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VX-300
02-12-2011, 09:20 AM
On Channel 7 news last night in Perth.

Guy bought a new white Maloo, 4Hrs later the car is impounded by police under hoon legislation. News reported the guy got caught at 140 in a 70 showing off to his mate.
Car gone for 28 days, credit to the owner admitting his acts were foolish and he appeared accepting of the outcome.

:deal:

Evman
02-12-2011, 09:28 AM
At least he copped it on the chin then I suppose

boggers007
02-12-2011, 09:41 AM
Question being, will he do it again once its back.

FAT-LSX
02-12-2011, 09:45 AM
damn, that wait would suck! a month without your new rig.

Derek ve ss
02-12-2011, 09:49 AM
car back in 28 days , then he will lose his license for 6 months... Long wait to drive a brand new car..

02PRUV
02-12-2011, 10:11 AM
Stuff that. I would fight that one stating I wasn't hooning I was speeding. So give me a speeding fine.

boggers007
02-12-2011, 10:14 AM
Stuff that. I would fight that one stating I wasn't hooning I was speeding. So give me a speeding fine.

70k's over is abit hard to argue speeding as thats way over the limit and you would know your doing it.

02PRUV
02-12-2011, 10:21 AM
70k's over is abit hard to argue speeding as thats way over the limit and you would know your doing it.

Yeah. So you would know your speeding. Not hooning.

MarsVolta
02-12-2011, 10:22 AM
yeah if you're caught doing 40km over any speed limit here that makes you a hoon. cant blame him though, its hard to control yourself in a maloo.

Bombaman
02-12-2011, 10:37 AM
yeah if you're caught doing 40km over any speed limit here that makes you a hoon. cant blame him though, its hard to control yourself in a maloo.

45km/h not 40km/h over

Smashfist
02-12-2011, 10:56 AM
yeah if you're caught doing 40km over any speed limit here that makes you a hoon. cant blame him though, its hard to control yourself in a maloo.

Yeah any modern car really. I've done MUCH more than 40-45km over without thinking I was going quite that fast. When I'm gunning it to go around someone I'm generally paying more attention to the road than the speedo :burnout:

HSVREDSLED
02-12-2011, 12:21 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

HEKYEH
02-12-2011, 12:31 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

Good point, but there wouldn't be a 70 zone in a residential area.

140 in a 70 zone is just plain stupid though.

white lie
02-12-2011, 12:55 PM
There's plenty of roads over here that are 70km/h speed limits and are lined with houses...
Glad they caught him and he deserves everything he gets IMO. But as said, at least he accepted the results of his actions.

silvervyss
02-12-2011, 01:45 PM
He was just unlucky. I'm sure everyone who has purchased a high performance car has given it a squirt on a public road.

steve_t
02-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Ah well, at least he can have his mate drive him and his Maloo to track days if he wants :driving:

BOBGEN111
02-12-2011, 01:49 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

Agreed, crush the car.

k1w1noz
02-12-2011, 01:59 PM
Wow. I may be on the east coast - but I heard that there's a wee bit of open space in WA. Surely this bloke could've found somewhere (other than a 70 zone) to stretch the Maloo legs?!?:rolleyes: His actions are reflecting badly on the rest of us hoons.........

BEARWOOD
02-12-2011, 02:06 PM
He was just unlucky. I'm sure everyone who has purchased a high performance car has given it a squirt on a public road.

Ye but not 140 in a 70 zone, he could of found a lonely back road or somewhere out of town a bit but ye we've all done stupid things.

I don't agree with the comments on crushing the car but, if he had 20 skooners and 3 bongs and got caught they wouldn't crush it and i'd say thats just as dangerous. Maybe make them sell the car and limit what cars they can buy or something, crushing new or expensive cars is just stupid and a waste in so many ways.

Jamolad
02-12-2011, 02:28 PM
If I am to believe my mate in WA they are very hot on impounding when 40km/h over the limit. He reckons the WA cops recently impounded one of their own (marked) patrol bikes after it was caught doing more than 40km/h over the limit escorting Cold Chisel to a gig.

Think I might check Google to see if he was talking crap. Doesn't sound right that their escort would speed just to get Chisel to a gig on time, nor does it sound right that they would impound one of their own vehicles.

sixlta
02-12-2011, 02:28 PM
Try this one in for size!

