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Jamolad
17-10-2012, 12:49 PM
I had not heard of a Brock Monza before???

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/blackstone-heights/cars/vc-vh-commodore-monaro-now-i-have-your-attention-opel-monza/1008141842

VXSS346
17-10-2012, 12:55 PM
Seen one before in an old motor mag, pretty sure it was called a HDT Monza. I thought it was a VK though?? Can't remember.
They may have had IRS too?

Maybe someone else can confirm.

Jamolad
17-10-2012, 12:59 PM
Sorry, yeah, should have searched a bit more thoroughly before posting.

Just found the other threads

GTS PAUL
17-10-2012, 01:29 PM
There was one at the HSV Nationals.

Hi Octane
17-10-2012, 01:39 PM
Yeah it was the VK holden did, these are made by the germans & sent to UK & europe

k1w1noz
17-10-2012, 04:20 PM
Man - that thing might be rare and/or valuable, but what I know is it is FREAKIN UGLY! It just looks so wrong - sorta like a UC Torana rear welded to a VB front :spew:

I bet that injected 202 really delivers "Monaro" performance too......... So Glad that Holden didn't release this car here (I'd mini spew in my mouth every time I saw one).

andrewslr
17-10-2012, 04:42 PM
Peter Brock built a HDT Monza featuring Group three running gear, T5G box from memory and Bilstein suspension on a set of Irmcsher wheels. The car featured IRS and a luxo interior. If memory serves me correct the car is now in QLD with a collector.

It could have been something really special back in the day but ADR and price rendered it a piece of aitomotive history. Check out the HDT forum as I think it is still featured there.

The car listed in the op will be a generic private import I imagine. "Pickles" can probaly shed some more light on this rare beast...

Drew SS
17-10-2012, 05:19 PM
Wouldn't be worth that money here's one for sale in ireland

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/2616831

Wonky
17-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Too fugly!!! :spew::spew::spew:

Jag530G
17-10-2012, 07:24 PM
You are all confused, the car in the Gumtree ad has nothing to do with Holden, it's an Opel Monza, the coupe version of the Opel Rekord/Senator which the Holden Commodore is based on, this car is basically the same as a VB-VL series Commodore. Yes it has IRS, as did the 77 onwards Opel Senator, this IRS is the same as the IRS fitted to the VP-VX1 Commodores. The engine is a 3.0L fuel injected 6, good for 132Kw, which was better than the 125Kw in a VB-VK 5.0L, gave better top speed too.

Peter Brock imported one to Australia and converted the steering to the Holden rack-and-pinion and fitted the 5.0L Group 3 SS engine out of the VH Group 3 SS. This became the HDT Monza.

There are a couple other Opel Monzas in Australia, A green one with a VL Calais front at the Melbourne Motor Show auction and a Maroon one I saw in Box Hill, both in the late 90s.

Cheers, Matthew

JT
17-10-2012, 07:34 PM
http://www.musclecarmag.com.au/back-issues/australian-muscle-car-issue-40.php

Angeldust
18-10-2012, 01:13 AM
Man - that thing might be rare and/or valuable, but what I know is it is FREAKIN UGLY! It just looks so wrong - sorta like a UC Torana rear welded to a VB front :spew:

I bet that injected 202 really delivers "Monaro" performance too......... So Glad that Holden didn't release this car here (I'd mini spew in my mouth every time I saw one).


hey, UC torries are awesome, i had one with a 308 and m21 whan i was young. Here's a pic:


http://imageshack.us/a/img89/2695/torri002xxxx.jpg


fck me, that was 20 years ago now..............................

Pickles
18-10-2012, 06:44 AM
You are all confused, the car in the Gumtree ad has nothing to do with Holden, it's an Opel Monza, the coupe version of the Opel Rekord/Senator which the Holden Commodore is based on, this car is basically the same as a VB-VL series Commodore. Yes it has IRS, as did the 77 onwards Opel Senator, this IRS is the same as the IRS fitted to the VP-VX1 Commodores. The engine is a 3.0L fuel injected 6, good for 132Kw, which was better than the 125Kw in a VB-VK 5.0L, gave better top speed too.

Peter Brock imported one to Australia and converted the steering to the Holden rack-and-pinion and fitted the 5.0L Group 3 SS engine out of the VH Group 3 SS. This became the HDT Monza.

There are a couple other Opel Monzas in Australia, A green one with a VL Calais front at the Melbourne Motor Show auction and a Maroon one I saw in Box Hill, both in the late 90s.

Cheers, Matthew

Spot on! Brock would certainly been able to sell a few of them had he had things in place to produce them, but it would have been a logistical nightmare, & by the time the first one was finished, the model was superceded.
Nevertheless, the completed car is a vey nice bit of kit.
Cheers, Pickles.

JohnC
18-10-2012, 10:22 AM
They are pretty common in the UK along with the Opel Manta