12 second M6, unopened motor

[Modena]

Has anyone got their M6 into the 12's, without cracking the donk open?

From what I can see, there are a couple of A4's that have made it (eg. Delco), but no M6's....

The closest I know of is Scud with a 13.1

It seems that with 300+fwkw, 3.9's and some sticky tyres, a 12 should be readily achieveable....

Anyone?:hmmm:

[VooDoo]

There is an Auto thats done it

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16023

[FatBoy]

I think Al ran a 13.2 with his old SS ??

That's the closest i can think of offhand - i think that was well before edit came along though... ;)

Paul...

[BlownCV8]

do m6 with un opened but blown count??:hide:

Sorry.....dont know of any

[mustardss]

i think andy p ran 13.3 with stock diff? no slick,and no ls1 edit? stock clutch from holden too?
maybe andy could correct me on this one?

[AndyP]

13.32@106.8mph with stock everything except IFT, CAI, and zhorst.

As far as I know Scud's 13.1 is the best for an unopened M6......

[CALDIR]

Hi

I have acheived a best of 13.3 approximately 7 months ago in my vxii clubby m6 with a 60 foot time of 2.2 seconds. We knew that the car had more in it but we were plagued with gear stick problems which have been fixed, all I do now is rip the rubber/leather boot off (at least the car is still driveable)! My best acheived launch of 2.01 sec 60 foot was when my gear stick broke into second and could not complete the pass...we were on track for a very low 13 on that pass!

Since then I have installed a G & D Performance rampod air induction system which works wonders! I have also fitted 3.9 diff gears (Central Diffs) which really do get the bitch off the lights now and have the lsd performing better than new!!!

These two mods combined really make the motor and car feel much more angrier!:bounce: It is my intention to eventually at least acheive a pass of 12.99 in a fully street trim HSV with 18" wheels.

Keep in mind I have raised suspension for towing heavy boats and a 37kg (2.1 tonne) towbar fitted which all have a negative effect on racing, so a bolt on 12.99 pass should be acheivable for a dedicated quarter mile ls1 bolt on m6 such as a VT/VX SS with 17" rims. The SS should be able to also launch harder with 17" rims due to a slightly higher amount of sidewall tyre flex. So MODENA go and get a 12!.....I am trying to persuade you here!

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[AndyP]

Originally posted by CLUBVX
Hi

I have acheived a best of 13.3 approximately 7 months ago in my vxii clubby m6 with a 60 foot time of 2.2 seconds.
Hey Richard... What was your mph on your 13.3 run?? And also, was this with or without a tune?


Originally posted by CLUBVX
Keep in mind I have raised suspension for towing heavy boats ......... ............. which all have a negative effect on racing
you may actually find the opposite ;)


Originally posted by CLUBVX
Since then I have installed a G & D Performance rampod air induction system which works wonders! I have also fitted 3.9 diff gears (Central Diffs) which really do get the bitch off the lights now and have the lsd performing better than new!!!
Again, you may find (like some of us did) that the 3.9's actually make the launch all that much harder because of the lack of traction. It will be harder to get the power to the ground although the 18's might help a little.
Good luck though, but as many of us have found it will not be easy to run a sub 13.0sec in a street trim unopened M6

[Plan B]

Golly if this is a goal, let me kick it. Who's got an absolute standard car?

I'll fix it and drive it into a 12 second 1/4 for free......... :)

[large]

Personally I don't think it can be done. You would need absolutely everything to be spot on. Weather, perfect launch, and an absolutely flawless run. I am talking about street tyres though. Not drag radials and the like. Best sixty foot for me was 2.09 and qtr was 13.59 at 107mph. I know I can run faster than that but god knows how many runs it would take.

I hope someone can do it.

[CALDIR]

Hi

I love this thread it is firing me up even more to get my 12.

To Andy P my 13.3 run was at 107mph, beleive it or not I have actually acheived much better launches with my 3.9's installed......I think that the proof is in the pudding....ask Krizto about my ripper launch I had the other night...I also think that AQICSS will tell you that my car is launching better now off the line than before, I always struggled to get good launches with 3.73 either to much wheelspin or bogging down, now I am perfecting them with 3.9's!

