2012 Colorado info

[ti0350]

Holden released details of the new colorado available in single cab, space cab and crew cab and 2 Diesel engines a 2.5L and 2.8L full details here http://wp.me/pW2ZJ-1p

[BEARWOOD]

Oh fu(k, what happened to the front of that!! The split grille looks stupid and makes the bonnet look to high and still no V8.....how i wish for a V8 4x4!

[blu ute]

Oh fu(k, what happened to the front of that!! The split grille looks stupid and makes the bonnet look to high and still no V8.....how i wish for a V8 4x4!

Landcruiser 4.5lt v8

[Marco]

I was looking forward to this release but looking at the photos now...not so sure. What's with the weird radio controls on the centre console too?

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[csv rulz]

Passed one twice in eltham, maybe a test car. Was black with a bullbar and canopy, looked tough in real life.

[ti0350]

Passed one twice in eltham, maybe a test car. Was black with a bullbar and canopy, looked tough in real life.

apparently there are few evalution models running around with engineers at the moment, i think Holden are very keen to get this to market after the floods in thailand put back the release date..

[CLUBRED]

Look at all those blank interior panels, prime for a big stereo :)

What happened to the narrow squinty headlights..

[BEARWOOD]

Landcruiser 4.5lt v8

I mean a petrol V8. I watched Top Gear US the other night and they had 3 big 4x4's all with V8's and they look and sound good, even though 2 of them were old trucks.

[theblueweapon]

Look at all those blank interior panels, prime for a big stereo :)

I would think Australia gets the poverty pack dash with many blanks while other countries get the features we seem to miss.

Hope this model gets rear disc brakes. I was almost going to buy a Colorado a few months ago but was disappointed with the lack of features. The top of the range was a let down when going from a ssv.

[motorin on]

there is a Road Test by motoring journo in the Sydney Tele today (18/02)-still no word on price and looks like diesel only (2.5 & 2.8L)
I only did a quick read coz I not in the buying market but the feedback seemed pretty good the bits I read

[macca_779]

I mean a petrol V8. I watched Top Gear US the other night and they had 3 big 4x4's all with V8's and they look and sound good, even though 2 of them were old trucks.

So again a Landcruiser. V8 is in petrol and diesel since the 200. V8 in petrol only has been around well before that


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[BEARWOOD]

Well i'll put it another way. A decent 4x4 truck as they have them in the USA would be good. Not the soft trucks we get here, and not a landcruiser, i've driven a few and don not like them in any way.

[theblueweapon]

Well i'll put it another way. A decent 4x4 truck as they have them in the USA would be good. Not the soft trucks we get here, and not a landcruiser, i've driven a few and don not like them in any way.

I agree. Be nice to have a choice of a few decent 4x4's that are not the "soccer mum" type. Toyota Tundra and Ford 150 Raptor come to mind.

http://www.totalcarmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Toyota-Tundra-1.jpg
http://image.hotrod.com/f/featuredvehicles/hrdp_1009w_2012_ford_f150_svt_raptor_pickup/28917755+pheader_460x1000/hrdp_1009w_01_o+2012_ford_f150_svt_raptor+pickup.j pg

[Dijm8]

looking forward to some pricing by holden soon, id assume it'll be what the colorados are going for now

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/dijm8/Capture-1.png

[VL Executive]

Looks Hilux - ish from the side profile in the above pic.

Pity they have dropped the petrol engines. Especially the brisk performance of the V6, (although heavy on fuel) But its seems to be the way light commercials are heading these days - Diesel only

[motorin on]

According to today's paper the new 2.5 litre turbo model will be up to $2,000 dearer than the current 3 litre model

[BEARWOOD]

I think that last picture is of a concept vehicle isn't it? Actually looks good from that angle.

[zorro]

Well i'll put it another way. A decent 4x4 truck as they have them in the USA would be good. Not the soft trucks we get here, and not a landcruiser, i've driven a few and don not like them in any way.

I wouldn't say at all a landcruiser is soft. The 70 series even before the v8 came around was a beast of a truck, granted they are a bit rugged but that's what they are and they do the job.

