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Pickles
02-03-2012, 11:36 AM
In the "Supercharged" thread, the C63 was mentioned again, so there must be a few on here who are owners, or who know a little about them etc.
We just took delivery of ours a couple of months ago, so just thought I might start a thread.....and please, it ain't about whether it's "better or worse than a HSV' etc etc....not interested in that sort of stuff.
It's a beautiful car, I think. Many of our friends own HSVs & they've all commented.."what a lovely car". Wifey LOVES it too...went to see some friends in Swan Hill recently...wifey was driving, she "blipped" the throttle....upon which my mate says (owns E2GTS), "Is that legal"?!.....but yes it does have a ripper exhaust note, which you can near, rumbling away, most of the time.
It's pretty docile, it's quite happy rumbling around at 1500rpm or even less, but if ya want to "put the pedal to the metal", well with a 7 speed auto with 4 drive modes including "race start", it certainly has enough performance. The steering is brilliant, but the ride can be a little rough over corrugations etc....as you'd expect, I suppose.
Like I've said, the performance is "very good", we use ours mainly for leisure, country cruising etc, & I tell you what, I'd love to "open it up" on some of those bullet straight country roads, but I ain't gonna do it!
What don't I like....or rather.....what can't I come to terms with? Well, I find the computer side of things very difficult.....the computer or "Command System" as it's called is complex, well, I find it so anyway....you younger guys probably don't, and the manual for this system alone has 300 pages!
Buying the car was an absolute pleasure...no pressure at all from Mercedes Melbourne...and their coffee & "delicasies" are delicious.
So yes, at this stage, the C63 seems to meet all our requirements, very compact, beautiful to drive with plenty of performance.....and this time strangely enough, we went for a sedan rather than a Coupe.....dunno what it is, because I've always loved Coupes, but in this case, wifey & I both preferred the sedan.
Cheers, Pickles.

mjrandom
02-03-2012, 11:57 AM
Pickles also from the same thread I mentioned I am looking at this and an M3 sedan. Did you give any thought to the M3? If yes what made you go AMG? I am away for a few weeks and when I get back I am grabbing both over a weekend for a real world test drive but would appreciate your thoughts.

Michael

aratic
02-03-2012, 12:14 PM
mjrandom - what about the Lexus ISF? I'm gonna buy one of them (when I win powerball :lol:)

Pickles
02-03-2012, 12:17 PM
Pickles also from the same thread I mentioned I am looking at this and an M3 sedan. Did you give any thought to the M3? If yes what made you go AMG? I am away for a few weeks and when I get back I am grabbing both over a weekend for a real world test drive but would appreciate your thoughts.

Michael

M3?...what can I say.....another brilliant car.....but a bit different to the C63.
There's more room in the C63, and it is just a bit of a "lazy" car, ya don't have to work at anything in the C63......it just happens. Things will "happen" for sure in an M3 too, but ya've just got to work at it a little harder. Having said that, I think the M3 would have the edge on the track, if that is your go.
6.2 AMG Litres is pretty good stuff let me tell you.
But really, I guess it was the overall "package" that appeals.....nice & compact, terrific steering & handling, & beautifully finished & built.
But look, we've only had ours not even a couple of months, so there's probably others that have a wider view than me.
I'll be very interested in your "comparison" views, after you have driven both.
Cheers, Pickles.

sjhugh
02-03-2012, 12:40 PM
I checked them both out.

At the time I looking after my brother-in-law’s M3 Coupe for about 6 months and was really impressed compared to my VE HSV and decided I had to have one. I already had a coupe (BMW 135i) and didn’t want another 2 door so it was a M3 Sedan I went looking for. I’d also owned an E63 for a while and loved the power of it but the car itself was too big for just the 2 of us.

While waiting for an M3 Sedan to be available for a test drive, out of curiosity I also booked a test for a C63 Sedan (before the Coupe was available). They both came available on the same day so I ‘back to back’ tested them.

The M3’s are everything they say about them, drive one and you will understand what I mean.

So why did I choose a C63?

