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MR57SS
13-02-2013, 11:16 AM
just wondering why tapatalk has been restricted to only validated members? is there a reason for this?
Woodchukka
13-02-2013, 12:24 PM
I'll take a guess. It is a perk for the validated members. Best I can come up with at short notice.
aratic
13-02-2013, 12:47 PM
Possibly to cut down forum traffic? Most forum activity is probably via mobile devices and tapatalk now days.
empower
13-02-2013, 12:51 PM
I can access LS1 from tapatalk...
ok scratch that - COULD.
bit rude isn't it LS1?
Toddler78
13-02-2013, 02:33 PM
No different from the old days. There were certain perks for members that were Validated. Unfortunately apart from tapatalk there is no perks for the people that took the effort to get to know people.
Its not exactly hard to get validated either. Go out and meet two other members that will vouch for you and your done.
aratic
13-02-2013, 03:01 PM
I think getting to have an avatar is a big enough perk :stick:
CalaisBoy
13-02-2013, 05:59 PM
Its not exactly hard to get validated either. Go out and meet two other members that will vouch for you and your done.
Sorry mate I can't agree. It's actually quite difficult depending on time available, number of members in your area, work hours etc. It would be really great if there were other ways to be validated such as helpful posts over a period of time (as one simple suggestion) etc.
whitels1ss
13-02-2013, 07:03 PM
No different from the old days. There were certain perks for members that were Validated. Unfortunately apart from tapatalk there is no perks for the people that took the effort to get to know people.
Its not exactly hard to get validated either. Go out and meet two other members that will vouch for you and your done.
Exactly:goodjob:
XLR8 V8
13-02-2013, 07:05 PM
The Tapatalk feature makes using the forum on a mobile device easier, so it was added as an additional privilege/reward to Validated Users for the effort they went to in becoming Validated. The rule stating it was only for Validated Users has been in the FAQ since the feature was first added, but one of the forum updates shortly after turned off the restriction and it went unnoticed as Sidey was working on fixing other issues and updating the forum software. After fixing the Forum Garage feature Sidey went through the other addons and discovered this oversight and turned it back on.
nate698
13-02-2013, 07:13 PM
The Tapatalk feature makes using the forum on a mobile device easier, so it was added as an additional privilege/reward to Validated Users for the effort they went to in becoming Validated. The rule stating it was only for Validated Users has been in the FAQ since the feature was first added, but one of the forum updates shortly after turned off the restriction and it went unnoticed as Sidey was working on fixing other issues and updating the forum software. After fixing the Forum Garage feature Sidey went through the other addons and discovered this oversight and turned it back on.
Well would you kindly mind going back into the addons and turn it back on . I only have my mobile for access andiit's so much easier to use all forums with Tapatalk .
I really can't see the point in restricting people from being able to use the forum . Getting a registered email so I could access the forum to begin with was hard enough itself .
XLR8 V8
13-02-2013, 07:24 PM
Well would you kindly mind going back into the addons and turn it back on . I only have my mobile for access andiit's so much easier to use all forums with Tapatalk .
I really can't see the point in restricting people from being able to use the forum . Getting a registered email so I could access the forum to begin with was hard enough itself .
Sidey owns the forum, so if he wants it restricted as a bonus to Validated Users only, then that's the way it is. The Mods can't just change something because we feel like it. Sidey makes the rules, we just keep the forum on track with those rules.
Noone is being restricted from using the forum, as all users can still access it using a browser interface on their phones, it's just easier using Tapatalk which is why that was given as a reward to Validated Users.
Toddler78
13-02-2013, 08:10 PM
Well would you kindly mind going back into the addons and turn it back on . I only have my mobile for access andiit's so much easier to use all forums with Tapatalk .
I really can't see the point in restricting people from being able to use the forum . Getting a registered email so I could access the forum to begin with was hard enough itself .
This forum has been live since 2001/2002. Tapatalk has only been available for what the last 2 years? and I can tell you that there was alot more forum traffic before tapatalk then there is now.
Toddler78
13-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Sorry mate I can't agree. It's actually quite difficult depending on time available, number of members in your area, work hours etc. It would be really great if there were other ways to be validated such as helpful posts over a period of time (as one simple suggestion) etc.
Mate I can understand where you are coming from but that is a cop out. I know of one validate member that live on a island with only a hand full of people and I would be confident to say that the other people on the island werent validated LS1 members
kevin101
13-02-2013, 09:09 PM
No different from the old days. There were certain perks for members that were Validated. Unfortunately apart from tapatalk there is no perks for the people that took the effort to get to know people.
