VY SS with a fair bit less k's, manual, in VGC apart from a panel that had a little peeling clear.

[Solone]

i think the km are its achilles heel, people want a low km mint car and cheap.

I would imagine with high km and maintence costs identified it would be on the lower end of the scale of price. I reckon you might have a shot under $10k

[BLACKVE]

i'd get the panel damage fixed, that would put people off.

my VYIISV8 manual with cam etc and only 63000km's wouldn't get 15Kunless i was lucky

[awesome _vzss]

I'm gonna say about $9500,we all got face the truth,the market for v8 commodores is small and what people actually are willing to pay imo is well under its value but the market favours the buyer not the seller.

[grandpa spec]

Eek, some of the responses have been a bit of an eye opener. Will get paint and panel fixed then go from there I think.

[zorro]

Weight it up before you go ahead with repairs as you may lose after repair costs

[HSVREDSLED]

If its your only car...drive the farker into the ground.

Depreciation of a newer vehicle will far outweigh the costs to keep the girl running...

Only update, if your financial status allows....not to 'improve' your financial status.

[SS04]

Okay.... Whatcha reckon?

VY SS Cosmo Purple, leather ( unmarked ) interior, climate control, Factory Sunroof, 2.5 inch ( cat back ) exhaust , standard 18 inch wheels ,Auto, 89,000km.

Doesn't get used, just sits in the shed , and driven occasionally.( has for the last 2 years )

Thinking bout getting rid of her and my daily driver, and getting an SR5 4x4 Hilux ute

[grandpa spec]

I do understand what you are all saying, and I'm reluctant to admit that I'm actually looking at upgrading to an FPV haha.

Due to my job I can salary sacrafice which actually works out cheaper than owning the VY at present as everything is pre-tax and works out about $4k cheaper a year.

As it stands I'm looking at the 4 door, 5 Star ANCAP sedan that doubles as a rocketship due to upcoming changes in my family situation, so tomorrow I'm test driving a GS FPV.

[SS04]

Yeah I have the ability to salary sacrifice, but I just don't have the understanding to know wether it's worthwhile , and I just can't justify not actually owning the car ( as it's still owned by the finance company ) .
Yeah I know a lot will say, but you get to upgrade 3 yrs later, but I get attached to my vehicles, and take care of them. I dunno?????

[Mick1]

I have to admit though some guy on an oil rig offered me a little more but wanted to pay after he took delivery of it and wanted me to pay shipping costs too. I never knew they had roads on oil rigs!!!


Hey ,that guy wanted to buy my car too!


Both my cars as l recall , one was a Mazda, the other a Holden.:werd:


He couldn't spell.


:idea:l think they call it a SCAM

[Swordie]

I'd get someone who knows financials to check your figures.

[grandpa spec]

I'd get someone who knows financials to check your figures.

Wise words, I've done the basics however I should probably get the accountant to go over it too. More or less I want to upgrade as I need something that better suites my needs and the salary sacrafice seemed to be working out about $25 cheaper a week for a brand new car.

[SS04]

Yeah wouldn't hurt to ask .... But getting back to my original question, can anyone give me a good idea on what my VY SS is worth ( check the details couple of posts back) and not what you would offer! What you think I should ASK for it.... And be fair and honest with your reply please

[Mick1]

What you think I should ASK for it.... And be fair and honest with your reply please

l would ask for about 16, love the purple ones!

[SS04]

Okay.... $16k might work on that !

[redvxr8clubby]

I would think $16,500 or so. I'd say if your aiming higher say $18K I don't think it will happen, you have good Km's sunroof and leather, if the paint is very good you would think someone would pick it up. On the downside not everyone will like the colour, surely to someone who loves the colour $16,500 is reasonable.

[SS04]

I appreciate the feedback , like I said 89 k on the clock . Would like to add a pic , but I'm unsure how to ( doing this from iPod )

[charlie15]

Lol this thread has been officially hacked! Btw love Cosmo purple.

[SS04]

Yeah sorry, didn't mean to do that, figured "What's it worth?" was a good place to ask the question, rather than opening a new topic, apologies to all I have upset

[charlie15]

Yeah sorry, didn't mean to do that, figured "What's it worth?" was a good place to ask the question, rather than opening a new topic, apologies to all I have upset

Haha I don't think ppl would be upset it was just funny!

[SS04]

Not sure if this will work, but this is a pic of the pride and Joy


http://www.duco-revival.com/P1030475_op_622x341.jpg

[grandpa spec]

Not bothered at all mate :) Good to get a comparison of what others are asking for vs what's on offer.

[VY-SV8]

I bought a VY SV8, with leather, 18" wheels, full SS bodykit, side flutes and only 160,000km about 2 months ago for $10k

you'd be very very hard pressed for $16k.