The first time I hit the accelerator at the lights it took off like a ‘scalded cat’, the wheels spun, the back flicked out (with Traction – ESP fully on) and the noise near blew me out of the car, much louder than my old E63. I pulled up at the next set of lights to see the occupants of the cars around me sitting and staring at me with their eyes and mouths wide open like as if they’d been hit with a stun gun. That’s when I decided I wanted it, manual or not.

The fit and finish of the M & AMG were similar, the C63 comes almost fully optioned where the M3 doesn’t. You need to spend more for premium stereo etc. and of cause the M3 felt tighter and nicer to drive as M cars always do and the biggie, the M3 comes in manual though they are considered the slowest of the breed. I can’t comment on the M3 having the superior handling ability as I didn’t track it and on the street it doesn’t have the opportunity to flex that muscle anyway. I’ve since lowered the AMG with coilovers and that has brought its handling closer to that of the M3, it may now be a bit better.

I’m very happy with my purchase and if the next model C63 comes with the twin turbo 5.5litre V8 like the other AMG’s are currently changing too, then I’ll buy another. Otherwise I may check out an Audi.

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Xjas
02-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Come on mate, this is an LS1 forum, stop making us all jealous:drool:

Seriously though, they look to be a fantasitc car, if I ever had enough cash a C63 AMG Black would definately be parked in my garage.

seldo
02-03-2012, 01:18 PM
I've driven my son's M3 on a lot of occassions and also my mate has recently bought a C63 Black. The M3 is an amazing track car but I find it too "raw" for a daily-driver, and the ride is just too harsh for me, particularly with the 19" wheels.
I've also driven my mates C63 and it's a far better package (for my likes), although again, the ride is quite firm.
Both great cars, but as a daily driver, I think the Benz has it shot to pieces.

HSVREDSLED
02-03-2012, 02:54 PM
Cruised past a red one yesterday. (C63)

Exhaust note was a little poppy at idle with no real burble. No doubt would have sounded great at full tilt. Maybe wrong after market exhaust choice? Having said that, the best car I ever heard was a C63 at full tilt up the strip in Las Vegas. Everyones head turned that day.

Pickles
02-03-2012, 06:00 PM
Cruised past a red one yesterday. (C63)

Exhaust note was a little poppy at idle with no real burble. No doubt would have sounded great at full tilt. Maybe wrong after market exhaust choice? Having said that, the best car I ever heard was a C63 at full tilt up the strip in Las Vegas. Everyones head turned that day.
A red one is rare......haven't seen one.
Exhaust note?....Yeah it is,.... "THE BEST".
When we bought our C63, we were told that Mercedes Benz get regular calls from the Highway Patrol, always with the same question...."Is It Legal"?....Apparently it is.
It is a glorious soumd.
Chjeers, Pickles.

Mick1
02-03-2012, 06:39 PM
Hear what ya sayin, but M5 all the way for me!:dance:


Thats assumin l win tats or get one of you guys jobs.:nyuk:

kayman
02-03-2012, 09:38 PM
I used to be BMW through and through until I heard the current C63 start up and idle in the MCG carpark whilst we were queuing to get out. I just love everything about that car (and I'm sure it has noting to do with said orgasmic sound).

However, a mate of mine (VE GTS Owner) went for a ride in his mates C63, now he's not a fat bloke but he's fairly big. As stated he said he really loved the note, power and others mentioned in this thread, but after a long drive in it he found it a bit cramped. I was looking to upgrade to a second hand one of these in the future once I'm done with my Senator, but I'm 6'1 and wonder how much room will it really have. The BMW 6 series has no legroom behind my drivers seat (I'm talking touching the back seat), and I haven't yet driven a 3 series (Though I have a 335i coupe in the family which I'm yet to get to steer). So it would be nice to know from some owners (especially those taking it on a long country drive) what they think of the comfort level and room over a long drive.

dazzrael
03-03-2012, 12:37 AM
I want one! I reckon the C63 has one of the best V8 soundtracks I have ever heard (on or off the track) The M3 sounds pretty tuff too, but that C63 has my jizzing my pants every time I hear one anywhere near the throttle....

bok1
03-03-2012, 06:30 AM
i also had the same thoughts about the m3 and c63.we have more room in our c63 with the having kids.the command system is easy when you get to know how to use it after a while.you get most things standard on the c63 then on the m3.the fit and finish of the c63 and m3 over a hsv and fpv is miles ahead.i have my c63 for weekend fun.they are a great car if you can stretch the budget i would get 1 if anyone is considering buying 1.if you have any other questions you can always jump onto the mb world forums and look around.the ride i find is not to firm as compared to a hsv riding on the 20 inch pentagons.will try and post some pics later today after work.