Hoon driver nabbed at Tarneit

Friday, 02 December 2011 07:57
A man lost his car for thirty days after he was clocked driving 193km in a 100km zone at Tarneit last night.

Police observed the white Holden sedan allegedly speeding on Dohertys Road and pursued the driver south along Derrimut Road around 9.20pm.

After a short pursuit, police caught up with the Taylors Hill driver on Derrimut Road and impounded his car immediately.

The 30-year-old man is expected to be charged on summons with speed dangerous, evade police and other traffic related offences at a later date.


http://t.co/xRjdjx9r

etrocket
02-12-2011, 02:36 PM
You get less penalties bashing someone then road offenses these days

Shulkor
02-12-2011, 02:54 PM
I feel sorry for him most that get a new car like that will give it a squirt like that to try it out, just bad luck i guess.

tacka007
02-12-2011, 03:19 PM
Yet you can get others that go threw give way and stop signs crash nearly kill someone but thats ok you can keep your car cause that's ok

Carby
02-12-2011, 03:23 PM
Agreed, crush the car.

Why ? What did the car do?

As for the example of a kid stepping out 6 blocks away, a kid could step out between two cars just as easily in front of a law abiding citizen doing the speed limit and be just as dead.

If you wnat to get extreme, sell the car and the proceeds go to some do gooder fund that trains kids to stop running in front of cars........., or just general revenue.:deal:

steve_t
02-12-2011, 03:31 PM
As for the example of a kid stepping out 6 blocks away, a kid could step out between two cars just as easily in front of a law abiding citizen doing the speed limit and be just as dead.


Here's the info/propaganda we're given. Not sure on the accuracy but it sounds alright - hit pedestrian at 50km/h and they've got a 60% chance of living. Hit one at 70km/h and they've got a 96% chance of dying. Guess what happens at 140km/h ;)

Jamolad
02-12-2011, 03:50 PM
Here's the info/propaganda we're given. Not sure on the accuracy but it sounds alright - hit pedestrian at 50km/h and they've got a 60% chance of living. Hit one at 70km/h and they've got a 96% chance of dying. Guess what happens at 140km/h ;)

They step behind you because you are already a km further up the road????

Just kidding of course...

godsvt2
02-12-2011, 04:14 PM
is this the fish wife's thread i mean really :jester:

crush the car pfft dumbest idea ever... you :weirdo:

big speeding fine 6 points and a month without his car perfect :teach:

Derek ve ss
02-12-2011, 04:27 PM
is this the fish wife's thread i mean really :jester:

crush the car pfft dumbest idea ever... you :weirdo:

big speeding fine 6 points and a month without his car perfect :teach:

will be walking for 6 months , standard sentence for that speed ( I know someone who just had his court appearance )

Carby
02-12-2011, 04:46 PM
Here's the info/propaganda we're given. Not sure on the accuracy but it sounds alright - hit pedestrian at 50km/h and they've got a 60% chance of living. Hit one at 70km/h and they've got a 96% chance of dying. Guess what happens at 140km/h ;)

Love to see the live data on that one, or an interview with a participant in the trials..............

ILLUSIV1
02-12-2011, 04:50 PM
Stuff that. I would fight that one stating I wasn't hooning I was speeding. So give me a speeding fine.

I think people take this "hoon" label a bit too literally. The legislation says the speed justifies an impoundment and loss of licence. Impoundment is supposed to be the deterrent to committing offences of this nature i.e. excessive speed.
So yes he gets a speeding fine in effect that will attract a suspension. Just as it would in any star or territory of Oz.

BEARWOOD
02-12-2011, 04:56 PM
Plenty of kids get killed in the driveway by a car doing 5-10 km/h so hitting one at 70 leaves little chance anyway. Im not defending someone doing that sort of speed in a 70 zone but i don't like the "kid stepping out" card getting played to make them sound like road hogging murders trying to hunt people down in there high powered cars to justify some of the rediculous road laws.

bad88u
02-12-2011, 05:10 PM
i think it says in my ve owners manuel (being a automatic) at a 1000kms to put in sports mode and press accelerator flat...... :yup:

stockergts
02-12-2011, 06:04 PM
dumbass there is a place for everything 140 do it on the freeway if you must have your fix


crushing cars that are not a limted make or model is fine but a hsv or gtr etc i rekon they would make more money selling it off

vltrb-0
02-12-2011, 06:31 PM
what was the drivers penalty? or did i miss it in the thread

HSV Manta
02-12-2011, 09:00 PM
....and just down the road the next night....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/12230572/car-crashes-into-shops/

as aways too much car not enough driver.

