View Full Version : Roadworthy for a cammed car? in Vic
V28VX37
30-03-2012, 07:30 PM
Hi all, I've been tentatively contemplating selling the LS1, not seriously though but still wanted to work out some of the logistics involved.
I know that to sell it registered the seller needs to organise RWC, and the buyer needs to go to VicRoads to get VIN numbers etc. checked so they'll have a look under the bonnet. I've also read that the roadworthy rules have changed recently and the checks are more thorough, with photos etc.
The car is stock-looking but fairly modified: mid-size cam, headwork, suspension with moderate drop, otrcai, full exhaust, bigger brakes (HSV so ADR approved), tint etc. In your experience, what parts need to be put back to stock to get a roadie?
I'm guessing airbox, probably exhaust silencer, check ride height - anything else?
Thanks in advance.
quicksilver_vx
30-03-2012, 08:09 PM
From what I know, the car only needs to be taken to vicroads for inspection if it isn't previously rego'd. As I suspect yours has reg it would only need a rwc and transfer form & can be changed to buyers name. Although as u say rwc aren't as easy as used to be, photos are taken of car, on hoist, off hoist, etc. Would prob just need air box put on with maf to make it look legit, & as I found out last weekend via a defect, min ground clearance is 100mm anywhere under car. Good luck
lukemcg
30-03-2012, 09:11 PM
When I picked up my VU SS 6 months ago the seller included the original maf pipe and air box for getting a RWC if I ever needed it. He had it placed in the engine bay so the photos could be taken for roady as the RAMJET mafless setup is illegal.
black_friday
30-03-2012, 10:25 PM
Vicroads dont need to see the car, the buyer just needs the transfer papers (with a low valuation ;) ) and the RWC. They do take photos of the car now.
If you do what you suggested you would probably pass. You will be up for between $100-200 for your trouble and its valid for 30 days. If not you might want to have a get out clause with the potential buyer or some other arrangement because it may get costly...
You never know though, you could sail through but get failed on cracked fog lights!:flipoff:
V28VX37
31-03-2012, 07:12 AM
Thanks guys. I've got all the original parts (bar heads) but certainly won't start pulling the stick out just to sell it.
Sounds like ground clearance is key, and I'll have to check if the original MAF pipe fits over the bigger TB...
Vicroads dont need to see the car, the buyer just needs the transfer papers (with a low valuation ;) ) and the RWC. They do take photos of the car now.
If you do what you suggested you would probably pass. You will be up for between $100-200 for your trouble and its valid for 30 days. If not you might want to have a get out clause with the potential buyer or some other arrangement because it may get costly...
You never know though, you could sail through but get failed on cracked fog lights!:flipoff:
Yeah well, when I bought the daily (turbo import) couple of years ago and they wanted to see the car and go over the numbers. In fact, they sent me to a workshop to get the VIN stamped onto the strut tower (!) even though it had original VIN plate and matching import plate right next to it. Another $50 wasted right there :(
Underdog
03-04-2012, 07:17 AM
Yeah well, when I bought the daily (turbo import) couple of years ago and they wanted to see the car and go over the numbers. In fact, they sent me to a workshop to get the VIN stamped onto the strut tower (!) even though it had original VIN plate and matching import plate right next to it. Another $50 wasted right there :(
That's extreme I've never heard of that being done before.
V28VX37
03-04-2012, 07:25 PM
That's extreme I've never heard of that being done before.
Neither. This was in Geelong btw, not sure if others have had similar experiences?
At least with the Holden the stamped VIN is visible outside at the bottom of the windshield, they shouldn't even need to open the bonnet unless they want to check the engine number too.
I was thinking of getting cams, but if they will be an issue to get past roadworthy if i need to sell then I may have to re-think my options. Even though I doubt I will be selling but still :confused:
dazzak75
11-05-2012, 10:12 AM
I am thinking of moving back to Vic, but might have a problem with my ute now with all the changes. It has been engineered in QLD and has never drawn the attention of the cops or QLD transport.
Would it be possible to get mine registered in Vic?
Mods are:
LSX 454, big cam, 2" headers, difilippo 3" catback, XYZ big break package, coilovers, VCMOTR, Mafless tuned, shaved and ported heads. Think this is the only things I would have issues with the RWC, Interior is pretty much stock now, changed the race seats back out for the stock ones.
Also who would be the best to go to in the Frankston/Mornington Peninsula area? probably not looking at coming back until the end of the year though.
kevin101
11-05-2012, 10:56 AM
I am thinking of moving back to Vic, but might have a problem with my ute now with all the changes. It has been engineered in QLD and has never drawn the attention of the cops or QLD transport.
Would it be possible to get mine registered in Vic?
Mods are:
LSX 454, big cam, 2" headers, difilippo 3" catback, XYZ big break package, coilovers, VCMOTR, Mafless tuned, shaved and ported heads. Think this is the only things I would have issues with the RWC, Interior is pretty much stock now, changed the race seats back out for the stock ones.