I am also launching much harder against a friends SS. With the 3.73 gears installed I was just getting into 4th over the 400m mark and probably in 4th for 1 second or so. Now with the 3.9's I am getting the little extra gain of power out of the 4th gear on the quarter mile. My cars best gears are 1st, 2nd and 4th....3rd is always my worst gear so I have gained immensely by this mod.

I beleive my 18" rims have a negative effect on launching at the track when compared to 17"s of an SS....am I wrong thinking this? Please someone correct me if I am wrong as I am still an ls1 newbie and like to learn. I beleive the more tyre wall height, the better the power transfer to the ground on take off?? Oh and thanks for wishing me luck getting my 12....I am going to need it!

To Plan B....I am sure that someone with a stock car will now approach you with this goal, probably before I reply to this thread!......I know I would if my car was still standard!

To Large....I really think it can be done.....And I hope I am the one to do it!

See how we go.

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[KiWi]

199 rwkw

zorst
CAI
stock gears
NO ls1edit

13.44 @ 105mph

I will see what i can do when i get edit and a new clutch as my so called heavy duty has turned to a mushy pedal slush clutch POS with a variant release point and stiffness after 6 months.

Simon

[CALDIR]

Hi Simon

Try G & D Performances clutch. I have given it over 15,000 k's of HARD driving including a wicked 300 or 400 metre standstill and it feels as good as new! I do not respect my clutch and are quite surprised how long it has lasted and how well it works!

To give you an idea I blew 5 high performances clutch in 12 months in my last car....this clutch has lasted me nearly 10 months.

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[Blown Monaro]

I ran a 13.1 sec @ 106 mph with SAS CAI, Difi system, 3.9:1 gears
and tune in Feb this year. Car was showing 220 rwkw at the time.
I reckon a twelve would come no worries. Too late for me on this one but :thumbsup:

[VXZ00M]

My Exec M6 (3.46 gears) has so far run a 13.307@107.54Mph pass. Still unhappy with the launch (either too little or too much) although a best 60' time of 2.18 so far.

This is on Dunlop SP sport 3000A street tyres @ 25psi.

Have seen a 12.8 on the latest model gtech but it must have been a lot more downhill than it looked.

[JLR]

Originally posted by TeamKiwi
199 rwkw

zorst
CAI
stock gears
NO ls1edit

13.44 @ 105mph

I will see what i can do when i get edit and a new clutch as my so called heavy duty has turned to a mushy pedal slush clutch POS with a variant release point and stiffness after 6 months.

Simon

yeah, but your car is a beast. Even with my 3.9's you still beat me!:doh:

[mr ve ssv]

i have 300fwkw, 3.9 diff but not so sticky tyres

going for a run on sunday, will let you know what times i get

they wont be too crash hot, never having run the car down the track but we'll see what comes out.

[V82xist]

Golly if this is a goal, let me kick it. Who's got an absolute standard car?
I'll fix it and drive it into a 12 second 1/4 for free.........

Hey PlanB, my car is absolutely standard but it's an auto :bawl:. I'm surprised no one has taken you up on the offer. I'd be happy just to get mine into the low 13's. One of these days I hope to visit Sam's Performance.... maybe next year.
:cheers:

[TROY]

Originally posted by CLUBVX
....ask Krizto about my ripper launch I had the other night...I also think that AQICSS will tell you that my car is launching better now off the line than before, I always struggled to get good launches with 3.73 either to much wheelspin or bogging down, now I am perfecting them with 3.9's!


Still not enought to beat dad yet ritchie :P

How about i race ya next time round??? :evil:

Troy :driving:

[CALDIR]

Hi Troy

How are you? I got traction control NOW!