MarsVolta
02-12-2011, 09:52 PM
45km/h not 40km/h over

sweet, so i can drive 4kmph faster now without losing my licence

MarsVolta
02-12-2011, 09:55 PM
....and just down the road the next night....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/12230572/car-crashes-into-shops/

as aways too much car not enough driver.

god dammit, now the do-gooders will be really pushing to to have young people banned from driving "hi performance cars" . real nanny state then.

OMR346
02-12-2011, 09:58 PM
Good point, but there wouldn't be a 70 zone in a residential area.

140 in a 70 zone is just plain stupid though.

There are houses on main roads with 80km speed limits.

Mick1
02-12-2011, 09:59 PM
i think it says in my ve owners manuel (being a automatic) at a 1000kms to put in sports mode and press accelerator flat...... :yup:


And l say in defence of my actions Your Honor...........:D

Jamolad
02-12-2011, 10:11 PM
Just an innocent mistake...at the bottom of his licence renewal it says, "Tear along dotted line"

VX-300
02-12-2011, 10:21 PM
If I am to believe my mate in WA they are very hot on impounding when 40km/h over the limit. He reckons the WA cops recently impounded one of their own (marked) patrol bikes after it was caught doing more than 40km/h over the limit escorting Cold Chisel to a gig.

Think I might check Google to see if he was talking crap. Doesn't sound right that their escort would speed just to get Chisel to a gig on time, nor does it sound right that they would impound one of their own vehicles.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/12227316/cop-charged-over-cold-chisel-dash/

HSV Manta
02-12-2011, 10:45 PM
god dammit, now the do-gooders will be really pushing to to have young people banned from driving "hi performance cars" . real nanny state then.

Maybe not such a bad thing...

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/12228029/stop-p-platers-driving-powerful-cars-top-cop/

awesome _vzss
03-12-2011, 08:44 AM
Maybe not such a bad thing...

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/12228029/stop-p-platers-driving-powerful-cars-top-cop/

Well ever since they changed the rules about p players driving turbo or v8 powered cars in nsw,I have Defently noticed a change in how most p platers drive.
I can't say it put a stop to all the stupid things they do but Atleast its slowed them down by not allowing to have such high powered cars.

I am not targeting p platers, anyone driving at 140km/h in a 70km/h should be removed off the road at once and their car inpounded.

Peter B - CV8
03-12-2011, 01:37 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

That just doesn't sound right. According to the Holden website the Maloo ute can pull up in 36 metres from 100kph. I would reckon at 140kph it would take maybe 60-70 metres - nowhere near the 110 metres you have quoted.

davus
03-12-2011, 01:45 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

Nothing more to add. Good response.

Peter B - CV8
03-12-2011, 01:56 PM
That just doesn't sound right. According to the Holden website the Maloo ute can pull up in 36 metres from 100kph. I would reckon at 140kph it would take maybe 60-70 metres - nowhere near the 110 metres you have quoted.

I might owe you an apology HSVREDSLED. It appears the Holden quoted stopping distance doesn't include driver re-action time - which typically has the effect of roughly doubling the stopping distance.

LJCHSV
03-12-2011, 06:35 PM
If parents did a better job bringing up their dirt magnets.. they'd know not to run out onto the road...f@#king hate that argument...... I see better behaved dogs these days.

Its just a shame he got caught.

zorro
03-12-2011, 07:16 PM
I take it you don't have kids huh?

ssv402
03-12-2011, 07:37 PM
Braking distance from 140km/h is 110 metres. Average house block width is 15 metres. So if a kid jumps out of his driveway when the car is 6 houses away, the kid gets killed.

Crush the car.

Damned kids sitting in the middle of highways... :bawl:

ssv402
03-12-2011, 07:41 PM
I take it you don't have kids huh?

Unless you have dirt magnets I would not be taking offence to that. I am sure you have taught your kids well, to not run out onto roads blind, good manners, so you have nothing to worry about.

Why doesnt everyone start whinging about trucks doing more than 70km/h. Loaded trucks, kids running onto the road, good luck.