Pickles
03-03-2012, 07:06 AM
I used to be BMW through and through until I heard the current C63 start up and idle in the MCG carpark whilst we were queuing to get out. I just love everything about that car (and I'm sure it has noting to do with said orgasmic sound).

However, a mate of mine (VE GTS Owner) went for a ride in his mates C63, now he's not a fat bloke but he's fairly big. As stated he said he really loved the note, power and others mentioned in this thread, but after a long drive in it he found it a bit cramped. I was looking to upgrade to a second hand one of these in the future once I'm done with my Senator, but I'm 6'1 and wonder how much room will it really have. The BMW 6 series has no legroom behind my drivers seat (I'm talking touching the back seat), and I haven't yet driven a 3 series (Though I have a 335i coupe in the family which I'm yet to get to steer). So it would be nice to know from some owners (especially those taking it on a long country drive) what they think of the comfort level and room over a long drive.
You make some valid points. I'm 6' & around 90kilos, & I fit in fine. The seat angles, bolsters, etc are all electronically adjustable, & you can be "snug" or "loose" or whatever in the seats. For sure, there is not much rear leg room, but there's only wifey & me, so it's not anissue. Ya gotta remember that it's really only based on a little old "C Class", which is considerably smaller than the Commodore based HSV......so the C63 will not suit all.
Best thing to do is get in one & see for yourself......I must also admit that it was wifey who "drove" the purchase of ours....once she had her test drive, there was no turning back...she absolutely loves it.
Cheers, Pickles.

mjrandom
03-03-2012, 10:03 AM
mjrandom - what about the Lexus ISF? I'm gonna buy one of them (when I win powerball :lol:)

Already have a modified Toyota at home not really interested in another.

jc_sv8
03-03-2012, 11:07 PM
You get to a point in your life when the M3 seems too boy racer, give me a C63 for everyday of the week...

exwrx
04-03-2012, 10:16 AM
Just looking at the sales success of the C63 demonstrates that AMG knows what its buyers want, a refined street car with huge performance that is still comfortable enough for the target market.

The noise thing is interesting. Friend's brother got done for noise recently in his new CLS 63 in Melbourne's cbd. He told the coppers repeatedly it was stock but they still booked him. Took it to mercedes who conducted a noise test - 92.5 db. They managed to clear the defect somehow.

bouka
04-03-2012, 10:45 AM
Love these things. Yours is exactly the way I would order mine pickles.

Now Spiro, just get one! Hurry up already.

Pickles
04-03-2012, 11:22 AM
Love these things. Yours is exactly the way I would order mine pickles.

Now Spiro, just get one! Hurry up already. Thanks, & Spiro..have you still got that "weapon"....if you have, I will stay away from you!
Cheers, Pickles.

BEARWOOD
04-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Did anyone consider the Audi RS5 when looking? I've seen a couple around town and they look nicer and more appealing than the Mercs but thats about the limit of my knowledge on either of them. I used to hate the look of Audis but they have some nice looking cars these days.

exwrx
08-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Pickles still got the weapon (lol) but looking elsewhere.

And to be honest after experiencing first hand mercedes' inability after two years and six goes to fix or even accurately diagnose what is wrong with the bride's C 220 I am rapidly losing faith in their build quality and unfortunately I'm not the only one.

Having evil thoughts on a lexus ISF though....

NickS
09-03-2012, 04:52 AM
Did anyone consider the Audi RS5 when looking? I've seen a couple around town and they look nicer and more appealing than the Mercs but thats about the limit of my knowledge on either of them. I used to hate the look of Audis but they have some nice looking cars these days.

Definitely considered it ... along with the TTRS ... in the end the TT was too small and the RS5 was too bland.

As they say on Top Gear, just didn't have the "fizz".

