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hsv andrew
14-12-2012, 05:31 PM
Hi there, ive got a ve gts and im in need of a bonnet as i damaged mine, since carbon fibre is all the rage of late im interested in one of these carbon fibre bonnets on ebay, has anybody else got one or seen one, if so are they anygood or not??? if not anybody know who else does carbon fibre bonnets?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/commodore-s1-VE-carbon-fiber-bonnet-hood-wing-kit-ss-hdt-walk-bar-bumper-lumina-/130803310458?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e747c1f7a

pvk308
14-12-2012, 05:55 PM
Hm dont look to bad at all you would just have to make sure that they are ADR approved and ok in your state

D_BLOCK
14-12-2012, 06:27 PM
Looks good.And the fact that they will give a total refund including shipping if not happy,means they have a lot of faith in their product.

planetdavo
14-12-2012, 06:49 PM
I'd be hugely surprised if they are ADR approved. Carbon Fibre has no give and splinters upon heavy impact, making pedestrian impact requirements next to impossible.

pvk308
14-12-2012, 06:51 PM
Thats true Dave mate they seem to be the rage for the import guys i dont know how they go up here........ but i know code of practice probably wouldnt allow it

hsv andrew
14-12-2012, 08:05 PM
Yeah i don't think they would be ADR approved and i didn't think of that i must say, but they look pretty good to me and i love that the Walkinshaw scoop is part of it, ive got a black ve gts, black wheels supercharged and so on, and as i said i need a new bonnet and id like a Walkinshaw scoop so thought this would be a good buy! buy the time i buy a new bonnet and scoop then paint it, would around the same money.

pvk308
14-12-2012, 08:17 PM
I agree mate they do look the goods i would ring DOT in Adelaide and just confirm there stance on the use of carbon fibre bonnets and go from there or your other option is as you said repaint a new bonnet and scoop etc

D_BLOCK
14-12-2012, 08:45 PM
Have people been pulled up for aftermarket Bonnets,bodykits etc before? I mean if you live in a place that bad i guess a cam is def out
of the question.

pvk308
14-12-2012, 08:56 PM
I personally have i had a fibre glass bonnet and bootlid on a vh i had years ago, painted the same colour as the car and even looked like a proper bonnet and bootlid had the bracing moulded etc underneath and i had the aircleaner sticking out of the bonnet. When the DOT officer lifted the bonnet (wasnt fast enough getting there) he noticed it was very lite in weight...... he told me to go home and put the other bonnet back on and the police overheard him and fined me so yes you can be done .

As for cams anything that changes the emissions of your vehicle from stock is technically illegal and they will fine you for it its up to you to make it meet emssions

D_BLOCK
14-12-2012, 09:09 PM
I personally have i had a fibre glass bonnet and bootlid on a vh i had years ago, painted the same colour as the car and even looked like a proper bonnet and bootlid had the bracing moulded etc underneath and i had the aircleaner sticking out of the bonnet. When the DOT officer lifted the bonnet (wasnt fast enough getting there) he noticed it was very lite in weight...... he told me to go home and put the other bonnet back on and the police overheard him and fined me so yes you can be done .

As for cams anything that changes the emissions of your vehicle from stock is technically illegal and they will fine you for it its up to you to make it meet emssions

Bro i was taking the pi55 about a cam.i mean why are people getting all caught up guessing about ADR compliance etc.. when we do alot worse with
mechanical mods,like cams,superchargers/turbos etc.. and the majority dont give it a second thought if it complies or not.
Also it it sounds like your VH was pulled over more for the air filter poking out than hood than what material it was.A passing glance on a well painted after market bonnet
wouldnt have the cops taking a second look I would have thought.