Sooking about what may happen is the justification of the self righteous... Sometimes things just happen... I dont drive beyond the legal limits, but there are plenty of parents, elderly, young people, in all sorts of cars that drive like loonies and are outright dangerous at times.

There is a time and a place for things, who knows where the bloke with the maloo did it, but no one got killed and no bus loads of disabled children were murdered by a flaming maloo from the gates of hell, so I can assume he picked his place using sense, maloos would get to 170 ish quite easily so 140 really is nothing to justify killing the bloke (its just the start of third gear really so get over it). It would have been a few seconds flat thats it.

Martin_D
03-12-2011, 07:44 PM
This thread is dumb :(

ssv402
03-12-2011, 07:54 PM
Love to see the live data on that one, or an interview with a participant in the trials..............

Apparently the speed that would minimise deaths would be 40/50kmh, anything higher you may as well be hit at 200kmh anyway.

Mick1
03-12-2011, 09:06 PM
This thread is dumb :(


Dunno about that, l'm injoying these alternative vews:popcorn:

MarsVolta
03-12-2011, 09:16 PM
WA newspapers are really smashing the whole " this wouldnt have happened in most other states since P platers cannot drive hi-performance vehicles", There's an agenda , and they are using the two latest p plater crashes as a catalyst to bring in more draconian driving laws.

I just HATE these pole smoker's trying to tell you what you can and can't drive, its a load of shit, what about all the people that crash "hi-performance " vehicles when they hold a full licence ?, where the fark does it stop, the government isnt happy until they control every aspect of your life .

smithenberry
03-12-2011, 09:41 PM
What an idiot what would of happened if he got hit by a meteorite and lost control of his car?? That man should be hung.

Mick1
04-12-2011, 08:23 AM
What an idiot what would of happened if he got hit by a meteorite and lost control of his car?? That man should be hung.


Hit by a meteori......:werd: .....starting to see what u mean Martin!

Phizzle
04-12-2011, 03:53 PM
WA newspapers are really smashing the whole " this wouldnt have happened in most other states since P platers cannot drive hi-performance vehicles", There's an agenda , and they are using the two latest p plater crashes as a catalyst to bring in more draconian driving laws.

I just HATE these pole smoker's trying to tell you what you can and can't drive, its a load of shit, what about all the people that crash "hi-performance " vehicles when they hold a full licence ?, where the fark does it stop, the government isnt happy until they control every aspect of your life .
Just remember it was your age group that got the current governments, state and federal, voted in. Now you act mad when they take your pants down and don't use lube? Welcome to real life where you have to decide who is going to f$@k you over less.

MarsVolta
04-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Just remember it was your age group that got the current governments, state and federal, voted in. Now you act mad when they take your pants down and don't use lube? Welcome to real life where you have to decide who is going to f$@k you over less.

No need to be condescending to me , im alot more politically aware than alot of people my age that i know, most are to busy watching jersey shore on mtv.

Im not sure i understand what you mean by my age group that voted in the government ??, do statistics show this ??, because i sure as hell didnt vote for gillard or the greens,& i did not vote for labour in my own electorate(which won anyways) but i dont see how that has to do with the subject, its all in the hands of rob johnson.

This whole thing smells of a totalitarian state.

VYBerlinaV8
04-12-2011, 04:44 PM
I thought it was just performance car common sense that if you wanted to give it a squirt you take it out of town and away from others.

ice57l
04-12-2011, 05:26 PM
when i took a e3 for a test drive with the sales man , he took to 120 in a 60 zone and pulled 1g to show how good the brakes are .. should we crush it? we have all done stupid things , looked back and thought **** how lucky were we it didnt go bad , but to sell or even crush his car really? so now the guy does one stupid thing he gets the fines , pays the one months impound fee then has to pay the bank back 60 to 70 k for a car he no longer has.
you would get less for drink driving with a kid in the car.. i think people shouldnt throw stones because if your trying to say you've never reved it up , peeled out, chirped the wheels at the lights, showed off to a mate in your car then your full of it. silly yes not unforgivable.

Phizzle
04-12-2011, 05:57 PM
No need to be condescending to me , im alot more politically aware than alot of people my age that i know, most are to busy watching jersey shore on mtv.

Im not sure i understand what you mean by my age group that voted in the government ??, do statistics show this ??, because i sure as hell didnt vote for gillard or the greens,& i did not vote for labour in my own electorate(which won anyways) but i dont see how that has to do with the subject, its all in the hands of rob johnson.