:D

bonners
09-03-2012, 06:54 AM
Pickles, I'm going to keep a close eye on this thread of yours and the MB forum one. I really do want to buy one and while the car will be a few years old when I buy it, I suspect that will still be acceptable. I'm kind of torn a little. My car is mine next year and I keep questioning weather to sell mine and buy a car now or wait till mine is paid out, park it, and then buy a the Merc. Would mean having a play thing that wouldnt matter if it got broken because I would have a great car still to drive every day.

I really want to buy a white one and put the same wheels I have on the VE on it.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/sddssdds_h900.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/image11copy_h900.jpg

and keep the green going...

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/a604ef46.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/76ffb6bd.jpg

surfwagon
09-03-2012, 07:44 AM
Love your car Pickles in fact love these things in general.
I see these every day around my area, all different years and colours and even a few wagons now appearing, never get tired of hearing that exhaust being opened up.
BMW and Audi V8 sound good but don't really start until up high in the revs which is pretty hard on 50kph streets but the C63 doesn't need revs to sound awesome.

HSVREDSLED
09-03-2012, 07:57 AM
A red one is rare......haven't seen one.


Yeah It was on Pennant Hills rd near Thornleigh. Number plates full of numbers like 67076 or something...

73.RSR
09-03-2012, 10:05 AM
Glad to hear all the positive comments about the C63, I am looking at one later in the year when my mortgage is gone, not new but a low km 08 or 09 model.
My plan was always to get a second hand 997 Carrera S but now that we have a child it isn't really practical (nowhere for a pram).
I'm also going to be travelling a bit further for work so the auto C63 will be easier when I'm not in the mood for rowing through the gears.

What is the auto like in terms of low speed responsiveness? Is it jerky or any delay at takeoff?
What about in flappy paddle mode? Does it hold gears?

Cheers.

Pickles
09-03-2012, 10:28 AM
No issues with the Auto at all.
The car is good whether you're "having a good time", or just idling around at 1000/1500RPM....I think that this is one of the C63's main advantages over some of it's rivals.....it doesn't have to be driven fast to feel good....and yes, same with the exhaust note.....dunno how AMG have done it, but it ALWAYS makes that "special" C63 sound....even when ya're going slowly....ya certainly don't have to be going hard to hear the exhaust!
Cheers, Pickles.

jaykay
09-03-2012, 10:49 AM
Excuse my ignorance Pickles...but did you purchase a brand new C63 ?

Also do you have children in the back of it and if so what ages are they ?

My young bloke is 12 but almost adult size already...

Pickles
09-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Excuse my ignorance Pickles...but did you purchase a brand new C63 ?

Also do you have children in the back of it and if so what ages are they ?

My young bloke is 12 but almost adult size already...
Yes, we bought a brand new one.
There's only wifey & I, so we don't have to worry about the back seat.....but like I said, the original C Series isn't big, so, if the front seat passengers aren't that big, there'd be no worries, but if the front seats were more than say half way back, leg room will be restricted.....best thing to do is have a try yourself....or buy an E Series!
Cheers, Pickles.

calais190
09-03-2012, 02:13 PM
You get to a point in your life when the M3 seems too boy racer, give me a C63 for everyday of the week...

That sounds like a sad day...

Pickles
09-03-2012, 05:19 PM
That sounds like a sad day...

Ha ha ha.....No Way Known,... Definitely NOT a sad day......simply the first day, of the rest of your life.....in addition to.....enjoying a REALLY awesome car.
Ya don't even have to drive it.....ya just have to hear it......and ya feel happy!
Cheers, Pickles.

HERCULES
09-03-2012, 08:43 PM
That sounds like a sad day...

Definitely a sad day haha

bonners
11-03-2012, 10:25 PM
Goddam I want one.... When is the question.

gmeup
16-03-2012, 03:38 PM
Nice car the C63 but I for some reason prefer the style of the E class. I currently own a 2005 model E55 which is the supercharged 5.5 litre V8. I really like the latest AMG E63 which has the 5.5 litre twin turbo engine. They say That the Naturally aspirated 6.2 litre is the best sounding V8 ever made and the latest AMG engine although sounds tough and loud it does not exceed the aural bliss of the 6.2 litre. I will be looking for a near new E63 but I don't know which engine to get as I know the 6.2 sounds better even though it has less power, decisions decisions.

