VF Commodore/HSV Owner's Problems & Complaints

[cfour]

VF SSV Redline here.
Hit 1300km and I've noticed a rattle in the sunroof, and a slight shifting of the drivers seat chair every now and then when cornering.
Biggest worry is the iPhone integration, trying to change songs using the toggle on the steering wheel is horrendous. Sometimes it works, other times it jumps to random songs in the playlist.
Anyone got that issue sorted?

I have the rattle in the Sunroof as well on my Redline, so far haven't noticed the seat issue. The toggle on the steering wheel is working fine for my IP5 with IOS 7.x

[ennzed]

The toggle on the steering wheel is working fine for my IP5 with IOS 7.x

It could and most likely is an issue with my iPhone 4 then. iOS 7 is extremely slow compared to 6.

[Aus8]

Perhaps its just a setting as I'm sure it is not meant to do this. Whenever I plug my phone in to the usb slot to charge it (iPhone) the car radio stops and plays music off the iPhone. I don't want it to auto-play my music i just want to charge it. Probably a setting on the phone but cant for the life of me find it.

[bouka]

Yes I know but it seems much harder to get a setting that works.
Intuitively, turning the knob towards the finer/smaller section should make it more sensitive (less delay on intermittent) but it seems to do the opposite.
With my E2 Senator, it was perfect all the time just left alone once a sensitivity setting was settled on that I liked.


Just seems a bit all over the place to me, maybe it is "too smart" and is more sophisticated than the old system. I noticed when the sky got darker all of a sudden that made them want to go faster even though the rainfall didn't change. Strange.

Same issue and my senator was much better. Glad to read this as I thought it was medication related. Lol

[DanielSS-V]

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[Alex(AUS)]

Same issue and my senator was much better. Glad to read this as I thought it was medication related. Lol

How has the remainder of the VF experience been George? I hope the wiper thing is fixed ... I really like the VE solution ... better than the VW one ...

Alex

[Krizto]

Put the VF SS-V in for the 3,000kms service yesterday at Barloworld Holden and pretty happy with the service I received.

The issue with the drivers seat moving a tad side to side was noted and parts have been ordered to rectify which is great. The issues with the AC was noted but nothing can be done at this stage as I have the latest software, the tech spent a good 20mins with me in the car with temp probe, etc. and he explained how the unit works and the air coming from my front centre vents was between 26c and 38c when the unit was set to 27c, this is apparently normal to maintain the correct cabin temperature however he's putting in a PIR to Holden for investigation none the less. My issue about the rough idle is normal for a V8 and have had friends with similar cars tell me mine is actually pretty good, again the tech said its a bigger engine than my VE SV6 with more moving parts going a greater distance in the block so a little shake is to be expected.

Being anal I asked they do an oil change while the car was there and is feels to run much smoother and quieter ... $138 well spent I think!

All in all a happy camper!

CJ

[Vulture]

Perhaps its just a setting as I'm sure it is not meant to do this. Whenever I plug my phone in to the usb slot to charge it (iPhone) the car radio stops and plays music off the iPhone. I don't want it to auto-play my music i just want to charge it. Probably a setting on the phone but cant for the life of me find it.

I think the infotainment unit in these cars is the worst I've ever experienced by a long way. Yes it has the feature list but the implementation is haphazard, not intuitive and flakey at times. With so many examples of good user interfaces these days I don't know why it has to be so crappy. Most of the issues I have are with the way in which the EDI interacts with the rest of the system.

[GTS LSA]

To be totally honest, I am 100% happy with the whole thing... But then I buy for performance and not gadgets, so as long as the gadgets do what they are supposed to I am cool...
Love the Engine, Love the Gearbox, Love the Brakes, Love the handling and feel of the car, Love the interior and the features.. cant wait to use the EDI at Wakefield

Haven't had any of the issues others have mentioned (touch wood)

Only things I would change are
1/ Move the Brake pedal further left so can comfortably left foot brake if wanted (not a deal breaker)
2/ Maybe have the side supports of the seat adjustable, as I think they are set for XL and I am more a L :) and tend to move around a bit under load
3/ I think the exhaust looks great from behind and at a distance, but very cheap and nasty when you realize the outlets are fake (again I was aware & not a deal breaker)

Just me though

[Vulture]

To be totally honest, I am 100% happy with the whole thing... But then I buy for performance and not gadgets, so as long as the gadgets do what they are supposed to I am cool...


I think we shouldn't excuse substandard things just because the performance is excellent.

[GTS LSA]

I think we shouldn't excuse substandard things just because the performance is excellent.

Totally agree with you, just giving my feedback on my experience.. Remember my last HSV was Z series GTO and my most recent car was and EVO X MR, the GTS gadgets are a massive leap forward for me, so I find it really good... But performance is still my number 1...

it would be a step back from and AMG or other more Techy car, but I assume a leap forward from VE

[Ausmartin1]

How do you tell if they are the wrong way around?

West Coast Customs - Stereo Polarity Check

You tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0DVk1IR4eI

Using battery only for a moment, AA or D cell @ 1.5V also works but smaller movement.
If positive and negative is correct all the way = speaker pushes OUT, if it sucks IN = oops Wiring is crossed over


Cheers,
Martin

[Twitch]

I am up to 4000k now. I have had the brake light in the rear window drop down on one side that they pushed back into place.
One word of caution is if you get your tyres changed tell the try fitter to be carefull with the black rims. Mine had a slow leak at the service and when I got the car back the rims were marked as per the photo. The dealer organised for it to be fixed so all good now :)
https://db.tt/x25QtG9k

[vyls1wa]

Well well well.

As I've mentioned previously and the paint issue I have with the calais and it falling on deaf ears at the dealer I had a paint correction done on the car at a cost to of 500. To my amazement the car looked outstanding. But even the detailer agreed that it's been resprayed. And that there's dirt in the paint. After this I spoke to principal dealer and he looked through the whole history to find if there was some delay somewhere that the have resprayed the panels.

I left it at that, but a service steering message came up so the Mrs took it into today, my wife told them again about it to which the girl argued that it could of been resprayed, after them ringing up Holden themselves they were told to fix it regardless because first lot of vf had paint issue.

So they are repaying me 500 for the paint correction, given us a hirer car at there cost and they want to repay the car.

To also add to the paint defect list. Paint varied but as much as 30 microns single panels to as low as 95.

So anyone else noticed any paint defects.

[VFast]

I am up to 4000k now. I have had the brake light in the rear window drop down on one side that they pushed back into place.
One word of caution is if you get your tyres changed tell the try fitter to be carefull with the black rims. Mine had a slow leak at the service and when I got the car back the rims were marked as per the photo. The dealer organised for it to be fixed so all good now :)
https://db.tt/x25QtG9k
Good old fashioned "dont give a toss about the customers car" attitude... Disapointing you had to have it happen in the first place but glad the dealer came to the party - some arent always so lucky.

[Smashfist]

To also add to the paint defect list. Paint varied but as much as 30 microns single panels to as low as 95.

That's getting a little picky. Does the paint cover the panel and look uniform? If so, that's all you can really expect out of a factory job. Getting grumpy over a thickness variation is getting a little anal.

Don't get me wrong, if there's shit in the paint or it looks off, by all means it should be fixed.

[vyls1wa]

Yeh, front right wing has, I suppose like bubbles with the dirt underneath. The front wing is my issue, the thickness and the like doesn't phase me, just a point. I didn't ask for a Respray, detailer said it need to be de-nibed ? Not resprayed, will see when I get home

[VFast]

Well well well.

As I've mentioned previously and the paint issue I have with the calais and it falling on deaf ears at the dealer I had a paint correction done on the car at a cost to of 500. To my amazement the car looked outstanding. But even the detailer agreed that it's been resprayed. And that there's dirt in the paint. After this I spoke to principal dealer and he looked through the whole history to find if there was some delay somewhere that the have resprayed the panels.

I left it at that, but a service steering message came up so the Mrs took it into today, my wife told them again about it to which the girl argued that it could of been resprayed, after them ringing up Holden themselves they were told to fix it regardless because first lot of vf had paint issue.

So they are repaying me 500 for the paint correction, given us a hirer car at there cost and they want to repay the car.

To also add to the paint defect list. Paint varied but as much as 30 microns single panels to as low as 95.

So anyone else noticed any paint defects.
Shit outcome with a brand new vehicle but happy that they have come to the party in the end. Are you going to get it sprayed or are you happy enough with it as is?

They are never quite the same after they have been disassembled and painted. Thats the gamble - if it will be any better than it is right now???

The only issue with my VF SSV is a round ghost mark on the top of the bootlid - it is not severe enough to warrant a repair at this stage. You wouldnt be able to see it unless you knew it was there or if you are as particular as I am. Other than that i am extremely happy with the paint finish overall.

[vyls1wa]

My biggest issue was the clear over spray and the paint feeling like sand paper, when I took it back to them they clay blocked it but in doing so the scratched the body work. Giving up on them I got the paint correction to remove the over spray and fix the scratches, it wasn't until he looked at it and showed me all the dirt in the paint. They offered the Respray, I didn't ask for it, the Mrs was early pointing it out because the manager asked to be shown. But I do agree with you that the car won't be the same, when I fly home I'm going to go see the workshop and get a full detailed list of options, that wing needs a spray I agree, they won't to do a full Respray because of the thickness issue and how thing the paint it up on the roof with the plastic seal thing runs down each side.

It's one of those thing that when you walk past it you'd never notice, but when someone has pointed the faults out its hard to look past it.

[VYBerlinaV8]

I find it pretty amazing that in 2013 major manufacturers still can't get the paint right. It comes down to cost, obviously, but at what cost to the brand?

[desh]

HSV Problems

Temperature

1 Car was showing outside 15 degrees (over long period of time), in and around city (Melbourne). Temp was obviously much warmer, BOM indicated 24.

A second occurrence was Monday 18th. Drove car for about 15 minutes and temp was shown as 17. Check BOM, it was over 22. After that 15 mins, within a 5 min period it went in steps to 23.

2 Set interior temp at 21. No heating (on a cold day). Adjust temp up and about 24-26 it started to provide warmth (hot air!). THIS HAPPENS OFTEN.

Radio (no sound)

3 On accessories, radio on. Start car, radio (or iPod) comes on but no sound. Have to turn radio off/on to get sound.

Instrument light control

4 Dash light adjustment (toggle switch) not working?

External light control (daytime running lamps)

5 Cannot turn off using “turn to off position” as per manual.

Losing NAV POI adjustments

6 I have them on HIDE ALL. However, when I start the car they appear. When I check, they are set to NONE. Even though it is set, I touch “Hide all” again and they disappear (as they should)… I have to do this every time I start the car. Even though “Hide all” is selected, it loses this setting when the car is turned off.

Wiper does a sweep for no reason

7 A few times the wiper has done a single sweep for no reason (no rain, no water…). Last Sunday, when I pressed the switch to turn on the air cond, the wiper did a sweep as I touched the button.

Leak from driver’s external mirror

8 This problem has already been looked at. There is a leak from the driver’s external mirror that is not just water – it seems to be something mixed in with it. Service said that this was “normal”. I do not agree! Service have had the mirror apart. It is still occurring

IPOD artists (not all listed)

9 iPod. When I use the menu, and select “artists”, MOST of the artists do not appear. When I select a playlist, I can see the songs by those missing artists.

NIGGLES !!

10 When wearing sunglasses, the HUD is dimmed (even on full) to the point of being unable to read it. Turn the sunglasses on the side, all is well. Obviously polarization, but why was the HUD designed such that common sunglasses have such a negative affect?

11 NAV colour. I am red/green colour blind. The colours used on the NAV screen (HSV version) is really bad for me. The current location pointer just blends into the map – I have to stare for some time before I can see it – not good when trying to drive a car. I have already approached Holden on this, they are not interested.

12 iPod connection sticks out. Only time before I place something in there and (eventually) break the lead! Crap design.

For a new car, a HSV ($'s) this is really bad. I am actually yearning for the FPV GT I traded in. So simple, a driver's car.

[jaykay]

Replacement drivers seat base ordered by the dealership on 9 September....it is now 26 November and still no advice to when the dealership will see it to change mine over..... I do not think this is acceptable ??

[offshore]

Ive had two problems. Steering lock failure warning came on once. And ive had the Navigation freeze up twice and had to reset the radio. Im at 3700kms or so

[desh]

.... and (to add to my list above)....

LOW Fuel warning takes over centre screen on Dash.

10 When starting the car, the “Fuel Level Low” warning was coming on. Simple to cancel, just a twist on the stalk (menu). Watching my distance to empty, it got down to just over 20k. Another “Fuel Level Low” came on....

Problem? IT COULD NOT BE CANCELLED. Tried all sorts of switches, restarting car. I could no longer monitor the amount of fuel left (or anything else in this panel). It only cleared when I put fuel in the car.


** With all the electronic problems of this car (problems which are common), I now double my sentiment above "For a new car, a HSV ($'s) this is really bad. I am actually yearning for the FPV GT I traded in. So simple, a driver's car"

[CLUBRED]

I don't think its unacceptable when fuel is that low, my VE does it to, I'm not so sure its a good thing to run fuel that low anyways.

