VZ MY06 L76 ( real or fake ) questions

[mattie304]

Gents,
I'm looking for some answers, I've looked up REDBOOK and well its say that Holden made L76 Berlina's , Here is my question" HAS ANYONE ACCURACY SEEN ONE "
As we know that only a small handful of L76 Executives were built, would love one but can't find one. ANYONE KNOW OF ONE UP FOR SALE
There are heap of SS,SV8"S and Calais's around , I just wanted a L76 Berlina wagon as a sleeper, or am i better off with a VE.

[255-LS1]

Yes i seen oe for sale 6l vz belina wagon so they do exist.

[A PSYCHO]

I hadn't even heard of the L76 executive until I seen one owned by dogballs or something on here. I'd say if there are more potential sleepers out there, keep hunting.

VE's are clit cars, every c*nt has one...

[mattie304]

Well i guess its going to be like finding some real rocking horse poo, let the hunt begin....

[dogsballs]

yes, there are VZ L76 Berlina's. Seen a couple red ones for sale recently. also can get VZ L76 sv8's.

here is another VZ Exec L76 (wrongly labelled at SV8). they are around.
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/holden-commodore-2006-12020028?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1|EngineSize:5500,Max&page=1&eapi=2&sort=~Price&cr=9&__N=1246%201247%201252%201282%204294965857%201216&silo=Stock&find=VZ%20MY06|CarAll

[mattie304]

Thanks mate for the link, Ive sent them an email to see if they still got it.....

[dogsballs]

cool. its been for sale for a while now. fwiw, thats the first red one i've heard of. there is a white one in melb (spoken to the guy) and another white one in adelaide.

[mattie304]

cool, how many did they make any idea...What the weight different between 6.0 exec and berlina

[FAT-LSX]

19k is alot of money for a vz exec with 121000 on it!

I only payed 3.5k more for my m6 ss thunder with 60,000 immac with leather. I'd look around

[lowhsv]

no one is better off with a ve... vz was the last good commodores. good luck trying to find one i was looking and found one about 8 months ago but it had 100,000kms on it it was white too

[dogsballs]

i'd pay $16k tops, buyers market (lucky i got mine for an absolute bargain).

not much weight saving to be had, 50-100kgs, depending on leather/audio equipment.

[Micks]

With the last of the VZ's in a 6Litre being rare & finding one with low K's is another problem. Avg K's around 80-120
Good luck

[5.7heaven]

Take your time and shop around, they are out there. I bought an 01 5.7L VX Berlina wagon, THAT was the ultimate sleeper. The look on people's faces (FPV GT, FPV F6 Typhoons) as you leave them for dead is priceless!

[dogsballs]

With the last of the VZ's in a 6Litre being rare & finding one with low K's is another problem. Avg K's around 80-120
Good lucksee the cops got rid of them ~100k's, near impossible with those k's. you can't afford to be too picky, seriously only few around.

[exwrx]

I thought all wagons were LS1s but happy to be proved wrong.

Followed a white VZ Exec in Fitzroy a few weeks ago, was definitely an 8.

[185iboy]

So much easier to buy a Calais and fit Berlina headlights, tailights and badges for $500.

[GHZ28]

All V8 VZs built after 31/12/2005 had the L76 as the standard engine to meet pollution laws effective 1/1/2006.

[Angeldust]

by then average joe blo couldnt order an executive spec v8 any more...

i would be in the market for a NEW VE Omega V8 manual right now, IF only Holden sold them!!!
im the kind of buyer that would buy a base model with a v8 option and nothing else. Unfortunately
it doesnt happen anymore. SO can only buy 2nd SS's etc..

[mattie304]

Ok so what are the VY/VZ 5.7 exec like as there is a heap around , mite be a better chance of getting a car in better nick...already go a VT ls1 9c1 pack that sounds like a diesel....

[dogsballs]

i also owned a VZ 5.7 exec, L76 way better, heaps more powerz.