I had a 4 door ranger for a company car, went surprisingly well up the beach and bush tracks and the 5spd auto was a good thing with its only drawback needing to manually select gears to stop up shift if going through soft sand/mud. Great ground clearance and turning circle, around town would get 500ish klm a tank but highway and towing was woeful on consumption.

[BEARWOOD]

Na thats why i said soft trucks & landcruiser seperate. I wouldn't call them soft but i would call them uncomfortable, rugged, ugly and not something i like. My D40 Navara has grown on me but id still rather it drive more like a petrol car with its power delivery, i hate the nothing then all feeling of turbo deisels.

[theblueweapon]

The v8 Landcruiser may not be "soft", but what other new "non soft" 4x4's are there for sale here as compared to the US?

[VYBerlinaV8]

I suspect the bigger utes in the US drive a lot like the new Chevy Suburban I had over there late last year. Which is why I'd never buy one. Heavy, slow, didn't handle, used HEAPS of fuel (it was the 5.3litre V8 I think).

[zorro]

Na thats why i said soft trucks & landcruiser seperate. I wouldn't call them soft but i would call them uncomfortable, rugged, ugly and not something i like. My D40 Navara has grown on me but id still rather it drive more like a petrol car with its power delivery, i hate the nothing then all feeling of turbo deisels.

Yeah I am with you on that, the cruisers aint the best looking and they are still rough as guts but that's really what they are for.

The navara is a good rig although I've found them to be laggy say compared to other diesels in the same segment and the d40 is very underpowered, I don't know why it didn't get the same 3.0td as the patrol. The new generation patrols I believe will have the new v8s in both petrol and diesel.
To be honest I wouldn't want a hilux, navara etc in a v8, they handle average enough and for the ratio of onroad/off road use the diesel makes sense for economy and torque when needed.

Diesels are a good thing and pretty fun if you drive them like they should, not having a dig it's just if I had a dollar for all the people I have seen driving diesels like a petrol car and then bagging them for being rubbish I'd have a few bucks in my pocket

[BEARWOOD]

I know what you mean about the D40, i hate the lag under 1800rpm and i think its grown on me now because like you said you really need to drive them like a turbo diesel and not like a car. I dont mind the Hilux power delivery but theres just nowhere near enough of it, they feel so slow compared to other 4x4's now. I've replaced all my suspension & tyres so it handles alot better now and i actually enjoy it alot more. I have a new ford ranger in my sights but i'm going to wait 12 months and see how they are travelling then. Maybe i like the thought of a big V8 truck more than i would if i actually owned one.

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

so not keen on the front of that...or the interior(dash) maybe theyll do what mazda did and advertise them all with a bullbar to hide the feral front end haha. Diesel engines both look good but lack of petrol sucks a little. Hard to beat the Amarok and Ranger tho....they are miles ahead of the hilux navara and triton.

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

just looked up its clearance height...very good at nearly 300mm...and class equaling 3.5 ton towing.My biggest worry is ..wasnt the price about 50k for the last model...with an extra 2k not sure the pricing is too good at that price???

[VTSSDUDE]

I would be too scared to take that model 4WD'ing. Could you imaging going through a creek and having water sitting in the foot wells of that thing? Looks too classy to be made for proper use. I think car companies are starting to loose track of what 4WD's are meant to be.

[andrewslr]

Was talking about this with my brother last night, has owned from new one of the current series. It seems all the tradies are getting a bit excited about this and giggling like schoolgirls at the thought of a new tough truck on the market!!

[zorro]

just looked up its clearance height...very good at nearly 300mm...and class equaling 3.5 ton towing.My biggest worry is ..wasnt the price about 50k for the last model...with an extra 2k not sure the pricing is too good at that price???

Obviously haven't priced a new luxy in the last 10yrs :lol:

Even top line ranger, navara you looking mid 40s and upwards. Colorado will be up there now the rodeo nameplate has been superseded.

[kayman]

Was talking about this with my brother last night, has owned from new one of the current series. It seems all the tradies are getting a bit excited about this and giggling like schoolgirls at the thought of a new tough truck on the market!!