[JimmyXR6T04]

i too am looking at leasing a GS (although i'm waiting for MKII)... The way i see it, i'm paying $350 per fortnight in repayments for my turbo territory. That's repayments only. I can lease a GS and i'll lose about $500 net (depending on options, period of lease and final cost of vehicle) out of my pay per fortnight, but that will include fuel, rego, insurance, servicing etc... So for an extra $150 per fortnight, i get everything included... I go through $120-140 (minimum) per fortnight in fuel alone as it stands right now! That's only travelling about 250km per week...

Fair enough i'll still end up owing a residual at the end of the lease, but i can either pay it out, or lease again.. I'll probably only lease for 24mths, that way if i'm not a fan of it i can end the lease after 2 years and not be locked in.

Grandpa, have you looked into trading it in? You might have less hassle and be able to cut your losses, besides, you might get a good deal due to purchasing a new car through them? I'll more then likely just trade mine in, provided i get what it owes me or close to it!

When i was looking a few months ago, most dealerships were willing to give me what i owed for my territory if i was going to purchase a new car. I owed about 27k back then, and the wholesale value was only 23k...

[charlie15]

I bought a VY SV8, with leather, 18" wheels, full SS bodykit, side flutes and only 160,000km about 2 months ago for $10k

you'd be very very hard pressed for $16k.

16k for a vy ss. The first post asks how much an sv8 is worth, but later posts begin talking about how much an ss is.

[VY-SV8]

16k for a vy ss. The first post asks how much an sv8 is worth, but later posts begin talking about how much an ss is.

i understand that fully. However you find me a sap who is willing to pay $6k more for the little badge that says SS when my car has more factory options than came standard on the ss models.... no one will.

the market for the VY V8's just isnt there. $16k is way way way overpriced. it'll sit in your driveway forever at that price. Have a look on carsales, plenty of mint SS commo's out there for well under 16k

[ova400]

there was a VY SS with an L98 on here that sold for $16,500 (advertised not sure what paid was) which I think is reasonable with the engine change over, but there is no money in them as people have said. I turned mine into a race car :driving: could justify selling

[Mick1]

the market for the VY V8's just isnt there. $16k is way way way overpriced. it'll sit in your driveway forever at that price. Have a look on carsales, plenty of mint SS commo's out there for well under 16k


What u ask isn't what u get most of the time.

His question was, what should l ASK!

He may be prepared to take 13 but 16 is a good price to 'ASK'.

[VY-SV8]

if you post $16k on it.. you're gonna put off potential buyers with an unrealistic sticker price. you'd be better off putting $14k on it if you were willing to take $13.

this is all hypothetical however as we have no idea what he is willing to take. If you want the car to sit in your drive for months on end with the occasional dreamer/scam artist calling you up... sure put $16k on it. If you are realistic about selling it, do some looking on carsales, you'll see quite a few mint as VY SS's with 13-14k on them sitting there week after week.. it's a brutal market to sell a V8 right now. Especially seeing as tho even low KM cars are pushing 100,000 now.

[abrowne70]

I bought my one owner, immaculate red VY SV8 manual with 33,xxxkms on it for $16k

[redvxr8clubby]

It's all relative to the cars age. VY's are at least 8 years old now. If you consider a new SS (base manual) is $42,000 drive away with your rego and stamp duty paid. If a VY SS is priced at $16,000 that's fairly good resale at about $3,000 pa depreciation compared with a new one. A new one at $42,000 seems pretty good value really.

[WOMBIE]

Had a bit of a priority change lately and looking at selling some of my toys.

She's a Black VY SV8 2003 with 195xxx on the clock.

Paint and panel needs some work (bumpers and bonnet need a re-spray and minor panel damage on the rear passengers quater panel, was quoted $1000 for everything)
New tyres
Heavy duty single mass exceedy clutch and slave cyl and new spigot bearing
Lowered
De-badged
De-winged (still have wing)
2 hole mod
HSV MAF Pipe
New waterpump
MSD leads
2.5" Catback with 3" stainless tips
Aftermarket headunit and speakers
Serviced with 10w-50 every 5000kms
Gearbox oil changed twice this year.

She owes me well over $20 but I'd be willing to part for what I owe on the loan which is $12k.

Am I being realistic?

Mate I think if you get 10k for it you'd be pretty lucky (looooots of v8's out there atm) but stranger things have happened I guess.Just to give you an idea I sold mine a few weeks ago now so here's a bit of a run down......

1 owner red hot 04 m6 vy sv8

80,000 odo

Mechanically A1 been serviced every 6 months since new by CHE using Castrol 10w 60 oil and other oils to Holden specification however Mainlube products used extensively last 4 years

Interior (as new showroom) condition detailed every 2 weeks

Exterior immaculate (apart from a few stone chips on bonnet) body straight no accidents,paint work regularly detailed and maintained by DMS detailing however last 2 years took on detailing duties myself.