[blnls1]

;)
i also owned a VZ 5.7 exec, L76 way better, heaps more powerz.

stick on a blower pushing 14psi and a decient cam and presto' enough power:thumbsup:;)

[Phillshz]

My brother recently looked at a neat low km VZ Berlina wagon, Maroon in colour i think, in north western sydney. Guy was advertising it as a V6, the owner said no one called when he advertised it as a 6.0L V8, so changed the ad to get people to look at it and hopefully talk them into buying it. My brother only went to check it out as he needs a V6 for his missus.

Has to be rarer than a 6.0L exec one would think?
Prob is the rarest VZ L76 model produced.

Cheers Phill

[FAT-LSX]

;)

stick on a blower pushing 14psi and a decient cam and presto' enough power:thumbsup:;)

do that to an l76 and make even more :P

[NickS]

VE's are clit cars, every c*nt has one...

... and VT / VX / VY / VZ Commodores are rare and special ???

Comments like this and the one from lowhsv ("vz was the last good commodores" [Sic]) can only come from someone who can't afford the VE and feel the need to justify their old car by bagging the newer ones.

[A PSYCHO]

... and VT / VX / VY / VZ Commodores are rare and special ???

Comments like this and the one from lowhsv ("vz was the last good commodores" [Sic]) can only come from someone who can't afford the VE and feel the need to justify their old car by bagging the newer ones.

Oh please! Don't kid yourself. VT - VZ are not rare by any means, but they have never been as over played as the VE. seeing as the model is STILL in production since 2006, is it hard for you to believe that every man and his dog has one? Oh also any 19 year old kid with a full time Job and a bank loan could get into a VE SS so that ones debunked....

[dogsballs]

;)

stick on a blower pushing 14psi and a decient cam and presto' enough power:thumbsup:;)
cam only L76's can push 340+rwkw ;)

[FAT-LSX]

Lol I opted out of an r8 tourer and went the vz thunder ute for the simple fact that I could have more fun in it without the massive depreciation. Can modify it and cut holes and shit for pipework etc.. Plus being a couple of hundred kilos lighter is a bonus. I personally like the look of a vz ute over a ve as well

[Wonky]

Having had a VY, two VZs and two VEs, all V8s, I feel qualified to comment on drivability of VEs versus pre VEs. I find the VEs a much better car all round. My opinion only. :D

[Angeldust]

ok, same engine, same power levels, ie VZ 6ltr vs VE 6ltr, what will lap faster??

[Marco]

My brother recently looked at a neat low km VZ Berlina wagon, Maroon in colour i think, in north western sydney. Guy was advertising it as a V6, the owner said no one called when he advertised it as a 6.0L V8, so changed the ad to get people to look at it and hopefully talk them into buying it. My brother only went to check it out as he needs a V6 for his missus.

Has to be rarer than a 6.0L exec one would think?
Prob is the rarest VZ L76 model produced.

Cheers Phill

6.0 litre VZ Berlina wagon? I reckon there's a decent chance that was the only one ever built!

[NickS]

Having had a VY, two VZs and two VEs, all V8s, I feel qualified to comment on drivability of VEs versus pre VEs. I find the VEs a much better car all round. My opinion only. :D

Much the same boat Wonky ... driven plenty of VTs, owned two VXs, two VYs, one VZ and four VEs ... VT - VZ feel very "old" compared to any VE.

But hey, whatever ... I'm just talking out of my arse, not like I'm speaking with any experience or knowledge here. What would I know ... :D

[Phillshz]

Interesting to see which would "lap faster" a VZ SS 6.0L or a VE SS.

VE is current gen and drives/feels like it. Is better than a VZ but a VZ is miles ahead of a VT. Its like comparing a VN to a VS, and then a VS to a VT.

Cheers Phill

[NickS]

Is better than a VZ but a VZ is miles ahead of a VT.

True ... but as good as the good as the VZ was in it's day (and it was miles ahead of a VT) it still shares the same basic DNA as the VT ... and it shows when compared with a VE chassis.

IMO anyway ...

