Orange peel effect on paint

[charlie15]

Hi guys

I have noticed some Holden's appearing to have an orange peel effect throughout the paint. Does anyone else have this on their car from factory?

The reason I'm asking is that both my mate and I have noticed this on our monaros. Also, I had my monaro inspected for accidents/previous damage before purchasing and I'm a little paranoid about the finish now.

Cheers

[SS317]

They all have it to some degree, my Ve was bad so I wet sanded the worst parts to get the finish even over the whole car then buffed the crap out of it

[iloveholden]

After an incident i had to replace a couple panels on my ute (SSV). The paint work on the replaced panels is 100% better than Holden, no peel effect at all. Thanks to Vulcans that is.

[chillicatqld]

After an incident i had to replace a couple panels on my ute (SSV). The paint work on the replaced panels is 100% better than Holden, no peel effect at all. Thanks to Vulcans that is.

Dont they all have it?

BTW a good panel beater should/will match the factory finish/orange peel effect so that the repair is not noticeable.
If they don't - any noob can notice you have had a repair done!

[Peter B - CV8]

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I've got the same on my Monaro & I purchased it new. Seems to be more prevalent around the rear quarters. The front quarters, doors, roof ,bonnet & boot areas are quite smooth.

[SS317]

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I've got the same on my Monaro & I purchased it new. Seems to be more prevalent around the rear quarters. The front quarters, doors, roof ,bonnet & boot areas are quite smooth.

That's similar to what my ss was like and that's why I wet sanded the bad areas.

[munz]

not commdore related but I know of someone that kept annoying the holden dealer he purchased his Tigra from to respray it due to orange peel.....eventually they caved and had it resprayed

[seedyrom]

Reminds me of this pic.

The glorious paint job done on the custom bumper ... then you look at the Holden job where they meet :(

http://www.marksworkshop.com.au/Pages/custom/images/TONY%27S%20GTO%20B.jpg

[GOT-307]

BMWs are known for this as well (I've heard of it a few times anyway...)

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/m3_concept_live_12.jpg

[VoodooSS]

Dunno bout the paint job but man that thing looks tuff!


Reminds me of this pic.

The glorious paint job done on the custom bumper ... then you look at the Holden job where they meet :(

http://www.marksworkshop.com.au/Pages/custom/images/TONY%27S%20GTO%20B.jpg

[planetdavo]

As said above, orange peel to some degree is pretty common, even on luxury brands.

[GOT-307]

The more mass produced the car is, the more likely it'll happen:

Orange peel is a certain kind of finish that may develop on painted and cast surfaces, even screen protectors.[1] The texture resembles the bumpy surface of the skin of an orange (fruit) hence the name.

Gloss paint sprayed on a smooth surface (such as the body of a car) should also dry into a smooth surface. However, various factors can cause it to dry into a bumpy surface resembling the texture of an orange peel. The orange peel phenomenon can then be smoothed out with ultra-fine sandpaper, but it can be prevented altogether by changing the painting technique or the materials used. Orange peel is typically the result of improper painting technique, and is caused by the quick evaporation of thinner, incorrect spray gun setup (e.g., low air pressure or incorrect nozzle), spraying the paint at an angle other than perpendicular, or applying excessive paint.

[iloveholden]

What a painter is purposely going to do a shit job to match factory? I dont think so. It matches perfectly colour wise but up close you can tell one job is much better than the other, only people like us would actually notice.

[SS317]

What a painter is purposely going to do a shit job to match factory? I dont think so. It matches perfectly colour wise but up close you can tell one job is much better than the other, only people like us would actually notice.

Sorry mate but a good painter will match his finish to what the car has on it, it's not a matter of just doing a shit job, it takes more skill to make somthing match 100% than to just spray the best finish down you can.

[VZ_V8]

Obviously if it was a complete re-spray you would lay it down so it is as smooth as possible. However I agree 100% that any good panel shop will do their best to make it look like no repair has taken place and as such matching factory paint is part of that process. Otherwise you can always tell that the panels have been painted hence indicating damage has occurred.

[RAWKUS]

One thing that shits me is Acrylic paints used to paint repairs. Over time the solvents leave the paint and the orange peel results or sanding marks become visible, leaving a mismatching paint finish. Discovered this with my silver Adventra. Looked mint when I bought it, 6 months later it become obvious there was a respray to the rear quarter. I'm thinking rather than cut it as I fear going through to the base coat, I'll top coat with clear to level out the shine. Are there high quality 1K clearcoats designed for this purpose or can a 2K product be used over acrylic base?

[VZ_V8]

One thing that shits me is Acrylic paints used to paint repairs. Over time the solvents leave the paint and the orange peel results or sanding marks become visible, leaving a mismatching paint finish. Discovered this with my silver Adventra. Looked mint when I bought it, 6 months later it become obvious there was a respray to the rear quarter. I'm thinking rather than cut it as I fear going through to the base coat, I'll top coat with clear to level out the shine. Are there high quality 1K clearcoats designed for this purpose or can a 2K product be used over acrylic base?

Who the hell uses acrylic still??!! :shock:

Sure its not just shrink back that you could cut out?

[Spoolin]

How have you tested it to be sure it's acrylic or 2k that has shrunk back?

[Wonky]

One thing that shits me is Acrylic paints used to paint repairs. Over time the solvents leave the paint and the orange peel results or sanding marks become visible, leaving a mismatching paint finish. Discovered this with my silver Adventra. Looked mint when I bought it, 6 months later it become obvious there was a respray to the rear quarter. I'm thinking rather than cut it as I fear going through to the base coat, I'll top coat with clear to level out the shine. Are there high quality 1K clearcoats designed for this purpose or can a 2K product be used over acrylic base?

Go and see Graeme (v8dude78), a spraypainter who really knows his stuff. He works at Auto Bodyworks, 60 Yuilles Rd Mornington.

[Marco]

You mean the orange peel on mine isn't just to match the orange paint?!

[chillicatqld]

Sorry mate but a good painter will match his finish to what the car has on it, it's not a matter of just doing a shit job, it takes more skill to make somthing match 100% than to just spray the best finish down you can.

Agree 100%

[RAWKUS]

Plenty use acrylic as it can be blended easily without an edge. Remember we're talking repairs here, not resprays or whole panels. Sure, I could cut it but how thick is the clear coat? Fark knows. I've sprayed a few cars myself in my time using acrylic with good results too. Want no orange peel? Use acrylic and wet sand. Want gloss off the gun, use 2K. Plenty of show cars have acrylic for glass-like finish.