Really?? I'm not, really disappointing in the current crop of light 4wd on the market. Have to spend real big dollars to get any type of height out of the front suspension of my hilux (2008) and its only getting worse with ESP and ABS (pretty much meaning you cant lift your truck anymore (more then 2in) or cant put on much bigger tyres without stuffing the calibrations for both units up the wazoo). Surely with all the mining in Australia there is enough demand for a decent 4wd with a bit of lift and tyre from standard. The options we get here are rubbish too, still getting drum brakes on the rear (which also renders the hilux handbrake pretty much useless, bloody dangerous if you stuck on a hill on a 4wd track)? It 2012 for gods sake, there has to be some small disc in the (insert manufacturer here) parts bin they can put on the rear of these things. At least the american trucks are a fair way off the ground (pitty you cant find one without the wheelbase of an 18 wheeler though). /rant!

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

well i did a bit of reading on local comparos and looks like its going to have to be i minor miricle to beat the new Ranger..its apparently that good...bigger tougher..roomier..better in every way in every department of all competitors except for the engine where the navara keeps up...but not economy wise. Bring it holden

[Aus8]

Ranger is the ute everyone seems to be talking about at the momment. Lots of the engineering work done in Aus also. This segment of the market looks like where all the action is.

[zorro]

Ranger is the ute everyone seems to be talking about at the momment. Lots of the engineering work done in Aus also. This segment of the market looks like where all the action is.

I've read a few articles that quotes different ford engineers saying it was built to beat the hilux, they done a pretty good job imo

[[TWIGGA]]

I am still really impressed by the Amarok and VW's first up efforts, would be seriously considering that if an Auto is not in the equation.

[Vanman]

wow after reading this thread i checked out the new ford ranger, looks like a bloody good bit of kit.

[BEARWOOD]

;1998620']I am still really impressed by the Amarok and VW's first up efforts, would be seriously considering that if an Auto is not in the equation.

Something that worries me about the Amarok is the 2.0L twin turbo engine but time will tell how they hold up, the shape also looks dated already.

[[TWIGGA]]

Something that worries me about the Amarok is the 2.0L twin turbo engine but time will tell how they hold up, the shape also looks dated already.

Yeah good point, performs well despite the doubters but how long they will hold up is yet to be seen.

Out-dated? I think they are the best looking 4WD on the market from factory, but that is my opinion and everyone is different :)

[BEARWOOD]

On the inside i agree but when they released it i thought the outside was only in line with everything that had already been around for a few years so it didn't really bring anything new with it in regards to exerior looks. I do like them and they have a few little features that probably go un noticed at a glance but when you hear about them it makes you like them even more. I looked at a Colorado last year when i got my Navara and just couldn't get into them. A few people i know got them and over time wern't that impressed with them, especially when they loaded them up. Time will tell what these new ones are like but. Best thing to do with these new age 4x4's is to get some decent tyres on them from the start, mine was a hassle to drive in the wet until i put good tyres on it.

[VTSSDUDE]

I reckon the Amaroks are a nice looking car, so do the 2011 Rangers, Hliuxes, Colorados, etc. All these new models, especially the new Ranger and the new Colorados, they are starting to look like Mazda 323 with a lift kit. They are supposed to be a 4WD not a sports car.

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

want a good laugh...have a look at the mazda bt50...omg what a joke

[csv rulz]

want a good laugh...have a look at the mazda bt50...omg what a joke

While its ugly, it's actually the same as the ford ranger underneath. I was reading a review on the ranger v by50 and the bt50 actually won

[zorro]

Slight differences as with previous models and go back a few years the Mazda bravo was still ahead of a ford courier and were the same truck underneath.

I like a bit from both although the Mazda global front end treatment is inline with the ssangyong actyon in the looks department.

[BEARWOOD]

I reckon the Amaroks are a nice looking car, so do the 2011 Rangers, Hliuxes, Colorados, etc. All these new models, especially the new Ranger and the new Colorados, they are starting to look like Mazda 323 with a lift kit. They are supposed to be a 4WD not a sports car.

How does the new Ranger or Colorado look anything like a Mazda 323? Would you like a newly designed car to look like it did 20 years ago, is that what you're saying? How many of those do you think they would sell? You need to remember these 4x4's are no longer designed or used exclusively as a farm hack anymore, they now double up as a work ute & family car so they need the soft touches here and there.