185iboy
16-03-2012, 05:35 PM
Nice car the C63 but I for some reason prefer the style of the E class. I currently own a 2005 model E55 which is the supercharged 5.5 litre V8. I really like the latest AMG E63 which has the 5.5 litre twin turbo engine. They say That the Naturally aspirated 6.2 litre is the best sounding V8 ever made and the latest AMG engine although sounds tough and loud it does not exceed the aural bliss of the 6.2 litre. I will be looking for a near new E63 but I don't know which engine to get as I know the 6.2 sounds better even though it has less power, decisions decisions.

Get the turbo! They're still loud and if you don't like it swap out the exhaust

gmeup
16-03-2012, 05:55 PM
small little video to show you what these cars are capable of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bczl2NRUc4

motorin on
16-03-2012, 06:21 PM
2 page spread in Friday's Sydney paper about Mick Doohan fanging around Albert Park in a Black Series AMG C63- Nice work if you can get it
Very nice looking ride

Pickles
16-03-2012, 06:25 PM
Nice car the C63 but I for some reason prefer the style of the E class. I currently own a 2005 model E55 which is the supercharged 5.5 litre V8. I really like the latest AMG E63 which has the 5.5 litre twin turbo engine. They say That the Naturally aspirated 6.2 litre is the best sounding V8 ever made and the latest AMG engine although sounds tough and loud it does not exceed the aural bliss of the 6.2 litre. I will be looking for a near new E63 but I don't know which engine to get as I know the 6.2 sounds better even though it has less power, decisions decisions.

E55?.....LEGEND CAR....but different to the C63.....as is the E63......
C63 can be pretty "raw".....if ya looking for something a little more "relaxed", E63 is for you.
Cheers, Pickles.

gmeup
16-03-2012, 06:42 PM
E55?.....LEGEND CAR....but different to the C63.....as is the E63......
C63 can be pretty "raw".....if ya looking for something a little more "relaxed", E63 is for you.
Cheers, Pickles.

E63 costs neally 100k more than the c63 it has alot more power is faster in a straight line but doesnt handle as great but i heard the latest E63 is not to shabby in the handling department, what you get is more comfort but the C63 is the better track car, since i drive alot and mostly on the road it would be my work car the E63 is better suited :)

VX2VESS
18-03-2012, 03:15 PM
the one doohan was driving at the F1 C63 black said the only one in Australia ?

bonners
18-03-2012, 03:56 PM
I believe it's the first of the Australian allocation. 32 coming here I think.

motorin on
18-03-2012, 04:12 PM
I believe it's the first of the Australian allocation. 32 coming here I think.

according to the article in the paper you are right at 32, Mick gets a healthy factory discount for being a 15 year Mercedes client

Pickles
18-03-2012, 06:29 PM
I believe it's the first of the Australian allocation. 32 coming here I think.
You are right...telecast is wrong.
Aus alocation sold out....they are looking for more.
Cheers, Pickles.

bonners
18-03-2012, 06:49 PM
How's your car going Pickles? I've been looking at a few but don't understand some of the pricing? I've been looking at a few that were $95 and others nearly exactly the same at nearly $15k more...

185iboy
18-03-2012, 10:07 PM
How's your car going Pickles? I've been looking at a few but don't understand some of the pricing? I've been looking at a few that were $95 and others nearly exactly the same at nearly $15k more...

Because some people are dreaming. Go look at the cheap ones, if they're in presentable condition that they should be in and have a good history then why spend 15k more

bonners
19-03-2012, 06:51 AM
Maybe. But the question is more like, is there something wrong with it and should they be at the higher price?