[zorro]

That's right nick back in your box :stick:

I agree, I kick myself a bit for buying a z senator. After the new car excitement wore off I effectively had a Calais with ls2. The VE is making more sense however I find our r8 to be aging very quickly and after 50 thousand is starting to get all the usual commodore niggles.

[HSVREDSLED]

Much the same boat Wonky ... driven plenty of VTs, owned two VXs, two VYs, one VZ and four VEs ... VT - VZ feel very "old" compared to any VE.

But hey, whatever ... I'm just talking out of my arse, not like I'm speaking with any experience or knowledge here. What would I know ... :D

Yeah Nick keep your opinions to yourself, what would you know, bloody product disloyalist!!!!:lmao:

[mattie304]

Well VE are getting cheaper , plus there is just a many parts are at the around the same price...
Its going to come down to the best bang for buck and a VE V8 omega look a like would be a good sleeper

[dogsballs]

VE's are soo much heavier and harder to make go fast (well down the strip anyway).

[255-LS1]

So a thread where the op wanted confirmation whether a vz 6l varient existed has turned into ppl getting off over whether ve is better than vt-vz....

:sleep: :sux:

[A PSYCHO]

Yep he also asked if he should settle for the common VE or not. it would appear saying no has ruffled some feathers. :lmao:

[sjhugh]

I can’t understand why Holden would spend a billion dollars on the common VE only to end up with a new vehicle which is not as good as the previous model.
Silly Holden.

To the OP, for me the common VE would still be the pick.
I won’t bother with how many earlier model Commodores I’ve owned as a comparison but I’ve owned 4 common VE’s and they definitely come in better colours.

And for those common VE owners with the ruffled feathers, we all know what we would have in our garage if cost was not a major consideration don’t we.
Tiger Mica VT anyone? .... :eeeeek:

In a few years’ time we’ll all be driving Classic Commodores or new Nissan Ultimas. Some of the lucky ones amongst us may have one of both.

.

[pwr-346]

Just get somethin that floats ya boat. haha. Personally VY-VZ, im on my second on just coming out of a VN SS which road like hell and the interior rattled everywhere.
BUT we will all end up with the 20yr old relic commodore, gettin bagged out by your straight edge apprentice reppin how good the latest turbo (insert rice here) is.
Whats the power to weight line up on the VY-VZ SS to the VE SS?

[Yianni vzCrewma]

cam only L76's can push 340+rwkw ;)


yea then go *poof*

[dogsballs]

yea then go *poof*
anything worked can do that

[Angeldust]

Just get somethin that floats ya boat. haha. Personally VY-VZ, im on my second on just coming out of a VN SS which road like hell and the interior rattled everywhere.
BUT we will all end up with the 20yr old relic commodore, gettin bagged out by your straight edge apprentice reppin how good the latest turbo (insert rice here) is.
Whats the power to weight line up on the VY-VZ SS to the VE SS?


VE's power figures are 'underquoted' like all ls1's were. Its hard to compare.

A better comparison would be tracking/lapping a VZ ls2 (or l98) vs a VE ls2 (or l98) with
exactly the same tire/wheel/suspension setup.


What laps faster???

[bladerunner]

yea then go *poof* must be a gay motor,ive heard a few go BANG! but never heard them go poof!.BTW give me a VE anyday, i like the earlier commys but in reality they drive like billy carts compared to the VE. on the subject of VZ 6ltrs theres a white 6ltr poverty pack completely stock looking (ex cop i presume) around my local that sounds horn and goes as hard

[mattie304]

OK guys, this is not which is a better model ( all have problems being a fast built high production), just looking for conform ion that you CAN get a vz 6.0 wagon as been looking and googled it but have not found a single one, found one report that states 100 where built but that's about it...
So it would appear that they made more 6.0ltr executives( maybe 120 tops, this is between SA & Queensland police) then my06 Berlina's both sedan & wagon in 6.o, So maybe if i can not find a good my06 executive is to go with a Calais ( fit berlina lights and garnish) love the stock look, not wheels just stockies its only the motor that makes it fast.
I don't wont a SS or a Ute, to many around, plus they don't fall into the sleeper columns.
As for which model has a better or worst engine/box combo, they all go bang that's just part of playing with cars, there is always a weak link

[dogsballs]

no way 100 L76 execs were built, 10-15 tops. 5.7 execs yeah a bit more, 20-50.