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[AussieTone]

Hey Plan B

Kermie is a stock standard 2003 SSI 6M with 1500km's on him. He just had his first check up today and got a clean bill of health. A drive to SYD would not be an issue. PM sent

PS. I will make the brews and even sweep the workshop floor ;)

[Plan B]

Originally posted by AussieTone
Hey Plan B

I will make the brews and even sweep the workshop floor ;)

Hey Justice! Someone wants your job! :)

AussieTone.... I think the position is filled. JusticeR8's girlfreind will be doing the driving too. After all.... high 12's = girls stuff right? :p

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by Plan B
Hey Justice! Someone wants your job! :)

AussieTone.... I think the position is filled. JusticeR8's girlfreind will be doing the driving too. After all.... high 12's = girls stuff right? :p

Had coffee and Pizza tonight actually whilst watching the eng dyno!! Also a black ute on the chassis dyno

[AussieTone]

Plan B,


AussieTone.... I think the position is filled

Is that the brew making position or the donor car :confused:

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by AussieTone
Plan B,



Is that the brew making position or the donor car :confused:

That would be the car position! She will run a 12 very soon. She has been in training, has the new race suit and helmet and keeps telling me I cant drive and she will whip me and my best time. Look forward to the whipping though!!

[Plan B]

Originally posted by AussieTone
Plan B,



Is that the brew making position or the donor car :confused:

I think the car thing has been spoken for. You'd be doing good to brew a coffee better than Justice also.

Worth a try though! :)

[mr ve ssv]

just in case anyone was curious


i ran a best of 13.77

my reaction time needs some major work - .624 being the lowest

im happy for my first outing to the track.

hopefully i'll be able to better than when the next chance comes up

:shiner:

[CALDIR]

Hi

Just a reminder that this thread's goals have been acheived by 2 cars now!

A silver VY SV8 from NSW and CLUBVX

regards,

Richard
CLUBVX

[juzzy]

Hi my ute went 12.68 on sticky tyres with a 60ft 1.8594

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by juzzy
Hi my ute went 12.68 on sticky tyres with a 60ft 1.8594

Another great result!!

[KiWi]

with federals?????????? :stick:

Simon

[r8ls1]

Originally posted by juzzy
Hi my ute went 12.68 on sticky tyres with a 60ft 1.8594

nice time man. :cheers:

is it gots a maf?

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by TeamKiwi
with federals?????????? :stick:

Simon

I give in. What are federals?

What size MAF?

[r8ls1]

Originally posted by Justice R8
I give in. What are federals?



think he means tyres.

[juzzy]

Yes it has a MAF, and another edit care of G@D. It pulled 241rwkw unopened, now were off to Calder Park on Friday to try to get it into the 12.4. Might be poss with a hot day in Melboune with a cold night to follow.

regards Justin

[Justice R8]

Originally posted by juzzy
Yes it has a MAF, and another edit care of G@D. It pulled 241rwkw unopened, now were off to Calder Park on Friday to try to get it into the 12.4. Might be poss with a hot day in Melboune with a cold night to follow.

regards Justin

That will be awsome to hit 12.4 on street tyres. Slicks I would say it is possible but you will have your work cut out on street tyres.

Good luck

Darren

[Sidewindr]

I think he will be on slicks as he did a 12.6 @ Heathcote on slicks .. :)

[juzzy]

Dreamin' with street tyres, hope to do it on slicks.
Hope to get a few good runs at Calder cause the wait drives me nuts.(hope you lot from Calder Park Raceway are reading this and you get the message and stop the burnout comps)

Thats my bitch 4 the day!!!!

regards Justin

[Plan B]

Originally posted by juzzy
(hope you lot from Calder Park Raceway are reading this and you get the message and stop the burnout comps)

Thats my bitch 4 the day!!!!

regards Justin

Good bitch.... Just when everyone has been waiting for what seems like a week.... Another Victor pops out and spends 10 minutes with a following 15 second pass.

:cheers:

Your into it and I hope you get a lower 12.... All the best.

[KiWi]

Originally posted by Justice R8
I give in. What are federals?

Yes tyres, and one of the worse tyres around more worse than Simex,

I ran my federals at heathcote last week and what i will be running at Calder on Friday. "run what you brung"

federals The best $140 i have ever spent :hide:

Simon