Its not exactly hard to get validated either. Go out and meet two other members that will vouch for you and your done.
I actually thought my phone or the the app was buggered! wasn't very happy at the time because I paid for the app to use for the forum but to now find out you have to be validated hrrm..
As said before it isn't actually that easy to get validated, you need two other validated users to vouch for you, I myself don't get a lot of time to get out and do things however I managed to get down to the First time drag event at heathcote drags a while back that was organised via the forums. Had a great time met a lot of forums members still ain't validated. It wasn't really the topic of the day " hey guys who's not validated let's write a list etc.."
I didn't mind about not being validated though would be really great! (if anyone reading remembers me from the drags :D black vx ss I owned previously), but it would also be really great to use tapatalk again.
white lie
13-02-2013, 09:52 PM
I've known a few forum members for a long time but only now taken the action to get validated, purely to use Tapatalk. Its a decent selling point, forums are an absolute pain to surf on a phone web browser! I'm not interested in any other 'perks'
MARRA
14-02-2013, 06:46 AM
Not sure how to really respond to this. Been a member of this forum since around 2001-02 (can't exactly remember when) and have purchased various items from sponsors over the years but never bothered getting "validated". Now I'm being told I go to the drags or where ever and ask complete stranger "excuse me sir but you don't happen to be a member of ls1.com.au - I need to get validated as I'm not cool enough when I'm not" or do I wear a bright red tshirt with "non validated ls1.com.au member can you help me out" not as simple to just go get validated!
Wonky
14-02-2013, 06:53 AM
Right hand side of every post tells when you joined MARRA - Oct 2002. Which of the many Richmonds are you from? NSW, Vic, SA, Qld, Tas?
XLR8 V8
14-02-2013, 07:46 AM
Not sure how to really respond to this. Been a member of this forum since around 2001-02 (can't exactly remember when) and have purchased various items from sponsors over the years but never bothered getting "validated". Now I'm being told I go to the drags or where ever and ask complete stranger "excuse me sir but you don't happen to be a member of ls1.com.au - I need to get validated as I'm not cool enough when I'm not" or do I wear a bright red tshirt with "non validated ls1.com.au member can you help me out" not as simple to just go get validated!
The whole point of validation is to encourage people to become more involved with those in the LS1 forum community by meeting other members in person. Anyone who doesn't live in a remote community that has been a member for over 10 years and hasn't had an opportunity to meet another member in person must be a shut in. :lol:
We get lots of nominations through from Sponsors vouching for their customers they have had good dealings with. Next time you deal with one of the sponsors just ask if they can throw a nomination your way. If not, you don't have to go to the drags, there are also car detailing clinics etc. happening quite regularly where forum members attend, and they're held by a sponsor anyway.
MARRA
14-02-2013, 08:09 AM
That's what piss's me off about this - because in the past 10 years I have never asked anyone to tell the Ls1 forum I'm cool the presumption is I'm some pasty white overweight bloke who never leaves the house....
The whole point of validation is to encourage people to become more involved with those in the LS1 forum community by meeting other members in person. Anyone who doesn't live in a remote community that has been a member for over 10 years and hasn't had an opportunity to meet another member in person must be a shut in. :lol:
We get lots of nominations through from Sponsors vouching for their customers they have had good dealings with. Next time you deal with one of the sponsors just ask if they can throw a nomination your way. If not, you don't have to go to the drags, there are also car detailing clinics etc. happening quite regularly where forum members attend, and they're held by a sponsor anyway.
I live in a very remote area and managed it without an issue... ;)
This is so typical of people's attitudes these days.
Rather than think "I'd really like to have the benefit of being able to use Tapatalk, I'd better take steps to get validated"
They whinge and moan about it in the hope that the rules will be changed to suit them.
This is so typical of people's attitudes these days.
Rather than think "I'd really like to have the benefit of being able to use Tapatalk, I'd better take steps to get validated"
They whinge and moan about it in the hope that the rules will be changed to suit them.
I came here being a SuperMod on another forum for 10+ years, whiles the "rules" took some getting used to as they're different to what I used to they're the rules I agreed to when I joined, I was happy to meet a couple of the guys in the real world to get validated even though there were no perks at the time, just felt a little more connected to the community.
AU forums tend to be a bit more confrontational and in your face by comparison so maybe a lot of people are a little uncomfortable about meeting IRL..
csv rulz
14-02-2013, 10:26 AM
I lived up in lakes entrance - over four hours away from melb and was able to make it along to a few cruises in melb. They were great fun, got to meet some great blokes and ended up getting validated as a result.
NickS
14-02-2013, 01:39 PM
It must be a few years since we've had a good "why do I have to meet people to get validated" thread!