This whole thing smells of a totalitarian state.
Not blaming you or anything like that. Just no-one who remembers 17% mortgages under Labor would ever vote for them or their cohorts. Anyway getting way off track.

Rob Johnson however, is a total and complete titwad and the sooner he dies, the better.

VYBerlinaV8
04-12-2011, 06:31 PM
when i took a e3 for a test drive with the sales man , he took to 120 in a 60 zone and pulled 1g to show how good the brakes are .. should we crush it? we have all done stupid things , looked back and thought **** how lucky were we it didnt go bad , but to sell or even crush his car really? so now the guy does one stupid thing he gets the fines , pays the one months impound fee then has to pay the bank back 60 to 70 k for a car he no longer has.
you would get less for drink driving with a kid in the car.. i think people shouldnt throw stones because if your trying to say you've never reved it up , peeled out, chirped the wheels at the lights, showed off to a mate in your car then your full of it. silly yes not unforgivable.

One person doing something stupid does not excuse it for others. Sure, taking the car is a big penalty, but people know the score and make their choices.

Plenty
04-12-2011, 07:03 PM
If I am to believe my mate in WA they are very hot on impounding when 40km/h over the limit. He reckons the WA cops recently impounded one of their own (marked) patrol bikes after it was caught doing more than 40km/h over the limit escorting Cold Chisel to a gig.

Think I might check Google to see if he was talking crap. Doesn't sound right that their escort would speed just to get Chisel to a gig on time, nor does it sound right that they would impound one of their own vehicles.

Generally speaking and a recent case proves that they tend to impound the offending officers personal car rather than the publics vehicle.

Plenty
04-12-2011, 07:15 PM
Unless you have dirt magnets I would not be taking offence to that. I am sure you have taught your kids well, to not run out onto roads blind, good manners, so you have nothing to worry about.


Sorry mate but a 4 year old for example, no matter how many times are told something they lack the natural assessment of personal danger to their actions.

Get a clue, 140Km/h in a 70Km/h zone is ludicrous! how are the kids/parents at fault in this situation?

ssv402
04-12-2011, 07:33 PM
Sorry mate but a 4 year old for example, no matter how many times are told something they lack the natural assessment of personal danger to their actions.

Get a clue, 140Km/h in a 70Km/h zone is ludicrous! how are the kids/parents at fault in this situation?

I rest my case. What was that you said about meteorites? :errr::errr::errr: Wont you think of the children for a change my friend? I do not support your statement that 140 is safe, you should really think about what you are saying. You clearly have plenty of common sense, angel.

I was wondering when the do gooders would show up :) . Come to save the day.

MarsVolta
04-12-2011, 07:45 PM
Not blaming you or anything like that. Just no-one who remembers 17% mortgages under Labor would ever vote for them or their cohorts. Anyway getting way off track.

Rob Johnson however, is a total and complete titwad and the sooner he dies, the better.

Amen to that.

hurricane
04-12-2011, 08:11 PM
Hi, 140 in a 70 zone, stupid, totally and i hope he will learn a lesson, licience gone yes big fine yes, crush his car, no i think that is stupid but if he where to keep on re-offending time after time then yes that would be an option or the better one sell it and put that money in to a road safety programme. The days of old are gone and now you need to pick your time and place to show off, and that would be on a race track, i am definately no angel here but i do know that if i screwed up and took out someone's life threw being a dickhead on the road i would never forgive myself, thats providing i didnt kill myself as well, i love my modified cars and have a responsibility to try and behave and not try and waste all the money i have put into my pride and joy to keep it on the road and then go to a track where in controlled conditions i can do what i like and enjoy my fruits of labour. Ian

Carby
05-12-2011, 11:23 AM
Apparently the speed that would minimise deaths would be 40/50kmh, anything higher you may as well be hit at 200kmh anyway.

Oh yeah - does it make a difference if you are hit at 50kph by a 2.5T Landcruiser with Bull bar as opposed to a MX- 5 doing 50Kph?

I think education on this matter should be very much focused on kids not running around roads from a very early age.

BEARWOOD
05-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Why is everyone talking about kids running onto the road? A kid didn't run onto the road so its not relevant, you cant punish someone with the case of "what if".

