Exhaust clearance issues Ve Clubby

[TuffR8]

Gday

Im just wondering if anyone else has any major ground clearance issues in regard to the exhaust systems on VE clubby/ss. My car is lowered with SSSL King springs in the back and SSL in the front. I have recently fitted a twin 3inch Sureflow system to the car and the ground clearance at the flanges and centre to the diff section is like 60-70mm! The car previously had an X Force 2.5 system on there and it barely ever touched anything even with a carload. Also my brothe in law has an SSV with the eact suspension setup as mine but with a twin 3 inch hurricane system and his system tucks up nice and high and it even sits above the original cross member in the middle!

Im happy with the stance and height of the car but it is painful to drive at the moment, and im either going to have to raise it or sell my month old exhaust for something that fits.

Anyone had any issues like this? any ideas?

Cheers

[HSVREDSLED]

First port of call...ring Greg at Sureflo.

[Drizt]

Got any photo's of how it sits?

60mm clearance sounds extremely low...


Gday

Im just wondering if anyone else has any major ground clearance issues in regard to the exhaust systems on VE clubby/ss. My car is lowered with SSSL King springs in the back and SSL in the front. I have recently fitted a twin 3inch Sureflow system to the car and the ground clearance at the flanges and centre to the diff section is like 60-70mm! The car previously had an X Force 2.5 system on there and it barely ever touched anything even with a carload. Also my brothe in law has an SSV with the eact suspension setup as mine but with a twin 3 inch hurricane system and his system tucks up nice and high and it even sits above the original cross member in the middle!

Im happy with the stance and height of the car but it is painful to drive at the moment, and im either going to have to raise it or sell my month old exhaust for something that fits.

Anyone had any issues like this? any ideas?

Cheers

[TuffR8]

Yeah Ive spoken to Greg and hes been really helpful, but I think thats just how the system sits? I just wanted to see if anyone else had a 3inch sureflow system on their car and if they have any similar issue?

[TuffR8]

Got any photo's of how it sits?

60mm clearance sounds extremely low...

Ill take some pics tonight and try and get them up, It is very low and is the only problem, it otherwise sounds and looks great

[HSVREDSLED]

Yeah Ive spoken to Greg and hes been really helpful, but I think thats just how the system sits? I just wanted to see if anyone else had a 3inch sureflow system on their car and if they have any similar issue?

Cheers. Good luck with it. Unusual that one 3 inch system rides so much lower than another?

[Drizt]

I was looking at this exhaust today actually, in this thread -> http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?159921-VE-Dual-3-quot-Polished-Stainless-systems-Drone-Free-even-Sportswagon

So it is the flanges at the back of these two pic's ?

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[TuffR8]

Got any photo's of how it sits?

60mm clearance sounds extremely low...

Ok so hopefully these pics work. Thie first is the front flange.
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_exh_zps4ad73775.jpg?t=1357689138

The next is from the same position half way up from side of car looking back
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_sideexh_zpsc416b8d0.jpg?t=1357689143

And this is side shot of car. As you can see it certainly isnt the lowest thing out there and i like the height:
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_lhside_zpsd33a9836.jpg

[whitevzcalais]

Hey TuffR8,

I have similar issues with my s2 SSV.
Have ssl's all round, & a sureflo 3".
Clearance is an issue around the centre muffler.

I'm more attached to the exhaust and quality of the build, & not that precious about the stance, so it will be lifted to pedders lows.

[TuffR8]

Hey TuffR8,

I have similar issues with my s2 SSV.
Have ssl's all round, & a sureflo 3".
Clearance is an issue around the centre muffler.

I'm more attached to the exhaust and quality of the build, & not that precious about the stance, so it will be lifted to pedders lows.

What is the king equivalent of pedders lows? And do you still have the j pipes on yours?

[whitevzcalais]

Yep still have j pipes.
As I have an A6, it would resonate v.badly without the j pipes.

I don't see the j pipes as an issue for ground clearance though, a they near the rear wheels, so should move with the body, it is the centre section that scrapes for me.

I cannot find a king equivalent in their catalogue. What I am looking at though is a rim to guard height of 675mm. My king ask springs give me a rim to guard height of 650mm. (I think it has settled too, as it scrapes over speed humps that it never used too, even before the exhaust went in). There is a separate thread about sagging kings.