I've been validated since 2004 and I've never used tapatalk ... to cause this much of a fuss it must be awesome! I'll have to check it out ... :D
whitels1ss
14-02-2013, 01:48 PM
I've never used tapatalk ... to cause this much of a fuss it must be awesome! I'll have to check it out ... :D
Yeah, I must do the same as well, I am happy using my phone on here but I might have to catch up with a local validated member
and get him to show me how it all works.:cheers:
It must be a few years since we've had a good "why do I have to meet people to get validated" thread!
I've been validated since 2004 and I've never used tapatalk ... to cause this much of a fuss it must be awesome! I'll have to check it out ... :D
Actually Nick it is pretty good if you ever access the forum from mobile devices.
Even better if you're a moderator..... You can make a person and every post they've ever made disappear in 4 taps of the screen.
AU forums tend to be a bit more confrontational and in your face by comparison so maybe a lot of people are a little uncomfortable about meeting IRL..
well ya got to be careful, after all the person on the other side might be goaty sporting hermit that lives in the hills, they make films about this shit :eeeeek: :wave:
csv rulz
14-02-2013, 02:40 PM
It must be a few years since we've had a good "why do I have to meet people to get validated" thread!
I've been validated since 2004 and I've never used tapatalk ... to cause this much of a fuss it must be awesome! I'll have to check it out ... :D
Nick you gotta get on it. Its amazing, so much easier than using your browser on your phone.
I actually prefer tapatalk on my phone to the browser on a computer.
NickS
14-02-2013, 02:42 PM
Actually Nick it is pretty good if you ever access the forum from mobile devices.
Nick you gotta get on it. Its amazing, so much easier than using your browser on your phone.
I actually prefer tapatalk on my phone to the browser on a computer.
I access the forum all the time on my iPad ... I've just never bothered trying tapatalk as I didn't find anything wrong with using Safari.
Sounds like it's worth a try though, might download and give it a go tonight! Thanks boys ... :cheers:
SimonNQ
14-02-2013, 03:33 PM
Won't this cause people to get validated simply because they want to use Tapatalk, sort of defeating the purpose of getting validated? Wouldn't a better method be their rep power? I have never bothered as I work very long hours and usually access the forum during the day from my phone whilst riding the porcelain pony !!!
I can safely say that I have helped many other members as well as being helped myself. However I now feel like a second class citizen. It doesn't bother me, but it is a bit of a slap in the face.
I think a lot of people forget that a forum is not a public entity, it is simply owned by an individual and he has the right to do what ever he wants!
CalaisBoy
14-02-2013, 04:12 PM
Mate I can understand where you are coming from but that is a cop out.
Nope. Just a fact that its harder for some to get validated because of all sorts of reasons to do with location, work and other commitments. No biggy - just a simple suggestion for a bit of improved opportunity for good interaction with the forum.
well ya got to be careful, after all the person on the other side might be goaty sporting hermit that lives in the hills, they make films about this shit :eeeeek: :wave:
I resemble that remark ;)
XLR8 V8
14-02-2013, 07:00 PM
Won't this cause people to get validated simply because they want to use Tapatalk, sort of defeating the purpose of getting validated? Wouldn't a better method be their rep power?
If the draw of being able to use Tapatalk is enough to make a member get more involved in the forum community to become Validated, then it has served its intended purpose. If they just meet people to get Validated and then become a shut-in again, then there's not a lot we can do about that, but at least we can say we tried to get them more involved. Rep power on the forum is just an online measure of various stats that doesn't really mean anything in the real world. Getting out there and meeting people in the real world is a much better measure of who they are. Never know, you might end up meeting some people that become great mates ... I know I did.
I can safely say that I have helped many other members as well as being helped myself.
If that's the case then just send the people you've helped or have helped you a PM and see if they can send in a nomination for you (if they are Validated already). Doesn't hurt to ask, and as long as you weren't a complete tool most members will oblige with a nom.
white lie
14-02-2013, 07:29 PM
In all fairness I don't think this forum is really anything like a decent car club is and that seems like what being validated is all about. There is not a huge amount of social activities, cruises, dyno days, sound offs, etc to really get out and meet other members. Yes, you occasionally get the chance if you've been a member for a fair amount of time but I also think that if you've done your time then you should still get the same treatment. I mean I sure as hell don't go around talking to random people at the drags with this forum being the main talking point! And as I said in my post earlier, if this is the rule then so be it but I can also see where all the non-validated people are coming from.
