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JET-33
29-12-2011, 11:10 PM
the past few years ive had an m6 cv8 so had the basic mods done - exhaust, otr, mafless tune

i might be changing over to a vy s2 clubby soon (a4) and was curious as to what mods people usually do differently...

what engine parts are different from an 02 cv8 to 04 vy s2 clubby? i assume there are some difference besides tuning to get it from low 200s to 285

is the standard hsv intake good enough to leave on and simply get a mafless tune (no otrcai)?

are there any basic mods that can be done to improve the auto / shift patterns? eg can that be reprogrammed like when doing the mafless tune?

feels like being a noob again switching from a basic m6 ls1 to hsv a4

Smashfist
30-12-2011, 06:37 AM
feels like being a noob again switching from a basic m6 ls1 to hsv a4

I did exactly that 6 months or so ago. I still miss the third pedal, but everything "feels" better in my VY Clubsport compared to the VY SS I used to have. It handles better, is more comfortable to sit in, and pulls better stock-for-stock. I'd do a new intake anyway - VY2 I think got the better piping, but either way you'll want a CAI if you're going to go through the motions of tuning it.

The A4 WILL shit you to tears, get it tuned ASAP. I haven't done mine, but the only reason for that is I'm on workcover (hence having to drop the manual) and on reduced pay until I can get back to work :(

JET-33
30-12-2011, 07:02 AM
The A4 WILL shit you to tears, get it tuned ASAP. I haven't done mine, but the only reason for that is I'm on workcover (hence having to drop the manual) and on reduced pay until I can get back to work :(

sorry to hear! im glad the auto can be tuned :) maybe some bigger ratio diff gears down the track will also help...

whitels1ss
30-12-2011, 08:10 AM
The VY II HSV has a much better cold air intake than the earlier models and also has a much better exhaust,
(you can see the bigger HSV intake pipe)
it also has the best set of headers on any LS1 from the factory.
As said before a decent tune will help it heaps, they tweak the shifts in the transmission at the same time and make them faster and firmer,
you should be able to find a decent tuner in Melbourne easy
BUT.....make sure you go to one like "Chev's" where you can read plenty of great stories from happy customers on the forum
and not just sales talk and shallow promises from the guy at the workshop who may just be wanting to take your money.

whitels1ss
30-12-2011, 08:15 AM
maybe some bigger ratio diff gears down the track will also help...
Yes, diff gears give fantastic gains in accelleration and are one of the best "bang for buck" mods.

JET-33
30-12-2011, 08:17 AM
BUT.....make sure you go to one like "Chev's" where you can read plenty of great stories from happy customers on the forum
and not just sales talk and shallow promises from the guy at the workshop who may just be wanting to take your money.

chev's the man! he did the work on my monaro.

whitels1ss
30-12-2011, 08:23 AM
Good stuff mate, I am sure you will get it all sorted out then.:cool:
Enjoy.;)

sv300 - 75
30-12-2011, 10:56 AM
I'm thinking of upgrading as well but I'm thinking A6 VE hsv. Is the A6 that much better then the A4?? I love the VT shape but I want a A6.
Ps I'm going from a M6 and never driven a auto v8. What should I look out for?

sv300 - 75
30-12-2011, 10:57 AM
I'm thinking of upgrading as well but I'm thinking A6 VE hsv. Is the A6 that much better then the A4?? I love the VY shape but I want a A6.
Ps I'm going from a M6 and never driven a auto v8. What should I look out for?

Wonky
30-12-2011, 01:00 PM
I don't know much about Clubbies except to say the VY2 HSV headers are plenty good enough for basic mods, though you might want to change the cats to Ballistics. I had a VY HSV airbox on my VZ SS and compared to the stock airbox it certainly gave more induction noise and from memory a few rwkw, but I think a good OTRCAI would be even better. Good thing with Chev is he will tweak your tune for free if you initially get it tuned with the HSV airbox and later add an OTRCAI. I think he will also tweak your A4 settings as part of the engine tune too.

JET-33
30-12-2011, 01:07 PM
i will probably start with the standard hsv intake and see how it goes


I think he will also tweak your A4 settings as part of the engine tune too.

:yahoo:

after that it might be OTRCAI, diff gears, UDP

JET-33
30-12-2011, 01:10 PM
I'm thinking of upgrading as well but I'm thinking A6 VE hsv. Is the A6 that much better then the A4?? I love the VY shape but I want a A6.
Ps I'm going from a M6 and never driven a auto v8. What should I look out for?

my mate who works at holden said the latest a6s are spot on with shifts but really 6 gears in an auto seems like overkill. if you can tweak an a4 to have the right sift patterns then i would think it would be sufficient.

its a big call to buy a ve over vt-vz just for an a6

i was reading that the 4l60e is better then the 4l60 so that might be something worth looking out for...not sure which models have them

Wonky
30-12-2011, 01:20 PM
I'm thinking of upgrading as well but I'm thinking A6 VE hsv. Is the A6 that much better then the A4?? I love the VT shape but I want a A6.
Ps I'm going from a M6 and never driven a auto v8. What should I look out for?

Be careful what you wish for!! The A6s have definitely improved over time and the latest S2 A6s apparently come from the factory with a spot on A6 tune for normal driving. However, I know of someone with a blown S2 SSV and the shifts at WOT are terrible. I heard a tuner speculating on the reasons for that and possibly on the S2 (different A6 operating system to S1) once you pass a certain torque threshold the ECM overrides the TCM. Early A6s were very indecisive and often flared badly on changes (particularly the 2-3 shift when first started). As I said, they've definitely improved them along the way, but a good A6 tune is definitely worth paying for unless you have an unmodded S2! My Mar 09 built SSV A6 was much better than my Mar 07 built SSV A6.

JET-33
30-12-2011, 01:26 PM
correction:

Wonky: the slightly better box is the 4l65e

sv300 - 75
30-12-2011, 01:31 PM
my mate who works at holden said the latest a6s are spot on with shifts but really 6 gears in an auto seems like overkill. if you can tweak an a4 to have the right sift patterns then i would think it would be sufficient.

its a big call to buy a ve over vt-vz just for an a6

i was reading that the 4l60e is better then the 4l60 so that might be something worth looking out for...not sure which models have them

it wasnt just the A6 that would make the difference, the VE's have a better engine package, better handleing and some better mods available because its still in the current range.
the other things im looking for are climate control, sound system upgrades (aftermarket inbuilt GPS unit), and looking for a car with alot less km's then mine (below 60k)
wonky, i would be looking at an early E1 VE R8 i would think (maybe a GTS).

i might look into the 4l60e model cars and see what sort of money they go for then spend the difference on mods :burnout:

Wonky
30-12-2011, 10:58 PM
it wasnt just the A6 that would make the difference, the VE's have a better engine package, better handleing and some better mods available because its still in the current range.
the other things im looking for are climate control, sound system upgrades (aftermarket inbuilt GPS unit), and looking for a car with alot less km's then mine (below 60k)
wonky, i would be looking at an early E1 VE R8 i would think (maybe a GTS).

True - the VEs respond very well to bolt ons. Stock LS2 A6 normally run 210 - 220rwkw on Chev's dyno from memory (ages since I've seen one run there!) but bolt ons will get you around the same as an L98 A6 i.e. around 260rwkw on Chev's dyno. An A6 tune is almost essential, especially on early ones.