The 25mm lift should place the guard at about 1-1.5 fingers above the tyre, on my 20" rims, & hopefully save the underside of the car (& that wonderful exhaust)

[Drizt]

Although the pictures are very small, your right the ride hide looks pretty sweet. What is the ride quality like at that height ???

Just to confirm, which flange in those pics is hitting the ground over speed humps? Is it the flange in the first pic?

Out of curiosity, could you take a photo of the black plate I was referring to in this thread -> http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?162214-Purpose-of-the-black-plate-underneath-the-VE

Cheers


Ok so hopefully these pics work. Thie first is the front flange.
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_exh_zps4ad73775.jpg?t=1357689138

The next is from the same position half way up from side of car looking back
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_sideexh_zpsc416b8d0.jpg?t=1357689143

And this is side shot of car. As you can see it certainly isnt the lowest thing out there and i like the height:
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u605/TuffR8/bth_lhside_zpsd33a9836.jpg

[calais190]

Mine is VERY similar to this!

I have a full 3" KPM system with the 1 7/8 4>1 pacemakers that come with the kit. The passenger side flange where the cat meets the cat back is 70mm from the ground. My car is 100mm from the ground. I make it over the small flat speed humps easily, the higher ones I can make it over if the peak of the hump is under my driver side cat, the passenger side will scrape. I seriously turn around and go back if there's a speed hump that's too tall. KPM have told me that's just how it is...

I've even told a lot of these systems are the same - promise to sit up high but don't...

[TuffR8]

Although the pictures are very small, your right the ride hide looks pretty sweet. What is the ride quality like at that height ???

Just to confirm, which flange in those pics is hitting the ground over speed humps? Is it the flange in the first pic?

Out of curiosity, could you take a photo of the black plate I was referring to in this thread -> http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?162214-Purpose-of-the-black-plate-underneath-the-VE

Cheers

In the kit with the exhaust they give you another plate which isn't flat as the original. But even with this plate I had to put 4 nuts between the heat shield and body to space it out as the exhaust would otherwise be sitting on the plate and obviously rattling. So I ended up taking it off

It's more the first flange that scrapes on everything but the second one does a lot as well.

[TuffR8]

Mine is VERY similar to this!

I have a full 3" KPM system with the 1 7/8 4>1 pacemakers that come with the kit. The passenger side flange where the cat meets the cat back is 70mm from the ground. My car is 100mm from the ground. I make it over the small flat speed humps easily, the higher ones I can make it over if the peak of the hump is under my driver side cat, the passenger side will scrape. I seriously turn around and go back if there's a speed hump that's too tall. KPM have told me that's just how it is...

I've even told a lot of these systems are the same - promise to sit up high but don't...

Yeah to be honest I'm pretty disappointed in that aspect. I mean I bought the system because I didn't want drone and wanted a good quality system (which it is)but it looks as though basically that's just how it is and I'm just going to have to spend more money raising the car.

Ps I basically avoid every speed bump or driveway that has even the slightest incline as unless you do a slow sideways crawl over it, it sounds like you are leaving half the under carriage of the car on the top of the bump... And I'm in my 30s now so I don't really want to be sideways crawling over every little bump.

[Tre-Cool]

simple solution... lift the car back up. looks aint everything.

[Drizt]

In the kit with the exhaust they give you another plate which isn't flat as the original.
I'll have to get a price on that replacement black plate for my car. A pic would be very helpful :)


But even with this plate I had to put 4 nuts between the heat shield and body to space it out as the exhaust would otherwise be sitting on the plate and obviously rattling. So I ended up taking it off
Seems a lot of people take off the plate with an aftermarket exhaust. Did the instructions say you needed to add extra nuts to make the new plate fit? If not, I wonder why yours needs the nuts?


It's more the first flange that scrapes on everything but the second one does a lot as well.

It is a shame that it scrapes, :( Hopefully you can work out something that works for you.

[whitevzcalais]

I had the plate fitted with a couple of washers to space it.
Basically how it is.

I wonder????

Do you have extractors from sureflo also???

Greg did mention that the system sits tighter with sureflo extractors and cats.

Though in all reality SSLs and SSSLs don't belong on Australian suburban roads. Look great, but no ground clearance.

[lmoengnr]

Though in all reality SSLs and SSSLs don't belong on Australian suburban roads. Look great, but no ground clearance.

And a distinct lack of suspension travel for our wonderful goat tracks.

[TuffR8]

No i dont have the extractors from sureflo but i have the 4inch 100 cell ballistic cats and they are mated up to my standard hsv headers. That part of it sits up quite well.