Everyone that wants to hang this guy can you honestly say you have never text while driving or changed a cd or looked down when you've spilt bbq sauce all down the front of your shirt, all different scenarios that are just as dangerous as each other if a "kid runs out", especially if you drive a 4x4 with a 5 post tuff bar mounted to the front.

vltrb-0
05-12-2011, 12:07 PM
Why is everyone talking about kids running onto the road? A kid didn't run onto the road so its not relevant, you cant punish someone with the case of "what if".

Everyone that wants to hang this guy can you honestly say you have never text while driving or changed a cd or looked down when you've spilt bbq sauce all down the front of your shirt, all different scenarios that are just as dangerous as each other if a "kid runs out", especially if you drive a 4x4 with a 5 post tuff bar mounted to the front.

like the bikers on the weekend from the rebels, came in contact with a young boy and sadly he passed away

the rider was cleared of all wrong doing, does this mean the law creators are liable for having a speed limit that is too high in the area?

steve_t
05-12-2011, 12:15 PM
Why is everyone talking about kids running onto the road? A kid didn't run onto the road so its not relevant, you cant punish someone with the case of "what if".


Umm... err.... speed limits are "what if" limits. Motorbike helmets are compulsory for "what if" reasons.
Drink driving - you're driving drunk but you haven't crashed or killed anyone yet, why punish them?? :teach:

255-LS1
05-12-2011, 12:23 PM
you cant punish someone with the case of "what if".



yes you can.. :teach: well in the work place worksafe can :lol: if theres a risk to safety and you get caught you're stuffed.

BEARWOOD
05-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Umm... err.... speed limits are "what if" limits. Motorbike helmets are compulsory for "what if" reasons.
Drink driving - you're driving drunk but you haven't crashed or killed anyone yet, why punish them?? :teach:

No actually you are wrong and very confused. I said you cant punish someone based on "what if they do something" meaning you cant punish him incase he hit a kid or incase he got drunk & then drove or incase he speeds or incase he doesn't wear a helmet. If he actually does any of these things then he has done the wrong thing and can be punished for it but he didn't hit a kid that just happened to step out so thats why it's also irrelevant. Understand?

Vulture
05-12-2011, 03:11 PM
Crush the car.


Agreed, crush the car.

So he loses $70,000+ dollars for a *technical breach* of the law?
Not one person was injured in any way. No property was damaged.

What kind of penalty would he have got for bashing some bloke on a friday night? $70,000? Somehow I doubt it.

We know nothing of the circumstances involved: the road, how busy it was, how many side-streets etc. The devil is in the detail. There are plenty of dead straight, divided roads where a quick blast to 140km/h would hardly be taking one's life into one's hands.

I accelerate the Senator onto the freeway at a decent clip at times (I'm sure it's hit 140+ for a few seconds). Crucify me, then burn my body, throw me to the wolves and crush the car for what would not even raise an eyebrow in most European countries. In fact, it would be expected as a safe way to join the traffic flow.

Yes, he broke the law, but as mentioned earlier, it seems that road penalties are seriously disproportionate to the severity of the offence. As are the attitudes of the community to go with it. What surprises me is that we have these over-the-top attitudes on an enthusiast forum. :cussing:

VYBerlinaV8
05-12-2011, 03:11 PM
No actually you are wrong and very confused. I said you cant punish someone based on "what if they do something" meaning you cant punish him incase he hit a kid or incase he got drunk & then drove or incase he speeds or incase he doesn't wear a helmet. If he actually does any of these things then he has done the wrong thing and can be punished for it but he didn't hit a kid that just happened to step out so thats why it's also irrelevant. Understand?

The law was broken because he was speeding. Anything else is just discussion.

BEARWOOD
05-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Never have i said he wasn't speeding or doing the wrong thing, my frustration is from all the people saying about the "kid jumping out" when there was no kid in this incident so therefore he can not be blamed or anything else for a "what if" type scenario.

VY-SV8
05-12-2011, 05:10 PM
never have i seen a larger population of complete hypocrites. Crush the car..... hahahahahaha. Whoever said that should have their license revoked as they have clearly lost touch with reality and cannot be trusted with their own "kid seaking missle" as we should all now call our performance cars.

he made his error, got caught and is doing the time. case closed.

steve_t
05-12-2011, 06:05 PM
No actually you are wrong and very confused. I said you cant punish someone based on "what if they do something" meaning you cant punish him incase he hit a kid or incase he got drunk & then drove or incase he speeds or incase he doesn't wear a helmet. If he actually does any of these things then he has done the wrong thing and can be punished for it but he didn't hit a kid that just happened to step out so thats why it's also irrelevant. Understand?