I mean this car at $95 with 72000k's and 2009 model
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/mercedes-c63-2009-12250390?base=1216&vertical=Car&eapi=2&Page=2&sort=default&cr=20&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 1090 4294815925 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5

Then there are heaps of 2008's all with k's half the one above (or less) and worth much more

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/mercedes-c63-2008-12008247?base=1216&vertical=Car&eapi=2&Page=2&sort=default&cr=16&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 1090 4294815925 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5|Year:2008,2010

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/mercedes-c63-2008-12127643?base=1216&vertical=Car&eapi=2&Page=2&sort=default&cr=18&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 1090 4294815925 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5|Year:2008,2010

So comment remains. What pricing should they sit at? This is what redbook says for a 2009 model

* Private Price Guide $86,600 - $94,300
* Trade In Price Guide $75,900 - $83,600
* Average Km 45,000 - 75,000

and this for 2008
* Private Price Guide $80,400 - $87,900
* Trade In Price Guide $70,100 - $77,600
* Average Km 60,000 - 100,000

So, using a 2009 as an example, why is a private price, say $95, and dealer cars are all well over $100?

Pickles
19-03-2012, 06:56 AM
How's your car going Pickles? I've been looking at a few but don't understand some of the pricing? I've been looking at a few that were $95 and others nearly exactly the same at nearly $15k more...

Yes, there is a big variance in price, sometimes due to condition, but sometimes, as has been said, some people are dreamers....or maybe they're not serious sellers.
BUT, whichever is the case, it is FOR SURE, a buyers market, & if ya've got the dollars, with no trade in, then as a cash buyer, you'll do a great deal, new....used...or whatever.
"How's the car going?".....It's awesome. Look I know there's many faster cars around, but it ain't just about that....it's just a great car.
Cheers, Pickles.

NickS
19-03-2012, 07:02 AM
So, using a 2009 as an example, why is a private price, say $95, and dealer cars are all well over $100?

Dealers charge GST ... private sale usually doesn't.

Dealers are selling as "drive away no more to pay" which should cover the stamp duty (several thousand) ... private seller doesn't take this into account.

Dealers can charge more as you have someone to go back to if something goes wrong.

That sort of vehicle will get a premium for lower kms ... I'd say $20K more for something from a dealer with 50,000 LESS kms sounds OK to me.

Just my thoughts ...

gmeup
19-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Yes, there is a big variance in price, sometimes due to condition, but sometimes, as has been said, some people are dreamers....or maybe they're not serious sellers.
BUT, whichever is the case, it is FOR SURE, a buyers market, & if ya've got the dollars, with no trade in, then as a cash buyer, you'll do a great deal, new....used...or whatever.
"How's the car going?".....It's awesome. Look I know there's many faster cars around, but it ain't just about that....it's just a great car.
Cheers, Pickles.

Faster cars sure, but how fast can you really drive on our roads today. MB AMG are just nice cars to drive and plenty fast enough. The C63 are just the best sounding V8 ever. My 2 cents :)

185iboy
19-03-2012, 11:40 AM
Dealers always ask a premium and will sometimes trade a car in for a little more if the outgoing owner was looking at a E63 for example so they may need to make up costs. Dealership used cars come with rwc, rego, well detailed and a used car warranty and all costs included. Combine that with lower kms and it's not too bad a deal

bonners
19-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Mate, not wanting to argue with you but I disagree

I wouldnt buy any car without a RWC so I'm not too concerned about that as all private ones I have looked at came with one. Used car warranty. Again, I disagree. Mercedes appear, like Holden, to have a "certified" used car program. Not all used Mercs from a dealer have it though. Check out the MB website and used car vehicle locator. It does include an extended warranty but normal cars just have the same remaining factory warranty I would get from private.

Well detailed. I wouldnt use that as a selling point. I have seen some dreadful details done to delivery cars. I have even read on this forum of guys telling the dealer not to detail and that they would do in themselves.

As far as rego, some dealers will only include whats left on the current rego. No differnet to private.

You did mention GST and being a business owner I do agree on that one. But I believe there is still some sort of commitment from private sale. Happy to be proven wrong on that

I think this applies to all cars weather its a Holden/ford/Merc/BMW etc.....

NickS
19-03-2012, 12:07 PM
You did mention GST and being a business owner I do agree on that one. But I believe there is still some sort of commitment from private sale. Happy to be proven wrong on that

I think this applies to all cars weather its a Holden/ford/Merc/BMW etc.....

Nope ... private sale only includes GST if it's a business selling a car privately. If it's a genuine "private" use vehicle there is zero GST.