[lyle]

My mate has a VZ Berlina 6.0 wagon, champagne sorta gold colour,

[mattie304]

My mate has a VZ Berlina 6.0 wagon, champagne sorta gold colour,

Hi any chance of getting a pic of the build plate

[mattie304]

no way 100 L76 execs were built, 10-15 tops. 5.7 execs yeah a bit more, 20-50.

ok, my bad , did SA & Queensland police run SV8's then?

[bladerunner]

ok, my bad , did SA & Queensland police run SV8's then? the one that i see running around here has executive badges on it and its defintately a 6ltr because ive had a close up look at it, maybe a transplant? i dont know rightly.

[dogsballs]

ok, my bad , did SA & Queensland police run SV8's then?
not necessarily. both my 5.7 and 6.0 were northern qld police exec's. there are heaps of sv8's with 6.0's (all colours, blue, grey, black). have seen one police sa white sv8 6.0 for sale.

[mattie304]

Where both you car private sale or from government sale

[mattie304]

Where both your cars private sale or from government sale.....
How much did you get for your old VZ 5.7

[dogsballs]

private sale. both for very good prices at the time :)

[BLACKVE]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2006-HOLDEN-COMMODORE-VZ-MY06-SV8-6-0L-V8-/170819393139?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item27c5a11673

Theres a few around, at the SA auctions think i seen around 5 execs go through

[Micks]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2006-HOLDEN-COMMODORE-VZ-MY06-SV8-6-0L-V8-/170819393139?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item27c5a11673

Theres a few around, at the SA auctions think i seen around 5 execs go through

Those are huge K's on an 06 model ffs!

[dogsballs]

they get sold after one year @ 100k, so not too bad. just worn in :)

[mattie304]

100kms is not bad , I got my Vt ls1 exec with 113kms last year...Stock standard straight from grand dad( cassette radio , single pipe & chrome dress rims ) , only problem now is she got the nasty piston slap sounds like a diesel but i do have complete new running gear build for it in plastic wrapping the shed(motor-box&diff) Just working out if its the best option to up date or bite the bullet and give the old girl a birthday....

[mattie304]

Your lucky now if you find anything with under 100kms now,

[dogsballs]

there is a nice VZ L76 sv8 manual on carsales with 89k, bit pricey i'd offer $17-18k tops

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/holden-commodore-2006-12355056?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1|EngineSize:5500,Max&page=1&eapi=2&sort=~Price&cr=5&__N=1622%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965857% 201216&silo=Stock&find=VZ%20MY06|CarAll

[mattie304]

Here is some more information i found last night on far north coast police web site, some of it sound BS but some could be true, im open to answers as looking like the cops could order pretty as what they liked.....
VT-VZ 9C1 Police

Commodore 9C1 Pack (Police Pack)

All 9C1 pack Commodores have the following above what is on standard Commodores: ABS, FE2 Sports Suspension, LSD, 15" x 7" rims, 225 x 60 R15 tyres, Passenger's Airbag, Sump protector plate, additional Wiring Loom (supplying power for lights siren etc.), modified Transmission Gate (can manually select 2nd gear in auto box without depressing top of gear stick), Interior Dome Light with Incorporated Map Reading lights (as per Calais), Interior Lights Isolation Switch (isolates glovebox light, boot and interior dome and map reading lights), Front brake pads are Bendix Ultimate, Rear Brake Pads are standard "Akibono" made by PBR. A larger higher capacity battery with 450 CCA and 115 min RC. The Speedo has 2 km/h increments marked. Any VT/VX/VY/VZ Commodore can have the "Police Mode" digital speed indication feature enabled under the Speedo dial with Tech 2 at a dealership. Takes about 3 minutes. In doing this, the vehicle looses the Speed Alert feature.
9C1 gets 2 horns, the standard 400hz horn plus a more powerful 450hz horn.