To be honest i would say that it is just how it is and i am going to raise the car. Ill put a set of SL springs in and see how it goes. If I can get another 30mm of clearance from that I think I should be right, and going from a few threads ive looked at on here the SLs will sit a bit lower than the standard suspension anyway and shouldnt look too bad.

Cheers


I had the plate fitted with a couple of washers to space it.
Basically how it is.

I wonder????

Do you have extractors from sureflo also???

Greg did mention that the system sits tighter with sureflo extractors and cats.

Though in all reality SSLs and SSSLs don't belong on Australian suburban roads. Look great, but no ground clearance.

[JimmyXR6T04]

I have SSL front and rear in my wm Caprice with a sureflo 3" cat back. Mine is the same, and I freak out any time I see a moderate speed hump. I even had to take some pavers/wooden planks on holiday for the steep driveway! In saying that, I knew the exhaust hung low before lowering so its my fault in the end.

[whitevzcalais]

No i dont have the extractors from sureflo but i have the 4inch 100 cell ballistic cats and they are mated up to my standard hsv headers. That part of it sits up quite well.

To be honest i would say that it is just how it is and i am going to raise the car. Ill put a set of SL springs in and see how it goes. If I can get another 30mm of clearance from that I think I should be right, and going from a few threads ive looked at on here the SLs will sit a bit lower than the standard suspension anyway and shouldnt look too bad.

Cheers

I've just had it fitted with Pedders Lows, which have given me an additional 25mm over the King SSLs. Springs are a higher rating than kings (thicker wire diameter).

No problems with ground clearance now, it was the J pipes & new cross member on the sureflo that were taking a beating.

Handling not much different either. Will wait to get it in a good bit of familiar winding road to confirm.

Have I mentioned how good that exhaust sounds, yet nothing intrusive when driving behind.

[ssv402]

Gday

Im just wondering if anyone else has any major ground clearance issues in regard to the exhaust systems on VE clubby/ss. My car is lowered with SSSL King springs in the back and SSL in the front. I have recently fitted a twin 3inch Sureflow system to the car and the ground clearance at the flanges and centre to the diff section is like 60-70mm! The car previously had an X Force 2.5 system on there and it barely ever touched anything even with a carload. Also my brothe in law has an SSV with the eact suspension setup as mine but with a twin 3 inch hurricane system and his system tucks up nice and high and it even sits above the original cross member in the middle!

Im happy with the stance and height of the car but it is painful to drive at the moment, and im either going to have to raise it or sell my month old exhaust for something that fits.

Anyone had any issues like this? any ideas?

Cheers

Take it to someone who can custom modify your current exhaust...

[SSVHM2.5]

I have SSSL Kings in my SSV and a full HM system and the car touches nothing. Actually sits up higher then the HSV headers I removed.

[whitevzcalais]

I have SSSL Kings in my SSV and a full HM system and the car touches nothing. Actually sits up higher then the HSV headers I removed.

You haven't told us if your system is a 2.5" or 3"???

Besides, the sureflo 3" also has very large mufflers, big bore merge pipe, & J pipes to remove all hint of drone.

Having now done 2 tank fills of juice, I can confirm that there is no drone on an AFM A6!!!

Also changing to Pedders lows, with a 20mm height increase over king SSLs means no more scrapes.

Funny, it now also puts power to the ground a lot better than before....

[TuffR8]

You haven't told us if your system is a 2.5" or 3"???

Besides, the sureflo 3" also has very large mufflers, big bore merge pipe, & J pipes to remove all hint of drone.

Having now done 2 tank fills of juice, I can confirm that there is no drone on an AFM A6!!!

Also changing to Pedders lows, with a 20mm height increase over king SSLs means no more scrapes.

Funny, it now also puts power to the ground a lot better than before....

Hey mate I don't suppose you have a pic of your car with the pedders lows?

I'm thinking of either going SL kings or pedders lows

Cheers

[whitevzcalais]

Hey mate I don't suppose you have a pic of your car with the pedders lows?

I'm thinking of either going SL kings or pedders lows

Cheers

Will post one in the morning. The Pedders are a much higher rates spring than the kings, so even though it sits higher than before, the ride is still firm and tied down.

[whitevzcalais]

Will post one in the morning. The Pedders are a much higher rates spring than the kings, so even though it sits higher than before, the ride is still firm and tied down.

Sorry about the delay, having trouble posting the pic using Dropbox. Will PM you instead