Why do you think speed limits exist?

VY-SV8
05-12-2011, 06:37 PM
Why do you think speed limits exist?

revenue raising of course..... duh.

MarsVolta
05-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Why do you think speed limits exist?

For government revenue:yahoo:

LJCHSV
05-12-2011, 07:17 PM
I will say something though... since i said what i said... whlist raping my Maloo thru suburburn backstreets yesterday & today... my eyes were darting from side to side like you wouldn't believe..... not for cops though.... for 4 year olds running out from parked cars. :wave:

motorin on
05-12-2011, 07:53 PM
He was just unlucky. I'm sure everyone who has purchased a high performance car has given it a squirt on a public road.
haven't been that quick in my SS due 2 no trips away,but hit over 140 a few times on trips away 2 Qld and in Qld with my AU XR6-All the shadows look like roos at 2 in the a.m.
140 in a 70 zone is plain stupid and dangerous

Plenty
05-12-2011, 10:27 PM
A typical attitude of she'll be right, won't happen to me is well on the way here.
Guys just because it has not happened to you or you don't know anyone it has happened to, doesn't mean it won't and can't!

A couple of years ago a 20 something year old in an HSV GTO coupe thought it wouldn't be so dangerous to overtake a car in a 50km\h zone doing an estimated 100km/h, well it porbably would have been safe until a car pulled out from the side street as he was overtaking, causing him to swerve, lose control, mount a kerb and plough straight into a mother checking her mail ( she was holding her infant) the child died!

All from a seemingly innocent overtake in a capable car. It does happen and will happen. It's quite obvious that the more times you "have a thrash" the more chance that statistics catch up.

He did the crime and he'll do the time. :wave:

macca33
05-12-2011, 10:50 PM
A typical attitude of she'll be right, won't happen to me is well on the way here.
Guys just because it has not happened to you or you don't know anyone it has happened to, doesn't mean it won't and can't!

A couple of years ago a 20 something year old in an HSV GTO coupe thought it wouldn't be so dangerous to overtake a car in a 50km\h zone doing an estimated 100km/h, well it porbably would have been safe until a car pulled out from the side street as he was overtaking, causing him to swerve, lose control, mount a kerb and plough straight into a mother checking her mail ( she was holding her infant) the child died!

All from a seemingly innocent overtake in a capable car. It does happen and will happen. It's quite obvious that the more times you "have a thrash" the more chance that statistics catch up.

He did the crime and he'll do the time. :wave:


How very true - you may do it and survive 99 times, but on the 100th go it is all over.

The driving was stupid and he does deserve to lose his licence. Anything else is pure speculation. :bday:

Paleface
06-12-2011, 11:26 AM
Maybe if licences weren't so easy to get? ....... but that might cost votes

brentonsav
06-12-2011, 12:14 PM
totally agree with 40 and 50 zones. i had 12 months to think about my dumb actions in a vr v6 commodore when I was 20 after doing something similar.

Suburbia should be better policed. Instead of sitting on open roads that are 60 that everyone speeds down, get the hair dryer out on places that are truly dangerous such as school zones and suburbia generally. You might not make as much money, but they're more likely to save lives.

i don't think many would complain about getting a fine in a busy area.

steve_t
06-12-2011, 01:11 PM
totally agree with 40 and 50 zones. i had 12 months to think about my dumb actions in a vr v6 commodore when I was 20 after doing something similar.

Suburbia should be better policed. Instead of sitting on open roads that are 60 that everyone speeds down, get the hair dryer out on places that are truly dangerous such as school zones and suburbia generally. You might not make as much money, but they're more likely to save lives.

i don't think many would complain about getting a fine in a busy area.

Hahahaha... you don't think people would complain? :lmao::lmao:

But I agree. Doing 60km/h in a residential 50km/h zone is a lot worse than doing 110 km/h in a 100 zone. Even 120km/h in a 100 zone isn't as bad cos you know there won't be pedestrians and cyclists.
We get a lot more police presence outside schools these days and while the leeway for speed in 9km/h, it's only 4km/h outside schools