[VTSSDUDE]

How does the new Ranger or Colorado look anything like a Mazda 323? Would you like a newly designed car to look like it did 20 years ago, is that what you're saying? How many of those do you think they would sell? You need to remember these 4x4's are no longer designed or used exclusively as a farm hack anymore, they now double up as a work ute & family car so they need the soft touches here and there.

Fair enough, can't please all I suppose. I expect a 4WD to look like a 20 year old car, as I said if you want a car to look slick go and buy a sports car. 4WD are meant to be a 4WD not a performance family vehicle.

[BEARWOOD]

how come? Some of the current 4x4's are quite capable of doing anything a 20 year old 4x4 did but they just look better and are alot more comfortable. Forget about the plastic outer, theres no way i'd own a 4x4 if it was like they were years ago. Some people can only afford 1 car and a dual cab navara or triton etc can do everything they need to do. I kind of get what your saying but i don't think i would compare the looks of a Colorado or Amarok or Navara to a sports car, actually i can't see any similarities except they all have wheels.

[VTSSDUDE]

how come? Some of the current 4x4's are quite capable of doing anything a 20 year old 4x4 did but they just look better and are alot more comfortable. Forget about the plastic outer, theres no way i'd own a 4x4 if it was like they were years ago. Some people can only afford 1 car and a dual cab navara or triton etc can do everything they need to do. I kind of get what your saying but i don't think i would compare the looks of a Colorado or Amarok or Navara to a sports car, actually i can't see any similarities except they all have wheels.

No doubt the new 4WD can do what the older ones can, just in my opinion it looks wrong to see rounded and curved edges on a 4WD. I suppose over time the new shapes will grow on me.

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

While its ugly, it's actually the same as the ford ranger underneath. I was reading a review on the ranger v by50 and the bt50 actually won

yeah how can you give the gong to a car which owes all its strong points to the competition and it looks so damn horrible they had to start putting 7grand boss packs on them so people wouldnt puke in the adds...omg and in the comparo i saw they both had the same product value...the judges on the day just liked the extras on the mazda...still a feral looking mazdamusso.....

[csv rulz]

yeah how can you give the gong to a car which owes all its strong points to the competition and it looks so damn horrible they had to start putting 7grand boss packs on them so people wouldnt puke in the adds...omg and in the comparo i saw they both had the same product value...the judges on the day just liked the extras on the mazda...still a feral looking mazdamusso.....

I think the verdict was the Mazda was a bit cheaper with more features from memory. I personally think the ranger looks miles better but then I like the dash of the Mazda it is more car like which in my opinion is the rangers let down. If I was in the market right now personally it would be a very tough choice between amarock, bt50, ranger and maybe the new Colorado depending on how it comes out

[BEARWOOD]

I know a bloke who ordered a Ranger months ago and they keep pushing the delivery date back an now tell him they are having problems with a supplier and his ute hasnt even left the factory, hopefully its something simple cause im hanging out to drive it.

All this ford talk on a holden forum...

[Street Boxer]

Ranger is being held up due to the recent floods in Thailand (where Ranger is made), now there is a back log of orders globally.. Must be a good product and also credit to the Australian design and engineering team.. Good to see Aussie ingenuity going global, shame it's not made here with the Territory..

[ti0350]

If anybody is interested Holden have released the pricing and model details of the new Colorado, http://wp.me/pW2ZJ-1E I read the big reason Holden decided to go with only Diesel engines was that 93% sales of the old model were diesels.

[csv rulz]

Went to Koh Samui for my honeymoon and noticed a fair few of these along with the new D-Max. The colorado in my opinion looks pretty good but the D-max looks shit hot!

[Puppeteere]

Just seen this. Whilst it seems opinions are divided (no strange occurence), i think the deciding factor will be how it presents in the metall.

Some of my friends in trade roles have the older model, and have been happy with the all around performance. Though they have also indicated that they'll be waiting at least 6 months before an upgrade whilst the 'bugs' get ironed out. Seems to be a typical approach, albeit a perhaps sensible one.

[GOT-307]

Anyone notice the Colorado 7 first look on the prevous page? http://kts350.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/first-look-at-holdens-new-colorado-7/