[mjrandom]

On my E1 and E2 (from memory) once the low fuel light came on there was no way of checking the km left or fuel left. I think that happened with 50 to go. At least with the GenF it lets you see both until you get to the magic 20km and then you get the fixed screen. The other thing is that it is reasonably accurate. At 50km left a week or so ago I drove into the city and back and fuelled up just before I got home. That would have been a trip of 35km thereabouts to the fuel station so the last 5km was on the VF low warning. I reckon it is an improvement. What annoys me is that you cancel the first warning on the dash but have to separately cancel the warning on the centre screen.

[Snappa]

VF SSV-Redline,

Just on 2100km and have had these items:



Sunroof slide cover knocks and rattles if not pushed al the way forward (closed)
Drivers seat knocks/moves - same as others
Auto Shifter came out (held in by the leather boot), had to slam it back in, will get this checked
Steering wheel has a tendency of squeaking when turned!
IPhone Bluetooth pair being lost (has happened twice!)


Also a good one for others with an iPhone if it hasn't been mentioned. After pair with the MyLink, go back into your Bluetooth, select MyLink, and enable the 'Show Notifications' option. This is disabled by default?? This then allows all your SMS's to be displayed on MyLink and allow you to listen to them while driving!
Hopefully be addressed at 3000km..

[XUV]

.... and (to add to my list above)....

LOW Fuel warning takes over centre screen on Dash.

10 When starting the car, the “Fuel Level Low” warning was coming on. Simple to cancel, just a twist on the stalk (menu). Watching my distance to empty, it got down to just over 20k. Another “Fuel Level Low” came on....

Problem? IT COULD NOT BE CANCELLED. Tried all sorts of switches, restarting car. I could no longer monitor the amount of fuel left (or anything else in this panel). It only cleared when I put fuel in the car.



That's what happens when you dumb the populous down, you have to hold their hand and give them fair warning, or they'll sue for running outa of fuel in a bad part of town.

[Vulture]

HSV Problems

Wiper does a sweep for no reason

7 A few times the wiper has done a single sweep for no reason (no rain, no water…). Last Sunday, when I pressed the switch to turn on the air cond, the wiper did a sweep as I touched the button.


This is just the automatic wiper system thinking that there is rain when your windscreen is a bit dirty and the light changes. Had this occasionally also.

[MARRA]

I don't think its unacceptable when fuel is that low, my VE does it to, I'm not so sure its a good thing to run fuel that low anyways.
Agree - When the fuel light comes on is time to refuel, anyone trusts the DTE after that should not complain when they run out of fuel at an intersection.

[Vfzarb]

I've had to escalate my issues to holden customer service after the dealership after various attempts has failed to sort out my issues.

Have 8000 on the clock and issues as follows in order of priority.

- Climate Control Still not working correctly. either temp is out of wack at the front or blowing out hot air out of the back etc.
- Radio has bad reception issues. constant static / cracks / pops in the background when driving around. (i cant stand it, its that bad.)
- Rear drivers side passenger seatbelt assembly rattles like a mofo when somebody is sitting in the seat and has the seat belt on.
- Have yet to report this, but as other have started to mention it i will next time i speak to Holden, My drivers side seat rattles on one side.
- Have yet to report this, but windscreen wiper randomly goes off. (happened even after i had the car completely clean and was in garage)

And sometimes when driving i think i hear a noise coming from the steering wheel, however it may just be noise bouncing from the drivers seat as previously mentioned so wont report that until i sort everything else out!.

[Krizto]

I just got a call from Barloworld Holden as I reports movement issues at the 3,000km service on (13-Nov) and the replacement seat fastener clip has arrived and will be installed on Wednesday.

Apparently this is a revised clip to stop and forward/ backwards and sideways movement ... a clip sounds a lot less than your replacement base, will keep you posted if it resolves the issue!

CJ


Replacement drivers seat base ordered by the dealership on 9 September....it is now 26 November and still no advice to when the dealership will see it to change mine over..... I do not think this is acceptable ??

[CLUBRED]

I'd say it's probable when jkgmh had his issue raised and now they've figured out the actual problem.

[Twitch]

Has anyone had squeaking breaks on Redline ?
Seems to come and go a little bit. Wasn't happening when I got the 3k service so didn't report it but starting to be annoying.

[dgp]

Has anyone had squeaking breaks on Redline ?
Seems to come and go a little bit. Wasn't happening when I got the 3k service so didn't report it but starting to be annoying.

Stand on the brakes HARD a few times and it will go away.

[cfour]

anyone noticed door rattle when the window is down, have it on both my front driver and passenger. This occurs when closing either door.

[vyls1wa]

anyone noticed door rattle when the window is down, have it on both my front driver and passenger. This occurs when closing either door.

Yup, it's the glass rattling inside the door

[VFast]

anyone noticed door rattle when the window is down, have it on both my front driver and passenger. This occurs when closing either door.
Nope but got a f**king annoying dull clunk from somewhere in the rear end since having the lowered springs installed. The workshop has been over all of the rear suspension etc that they have touched - and what they didnt touch - twice now without success. The thing is that the car was silent with the std springs so all i can think is that the additional ride firmness is causing the issue.

Not interested in swapping back to std springs but want to find out what the damn noise is. Mainly occurs at lower speeds when going over some rough road or speed humps etc.

Anyone else got this issue?

[desh]

I don't think its unacceptable when fuel is that low, my VE does it to, I'm not so sure its a good thing to run fuel that low anyways.



Agree - When the fuel light comes on is time to refuel, anyone trusts the DTE after that should not complain when they run out of fuel at an intersection.

Also agree, but there were circumstances (and what I hope was a VERY clean tank this low in vehicle life (was 600k)), and I would never complain if I was that stupid.

But yes, I do think it unacceptable that the fuel warning takes over from the k’s-to-go when I make the decision.


On my E1 and E2 (from memory) once the low fuel light came on there was no way of checking the km left or fuel left. I think that happened with 50 to go. At least with the GenF it lets you see both until you get to the magic 20km and then you get the fixed screen...

I just checked the manual, and the behaviour is as stated. Sorry, but stupid!!!


That's what happens when you dumb the populous down, you have to hold their hand and give them fair warning, or they'll sue for running outa of fuel in a bad part of town.

Ooooh, too true :-(

[desh]

This is just the automatic wiper system thinking that there is rain when your windscreen is a bit dirty and the light changes. Had this occasionally also.

The car was very clean, very sunny (Mleb after all:-) and in the city driving slowly. I think the co-incidence of it happening exactly as I turned on the air-cond....

[mjrandom]

The car was very clean, very sunny (Mleb after all:-) and in the city driving slowly. I think the co-incidence of it happening exactly as I turned on the air-cond....

Ahhh that explains it! You are in Melbourne so it was expecting rain!

[vfblack]

Has anyone had squeaking breaks on Redline ?
Seems to come and go a little bit. Wasn't happening when I got the 3k service so didn't report it but starting to be annoying.

exactly the same happens to me

[XUV]

Nope but got a f**king annoying dull clunk from somewhere in the rear end since having the lowered springs installed. The workshop has been over all of the rear suspension etc that they have touched - and what they didnt touch - twice now without success. The thing is that the car was silent with the std springs so all i can think is that the additional ride firmness is causing the issue.

Not interested in swapping back to std springs but want to find out what the damn noise is. Mainly occurs at lower speeds when going over some rough road or speed humps etc.

Anyone else got this issue?
change to rubber bushes.

[BENN0]

With the spring clunks:
Coil clash. If you remember, the old VE std springs had thick plastic wrap on some of the coils. This was to prevent the noise when the coils hit over bumps. Big bumps dont cause the noise. Its when going over light small bumps that the coils hit and make the thump. Big bumps just compress the spring together. (Sounds strange, but when going over big bumps the spring compresses and even though there is contact, the noise is subdued due to the coils staying in contact. Small bumps, the coils bang together. The noise reverberates when the coils are apart which is why its louder than going over big bumps)

Which springs are you using?

[Deco28]

I've got one complaint with my Calais, the cars colour Regal Peacock should be renamed to anti-clean....

Otherwise, my HVAC isn't perfect, but acceptable, I notice occasionally the cold air drops out for a few seconds.

[PreferRX]

Hey all,

I recently had an issue with my park assist, it all failed, the actual parking sensors and also the automated parking features would not work at all. it kept showing a spanner on the screen telling me to service park assist. Holden had to keep the car for 2 days and replace a module, but was all warranty work.

The only other complaint i had was i couldnt get the ESP to turn off? but figured that one out now so no complaints.

[Wonky]

With the spring clunks:
Coil clash. If you remember, the old VE std springs had thick plastic wrap on some of the coils. This was to prevent the noise when the coils hit over bumps. Big bumps dont cause the noise. Its when going over light small bumps that the coils hit and make the thump. Big bumps just compress the spring together. (Sounds strange, but when going over big bumps the spring compresses and even though there is contact, the noise is subdued due to the coils staying in contact. Small bumps, the coils bang together. The noise reverberates when the coils are apart which is why its louder than going over big bumps)

+1 :goodjob:

Yep! Was about to say the same, though don't know if the VF springs are the same. Some people even found that cutting an inch or two off the spring wrap also solved the problem because at the original length it was catching/binding. The other issue was sometimes the springs weren't seated correctly, though a suspension place shouldn't make that error.

[DanielSS-V]

Yes its really cheap sounding. I was surprised this got past Holdens testing, as its not a good sound at all.

[cfour]

Yup, it's the glass rattling inside the door

I had to get some parts today from a holden dealer and decided to test a few of the display cars for the door rattle... wouldn't you know it 3 tested and all 3 had the rattle.

[Wonky]

My VE has always rattled when the door is shut with the window not fully up - just figured it was par for the course.........

[Goggles]

My VE has always rattled when the door is shut with the window not fully up - just figured it was par for the course.........

+1. Both my VE and VF have done this

[VFast]

With the spring clunks:
Coil clash. If you remember, the old VE std springs had thick plastic wrap on some of the coils. This was to prevent the noise when the coils hit over bumps. Big bumps dont cause the noise. Its when going over light small bumps that the coils hit and make the thump. Big bumps just compress the spring together. (Sounds strange, but when going over big bumps the spring compresses and even though there is contact, the noise is subdued due to the coils staying in contact. Small bumps, the coils bang together. The noise reverberates when the coils are apart which is why its louder than going over big bumps)

Which springs are you using?
Thanks for the reply Benno.

Springs are Lovells - part number actually has 'R&D' in front of it - so presumably early release parts.

If the springs are clashing would you see any witness marks on the coils? Car has only done a few hundred kms between springs being fitted and last visit so maybe too soon to see any marks - I would have presumed they would have checked this!?

[desh]

I've got one complaint with my Calais, the cars colour Regal Peacock should be renamed to anti-clean....
Otherwise, my HVAC isn't perfect, but acceptable, I notice occasionally the cold air drops out for a few seconds.

As a fellow "Regal Peacock", undstand, but have had a lot of black cars, and they are worse!!!

HVAC on mine is <censored>. I understand a (another!!!) software update IS due in the next week, ask your service guys (mine are hanging on getting it to get me and all my problems off their back).

[BENN0]

Thanks for the reply Benno.

Springs are Lovells - part number actually has 'R&D' in front of it - so presumably early release parts.

If the springs are clashing would you see any witness marks on the coils? Car has only done a few hundred kms between springs being fitted and last visit so maybe too soon to see any marks - I would have presumed they would have checked this!?

I doubt you will see witness marks on the spring. If you still have your old springs, try and place the coil wrap off it on the coils that look the closest together at ride height. I dont know what the lovell springs look like, but im assuming they are variable rate?

[VFast]

I doubt you will see witness marks on the spring. If you still have your old springs, try and place the coil wrap off it on the coils that look the closest together at ride height. I dont know what the lovell springs look like, but im assuming they are variable rate?
I spoke to WA Suspensions today and told them my research has led me to believe that it is indeed spring bind/coil clash. They are getting a pair of King Springs in tomorrow and I will get them fitted on Friday.

Not sure if they are variable rate or not and I dont recall seeing any wrap on the std springs.

Fingers crossed the new springs solve the problem and maintain the same ride height. The more i thought about it the more it made sense that the spring change was at fault - if the car clunks now it surely would have been clunking with the std springs albeit maybe less often due to the softer spring rate. The only change was the springs so chances are the noise is due to them.

[BENN0]

What part number King springs? Anything lower than SL and you will get some noise. Kings are variable and have some thin coil wrap on them.
If the car is slammed then your coil clash might go away :) Offending coils will be in constant contact with those around it and there wont be the instance of coils banging together and then apart.
I had SSL in a previous VE and there was occasional noise. No massive clunks etc. I found it fine to live with.

[Krizto]

Just picked up the car from Holden and so far so good, attached is a copy of the Service Sheet for anyone interested.