The following features are service and state specific variations fitted on request only:
Fuel tank protector plate,
Electric Windows (ordered on some V6 Qld Police Sedans),
Side Airbags (NSW Police now include these as mandatory).
Cruise Control
**Holden strongly recommends against the 9C1 Executive V8 due to the mismatch of engine power and 15 x 7 rims with 225 x 60 R15 tyres.

Victoria, SA and northern NSW Police only use 9C1 V8 option on Commodore Sedan. (Victoria Police also use 9C1 V8 option on Commodore SS Ute). Queensland Police use 9C1 V8 Option with Berlina Wagon and persist on demanding availability in Executive V8. SA use 9C1 pack on Executives, sometimes optioning the Country Pack Suspension (which is FE2 with higher ground clearance.) On special order SA 9C1 V8 Acclaims FE2 is not used. Vic occasionally order 9C1 V8 Acclaims with FE2. Vic also orders Berlinas in small numbers both V8 & V6.

In addition to the above, the basic 9C1 V8 Sedan & Wagon is also used by Non Police Govt Departments:
CFA (Country Fire Authority) Vic. - Not all are 9C1 V8
MFB (Metropolitan Fire Brigade) Vic. - All are 9C1 V8
MAS (Metropolitan Ambulance Service) Vic. All MICA (Mobile Intensive Care Ambulance) and CSO (Clinical Support Officer) cars are 9C1. General Transport cars are not 9C1.
NSWFB (New South Wales Rural Brigades) NSW
RAV (Rural Ambulance Service) Vic.
SES (State Emergency Service) Vic. V6 9C1

Australian Protective Service (APS) and Federal Police (AFP) order both V6 9C1 and V8 9C1 Sedans. Curiously, AFP SS Sedans have the bootlid spoiler removed, but are otherwise the same as a Vic Police 9C1 SS.
"Holden disconnected the availability 9C1 V8 Executive/Acclaims with the end of VZ range of sedans and wagons"


I never seen or heard of any reference to a LS1 Acclaim????????????????????

[mattie304]

OK just to let all know, I've been talking to all the Holden dealerships in about 150km radius of Newcastle and found a couple that are helping me with information on l76 vz's....
One dealership has sold a my06 6.0ltr wagon and has been servicing it from new to an old couple, they rang them and asked them if i could have a look at the car and if they would sell...Now the best part, going for a look on this Thursday so will post pics of the car and of the build plate

[mattie304]

Guys, just to let all know, yes you can get a 6.0ltr L76 in a wagon ( found one ) plus here is one that was on carsales http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-berlina-2006-12347660

[dogsballs]

my 6.0 exec is for sale.

[mambo801]

no way 100 L76 execs were built, 10-15 tops. 5.7 execs yeah a bit more, 20-50.

hi dogsballs, i've been told that the there were just the 30 Police L76 Execs built. 15 of them went into service in SA and 15 went to Qld. They had the new code of 924 instead of 9C1. The production numbers are hear say at this stage as i spoke to a representative from holden and was told that they could not confirm production numbers. However im hoping that someone maybe able to confirm this. I am lucky to own one of these beut's and have a confirmation from Holden of matching numbers with their records of my vehicle. I know that my car was in service in Mt Isa until it was dropped from service sometime between the 90-100 tho kms.

if anyone find some sort of confirmation of the production numbers i've mentioned, id love to hear you!

[Micks]

Nothing rare about a L76 Berlina!!