Lots of extras too many to list atm but included cam,dual valve springs,full exhaust with high flow cats,custom mafless tune,hsv 343mm crossed drilled rotors with 4 piston calipers,detailed engine bay consisting of polished billet caps,painted engine covers and dus otr etc etc,19" xhp rims,harrop diff cover,koni shocks,lowered,20% tint.........you get the idea

Owed me plenty but I hate waiting and so I put a price of 14k on it and it sold in 2 days for you guessed it......14k!I needed it gone and I priced it accordingly.


So there you go and good luck with sale I do hope it works out well for you :)


Cheers,
Woms

[SS04]

Mechanically A1 been serviced every 6 months Cheers,
Woms

Seriously?????? what sort of servicing needs to happen every 6 months... they wouldve loved your ass!

Sorry but that seems a little extreme, and if it was serviced on such a frequent level... i doubt it wouldve been 80 k ....


1000km first service
1500km = 1 month service validation
10000km = 5 months since last service
20000km = 6 months since last service
30000km = 6 months since last service
40000km = 6 months since last service
50000km = 6 months since last service
60000km = 6 months since last service
70000km = 6 months since last service
80000km = 6 months since last service


Now either you had your car over serviced , or if by working on the figures you have supplied.. ( Servicing every 6 months for 4 years) you either
1) let your car go without its 80 k service at which point you wouldve owned it from a 1000km Gem, at which point you made a dramatic loss ( Poor You)

2) or you took possesion of your car at around 10k , at which point you made a dramatic loss ( still poor you)

3) if 1 of the above statements is correct , you wouldve stood to lose approximately $21,000 in 4 years , with such a poor depreciation , how is HOLDEN still able to sell cars in this day and age with a market reputation like that , ... it seems to me that HOLDENS are no longer worth it!

Just my 2 cents

[team illucid]

Seriously?????? what sort of servicing needs to happen every 6 months... they wouldve loved your ass!



My log book says X amount of K's OR 6 months, whichever comes first.

I have to do this to maintain my Holden Warranty. What's a couple of hundred bucks every 6 months :)

[WOMBIE]

Yes dude farking seriously :nutkick:

Car was serviced every 6 months from new not just the last 4 years! Excessive?? I don't think so and it worked out to be cheap insurance with zero problems throughout the time I owned the vehicle! Servicing for that particular model is x amount of k's OR 6 months as Kurt illuded too whichever comes first so there you go!


Yes you lose money on cars it ain't rocket science :rolleyes:


Fwiw next service was due Dec 11 ..................

Cheers,
Woms

[grandpa spec]

Well I've done my test drive of the FPV GS and the manual leaves a lot to be desired. It's BULLSHIT quick in a straight line and the box just glides though the gears but it's far from a precise motion, feels very loose.

The brakes are in dire needs of an upgrade and inspired ZERO confidence with the amount of grunt behind nearly 2.2Ton they have to slow down.

The torque was incredible down low and taking off even slightly more than snail pace around a corner made it want to break traction. That being said, the cornering wasn't the most amazing experience either.

A very good car for the power but not something I could see myself driving every day.

The dealer then listened to my concerns and tossed me the keys to an FPV F6 saying he would "convert me"..... I worked.... BIG TIME!

Once boost come on it's like being kicked by a horse with both feet straight to the chest until you let the loud foot off the go fast do-hicky. I would NOT try anything in the wet with this car.... scary amounts of sideways would most likely result.

The brembo's do an excellent job of pulling it up on a dime and the handling feels far more responsive without the heavy donk up front.

Thanks for all the input people, will work with those figures and probably advertise for $11,500o.n.o to leave some room for bartering provided the numbers add up as the stars have foretold.

[VTR8Clubby]

Seriously?????? what sort of servicing needs to happen every 6 months... they wouldve loved your ass!

Sorry but that seems a little extreme, and if it was serviced on such a frequent level... i doubt it wouldve been 80 k ....


1000km first service
1500km = 1 month service validation
10000km = 5 months since last service
20000km = 6 months since last service
30000km = 6 months since last service
40000km = 6 months since last service
50000km = 6 months since last service
60000km = 6 months since last service
70000km = 6 months since last service
80000km = 6 months since last service


Now either you had your car over serviced , or if by working on the figures you have supplied.. ( Servicing every 6 months for 4 years) you either
1) let your car go without its 80 k service at which point you wouldve owned it from a 1000km Gem, at which point you made a dramatic loss ( Poor You)

2) or you took possesion of your car at around 10k , at which point you made a dramatic loss ( still poor you)

3) if 1 of the above statements is correct , you wouldve stood to lose approximately $21,000 in 4 years , with such a poor depreciation , how is HOLDEN still able to sell cars in this day and age with a market reputation like that , ... it seems to me that HOLDENS are no longer worth it!

Just my 2 cents

My VTII(2000) has done 93,000kms. I change the oil and filter every 6 to 7 months. Last change I did it had only done 1500kms. Call it over servicing if you like but it costs me about $80 and 20 mins each time so why wouldn't you do it?