Basically they replaced GM13584324 - RETAINER-F/SEAT CUSH LATL

Seat base noise as per techline 2366-1310 whatever that means?

2815


I just got a call from Barloworld Holden as I reports movement issues at the 3,000km service on (13-Nov) and the replacement seat fastener clip has arrived and will be installed on Wednesday.

Apparently this is a revised clip to stop and forward/ backwards and sideways movement ... a clip sounds a lot less than your replacement base, will keep you posted if it resolves the issue!

CJ

[jaykay]

Just picked up the car from Holden and so far so good, attached is a copy of the Service Sheet for anyone interested.

Basically they replaced GM13584324 - RETAINER-F/SEAT CUSH LATL

Seat base noise as per techline 2366-1310 whatever that means?

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I have been told this is the part that is on order for my drivers seat movement issue.....

The part that is on order for your car is GM13582455 FRAME ASM-F/SEAT C

I have NFI if that is the whole seat base or part of it :confused:

[Vulture]

I'm finding my seat base move a lot, it feels like a seat with a lot more than 3500km on it. My dealer isn't all that excited and said the seat clip fix is only if there is a squeaking sound associated with it? I jumped in another GTS there with only 800Km on it and it was actually worse than mine!

[Drizt]

What a joke. Piss poor really.

[offshore]

When my dealer (service department) asked if I had any issues I didnt at the time but asked him about all the reports of climate control issues and they told me thats funny we have never heard of any problems with it. What a joke they basically lie to your face.

[Drizt]

I already have one dealer I will never buy from again.

[Smashfist]

When my dealer (service department) asked if I had any issues I didnt at the time but asked him about all the reports of climate control issues and they told me thats funny we have never heard of any problems with it. What a joke they basically lie to your face.

I've only had 1 complaint about climate control issues and we've probably sold a couple of hundred, so it's not really uncommon to not hear much about it. Sure there's the campaign but I've only had 1 customer note that he had concerns and it was fixed with the update.

The seat fix is to lube and replace a retaining clip on the base. It's only a little plastic clip.

[Krizto]

If you'd like a clean copy of my service sheet to stick under your dealerships nose PM me your email address and I'll shoot it across, sounds like a lazy service department! The guys told me this should fix the problem but to bring it back and they'll keep trying but this was the only part showing signs of wear and IS a known problem!


I'm finding my seat base move a lot, it feels like a seat with a lot more than 3500km on it. My dealer isn't all that excited and said the seat clip fix is only if there is a squeaking sound associated with it? I jumped in another GTS there with only 800Km on it and it was actually worse than mine!

[VFast]

What part number King springs? Anything lower than SL and you will get some noise. Kings are variable and have some thin coil wrap on them.
If the car is slammed then your coil clash might go away :) Offending coils will be in constant contact with those around it and there wont be the instance of coils banging together and then apart.
I had SSL in a previous VE and there was occasional noise. No massive clunks etc. I found it fine to live with.
No idea on part number - I am leaving it up to WA Suspension to sort but it is only a 30mm drop from std so probably only a SL spec.

Funny thing is my last ride was an '04 VY SS Ute that was dumped close to the weeds but didnt have any strange clunks or noises at all!

[cfour]

Had the 3k inspection service but no resolution on the sunroof rattle as then could not reproduce the noise. During the 15k service, I will take the tech on a drive on the road near my workplace... guaranteed to rattle then :)

[Wes Mantooth]

So it appears that turning the forward collision alert off doesn't actually turn it off. The issues I mentioned previously with it going off as I leave the steeply sloped car park (but not when i wanted it to work while trying to park nose in to a fence) at work annoyed me to the point that I turned it off. However it continues to make the annoying when I go out the driveway or as soon as I started the car if it's close to another object.

Has anyone managed to turn the bloody thing off completely?

[johnfhall]

So, I took my GEN-F GTS in for the 3000km inspection yesterday (Friday 13th). Asked them to change oil and filter. But that's just me.

Reported HVAC - for me 23 is sometimes freezing, and 24 is sometimes boiling. Also o/s temp is erratic, so possibly related. They have no firmware fix, also the service rep. did say his Malibu has a sticking air-flap (he can hear it vibrating) seems to have similar symptoms.

When I left, the radio sound kept going off (unable to change station from what was displayed) – went back and was told this is a known problem, also with no fix yet available. Friday the 13th gremlins I say.

Let's hope they get a fix one day soon. - I've offered to record my temps. etc. and they will update (or start?) a PIR. Great.

Holden, she's a pretty good car, mate.

[bluejam]

Hi

Gen-F GTS - I have had mainly small but annoying issues with the EDI / MyLink / GPS systems:

1) When plugging in the iPhone - instantly switches to that so you have to cycle back to the radio - no way of turning this off

2) When you plugin an iPhone or iPod - it starts to play the last tune. If you're playing from an album it will only play that one tune in repeat mode - and not the album. This also occurs if you turn the car off for any reason. To fix you have to go back, scroll down to the album you were listening too and select the tune and it will play all. This happens EVERY time i turn the car off and with 64 albums it's really really annoying. Can be distracting if you have set off and/or plugged in the iPhone / iPod - see more below...

3) The Gracenote system wants to index ALL the tunes every single time you turn the car off / on and will not let you select any tunes until it has finished. With 64 albums this indexing process takes up to 5 minutes every single time the engine is turned off/on. In conjunction with it only playing one tune out of the album this is really starting to grate.

I basically turn the car off, get back in, it starts indexing, so i turn the radio on - wait 5 mins for the indexing to stop (grrr). Go back to the iPod setting, try and find the album/tune I was playing, play it. Then need to pull over to pick something up and have to go through the entire process again.

There seems no way to turn off the gracenote or indexing system (except if you're in an underground car park and it can't get a radio signal)

4) The GPS POI can show you the speed camera's on screen etc but there is no audible warning like there was on the E-Series (I had the Clubsport E3). I'm sorry but surely if you put a 430kw engine in a car the 2nd thing you do is have a speed alert warning drivers of speed cameras and the alike! ;)

I called the Holden dealer and asked how to turn the speed camera alert on - he confirmed there is no audible warning system on the Gen-F's, This simple feature meant I have no points - and with it now missing I find myself constantly looking around for cameras that are popping up everywhere. I loved the audio tone - so HSV please bring it back!!

5) Sound - turning the bass up makes the driver door rattle - quite badly - I reckon it would do well with some better door soundproofing (can be done at home I guess).

Some others had said about the wheel buttons / UI - I agree - used to be able to turn the EDI on, control the albums, tune the radio quite easily in the E Series - they have opted to do most of this via the screen now which is frankly more dangerous to be looking at the middle screen than using the hand controls. Entire left side wheel controls are for cruise control which is a low used feature at the expense of very common controls that have been shifted on screen.

Overall great car and not had any other problems as mentioned here just some grips on poor EDI / GPS / MyLink UI and controls.

[desh]

There has JUST been released an upgrade to the computer systems for the VF, including nav, entertainment, climate, .....
Being changed in mine tomorrow, and hoping it will fix the MULTITUDE of electronic problems that I have had.
See your service re upgrade!

[Goggles]

There has JUST been released an upgrade to the computer systems for the VF, including nav, entertainment, climate, .....
Being changed in mine tomorrow, and hoping it will fix the MULTITUDE of electronic problems that I have had.
See your service re upgrade!

I wonder if I got this upgrade last Friday when I had my 3k inspection. The first time I used my sat nav after, I had to acknowledge the warning about using it when driving.

What is the version number of the revised software?

[johnfhall]

I wonder if I got this upgrade last Friday when I had my 3k inspection...

I had my 3k service last friday too, and my service guys knew of no fixes. (see http://http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?164566-VF-Commodore-HSV-Owner-s-Problems-amp-Complaints&p=2102045#post2102045 )

[Vulture]

I'm finding the collision alert system to be very good.

[jaykay]

Well I am 3.5 months into waiting for a replacement seat base. The dates kept on getting pushed out until 13th of December. It's now the 17th and still no seat base available in the country and Holden cannot tell me when it will be available.

I am just over it, the seat base is ****ed but I just put up with it now......not impressed to say the least. Oh well this looks like it will be my last new Holden product.

[GTS LSA]

[QUOTE Oh well this looks like it will be my last new Holden product.[/QUOTE]


probably for a lot of us I reckon :shiner:

So far still no issues, touch wood, will get the 3000 in Jan and ask for the AC & seat etc to be updated and or checked.,.... what do you reckon the outcome will be ..... service will play dumb and tell me they have no record of anyone else ever having issues?? :deal:

[offshore]

I'm finding the collision alert system to be very good.

Yea its ok you can get false warnings but i think its good for those times when you might be distracted for whatever reason and drive up the back of a parked car. Not that ive ever done that but at least you would get a warning.

[super coach]

how to do you select for the sat nav to show you where the fixed speed cameras are?

[offshore]

how to do you select for the sat nav to show you where the fixed speed cameras are?

Its in the settings i think its just select all for points of interest something like that

[Wonky]

how to do you select for the sat nav to show you where the fixed speed cameras are?

Unless you can do updates yourself I don't see that being of much use given red light cameras often change locations. I only have a portable Garmin Nuvi and subscribe to Garmin for my traffic camera updates. I often find certain cameras can move between a few different spots. To be honest, I'd never pay for a factory satnav system. The portable ones are easily updated with the latest maps (free lifetime in my case) and are extremely flexible re points of interest (POI).

[super coach]

I have selcted all POI'S and i have been through several and they dont come up, even ones that have been around since the cruze started to be built. I had a hyundai Veloster as a hire car and really liked its Sat Nav showed where all the Cameras were and what direction they would be picking up cars and it would be the closer you got to one

[offshore]

I have selcted all POI'S and i have been through several and they dont come up, even ones that have been around since the cruze started to be built. I had a hyundai Veloster as a hire car and really liked its Sat Nav showed where all the Cameras were and what direction they would be picking up cars and it would be the closer you got to one

The Cameras around my area all show up maybe you need an update

[super coach]

my car came off the line on the 26/11/13 I would think it's up todate, i cant read anywhere in the manual about the setting for the cameras

[jaykay]

Got a call from Holden yesterday that my replacement seat base has arrived in Melbourne. It should arrive at the dealership early next week which is not great timing as I am on leave from tomorrow night until 6/1 so it won't be changed over until that week in the new year hopefully......

[Goggles]

Got a call from Holden yesterday that my replacement seat base has arrived in Melbourne. It should arrive at the dealership early next week which is not great timing as I am on leave from tomorrow night until 6/1 so it won't be changed over until that week in the new year hopefully......

My replacement seat base arrived yesterday. Getting it fitted on 30 Dec

[desh]

Had the new s/w loaded in the Tourer yesterday.
STILL have the POI problem (when car is started from scratch, they appear even though I have "do not display" ticked)
STILL have a problem with the iPod menu - a large number of items (playlists, artists, albums) do not appear on the display/menu even though they are on the iPod (and can see them when playing random). NOTE that this has been tested on iPod, iPhone, different cables, and in a VF Calais.
Abysmal !!!!
I came over to Holden/HSV from FPV (GT's), and overall not impressed with the new electronics/climate ...!

[jaykay]

My replacement seat base arrived yesterday. Getting it fitted on 30 Dec


When was yours ordered ? Mine was 6 September....

[Goggles]

When was yours ordered ? Mine was 6 September....

Ordered last Friday 13 dec

[vfblack]

Wonder if these seat bases are any different. If they are straight replacements, they'll probably be ****ed also. Mine has the same problem

[Vfzarb]

Just got off the phone with Holden Customer Care (have a case open) for the issues i've been experiencing with my car. They let me know that my dealership has just had the update "delivered" to them so they can update my car. Hopefully this fixes the climate control issues. Not sure if it will fix my radio reception issues though.

I'll attempt to get a video / audio recording of the radio issues. Its shitting me to no end. At least once the radio is fixed, i can stop listening to the rattles from the seatbelt mechanisms (getting right rear passenger replaced), drivers seat rattle, sunroof rattle.......

Car has just over 9500km on clock now. God help me at 100k

Ryan

[Snappa]

I had my car in yesterday to get the latest update for the MyLink as mentioned above. The dealer was installing it yesterday after it was released to them. When they tried to install it on my car (build Sep 2013) it reported that it was already up to date!! It looks like the dealers have just got the factory version now to update older versions. I have uploaded the current version of my software for others to check! Hope this helps. No idea what the updates has fixed, but I do not have any Fixed Speed camera POI.

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[johnfhall]

My GEN-F GTS (September 2013 build) has not yet been updated.

Here is what my 3 info screens show:-
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz167/johnfhall/IMG_0171_zpsc9a9ce66.jpg
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz167/johnfhall/IMG_0173_zps46ce5fe7.jpg
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz167/johnfhall/IMG_0174_zps9d79b98d.jpg

[Smashfist]

Just got off the phone with Holden Customer Care (have a case open) for the issues i've been experiencing with my car. They let me know that my dealership has just had the update "delivered" to them so they can update my car. Hopefully this fixes the climate control issues. Not sure if it will fix my radio reception issues though.