Dealers have to add 10% ...

Plus the stamp duty I mentioned above. GST plus stamp duty could be ~ $15K. The other $5K is easily covered by the fact it has 50,000 fewer kms.

Hi Octane
19-03-2012, 12:31 PM
http://jemsonmotors.com.au/car_C-63-AMG-Mercedes_859_0_index.php

2010. 20k on odo.

Hi Octane
19-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Cars dont last long at Jemsons, be quick if interested, ive missed a few over the years.

No i dont work there or know them, just a site i like to watch.

charlie15
20-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Beautiful car. I've been in a clk63 and i can't say that i wasn't impressed (nicest car I've been in, besides driving a Lamborghini in France). However, if i had this sort of money, i'd be lining up for a GTR, hands down.

But then again, there's that mentality that people have which may detract them from buying it over a merc or bmw which is - 'it's only a nissan'.

On another note, the M3 v8 seems to have depreciated more than the c63 (found an m3 on carsales for $80,000, pretty cheap considering a new GTS is around the same price).

markone2
20-03-2012, 08:51 PM
Dealers charge GST ... private sale usually doesn't.

Dealers are selling as "drive away no more to pay" which should cover the stamp duty (several thousand) ... private seller doesn't take this into account.

Dealers can charge more as you have someone to go back to if something goes wrong.

That sort of vehicle will get a premium for lower kms ... I'd say $20K more for something from a dealer with 50,000 LESS kms sounds OK to me.

Just my thoughts ...


Nick , regards pricing , I overloaded Cols 2009 C63 travelled 22K ( SS Berlina ) on asking price...BUT Best DEALER offer has already topped 104K.....does make one wonder just what is being offered for sale out there :shock:
On the subject of used AMG warranties.....the only cars offered with extended warranties are from MB Dealers or private owners who have purchased 2nd hand via MB car dealers.......There are available insurance Company warranties of course ..aprox 1K cost ....but try putting a claim in ....any folk doubt MB's Stance on this ? please phone your local MB AUS dealer and ask to buy extended used car warranty for the car you brought new...it will not happen...and believe me I have tried.

On the subject of which is the better car..well the white ute leaves the amg for dead in outright grunt .......but you'd have to be brain dead to ever choose a high HP Commodore over the complete package imho...:thumbsup:

markone2
20-03-2012, 09:02 PM
I've driven my son's M3 on a lot of occassions and also my mate has recently bought a C63 Black. The M3 is an amazing track car but I find it too "raw" for a daily-driver, and the ride is just too harsh for me, particularly with the 19" wheels.
I've also driven my mates C63 and it's a far better package (for my likes), although again, the ride is quite firm.
Both great cars, but as a daily driver, I think the Benz has it shot to pieces.


Correct , recommend you pop over for extended test drive.....:diddy:

Cheers Mark H

bonners
20-03-2012, 09:08 PM
I admit that my interest in buying one is the overall package. Not if it's the fastest car in the world. But I am still getting my head around the pricing differences. I am enjoying reading everyones posts on this topic though.


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markone2
20-03-2012, 09:23 PM
I admit that my interest in buying one is the overall package. Not if it's the fastest car in the world. But I am still getting my head around the pricing differences. I am enjoying reading everyones posts on this topic though.


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If you really want a good one..and imho the best 2009 example out there , then pm me........we can work a deal price wise if both of us are realistic imo.:)..located Holland Park .

bonners
20-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Brisbane. Excellent. Will send you a PM.

73.RSR
21-03-2012, 02:04 PM
Here's a cheap C63, I don't think they'll get their asking price somehow............
I like the description, "engine is good, just needs a tidy up" :hmmm:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-WRECKING-CAR-PARTS-/140727266704?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c3ffad90

Hi Octane
21-03-2012, 02:31 PM
That would be crusing around Bankstown or at least the VINs would be if they hadnt have changed the law.

mjrandom
21-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Condition: Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections.

Yep that's cosmetic all right!

bonners
21-03-2012, 03:50 PM
It'll buff out.

gmeup
21-03-2012, 09:27 PM
"ENGINE IS GOOD JUST NEEDS TIDY UP"

Gold!