SimonNQ
14-02-2013, 07:59 PM
Been there and done that, I was very involved with the Holden LS1 club in Townsville, we had a lot of fun and went on some great cruises, especially the Burdekin Dam, was an awesome day. However I found that there were a lot of members that were only interested in doing burnouts etc... I am not interested in getting back into that scene at all especially with police targeting groups of car enthusiasts. If that means I remain a non-validated member then that's fine, I have no intentions of whoring myself out to people just so I can use tapaTalk if I help people it's because I want to, not to gain anything in return. For me tapatalk is only a convenience anyway :)
SimonNQ
14-02-2013, 08:35 PM
I used to love going to the drags, but ours has been closed down :(, new housing estate :soap:.
itsagixa
14-02-2013, 08:56 PM
I was in the same boat, bought tapatalk to use on LS1.com.au and now its been taken away.
How about i post my business card and you call my GM and ask if i really exist?
you should inform tapatalk that your forum is only for validated people so they can at least put a warning up....poor form in my book,
ill tell you this, i wont be coming on here as often as i do, and i am sure there are a lot of other non superusers on here with a post count of <500 who will not be browsing the site as frequently.
What you have effectively done is reduce the amount of potential customers for the paying sponsors of this site....starve their children for the sake of a silly "feature being on/off"
kevin101
14-02-2013, 09:10 PM
I was in the same boat, bought tapatalk to use on LS1.com.au and now its been taken away.
How about i post my business card and you call my GM and ask if i really exist?
you should inform tapatalk that your forum is only for validated people so they can at least put a warning up....poor form in my book,
ill tell you this, i wont be coming on here as often as i do, and i am sure there are a lot of other non superusers on here with a post count of <500 who will not be browsing the site as frequently.
What you have effectively done is reduce the amount of potential customers for the paying sponsors of this site....starve their children for the sake of a silly "feature being on/off"
Put it this way, it sucks for those like myself that bought tapatalk to use with the forum, but you can't really do much about it. I want to be validated however I honestly don't see it happening any time soon, current circumstances just won't allow for it. If you want to use it with the ls1 forum you have to become a validated member you have to play by the forum rules.. (unless this rule changes :hide: )
itsagixa
14-02-2013, 09:19 PM
Hey if its the rules, its the rules...
Just a decision that needs to be flagged for the appropriate person who is in a position to make a change.
Can one of the mods let the owner now, if he reads the topic and still sticks by his decision then so be it..
Woodchukka
14-02-2013, 11:18 PM
:popcorn:All this seems a little out of proportion to how big ths issue really is to me.:popcorn:
Bit pissed my self Been on the forum for 5 years I shouldn't have beg to be validated I looked at advertising it on the forum it just seemed way to hard to get any questions answered etc so I went in another direction . The mods should just validate u after a period of time and posts etc and based on u don't stirring up trouble etc
csv rulz
15-02-2013, 06:08 AM
Bit pissed my self Been on the forum for 5 years I shouldn't have beg to be validated I looked at advertising it on the forum it just seemed way to hard to get any questions answered etc so I went in another direction . The mods should just validate u after a period of time and posts etc and based on u don't stirring up trouble etc
How can you be pissed about it when it was stipulated in the rules when you first signed up.
It encourages people to join in on cruises and events, to meet new people who all share a common interest.
XLR8 V8
15-02-2013, 06:47 AM
I have no intentions of whoring myself out to people just so I can use tapaTalk if I help people it's because I want to, not to gain anything in return.
If people think you're whoring yourself out just because you send them a PM seeing if they'll throw a nomination your way, you might need to work on your wording. Maybe start with "Hey mate" instead of "Hey big boy"? :lol: :stick:
What you have effectively done is reduce the amount of potential customers for the paying sponsors of this site....starve their children for the sake of a silly "feature being on/off"
Starving children? .... really? :eek:
Qh2sWSVRrmo
How about i post my business card and you call my GM and ask if i really exist?
Validation has little to do with verifying Who you are. Validation is about someone vouching that you are a decent person who will be an asset to the forum community.
People who nominate someone else for validation risk losing their validation if the person they've nominated turns out to be a tool, so for the most part users will only nominate people they have met a couple of times.
Sidewindr
20-02-2013, 01:52 PM
Just to clarify, Tapatalk is only available to Validated users due to the fact that the banners etc. are not displayed in Tapatalk and as a result it has an impact on banner impressions and in turn financial support to the operation of the forums. There is not a traffic or bandwidth issue, it is purely a matter of rewarding those that get involved in the forum and community whilst striving to make the forums available to everyone for free.
Sidewindr
09-03-2014, 06:07 AM
Update to this situation .. I have now made TapaTalk open and available to all users and guests from this time onward.
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