MyLink updates are distributed on USB sticks due to their size (huge). So yes they probably just did have it "delivered".

Radio reception is a common complaint in newer cars - more electronics + building to a budget means less ability to pick up stations 3 major towns away. I don't know how many people bring cars in expecting crystal clear radio for stations that are based 200km away.........

[redvxr8clubby]

MyLink updates are distributed on USB sticks due to their size (huge). So yes they probably just did have it "delivered".

Radio reception is a common complaint in newer cars - more electronics + building to a budget means less ability to pick up stations 3 major towns away. I don't know how many people bring cars in expecting crystal clear radio for stations that are based 200km away.........

I have crap radio Reception in my povo pack 2012 Fiesta, I am talking radio stations in Sydney when I am in Sydney. I don't have any problems with my 06 Lancer, 09 SV6 or 2000 Clubby. With the Fiesta I can excuse it because it is one of the cheapest new cars on the market. I would be less impressed if it was a $40 or $50K Commodore.

[Plenty]

You wanna hear poor radio quality? Try an FG Ford/FPV my ute has pathetic reception and crackles regardless of the source, take it to the dealer and it just a "Ford" thing apparently. I have had the ICC unit replaced as well as all the speakers, i believe it's an earthing issue.

My E3 on the other hand has fantastic reception and will receive Perth metro stations a good 50km further than the FPV.

[Wes Mantooth]

I can get reasonable reception on a couple of Sydney stations out to Bathurst so it's definitely not an issue with the entire model range.

[Vfzarb]

MyLink updates are distributed on USB sticks due to their size (huge). So yes they probably just did have it "delivered".

Radio reception is a common complaint in newer cars - more electronics + building to a budget means less ability to pick up stations 3 major towns away. I don't know how many people bring cars in expecting crystal clear radio for stations that are based 200km away.........

My issues are all within metro Melbourne and surrounding suburbs. For example, driving towards the westgate bridge outbound and triple m went from perfect to nothing but static. And my two friends who both have new VF SSV Redlines aren't experiencing the same issues as i am in the same areas as far as i know. So it must be something to do with my car.

All three redlines were purchased from the same dealership. Not that would make much difference other then perhaps choice of tint supplier etc.

[black stallion]

I have given up trying to get my car fixed.
I now have 35,000 on the clock.
HVAC still has a mind of it's own. Told by Holden technical that the issue cannot be fixed as it was designed this way.
Outside temperature sensor regularly provides a fictional number.
Wipers go off on hot days with no moisture in sight.
Drivers mirror was replaced, new one is noisier than the old one.
Seat still moves despite being updated.
IPOD control varies depending on the day. Sometimes it takes 6-7 minutes to index, other days very quick. Also have issues as described by others where tracks repeat for no reason, albums play despite only a song requested, shuffle refuses to stay ticked and speakers still rattle.
Despite sending a letter to Mike Devereux (and he personally called me and told me my concerns would be attended to with urgency), the facts remain this car is not worth $55K. Quality control, panel fits and after sales service are below expectations. After 5 Holdens in 10 years, this is the last. Come June 2015, this car will have nearly 150,000 on the clock and will probably rattle, squeak and clunk if the next 3 half year increments are as bad as the first half year.

[Drizt]

No fix? Ask for your money back. Simply unacceptable.

[duaned]

Mine is fine. So far.

[offshore]

I think i have the seat problem its faint movement like something is loose and moving around really cant be bothered taking it to the dealer yet and im overseas in about 12 days or so might have to wait. Its 5600km

[vfblack]

All the seats are ****ed. The guys that got them replaced, just got another ****ed seat put in!!

[Wes Mantooth]

My seats are fine. Does this only happen after a certain number of kays?

[offshore]

My seats are fine. Does this only happen after a certain number of kays?

Maybe mine was fine until a couple of hundred kms ago i dont notice all the time but when it does it feels like something is shifting inside the base and then it moves to one side and stops when it stops is when you can feel it. If I take the seat out and have a look ill probably be able to see it. Dont have much confidence in the dealer fixing it by just replacing it but it must be some thing in there thats easy to fix if you can find it.

[Micks]

Maybe mine was fine until a couple of hundred kms ago i dont notice all the time but when it does it feels like something is shifting inside the base and then it moves to one side and stops when it stops is when you can feel it. If I take the seat out and have a look ill probably be able to see it. Dont have much confidence in the dealer fixing it by just replacing it but it must be some thing in there thats easy to fix if you can find it.

I luv this thread hoping GM sort all these issues before I buy a series two!!!

[vfblack]

if they make a series 2 mate

[Micks]

if they make a series 2 mate
Reckon they will mate, they're on a winner with this! ;)

[VL Executive]

Certainly hope they do, because I want a VF II SS Ute. But regardless, hope they have the niggly problems ironed out of them by 2016 /17 when I'm looking at buying one

[jaykay]

Finally the replacement seat base arrived and my car went in this morning to have it replaced. I picked the car up and drove the 6km back to work and it seemed fixed. Will test it on the big roundabouts near my house on the way home tonight as that was the worst spot for the movement....

Just over 4 months from first inspection when the part was ordered until today......

Description on work docket - "RHF seat has movement. Movement in the base not gears. Removed and replaced seat base test all OK".

Part No. replaced - GM13582455 - Frame ASM - F/Seat CUSH

[GTS LSA]

Gotta love the " test all OK" .... 99 % BS, but gets them out of warranty work..... And yes I am a cynical b@stard

[BLACKVE]

Finally the replacement seat base arrived and my car went in this morning to have it replaced. I picked the car up and drove the 6km back to work and it seemed fixed. Will test it on the big roundabouts near my house on the way home tonight as that was the worst spot for the movement....

Just over 4 months from first inspection when the part was ordered until today......

Description on work docket - "RHF seat has movement. Movement in the base not gears. Removed and replaced seat base test all OK".

Part No. replaced - GM13582455 - Frame ASM - F/Seat CUSH

How have you put up with it for that long must be frustrating, have they thrown a free service in??? That is really poor service holden.

[jaykay]

How have you put up with it for that long must be frustrating, have they thrown a free service in??? That is really poor service holden.

Yeah I have had to put up with it, no other choice. And no offer of a free service :-(

[vfblack]

Just curious.

Can someone with a redline please check their boot and tell me if I'm missing a grommet or something. I just noticed this hole and it looks strange . Thanks.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy290/stbobau/IMAG0363_zpsdba62ce8.jpg

[HOTSV8]

Just curious.

Can someone with a redline please check their boot and tell me if I'm missing a grommet or something. I just noticed this hole and it looks strange . Thanks.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy290/stbobau/IMAG0363_zpsdba62ce8.jpg


Mines the same . Must be a drain hole .

[jaykay]

Finally the replacement seat base arrived and my car went in this morning to have it replaced. I picked the car up and drove the 6km back to work and it seemed fixed. Will test it on the big roundabouts near my house on the way home tonight as that was the worst spot for the movement....

Just over 4 months from first inspection when the part was ordered until today......

Description on work docket - "RHF seat has movement. Movement in the base not gears. Removed and replaced seat base test all OK".

Part No. replaced - GM13582455 - Frame ASM - F/Seat CUSH

The seat passed the roundabout tests so all good finally !!! :) :) :)

[Crusty]

The seat passed the roundabout tests so all good finally !!! :) :) :)

Woohoo, now I'll have to get mine booked in and done!

[vfblack]

Mines the same . Must be a drain hole .

Cheers mate

[effy61]

Just over 2k on the clock for my VF Calais V and is driving great.

1. Heated mirrors are no issues for me so far.
2. Seats will not heat on remote start.
3. I can only get blisteringly hot on HI. 30 degrees or less is freezing cold.

VE Calais V MY08 was a fantastic car.



Ensure that the Remote Start Auto Heat Seat is selected. This feature will come on at a low setting, and will only be activated when the external vehicle temperature is less than 10 degrees Celsius. Quote from Holden web site re heated seats

Hope this helps with Question/ problem 2
cheers
effy

[desh]

Following a recent upgrade to the computer(s), there is a definite improvement with the HVAC system, though I still think there is room for improvement (intend using a temp monitor to check).

HOWEVER, problems which were NOT fixed are:
- iPod menu still misses artists, albums etc.
- POI’s are NOT cleared after startup, have to tap the clear menu item each time.


NEW problems that appeared last Saturday..


NEW – Lost “Environment” settings

Stopped car in Camperdown. When I restarted some time after, the settings I had for fan, aircond, vents was not restored, but an even older setting was. This has not happened before. It looks like the “current” settings were not saved when the car was stopped so it reverted to the previous?

NEW – Lost sound

Car was restarted after stopping for fuel in Geelong, the sound system came up ok, but about 10 seconds later the front speakers stopped working. This meant no indicator clicks etc. Stopped/restarted car, no change.

After a rest of about an hour, car was restarted and speakers were restored.


Have to say not impressed with Holden's action on all this!

[HOTSV8]

I had the mylink screen freeze on me last week . Had music playing through phone on iPod mode. Music kept playing but couldn't change screen to anything else . Even reverse camera didn't come up . Turned car off for 10 minutes and on restart it came good . Also noticed the rear screen seal on passenger side top doesn't come out to edge of glass . Mentioned both issues to service dept today on 3000 km inspection . They couldn't find fault with mylink, which was fine , as it's only happened the once , and they are going to replace the rear screen when they get one in . All in all happy with car so far and happy with service from dealer ( Robina Holden ).

[VY2VF]

Hi everyone,

I've had my SV6 since late July last year and the only real issues I have so far is the "something" rattles or moves in the front passenger door when turning right, the seatbelt alarm (when someone has released the buckle whilst moving) doesn't activate, the parking sensors sometimes don't work and occasionally i get a warning that the boot is not closed, when it is??

No biggie really, I still love to drive it :driving:

cheers
Damo

[offshore]

Looks like ive got to take mine to the dealer now. Front seat same as others have had problems but the thing that is pissing me off the most now is aircon. If I turn it on it wont turn off seems to have a mind of its own some times it turns off if I turn the fan off other times there is massive delay like 15 or 20 mins driving it finally turns its self off.

[IJ.]

Word from an insider mate is the HVAC issues are well known and have been present in the USA models that use this soft/hardware combination and may never be "fixed".... sorry guys.

[offshore]

Word from an insider mate is the HVAC issues are well known and have been present in the USA models that use this soft/hardware combination and may never be "fixed".... sorry guys.

Yea its shame the car is ok but all these little problems makes me want to take back all the bad things I said about BMW electrics lol.

[Crusty]

I just don't see the issue with the HVAC, since mine had the original update done it works perfectly. I set it on 22 and it keeps me nice and cool even on the hottest days this week.

[offshore]

I just don't see the issue with the HVAC, since mine had the original update done it works perfectly. I set it on 22 and it keeps me nice and cool even on the hottest days this week.

Mine was ok for about 5500kms and now its just started to play up by not wanting to switch off the aircon even when he aircon button is off.

[Crusty]

Mine was ok for about 5500kms and now its just started to play up by not wanting to switch off the aircon even when he aircon button is off.

12000 km's on mine and working fine.

[my_Berlina]

Hi everyone,

... and occasionally i get a warning that the boot is not closed, when it is??

Damo

I had a similar issue, had just put a fold up gazebo in the boot, through the fold down back seat hole. Drove off, then in the second left corner (may have been giving it a bit of a go) the boot is open warning came up. Look in the mirror, and no open boot. When I stopped a bit further down the road, I opened the boot, and all looked ok, but when I closed it it did not latch. After a bit of phaffing around, looking for stuff not lining up, I noticed that the gazebo was against the boot emergency release pull ring. Shoved the gazebo to the left, and tucked the pull ring in to the lining, and the boot closed again.

Dave !

[Crusty]

Anyone have a manual that has a squeaky/dry feeling clutch when the car has been parked in the heat? Mine has done it a few times now, took it to dealer and "no fault found" but it did it again in the heat today.

[VFast]

Anyone have a manual that has a squeaky/dry feeling clutch when the car has been parked in the heat? Mine has done it a few times now, took it to dealer and "no fault found" but it did it again in the heat today.
No problems here and my car has spent a few hot days in the baking heat that we have had here in Perth recently.

The clutch is probably the best i have had. Great feel and nice takeup.

[dgp]

Calais V with factory tow bar fitted....the bloody reverse sensors are always going off with nothing behind me, and yes I have set the preferences for "tow bar fitted"

[ennzed]

Just hit 3500 km and straight after the first service I've noticed a 'jingling' noise coming from the rear suspension whenever I go over bumps, small or large.

[b0son]

Only had it two days so far... nothing wrong with it yet, but an annoyance... you leave the car, lock it, and it wont lock and beeps at you for no obvious reason. Have to get back in the car, start/switch off and leave again and lock again. Weird.

[offshore]

Only does that if you dont press the engine off button before you get out?

[b0son]

Only does that if you dont press the engine off button before you get out?

No, after I turn it off. Only thing I can think of is I forget to put the park brake on?