[mattie304]

Its taken months but i now have proof i find one in W.A
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-berlina-2006-13186107?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=17&page=2&eapi=2&__N=1216+246+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965857+429496 7204&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=~Odometer (http://http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-berlina-2006-13186107?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=17&page=2&eapi=2&__N=1216+246+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965857+429496 7204&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=~Odometer)

Any one looking for a nice tuff wagon, just wish it was closer to N.S.W

[blair_355]

Gents,
I'm looking for some answers, I've looked up REDBOOK and well its say that Holden made L76 Berlina's , Here is my question" HAS ANYONE ACCURACY SEEN ONE "
As we know that only a small handful of L76 Executives were built, would love one but can't find one. ANYONE KNOW OF ONE UP FOR SALE
There are heap of SS,SV8"S and Calais's around , I just wanted a L76 Berlina wagon as a sleeper, or am i better off with a VE.

Might do ;)

[5.7heaven]

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-berlina-2006-13186107?eapi=2&base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=4&find=v8%20wagon|CarAll&__N=1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965857+904+1216+246&num=15&silo=Stock&Range=Price:2500,30000~0.5&sort=default

[markone2]

Have noticed a small number of 6L VZ's floating around Bris Auction houses lately..but be warned, as Nick S has already stated the VE is by far the superior road car imho...an I've had a few of both ...The VT to VZ however is light years in front on the drag strip …in bang for buck stakes, an that’s a proven. surprisingly the price difference between the ASK on a VZ 6L is damn near identical to WHOLESALE price on the VE …. food for thought....depends on what rocks yer boat I guess.


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[Micks]

Have noticed a small number of 6L VZ's floating around Bris Auction houses lately..but be warned, as Nick S has already stated the VE is by far the superior road car imho...an I've had a few of both ...The VT to VZ however is light years in front on the drag strip …in bang for buck stakes, an that’s a proven. surprisingly the price difference between the ASK on a VZ 6L is damn near identical to WHOLESALE price on the VE …. food for thought....depends on what rocks yer boat I guess.


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Nothing rare about a VZ 6L L76 can be found in any late 06 model V8 ffs!
As far as a Ve being far superior than a VZ I say BS!!! In stock form comparison car for car maybe!! I have a VE Calais V & VZ Crewie both with L76's. Sure the Vee is a nice vehicle though prefer my Z hands down! All comes down to your pers. opinion nothing more.

[markone2]

Nothing rare about a VZ 6L L76 can be found in any late 06 model V8 ffs!
As far as a Ve being far superior than a VZ I say BS!!! In stock form comparison car for car maybe!! I have a VE Calais V & VZ Crewie both with L76's. Sure the Vee is a nice vehicle though prefer my Z hands down! All comes down to your pers. opinion nothing more.

Personal opinion I can agree with ..no problem at all But...BS. ????..care to take a forum vote on VZ verus VE ?...I thought not

Couple of my past and present toys ....just so we fully understand each other .

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[Tre-Cool]

i have 2 vy's & a ve. the ride in the ve is light years ahead of the vy/vz platform. too think other wise is just silly.

also i picked up a crashed executive vz 6l ex cop car 2 days ago myself.

so definetly exist.

[mattie304]

Well if L76 Berlina's are not rare, then someone shoot me in the right direction as ive only found this one in the last 4 months of looking, I'm on a holden used car email plus check carsales, car point each day.
They are heaps of calais, SS and SV8's out there, but i wont a berlina......HELP ME OUT

[Angeldust]

i just bought a 2nd hand VZ vlubbie over a brand new VE SS.

[Devil CV8]

That's right nick back in your box :stick:

I agree, I kick myself a bit for buying a z senator. After the new car excitement wore off I effectively had a Calais with ls2. The VE is making more sense however I find our r8 to be aging very quickly and after 50 thousand is starting to get all the usual commodore niggles.
Just ticked over 2000,000km in my VE SS ute and it is still a joy to drive, no issues, no noises that shouldn't be there. A lot better than either the VYSS or VZ sv6 that I had.

[blair_355]

2million km in a 6 year old car at worst? :eeeeek:

[Devil CV8]

2million km in a 6 year old car at worst? :eeeeek:Oops, didn't notice the extra 0's

200,000km