Also who would be the best to go to in the Frankston/Mornington Peninsula area? probably not looking at coming back until the end of the year though.
The only thing I can see being a problem is how loud it may be and the otr.
kevin101
11-05-2012, 10:58 AM
From the Vic Roads website;
"What is inspected?
The inspection is a check of the vehicle to ensure that key components have not worn or deteriorated and that the vehicle is safe for normal road use.
A roadworthy inspection mainly covers the major safety related items, including:
wheels and tyres
steering, suspension and braking systems
seats and seat belts
lamps and reflectors
windscreen, and windows including front windscreen wipers and washers
the structure of the vehicle itself
other safety related items on the body, chassis or engine.
The roadworthiness test is not a check of the mechanical reliability or general condition of the vehicle. If you require a comprehensive check on the overall condition and reliability of the vehicle then you should arrange for a separate independent report such as those offered by the RACV, many Licensed Motor Car Traders (LMCTs) and other workshops.
The certificate does not mean:
that the vehicle is in top condition without any wear or deterioration
non-safety related accessories such as the air conditioner, rear window demister, electric windows and rear-window wipers are working
that the items checked during the roadworthy inspection will continue to function after the inspection eg. a brake light can stop functioning at any time after the inspection."
Stewge
11-05-2012, 11:05 AM
Pretty sure roadworthy is only a check of most safety-related stuff like wheels/tyres, suspension, seatbelts, lights+accessories, horn, mirrors etc.
The only thing to worry about would be the exhaust aspect, which according to vicroads requires a muffler (so no muffler removals, not that you would on a street car anyway..) and exhaust emissions must not be visible after 10 seconds which *should* be fine (they don't count water vapour). Being a cammed car this is probably the bit to be sure about.
As for ADR, under the "Vass section" it only requires that the car was ADR compliant at first registration. Modifications, even by VicRoads, are considered to be a grey area with roadworthy certs so their policy in regard to a mod is literally, "modification appears to be properly executed and not in a condition which presents a hazard".
Have a look at the PDF here:
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/7A14DDDC-3DF3-4ADD-9821-B8C7816777A3/0/VSI26web.pdf
Of course, you may pass a roadworthy but that won't save you if the car gets a defect notice plastered on it.
EDIT: seems kevin got in before me...lol
zorro
11-05-2012, 11:07 AM
I am thinking of moving back to Vic, but might have a problem with my ute now with all the changes. It has been engineered in QLD and has never drawn the attention of the cops or QLD transport.
Would it be possible to get mine registered in Vic?
Mods are:
LSX 454, big cam, 2" headers, difilippo 3" catback, XYZ big break package, coilovers, VCMOTR, Mafless tuned, shaved and ported heads. Think this is the only things I would have issues with the RWC, Interior is pretty much stock now, changed the race seats back out for the stock ones.
Also who would be the best to go to in the Frankston/Mornington Peninsula area? probably not looking at coming back until the end of the year though.
When I moved from qld to Vic they don't need a rwc on transfer if the vehicle is currently registered interstate. Roadworthy is only required if directed by vicroads/police or EPA.
Also which I was surprised they honor the remaining balance of your license, I had just paid for 6yrs before I moved so I was a happy camper when I didn't have to pay for license transfer
dazzak75
12-05-2012, 04:59 PM
When I moved from qld to Vic they don't need a rwc on transfer if the vehicle is currently registered interstate. Roadworthy is only required if directed by vicroads/police or EPA.
Also which I was surprised they honor the remaining balance of your license, I had just paid for 6yrs before I moved so I was a happy camper when I didn't have to pay for license transfer
Well rang vicroads yesterday to confirm what you said, and it is correct, as long as all my numbers match up no need for a rwc, how good is that, stoked about that, as it looks like I'll be back down here by the end of the year.
Cheers guys for all your input and advice, appreciate it.
qwigybo
12-05-2012, 05:58 PM
I sold my old clubby with rwc... had SR cam in it and twin 3" exhaust, put standard airbox in and maf for rwc check... only thing they made me change was ride height as was too low and take fog lamps out as 1 was cracked sold it to a mate and coz it was already rego'd didn't have to be inspected at vicroads
Radikl
12-05-2012, 06:39 PM
Just be careful about the advice from Vicroads.
Had some issues when i transferred a vehicle from NSW to Vic. Speak to 3 people, you may get 3 answers, but you need to be forceful when time to transfer.
Just be assertive and good luck.
macca_779
12-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Just be careful about the advice from Vicroads.
Had some issues when i transferred a vehicle from NSW to Vic. Speak to 3 people, you may get 3 answers, but you need to be forceful when time to transfer.
Just be assertive and good luck.
I've transferred cars to Vic from states/territory with annual roadworthy rules 3 times. Twice this year and once 4 years ago. All of them were done at different offices. Werribee,sunshine and kyneton. It's never been an issue.
Just rock up to Vic roads with current rego papers, proof of address in Vic (bank statement) and you'll be good to go. Vic even let's you keep you old plates. The only time you will need a rwc is if changing name or if it's from a state without annual road worthys.
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