[Crusty]

No, after I turn it off. Only thing I can think of is I forget to put the park brake on?

I'm pretty sure it requires the park brake to be on, I've got a manual so I always put mine on.

[Vulture]

No, after I turn it off. Only thing I can think of is I forget to put the park brake on?

Left a key in the car?

[b0son]

Left a key in the car?

No... and strangely today, when I turned the car off (while still in the car), it beeped like I had tried to lock it with a door open. I think I will get them to reflash the software at the first service.

Other than those minor glitches, huge thumbs up.

[offshore]

Ive got to take mine in soon the aircon when switched on will not turn off. And the lower seat rattle or movement. The aircon seems to have played up in the heat this summer so maybe its still on auto so with the heat it just stays on. Today it stayed on the whole time didnt matter when I stopped the car and got fuel and aircon button was off and got back in and started it with aircon button still off the aircon was on.

[GenF-GTS]

Hi guy's,

I am in serious consideration of buying a 2013 HSV GTS however I have read every single post in this thread about Holden issues with the VF
however was unable to find HSV issues.....

My question is directed at Gen F HSV's has anyone had any of these problems with the HSV range, really do not want to get stung with a load of warranty issues.

From what I can see about the holden range is:
Problem with drivers seat when cornering
Climate control issues
Parking sensor issues
Seat warmer issues
Heated mirror issues
Reversing camera issues
Locking the car issues
Sound system issues
MyLink or EDI issues
GPS issues
Bluetooth issues

So has anyone with a new VF model HSV had any of these issues....i would also love to hear from people who have Gen F - HSV's and have good things to say about them so i can get it straight from the horses mouth....or forum members in this case.

Thanks :)

[DanielSS-V]

Since Holden make the donor car for HSV any common components, which is most on your list, are going to have potentially the same issues, if Holden themselves haven't already fixed them.

HSV make performance and handling enhancements for the cars, not general fixes for the car. QA isn't somehow inherently better or different on HSV models. Actually some of the bumpers I have seen on Gen F cars are finished to a worse standard then a SS.

[offshore]

Since Holden make the donor car for HSV any common components, which is most on your list, are going to have potentially the same issues, if Holden themselves haven't already fixed them.

HSV make performance and handling enhancements for the cars, not general fixes for the car. QA isn't somehow inherently better or different on HSV models. Actually some of the bumpers I have seen on Gen F cars are finished to a worse standard then a SS.

No difference mate HSV is just bolt on stuff besides the GTS really which has quiet a bit more done to it and also HSv has some software changes.

[ennzed]

Just hit 3500 km and straight after the first service I've noticed a 'jingling' noise coming from the rear suspension whenever I go over bumps, small or large.

Scratch this one off the list. Put it on the hoist and found a rock almost as big as my fist stuck in the control arm.

[VY2VF]

Calais V with factory tow bar fitted....the bloody reverse sensors are always going off with nothing behind me, and yes I have set the preferences for "tow bar fitted"

I'm starting to get that problem as well, I just learn to ignore it now :)

[Ghosn]

I'm starting to get that problem as well, I just learn to ignore it now :)

Until you hit something

[VY2VF]

Until you hit something

But I still look though, I just learn to ignore the annoying noise:cool:

[tigers1]

hi,
Picked up my brand new ss on Tuesday, haven't driven since Friday night, went to start this morning battery was dead, wtf had to jump start. anyone else had problems with battery

[doc]

hi,
Picked up my brand new ss on Tuesday, haven't driven since Friday night, went to start this morning battery was dead, wtf had to jump start. anyone else had problems with battery

Mate of mine, car 2 mths old, had the same problem with his Calais.

[Trewman]

Picked up my ssv manual last night really impressed with it and a totally new world compared to my old vz ss.

Problems Ive been having but may be standard I don't know for some:

- Passenger turns zone temp up and it blows cold air on drivers legs?
- General climate weirdness with fans etc my vz was perfect
- Strong wind noise from drivers door on freeway didn't have with vz
- phone always pairs but only sometimes address book and text messaging etc works (note 2)
- Slight clunk when changing gears but could be me trying to get use to not having a heavy clutch

[dgp]

Calais V with factory tow bar fitted....the bloody reverse sensors are always going off with nothing behind me, and yes I have set the preferences for "tow bar fitted"

I had my 15k service done today and found out the car was never programmed for the tow bar. Not sure which computer needs the programming but it's done now and all sorted

[desh]

I am still having problems with iPod indexing.
Does anyone have an iPod Classic with plenty of music and can comment?
Problem is after indexing, there are a large number of missing artist, albums. When playing all songs, I can see/hear the missing artists/albums.

[heavyduty1340]

Had my SSV Ute for 3 months now, done 9000km in it.

Ive cammed, full system, mafless tuned it through SQP

It has done laps around Barbagello, 1/4 mile runs at Perth Motorplex, and general driving for all of that, and to this day, I still haven't had a single problem with it.

Im still loving every bit of the move from a VE to the VF

[heavyduty1340]

Here is the VF doing a burn out prior to an 12.7 pass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7IttgVgooM&feature=player_detailpage

[Y.B.SHY]

I am still having problems with iPod indexing.
Does anyone have an iPod Classic with plenty of music and can comment?
Problem is after indexing, there are a large number of missing artist, albums. When playing all songs, I can see/hear the missing artists/albums.

I have the same issue with mine. My dealer can't seem to fix it with software patches do they are now seeking approval from Holden to replace the whole MyLink system.

[desh]

I have the same issue with mine. My dealer can't seem to fix it with software patches do they are now seeking approval from Holden to replace the whole MyLink system.

Thanks for the feedback - I am not alone!!!!
I have had my Classic in another VF and the problem travels with the Classic.
Will post any progress.

[flukeyluke]

I have an iPod Nano with about 1000 songs on it, connected via the USB port.
In my Redline, the Mylink indexes every time I start the car and it takes about 15 minutes before I can go in and select tracks or artists.
The service manager at Holden said it comes down to how the music is recorded to your iPod.
He clearly has NFI.

[desh]

As per previous post ("I am still having problems with iPod indexing. Problem is after indexing, there are a large number of missing artist, albums. When playing all songs, I can see/hear the missing artists/albums").

I received a call from Holden saying that they have duplicated the problem, and are "now working with Apple to rectify".

[black stallion]

A Holden engineer has reviewed my Calais V twice and keeps reporting he can't replicate the issues I have.
As a result, Holden will not look at the issues any more. I have travelled 51,000 klms in this VF, he did less than 20 and based his findings on that.
Clearly, Holden don't want to fix this car and the case manager has stopped responding.
The contempt shown by Holden is extremely disappointing. I have been loyal to a fault.
No more.
I just took delivery of a 2014 Corolla for my wife. A Holden was never considered. After many, many Holden's in my past, this experience has left me very bitter. The 2015 replacement for my car will not be a Holden.

[MLX]

A Holden engineer has reviewed my Calais V twice and keeps reporting he can't replicate the issues I have.
As a result, Holden will not look at the issues any more. I have travelled 51,000 klms in this VF, he did less than 20 and based his findings on that.
Clearly, Holden don't want to fix this car and the case manager has stopped responding.
The contempt shown by Holden is extremely disappointing. I have been loyal to a fault.
No more.
I just took delivery of a 2014 Corolla for my wife. A Holden was never considered. After many, many Holden's in my past, this experience has left me very bitter. The 2015 replacement for my car will not be a Holden.

I feel your pain.

I purchased a new Calais V (V6) 6 weeks ago. HUD wasnt working. Told to bring it back for rectifying the following in inner Sydney. Not rectified. Took it back a second time, told to bring back again, so I did. waited all day, told i cant have teh car back as the whole dash had been removed. Dealership gave me a Hyundai Accent as a temporary replacement. Got the car back again, and now HUD works, but the forward collision alert doesn't work now, the Lane departure warning doesn't work now, the alarm doesn't work, the remote start doesnt work, the remote boot opening doesnt work. Back it goes again. This time after I complain they give me a VF SV6. They bring the car back to me and looks as if everything is resolved. But it isnt. The drivers window is down and wont go back up, then the dash blacks out, resets almost immediately after driving it again the next day, and lo and behold the drivers window now works again. It bizarre. I lodged a complaint with Holden requesting a replacement car, 6 weeks old, multiple faults, less than 4000Km, and a Holden regional manager is inspecting it tomorrow. I will let you know the outcome, but I now have serious doubts about the electricals in this car now after multiple returns, and multiple issues arising. They fix fix one to only reveal another. Seriously not happy with this purchase at this point in time.

[desh]

iPod indexing problem for .WAV files
Holden have come back and said there is no "Hardware" (??? Hardware ??) problem, and therefore there is nothing to fix.
However, to get over my problem I should convert all my WAV files to Apple lossless.
This is rubbish. They told me they had duplicated the problem, now they are not going to fix it, and want me to move from WAV (I spent the time converting all my CD/Music to WAV as it is more portable).

As previously posted, am not getting 50% of artists. Yet when I play "random" on all songs, these artists and their songs are played. It is obviously a s/w error - one beyond me as indexing should just be a "folder" search (with a bit of smarts - eg: are there any songs)?

Holden, you have just lost a (HSV) customer.

(ps. Not going to stop hassling them!! This is just NOT right!)

[dgp]

I have a VF Calais V and the drivers side mirror has started to dip and move out when I select reverse! This only occurs when I have the dip mirror ticked in the settings and it does not come back to its original position when I go back to Drive.
After it moving, if I press my memory seat button the mirror still does not come back to where it should be.

[Smashfist]

iPod indexing problem for .WAV files
Holden have come back and said there is no "Hardware" (??? Hardware ??) problem, and therefore there is nothing to fix.
However, to get over my problem I should convert all my WAV files to Apple lossless.
This is rubbish. They told me they had duplicated the problem, now they are not going to fix it, and want me to move from WAV (I spent the time converting all my CD/Music to WAV as it is more portable).

As previously posted, am not getting 50% of artists. Yet when I play "random" on all songs, these artists and their songs are played. It is obviously a s/w error - one beyond me as indexing should just be a "folder" search (with a bit of smarts - eg: are there any songs)?

Holden, you have just lost a (HSV) customer.

(ps. Not going to stop hassling them!! This is just NOT right!)

No manufacturer can make a system compatible with 100% of devices - there are too many variables that are impossible to control (and honestly you can't get upset at a third party device not working 100% - maybe the problem is at Apple's end, you don't know - it's a little unreasonable to bag Holden for it). I'd wait until the MyLink update due later on this year and see if it makes a difference (or update software on your iPod).

[Goggles]

I'd wait until the MyLink update due later on this year and see if it makes a difference (or update software on your iPod).

Any idea of what is coming in the mylink update and whether it will be applied to existing VFs?

[lethal66]

I have a VF Calais V and the drivers side mirror has started to dip and move out when I select reverse! This only occurs when I have the dip mirror ticked in the settings and it does not come back to its original position when I go back to Drive.
After it moving, if I press my memory seat button the mirror still does not come back to where it should be.

I was in newcastle 1 week ago and had a hire car vf caprice v8 from avis.It had the same problem.reverse out left mirror would dip place in drive sometimes mirror would stay pointing to ground.

[offshore]

I was in newcastle 1 week ago and had a hire car vf caprice v8 from avis.It had the same problem.reverse out left mirror would dip place in drive sometimes mirror would stay pointing to ground.

You did well getting a V8 rental. I have never had any luck on getting one in years lol. Ive got a Holden Cruze CDX at the moment from Avis

[HSV Listy]

I was in newcastle 1 week ago and had a hire car vf caprice v8 from avis.It had the same problem.reverse out left mirror would dip place in drive sometimes mirror would stay pointing to ground.


Probably unrelated. Sure it's not in the settings. That same issue with the mirror staying put happens on my avalanche a completely different system, car and technology.
It's only on my keys, the misses keys it works perfectly every time.
Change to a different set of keys to test, no harm trying .

I had caprice booked on a trip to Brisbane but the previous hirer did not return it so I got stuck in a dam nissan micra. Pissed I could tell you

[Woodchukka]

Read this last night about AC faults on the VE and was wondering if it would be a potential fix for some of the AC issues here. Hope it is of some use.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/Woodchukka/VEEvapfault.jpg

[lethal66]

You did well getting a V8 rental. I have never had any luck on getting one in years lol. Ive got a Holden Cruze CDX at the moment from Avis

I work for bhp and preferred. If I hire a commodore we normally get a Calais or caprice. For 5 days rental it cost me $245.80 including unlimited klms .

[CLUBRED]

Slightly off topic, but work got me a new fleet car, a Hybrid Camry. And at first I wasn't too concerned but when I first drove it man it's terribly disappointing, and I don't mean performance, but build quality and overall layout of instruments. I don't like it at all, and vision is terrible, so much so as I much prefer to jump back into my Calais with big A pillars. The Camry feels like a nervous car to drive, like a hyperactive shih tzu, always doing something that doesn't make sense - anyways, to bring these coments back on thread, I wonder if we're being too harsh on the Commodore, the other AU built cars aren't that much better, if at all.