pvk308
14-12-2012, 09:28 PM
Was just stating the facts mate and no harm meant. I help compliance cars eg yank cars for the australian market in my spare time so i know whats legit and whats not in regards to emissions so all good, as for the vh wasnt the aircleaner that got it pinged mate (was stating what the car had at the time) it was done coming out of willowbank raceway and they had blitzed a section of road.... they had five of us pulled over at the time they didnt look at the aircleaner as it was painted the same colour as the car and 1/2 in above the level of the bonnet just doing the usual look and see routine the fines were for the non standard body panel on the car and the front runners i had on the car so go figure

planetdavo
15-12-2012, 10:45 AM
Bro i was taking the pi55 about a cam.i mean why are people getting all caught up guessing about ADR compliance etc.. when we do alot worse with
mechanical mods,like cams,superchargers/turbos etc.. and the majority dont give it a second thought if it complies or not.
Also it it sounds like your VH was pulled over more for the air filter poking out than hood than what material it was.A passing glance on a well painted after market bonnet
wouldnt have the cops taking a second look I would have thought.

You might have been taking the p!ss but the guts of your post said plenty. People who don't want a "potential" life of pain on the roads and on their wallet will at least consider these factors, whereas peeps that have an attitude problem with authority or think they can do whatever they want rarely consider it vaguely important. Fibreglass body kits rarely copy stock manufacturer parts, so they tend to stand out in some way.
Another thing. People who do mods and don't give a stuff about rules and regulations usually show their spots near the police at some point in their lives...;)

seedyrom
16-12-2012, 05:55 AM
That's a lot of bonnet for the money!

empower
16-12-2012, 08:56 AM
In QLD here, I have a fiber glass bonnet road worthy was not an issue. As stated earlier you'll just have to check.

pvk308
16-12-2012, 11:56 AM
Hm now thats interesting empower mate is it reinforced with anything at alll eg steel or something as i know some will ping you for it and others wont. The reason i ask is there would have have to have been extensive testing to make sure they dont shatter or splinter easliy if you hit some one and they fly over the bonnet and most fibreglass and carbon fibre will do exactly that unlike the steel which crumples and folds, thats where the law lays. Most do just run with them on and take the consequences when or if they hit some one.............. which negatse your insurance unless your with some one like shannons that allows vehicle modifications. I know some one was producing the bonnet with the monaro style flutes for vt's etc that were supposed to be ADR ok but not certain there

Red-Devil
16-12-2012, 12:14 PM
Just to clarify empower, did you get the fibreglass bonnet roadworthied by a mechanic (ie: to sell or register the car) or did you actually get it approved by DTMR?
It's very easy to slip things through a roadworthy certificate that won't stand up once you go past a defect station.

pvk308
16-12-2012, 01:18 PM
Thats a good question and correct red-devil, if it is just a road worthy than you run the risk of being fined by DOT and a police officer who knows a thing or two about cars eg State Traffic Squad for an illegal modification. It definately needs to be ADR approved to beat the former two and most dont. Technically the bonnet should be made from the same gauge material as it left the factory with and same goes for any bonnet protrusins or scoops....... that again is another story in its own to be fully legal

empower
16-12-2012, 04:07 PM
It was fitted to the vehicle before I bought it, the road worthy was done by the dealer (very large Toyota dealer) and I was informed about the bonnet during purchase. The car is insured through Toyota insurance as well, I'd say it's fine.

pvk308
16-12-2012, 04:23 PM
What sort of toyata mate i am really curious now as i wonder if it was a factory part which if it is is a win for you really

Woodchukka
16-12-2012, 10:41 PM
What sort of toyata mate i am really curious now as i wonder if it was a factory part which if it is is a win for you really
Interesting point about factory parts. There are cars in OX running carbon fiber parts. I wonder how they get it complied? Some sort of special stuff or weave?

empower
16-12-2012, 11:10 PM
What sort of toyata mate i am really curious now as i wonder if it was a factory part which if it is is a win for you really

It's a Monaro not a Toyota. The bonnet was fitted by the previous owner.

Red-Devil
17-12-2012, 05:26 AM
In that case mate there is a good chance that even though it passed a RWC, it may not hold up to police/transport dept inspection.. However in your case if you do get defected, if keep a copy of the RWC from the dealership and see if you can sting them for a replacement bonnet.

pvk308
17-12-2012, 08:12 AM
Sorry mate i thought you were talking about a toyota as well as the manaro got myself confused and red devil is on the money indeed