[dgp]

I fixed my mirror issues, I just set the presets again and all good.

[offshore]

Slightly off topic, but work got me a new fleet car, a Hybrid Camry. And at first I wasn't too concerned but when I first drove it man it's terribly disappointing, and I don't mean performance, but build quality and overall layout of instruments. I don't like it at all, and vision is terrible, so much so as I much prefer to jump back into my Calais with big A pillars. The Camry feels like a nervous car to drive, like a hyperactive shih tzu, always doing something that doesn't make sense - anyways, to bring these coments back on thread, I wonder if we're being too harsh on the Commodore, the other AU built cars aren't that much better, if at all.

I had had one of these as well as a hire car last year and it was the most boring car ive ever driven. It just reminded me of an appliance you buy at harvey norman like a microwave its just a thing that does a job and thats it.

[desh]

No manufacturer can make a system compatible with 100% of devices - there are too many variables that are impossible to control (and honestly you can't get upset at a third party device not working 100% - maybe the problem is at Apple's end, you don't know - it's a little unreasonable to bag Holden for it). I'd wait until the MyLink update due later on this year and see if it makes a difference (or update software on your iPod).

Ok, but I TOTALLY beg to differ!!!
They advertise that the car is iPod compatible.
Then they told me the iPod Classic was not supported (where does it say "iPod but not the still for sale Classic".
They say it will play my iPod, where does it say "iPod but not .WAV files"? WAV is pretty standard!

My previous 2 cars, BF/FG FPV GT's (so going back quite a few years) had no problems whatsoever. Neither does the system fitted to my 928GT.
If almost didnt buy the Tourer because of the crap sound system in the wagons (it was only that I wanted a wagon).

Yes, "I" personally will bag the crap out of Holden for this issue alone (and that is forgetting all the other issues that have been suffered by many with the sound, air, computer...).

As I previously posted, the unit can play WAV. It is "only" an indexing problem, and the problem is based on the file extension (.WAV).

[cashie]

Ok, but I TOTALLY beg to differ!!!
They advertise that the car is iPod compatible.
Then they told me the iPod Classic was not supported (where does it say "iPod but not the still for sale Classic".
They say it will play my iPod, where does it say "iPod but not .WAV files"? WAV is pretty standard!

My previous 2 cars, BF/FG FPV GT's (so going back quite a few years) had no problems whatsoever. Neither does the system fitted to my 928GT.
If almost didnt buy the Tourer because of the crap sound system in the wagons (it was only that I wanted a wagon).

Yes, "I" personally will bag the crap out of Holden for this issue alone (and that is forgetting all the other issues that have been suffered by many with the sound, air, computer...).

As I previously posted, the unit can play WAV. It is "only" an indexing problem, and the problem is based on the file extension (.WAV).

They advertise that the car is compatible with some iPods.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd309/cashie5/iPod_zps6dc08dea.jpg (http://s223.photobucket.com/user/cashie5/media/iPod_zps6dc08dea.jpg.html)

Have you tried the obvious stuff, ie reset the device, turn of the mass storage option on it etc?

Out of interest, is this the only issue you have with your VF? (you mention others have sound, air, computer issues)

[00-FTAP]

Just bought a VF SSV REDLINE and all of a sudden the GPS thinks I am in Melbourne (I am in Sydney) any help?

[Wonky]

Think it's trying to tell you the place to be!! :D

[Micks]

Think it's trying to tell you the place to be!! :D

Been told the best part is the road outta there! :lol:

[IJ.]

Been told the best part is the road outta there! :lol:
At least we have that much :p

[offshore]

Just bought a VF SSV REDLINE and all of a sudden the GPS thinks I am in Melbourne (I am in Sydney) any help?

Just reset the whole thing in the config menu and that seems to fix things like that

[00-FTAP]

Cheers bud only got it today lol

[Mr Frit]

VF SS Auto Sportwagon climate control set at 22, goes from hot to cold until I turn it up or down. Then its ok. Dealer said it's any easy fix at service. Apart from that It's awesome. VF is quieter, smoother, more comfortable and more practical than VE. Remember it's a car, not 1000 song iphone dukebox.

[lethal66]

Apart from that It's awesome. VF is quieter, smoother, more comfortable and more practical than VE. Remember it's a car, not 1000 song iphone dukebox.

Haha we'll said..

[Wes Mantooth]

Does anyone else find their low fuel warning kick in at different stages? Mine started out doing the initial warning at 50km remaining, and then again at 20km remaining. Now the first warning seems to show up with anywhere up to between 70-80km remaining.

Also, yesterday I got a "Service Front Camera" notification. Seems a bit odd with only 4000km on the car.

Oh and last night I noticed that when using high beams, the little high beam icon that normally shows on the HUD doesn't always show up. Might be time to take it in for a look.

[CLUBRED]

My VE does something similar, while the ranges aren't as far apart, I just put it down to driving conditions being different...

[Wonky]

Does anyone else find their low fuel warning kick in at different stages? Mine started out doing the initial warning at 50km remaining, and then again at 20km remaining. Now the first warning seems to show up with anywhere up to between 70-80km remaining.

As CLUBRED intimated, it depends on driving conditions. From watching how the low fuel warning in my VE SSV operates I strongly suspect it goes off when the tank reaches a certain level. Distance remaining is extremely dependent on your current driving. For example, Wednesday night I drove to and back home again from Pt Cook, a round trip of approx 185km. When I left home my distance remaining said 310km. When I got home 185km later distance remaining was 380km!! :shock:

How? Simple! The driving I'd done before leaving home involved slow traffic, traffic lights etc so the distance remaining was calculated on that type of driving. The trip to Pt Cook was 98% 2 lane highway/4 lane freeway at 7.30pm going and midnight coming home so I could sit on the speed limit all the way, not one traffic light etc so the distance remaining was calculated using almost optimum driving.

Bottom line: if you're cruising along the freeway then your distance remaining will reflect that and be quite high (relatively) when the level in the tank reaches that point. If you're in heavy traffic or giving it a caning then your distance remaining will correspondingly be quite low when the level in the tank reaches the predetermined point.

Clear as mud eh? :D

[planetdavo]

Ok, but I TOTALLY beg to differ!!!
They advertise that the car is iPod compatible.
Then they told me the iPod Classic was not supported (where does it say "iPod but not the still for sale Classic".
They say it will play my iPod, where does it say "iPod but not .WAV files"? WAV is pretty standard!

My previous 2 cars, BF/FG FPV GT's (so going back quite a few years) had no problems whatsoever. Neither does the system fitted to my 928GT.
If almost didnt buy the Tourer because of the crap sound system in the wagons (it was only that I wanted a wagon).

Yes, "I" personally will bag the crap out of Holden for this issue alone (and that is forgetting all the other issues that have been suffered by many with the sound, air, computer...).

As I previously posted, the unit can play WAV. It is "only" an indexing problem, and the problem is based on the file extension (.WAV).

It's rather unproductive to think Apple related issues are all "Holden's problem". You'd also have to have a problem with every other brand of car available too if you wanted to pursue that sort of thinking!
Reckon if you tried a newer iPhone in your older cars you'd have some sort of functionality problem you'd be unhappy with too.
Referring to Holden's website on MyLink compatability, they have only tested some iPhone models for Bluetooth compatability. Meaning they HAVEN'T confirmed any other products of Apple's will function as the buyer may wish.
Hence the image "cashie" posted up- "Not compatable with all products". Perhaps buyers SHOULD be testing these things before purchase if they matter so much. Saying this, if the car otherwise suits, perhaps it's better to get an Apple product tested for compatability than it is to bag a car for not suiting your existing phone/media device...

[planetdavo]

As CLUBRED intimated, it depends on driving conditions. From watching how the low fuel warning in my VE SSV operates I strongly suspect it goes off when the tank reaches a certain level. Distance remaining is extremely dependent on your current driving. For example, Wednesday night I drove to and back home again from Pt Cook, a round trip of approx 185km. When I left home my distance remaining said 310km. When I got home 185km later distance remaining was 380km!! :shock:

How? Simple! The driving I'd done before leaving home involved slow traffic, traffic lights etc so the distance remaining was calculated on that type of driving. The trip to Pt Cook was 98% 2 lane highway/4 lane freeway at 7.30pm going and midnight coming home so I could sit on the speed limit all the way, not one traffic light etc so the distance remaining was calculated using almost optimum driving.

Bottom line: if you're cruising along the freeway then your distance remaining will reflect that and be quite high (relatively) when the level in the tank reaches that point. If you're in heavy traffic or giving it a caning then your distance remaining will correspondingly be quite low when the level in the tank reaches the predetermined point.

Clear as mud eh? :D

Well described Wonky.

[planetdavo]

Just some additional information for people having some issues with device "connectivity" in VF with MyLink.
I know it's a bit of a foreign concept, but as the old saying goes- if all else fails, read the manual...;)

http://www.holden.com.au/ownership/techconnect/commodore_sv6_sedan_my_14

[Papa007]

I have the same issue with mine. My dealer can't seem to fix it with software patches do they are now seeking approval from Holden to replace the whole MyLink system.

I have a July 13 SV6 I had the same problem. It took 8 Months but they finally replaced the MyLink Unit and my problem disappeared. They had me deleting songs reinstalling software for Months. I cracked the Sh..ts with the Dealer and all of a sudden they did what I asked Months ago. Ive since heard that there are quite a few early Models with this same problem so I suggest you tell them to look into replacing the Unit. It now works perfectly with my iPhone, kids iPods

[dgp]

Well my mirror dipping issue has returned. After I pressure wash my car at the car wash, the mirrors seem to chuck a spaz. The only way I can fix it is turn off the reverse dipping passenger mirror and reset all of my seat memory positions.
Does anyone have any idea how the water can be affecting the electronics?

[Wes Mantooth]

As CLUBRED intimated, it depends on driving conditions. From watching how the low fuel warning in my VE SSV operates I strongly suspect it goes off when the tank reaches a certain level. Distance remaining is extremely dependent on your current driving. For example, Wednesday night I drove to and back home again from Pt Cook, a round trip of approx 185km. When I left home my distance remaining said 310km. When I got home 185km later distance remaining was 380km!! :shock:

How? Simple! The driving I'd done before leaving home involved slow traffic, traffic lights etc so the distance remaining was calculated on that type of driving. The trip to Pt Cook was 98% 2 lane highway/4 lane freeway at 7.30pm going and midnight coming home so I could sit on the speed limit all the way, not one traffic light etc so the distance remaining was calculated using almost optimum driving.

Bottom line: if you're cruising along the freeway then your distance remaining will reflect that and be quite high (relatively) when the level in the tank reaches that point. If you're in heavy traffic or giving it a caning then your distance remaining will correspondingly be quite low when the level in the tank reaches the predetermined point.

Clear as mud eh? :D

I'm well aware of all that, but it doesn't really explain why the final warning (the one you can't clear) ALWAYS happens with 20km remaining. And it was originally beginning to warn of low fuel when there was 50km remaining, regardless of the type of driving I was doing. The only difference the type of driving made was just how quickly it got to those low fuel warnings.

In the end, it's not a huge deal. I just find it a little odd.

[Goggles]

slightly off-topic.

after having my VF for seven months, I have found how to activate service mode. by putting my car into this mode, it means that my music stays on as long as it takes to wash my car.

to enable the service mode, just push the stop/start button for five seconds.

[Number55]

slightly off-topic.

after having my VF for seven months, I have found how to activate service mode. by putting my car into this mode, it means that my music stays on as long as it takes to wash my car.

to enable the service mode, just push the stop/start button for five seconds.

Ohh good one!!!! Cheers Goggles

[desh]

They advertise that the car is compatible with some iPods. Have you tried the obvious stuff, ie reset the device, turn of the mass storage option on it etc? Out of interest, is this the only issue you have with your VF? (you mention others have sound, air, computer issues)

Thanks. "Not compatible with all devices" - that problem disappeared when they said the problem was not related to the iPod "Classic". My issue is with the s/w not supporting proper "indexing" (it can play .WAV). Yes, I (and really good dealer service manager!!!) have performed numerous resets, s/w upgrades etc, and confirmed the problem can be repeated in their cars.

Other problems? From my memory.... External temp reading wrong. Interior temp control not working properly, Radio sound turns off, NAV POI's not turning off, Leak external mirror. Niggles included HUD not good when wearing polarized sunglasses, NAV colours (HSV version) really bad with r/g colour blind (and even though other colours available, they would not change "HSV" colours).
Note that most of these have been fixed with a number of computer updates.

[desh]

It's rather unproductive to think Apple related issues are all "Holden's problem". You'd also have to have a problem with every other brand of car available too if you wanted to pursue that sort of thinking...
No! I think you are painting with a rather broad brush. I am ONLY talking about the problems as I perceive with the iPod on the VF. Problems I do not habve with other cars.



Reckon if you tried a newer iPhone in your older cars you'd have some sort of functionality problem you'd be unhappy with too...
No, iPhone with latest IOS works quite well with older systems in older cars!
So, "you'd be unhappy" you reckon you know me as you are making statements on my behalf? That sort of statement/intimation is crap



Referring to Holden's website on MyLink compatability, they have only tested some iPhone models for Bluetooth compatability. Meaning they HAVEN'T confirmed any other products of Apple's will function as the buyer may wish.
This has nothing to do with Bluetooth!!! Never mentioned it.


Hence the image "cashie" posted up- "Not compatable with all products". Perhaps buyers SHOULD be testing these things before purchase if they matter so much. Saying this, if the car otherwise suits, perhaps it's better to get an Apple product tested for compatability than it is to bag a car for not suiting your existing phone/media device...
Actually, "Not compatible with all DEVICES". My issue is a s/w issue (indexing), it can play WAV, and in my opinion. for me, I thought that my stand was a reasonable one. You disagree, good for you!

[Wes Mantooth]

Just convert the .wavs to MP3s and get on with your life.

[VYBerlinaV8]

...anyways, to bring these coments back on thread, I wonder if we're being too harsh on the Commodore, the other AU built cars aren't that much better, if at all.

Which is probably why not as many people buy them.

I love big, fast cars, but I feel that the VF has far too many small features that I don't want that seem to cause people trouble.

[MLX]

I feel your pain.

I purchased a new Calais V (V6) 6 weeks ago. HUD wasnt working. Told to bring it back for rectifying the following in inner Sydney. Not rectified. Took it back a second time, told to bring back again, so I did. waited all day, told i cant have teh car back as the whole dash had been removed. Dealership gave me a Hyundai Accent as a temporary replacement. Got the car back again, and now HUD works, but the forward collision alert doesn't work now, the Lane departure warning doesn't work now, the alarm doesn't work, the remote start doesnt work, the remote boot opening doesnt work. Back it goes again. This time after I complain they give me a VF SV6. They bring the car back to me and looks as if everything is resolved. But it isnt. The drivers window is down and wont go back up, then the dash blacks out, resets almost immediately after driving it again the next day, and lo and behold the drivers window now works again. It bizarre. I lodged a complaint with Holden requesting a replacement car, 6 weeks old, multiple faults, less than 4000Km, and a Holden regional manager is inspecting it tomorrow. I will let you know the outcome, but I now have serious doubts about the electricals in this car now after multiple returns, and multiple issues arising. They fix fix one to only reveal another. Seriously not happy with this purchase at this point in time.

Further to this.... got the car back after a two weeks.... drivers side window motor and regulator were replaced, after engineers surmised that there was an electrical spike. Got a call from Holden Customer Care.... any further problems with the car? Happy now? No, not happy Holden. Its a brand new car with multiple faults, and instead of replacing it, it goes back repeatedly for warranty repairs, despite having issues from the very first day. I will never buy Holden again.... they coud have gotten it so right, but instead, got it soooooo wrong.... This car bugs me now, as I instead of enjoying it I am paranoid of what going to happen next with it..... Holden and the dealer sold me a lemon, but neither want to admit it.

[duaned]

+1. I feel exactly the same way!

[vyls1wa]

Ok, so not really a complaint, but got the car serviced today, and boot release buttons didn't work on the keys, soo... Gave em a call, now we've got to hold the button down for 2 seconds. Software update? Anyone else's the same?

[Smashfist]

Ok, so not really a complaint, but got the car serviced today, and boot release buttons didn't work on the keys, soo... Gave em a call, now we've got to hold the button down for 2 seconds. Software update? Anyone else's the same?

BCM software update - also added a key presence check so the car won't lock if keys are in it.

[vyls1wa]

Cheers, do you know what else was added

[cruro02]

Ok, so not really a complaint, but got the car serviced today, and boot release buttons didn't work on the keys, soo... Gave em a call, now we've got to hold the button down for 2 seconds. Software update? Anyone else's the same?

Had my VF Calais V serviced last Tuesday (15,000Km service) - noticed today that the boot wouldn't open with the key - just went out and tried the 2 second hold and it opened - would have been nice if they'd told me on Tuesday :(.

[Goggles]

Had my VF Calais V serviced last Tuesday (15,000Km service) - noticed today that the boot wouldn't open with the key - just went out and tried the 2 second hold and it opened - would have been nice if they'd told me on Tuesday :(.

I dont understand the logic of this change. Gonna be a pain if you are out in the pouring rain with an armful of groceries etc

[my_Berlina]

I dont understand the logic of this change. Gonna be a pain if you are out in the pouring rain with an armful of groceries etc

Having come back to my car about 8 times now to find the boot open. I think I understand it. Even with my VT, I found that if I squated near my car with my keys in my jeans pocket the boot would unlock. However with the GenF, the range is far greater (makes the remote start more useful). So climbing under a desk, or pulling up my pants in the loo opens my boot down in the car park. I have got into the habit of pressing the lock button (and listening for the boot/door open horn) every time I pass the stair well that leads to the car park.

Dave!

[Goggles]

Having come back to my car about 8 times now to find the boot open. I think I understand it. Even with my VT, I found that if I squated near my car with my keys in my jeans pocket the boot would unlock. However with the GenF, the range is far greater (makes the remote start more useful). So climbing under a desk, or pulling up my pants in the loo opens my boot down in the car park. I have got into the habit of pressing the lock button (and listening for the boot/door open horn) every time I pass the stair well that leads to the car park.

Dave!

fair enough. maybe this change should have been made optional like a few other features of the car (such as the time for lights to stay on when you leave the car etc)

[offshore]

The boot opening has happened to me a few times with the key in my pocket as i climb into the car

[johnfhall]

SO I came across a website that let’s GM check your software/programming for a given VIN. In my case, my VF GTS appears as a VF Calais.
Here’s how it works. Go to:-
https://tis2web.service.gm.com/tis2web
enter VIN
select Vauxhall or Holden (duh!)
A drop down list appears; I have them below. They start with a letter, and then numbers.
Some I have expanded… Feel free to look, I guess.

I found the K33 HVAC Control Module one:-
Refer Techline TL2331-1307 which addresses the following conditions:
- Feels too cold unless in high position
- Not enough increase in temperature when turned up
- Cabin temperature drifts cooler and needs to be adjusted

I definitely need that one done. The heater sh*ts me.

Anyhoo', here they are. I know no more of them!!

A11 Radio
Programming:-
Operational Software 92275124
Rear View Camera Calibration 92271872
Tuner Calibration 92273886
Audio Calibration 92273884
Equalizer Calibration 92273882
Illumination Calibration 92271956
System Calibration 92275695
Brand Calibration 92271970
Language Calibration 92271934
Button Calibration 92271954
A22 Radio Controls
Programming has 17 Hardware variations to choose from, which have 2 versions of Operational Software, with one only Calibration.
USB Copy has 13 different Copy file to USB versions…

A26 HVAC
Operational Software: 92294938
Calibration: 92266810

B218L Side Object Sensor Module - Left
B218R Side Object Sensor Module - Right
B219 Steering Wheel Angle Sensor Module
K101 Trailer Interface Control Module
K109 Frontview Camera Module
K17 Electronic Brake Control Module
K19 Suspension Control Module

K20 Engine Control Module
Main Software Calibration Module 12656942 CVN: D386
System Calibration Module 92274923 CVN: 506B
Fuel Calibration Module 92274921 CVN: BAF0
Speed Calibration Module 92275640 CVN: C953
Engine Diag. Calibration Module 92275638 CVN: 7110
Engine Calibration Module 92276173 CVN: 13DF
MHC Software Calibration Module 12625997 CVN: 1F46
MHC Calibration Module 92263533 CVN: 2E13

K33 HVAC Control Module
Operational Software 13594173 CVN: 00007876
System Calibration 92279066 CVN: 0000B57E
Airflow Calibration 92279067 CVN: 0000B9A4
Refer Techline TL2331-1307 which addresses the following conditions:
- Feels too cold unless in high position
- Not enough increase in temperature when turned up
- Cabin temperature drifts cooler and needs to be adjusted

K36 Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module
K38 Chassis Control module
K39 Liftgate Control Module
K40 Seat Memory Control Module
K43 Power Steering Control Module
K60 Steering Column Lock Module
K71 Transmission Control Module
K78 Head-Up Display Module
K83 Parking-Brake Control Module
K84 Keyless Entry Control Module
K86 Advanced Parking Assist Control Module

K9 Body Control Module
Operational Software 13594351
Vehicle System Calibration 92277754
Chassis Calibration 92276053
Charge and Energy Storage Calibration 92276224
Occupant Display Calibration 92276517
Automatic Extern Lighting Calibration 92276075
Manual Extern Lighting Calibration 92276092
Interior Lighting Calibration 92277758
Powertrain Calibration 92272127
Theft Deterent Calibration 92273239
LKG Calibration 92279321
Wiper Calibration 92272147
Auxiliary Alarm Sensing Control Calibration 13338869
Left Front Window Lifter 92269375
Right Front Window Lifter 92269376
Left Rear Window Lifter 13505709
Right Rear Window Lifter 13505710
Sunshade Controller 13505707
Sunroof Controller 13505708
HVAC Calibration 92272032
Prepare CM for removal 10002216
Config & Setup 10005070 92259650.xml

P16 Instrument Cluster
Z1 Immobilizer Function
Z4 Vehicle wide Capture of Module Identification Data

[planetdavo]

I dont understand the logic of this change. Gonna be a pain if you are out in the pouring rain with an armful of groceries etc

Previously the boot would open immediately after the remote boot release button was pressed,
this was causing some customers to assume that the boot had unintentionally opened, when in
fact the button had been accidently pressed.
The new software requires that the boot button on the remote to be held down for approx 1
second to open the boot.

[Goggles]

Previously the boot would open immediately after the remote boot release button was pressed,
this was causing some customers to assume that the boot had unintentionally opened, when in
fact the button had been accidently pressed.
The new software requires that the boot button on the remote to be held down for approx 1
second to open the boot.

Has never been an issue for me. Anyway getting the bcm update today. Wonder what else is changed by the update?

[planetdavo]

Has never been an issue for me. Anyway getting the bcm update today. Wonder what else is changed by the update?

It is perhaps worth adding for everyone's knowledge that this change is a production line change from 9/4/14, with ANY software upgrade of the BCM within a dealership from 7/4/14 introducing this change.

[ssv_redline]

I checked both VIN's for my previous R8 and my next R8and both appear to be from Calais donor cars.

[mjrandom]

All recent HSVs use a Calais base. The original VN was an Executive so not sure when it changed. I have had the boot open twice as a result of a "pocket" push. Happy to get it changed next service.

[jaykay]

The seat passed the roundabout tests so all good finally !!! :) :) :)

So not quite 6 months and my seat is doing the same thing again....so another unexpected trip to a dealer coming up and probably another 4 months waiting for a replacement seat base...:soap:

VF = Very Frustrating

[Number55]

So not quite 6 months and my seat is doing the same thing again....so another unexpected trip to a dealer coming up and probably another 4 months waiting for a replacement seat base...:soap:

VF = Very Frustrating

Looks like I will be doing the same.... Do u have a part No JK?

[planetdavo]

So not quite 6 months and my seat is doing the same thing again....so another unexpected trip to a dealer coming up and probably another 4 months waiting for a replacement seat base...:soap:

VF = Very Frustrating

There is a rework for these now that doesn't replace the seat base.
It involves the installation of a 13584324- Lateral Fastener Clip.
Plenty of stock is currently available.

[vyls1wa]

Yup, had mine done last week, can't say I've noticed any seat movement since

[Gregkalg]

Had my VF Calais V serviced last Tuesday (15,000Km service) - noticed today that the boot wouldn't open with the key - just went out and tried the 2 second hold and it opened - would have been nice if they'd told me on Tuesday :(.

I just joined the forum to try and find a solution to the same problem - just had a 30K service and key did not work for boot release - but does work with the 2 second hold - so already had useful info from forum after a few minutes - thanks guys.

[planetdavo]

I just joined the forum to try and find a solution to the same problem - just had a 30K service and key did not work for boot release - but does work with the 2 second hold - so already had useful info from forum after a few minutes - thanks guys.

Should be just over one second but "feels" longer due to the delay from the previous instant release (which was causing issues with apparent "random" boot releases via people usually sitting on the keys).
It would certainly be better if customers were told of this BCM upgrade, but I suspect the main reason many aren't is because the service advisors aren't actually informed by the tech's that the car required the software upgrade (as no customer request or problem description leads to it being on the repair order as a job).

[SSZ Ute]

Another recall for VE/VF owners for wiper motor
http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1060724

[Goggles]

Another recall for VE/VF owners for wiper motor
http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1060724
perfect timing as the rain hits canberra

[jaykay]

There is a rework for these now that doesn't replace the seat base.
It involves the installation of a 13584324- Lateral Fastener Clip.
Plenty of stock is currently available.

Spoke to my Service Manager today and they have the clips in stock so hopefully they can sort it next week...along with the wiper motor now

[planetdavo]

Another recall for VE/VF owners for wiper motor
http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1060724

Wiper motors have been a bit of a seller for a while now, so I'm not surprised. They get an internal short and fail.
This is what tends to happen when car manufacturers have to source parts from cheap Asian countries to keep pulling out cost to keep the consumers happy with low prices (and it happens with ALL mainstream brands). "Quality control" has a constant storm cloud hovering above it, waiting to unleash a storm one day...

[SSZ Ute]

Wiper motors have been a bit of a seller for a while now, so I'm not surprised..

planetdavo - any idea what is involved in replacing the wiper motor? Just hope they don't have to pull the dash apart and then I will get the usual rattles and creaks

[planetdavo]

planetdavo - any idea what is involved in replacing the wiper motor? Just hope they don't have to pull the dash apart and then I will get the usual rattles and creaks

The issue is caused by the asian supplier not greasing the internal gear as instructed- causing it to (potentially) fail. Obviously far more likely in a high rainfall location where usage of the wipers happens regularly.
Replacing it is fairly simple as it's contained underneath the plastic plenum covers forward of the windscreen lower.

[heavyduty1340]

My SSV ute went in for seat bases recall, and seat tensioner adjustments on Friday

I was heading out for dinner last night, and as I put the seatbalt on, I felt something sticky on the base of the seatbelt clasp - didnt think too much about it, then got out and went into the restaurant, only to notice a black dirty mark over the left side of my jacket.
When I got home, I shone a torch down the side of the drivers seat, only to see 3 or 4 ugly pieces of black gooey glue and aluminium tape - looks just like gutter flashing tape wtf??

I ring Holden this morning - Oh yeah - that was one of the recalls - stick 10cents worth of ali backed tape around the seat wiring??? - no sorry for ruining your jacket, or sorry for a third world quality job.

Anyone else had this dodgy recall?

[planetdavo]

My SSV ute went in for seat bases recall, and seat tensioner adjustments on Friday

I was heading out for dinner last night, and as I put the seatbalt on, I felt something sticky on the base of the seatbelt clasp - didnt think too much about it, then got out and went into the restaurant, only to notice a black dirty mark over the left side of my jacket.
When I got home, I shone a torch down the side of the drivers seat, only to see 3 or 4 ugly pieces of black gooey glue and aluminium tape - looks just like gutter flashing tape wtf??

I ring Holden this morning - Oh yeah - that was one of the recalls - stick 10cents worth of ali backed tape around the seat wiring??? - no sorry for ruining your jacket, or sorry for a third world quality job.

Anyone else had this dodgy recall?

That type of tape is used because it's super super sticky, but is gentle on the wiring (unlike cable ties done up tight that might cut into the wiring- or electrical tape that could unwind after repeated heat exposure from baking hot summers causes the adhesive to fail). It is only to keep the wiring from rubbing on a bolt, and is for the best part out of view, so it's function is far more important than it's form.
The dealer should at least offer to reimburse for dry cleaning or something similar, and have a quick look at the car to ensure any remnants are cleaned up. I'd suggest a chat with the service manager for a resolution.

[heavyduty1340]

Davo - that is a crap solution!!

What about a neat piece of convolutted tubing, or similar??

Honestly, this is not a good thing - it is in easy view in daylight

They had to pull the bloody seat out to change the base, why not have a piece of tubing to sleeve over the wires then??

2c pathetic job - who sticks this crap to a leather seat?

Even Hyundi or Kia wouldnt do this dodgey work

[planetdavo]

Davo - that is a crap solution!!

What about a neat piece of convolutted tubing, or similar??

Honestly, this is not a good thing - it is in easy view in daylight

They had to pull the bloody seat out to change the base, why not have a piece of tubing to sleeve over the wires then??

2c pathetic job - who sticks this crap to a leather seat?

Even Hyundi or Kia wouldnt do this dodgey work

You mean the same Hyundai that got dealers to drill holes in lower control arms in the past to rivet the two halves of the arm together as a recall?
You'd be quite surprised what goes on that could be intrepreted as "dodgy", but is actually pretty common.

[sjhugh]

Awful answer. Two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't matter what other manufacturers do, it's no excuse.

[planetdavo]

Awful answer. Two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't matter what other manufacturers do, it's no excuse.

Tough sh!t what you think of my answer. I did it to give another example of how the world works when it comes to reworks and recalls. Stuff involving tapes, foam strips, clips, cable ties and so forth is a regular occurance in the car industry when it comes to reworks and recalls. NO MATTER WHAT BRAND!
I'd be quite surprised if 99.5% of the population even noticed the addition of the tape. Obviously the sticky stalk and so forth are a different matter, as that's a quality control issue with the tech.
If someone isn't happy with the appearance or whatever of any rework or recall, they should talk to a higher authority about it (as I suggested earlier). Maybe the owner could discuss with the service manager if the job has been done EXACTLY as described in the bulletin. Is this why the tape is apparently so visible?
It's really not that hard to figure out...:rolleyes:

[C4B]

I did it to give another example of how the world works when it comes to reworks and recalls. Stuff involving tapes, foam strips, clips, cable ties and so forth is a regular occurance in the car industry when it comes to reworks and recalls. NO MATTER WHAT BRAND!

Pretty shocking endictment of the automotive industry if what you say is accurate.

[planetdavo]

Pretty shocking endictment of the automotive industry if what you say is accurate.

Not really.
Most "issues" are resolved relatively easily, and in the case of this seat wiring one, it's a fairly simple case of making sure the wiring harness can no longer rub the bolt in question. Hardly requires a whole new harness or whatever to fulfil that requirement, and it's far quicker to instigate the rework as it's using an existing tape product.
Factory build cars post breakpoint have a solution from the supplier now, and don't require reworking.

[Plenty]

Just got my GenF R8 today, absolutely love the car but there is already a couple of issues, I have a "service tyre pressure management system" error message come up on the centre screen. It was fitted with the SV wheels so I'm just wondering whether they forgot to reprogram the modules in??

The second one at it's annoying me cos it's a manufacturing fault, the usb ports, neither of them seem to be working and the icon on the mylink screen is shadowed so it cannot be used, i have tried other devices not just ipad but android as well. I have also tried the same devices on my dad's redline and all worked flawlessly. Any ideas what might be the problem? It's strange that it is both points not working.

Any ideas would be appreciated cheers

[mjrandom]

I had the recall and the latest updates done just before I flew out so I didn't take any notice of what was actually done around the seat belt stalks. If it is neat and unobtrusive I have no problem with tape and/foam. But I will have a close look when I get home.

[jaykay]

Had my car in a week ago to do the recall / bcm update.......get a letter today for another recall for the windscreen wiper motor issue.....,

[vyls1wa]

Yup phoned em up today to book it in, parts won't be in till end of august, maybe.

[sjhugh]

25,000 Commodores recalled to inspect seats

THE Holden Commodore has been recalled for the fifth time in three months — and for the third time in July alone — because the seat may wriggle loose.

The latest recall affects 25,055 Commodore sedans and Caprice limousines built between February 2013 and May 2014.

It means that almost 100,000 Holden Commodores have been called back to dealers this year alone.

A statement from Holden says some vehicles “may have been built with an incomplete weld on the front seat hook bracket assembly”.

“In an accident, if the weld is incomplete, the seat hook may separate from the seat track increasing the risk of occupant injury,” the Holden statement says.

The fault was identified by a worker on the Elizabeth production line near Adelaide, and inspections later found six cars with the incomplete weld.

Holden says there have been no reports of any accidents or injuries as a result of the fault.

Dealers have been instructed to inspect the welds and, if not correct, the seat base assembly will be replaced free-of-charge.

The latest Holden Commodore recall follows a safety campaign earlier this month because the LPG fuel system may cut out or catch fire.

Two recalls issued for separate faults on the same system affected 3,472 Commodores and Caprice sedans built between February 2011 and April 2014.

The recalls.gov.au website said one recall relates to the LPG system cutting out “posing an accident hazard to the driver and other road users” while a second recall for the same system was issued because the LPG fuel feed hose can leak and “may pose a fire hazard”, although Holden says the risk is low.

The latest recall brings Holden’s tally to eight so far this year, overtaking Toyota with a total of six recalls issued year-to-date.

Last month Holden recalled 27,000 Commodores because the windscreen wipers may not work properly, and in May Holden recalled 42,000 Commodores over a potential fault with the front seatbelts.

The Holden recalls in Australia come as its parent company General Motors comes under intense scrutiny from government regulators in North America for being slow to recall vehicles for a faulty ignition switch that has so far been linked to 13 deaths.

General Motors has admitted it had known about the ignition fault since 2004 but the first batch of 2.6 million potentially affected cars weren’t recalled until February 2014.

Earlier this month General Motors recalled a further 7.6 million cars dating back to 1997 to replace the potentially faulty ignition switch.

General Motors says it will offer to pay up to $1million to families of those who died as a result of an ignition switch defect that led to an airbag failure.

Holden cars sold in Australia are not affected by the ignition switch problems in the US, which can cause the engine to switch off unexpectedly and disable the airbags in a crash.

Holden has told News Corp Australia twice in the past month that a recall of the Chevrolet Camaro ignition switch in the US does not affect the Holden Commodore locally even though they share the same part.

“We can confirm that Holden vehicles sold in Australia are not affected by the same airbag and key rotation issues that have prompted vehicle recalls by GM North America to date,” said a statement from Holden.

This means Holden has so far avoided what would become Australia’s single biggest vehicle recall: every new generation Commodore sold since 2006, about 432,000 vehicles.

General Motors has issued 54 recalls in the US so far this year, covering about 28.9 million cars globally.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/technology/holden-commodore-recalled-for-fifth-time-in-three-months/story-fnjwq0cw-1226999120540

[jaykay]

I got the wiper recall the day after I had the car in for the earlier recalls.....now this so I might wait a little while and there may be more to go in for.

[planetdavo]

This recall is an expansion of an existing stop delivery notice on VF to inspect seat welds.
Like just about every recall for every brand, the usual media beatup is at play.
Whilst some (low in intelligence) punters have said "this is due to poor moral at the factory", it should be noted that this issue is caused by an overseas supplier not doing their job to specification 100% of the time.

[mjrandom]

So Davo if the previous recall has been done there is nothing else we need to do? I was a bit surprised that I received the wiper motor recall notice and when the dealer checked my car the notice didn't apply.

[planetdavo]

So Davo if the previous recall has been done there is nothing else we need to do? I was a bit surprised that I received the wiper motor recall notice and when the dealer checked my car the notice didn't apply.

Ultimately, the VIN will be flagged in the system for an outstanding recall/rework/campaign if something is still required to be done. Any dealer can do to check.
I can add a bit more comment about the wiper recall letter though.
Holden are still in the parts procurement stage, so nothing else is to be done yet unless an actual motor failure occurs.
In the event of that, some emergency stock is being held.

[sjhugh]

It appears this is not a fault identified just for vehicles coming out of the Elizabeth production line near Adelaide.



GM News – United States.

GM Announces Six Recalls for Varying Safety Issues

2014-07-23

DETROIT – General Motors today announced six safety recalls covering 717,949 recent model vehicles in the U.S.

“These recalls signify how we’ve enhanced our approach to safety,” said Jeff Boyer, vice president, Global Vehicle Safety. “We are bringing greater rigor and discipline to our analysis and decision making. If we identify an issue – large or small – that might affect the safety of our customers, we will act decisively.”

The recalls cover:

414,333
2011-2012 model year Chevrolet Camaro; 2010-2012 model year Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain; 2011-2012 Buick Regal and LaCrosse; and 2010-2012 Cadillac SRX models in the U.S. equipped with power height adjustable driver or front passenger seat structures. In these vehicles, the bolt that secures the height adjuster actuator may become loose or fall out. If the bolt falls out, the seat will move up and down freely because it is no longer attached at the height adjuster. The vehicles are safe to drive, but customers should not use the power height adjustable feature until dealers can replace the height adjuster bolt. GM is aware of one crash and three injuries but no fatalities related to this condition.

124,007
model year 2014 Chevrolet Caprice, 2014 Chevrolet SS, 2014-2015 Chevrolet Silverado LD and HD, 2013-2014 Cadillac ATS, 2014 Cadillac CTS, 2014 Cadillac ELR; 2013-2014 Buick Encore; and 2014-2015 GMC Sierra LD and HD vehicles because certain vehicles may have an incomplete weld on the seat hook bracket assembly. A loss of power to a laser welding machine may have resulted in an incomplete weld, according to data collected from the machine between July 2013 and January 2014. Dealers will inspect the weld. If it is sufficient, no further action is necessary. If it is insufficient, dealers will replace the lower seat track at no charge. Less than 1 percent of welds are expected to require seat track replacement. GM is unaware of any crashes or injuries as a result of this issue.

120,426
2011-2013 model year Buick Regal and 2013 model year Chevrolet Malibus equipped with front turn signals that use two bulbs in each front turn signal. While the driver would get a rapidly flashing turn signal arrow in the instrument cluster if both bulbs in one turn signal were burned out; if only one bulb on either side burns out, there would be no signal to the driver. Dealers will reprogram the body control module to fix the condition. GM knows of no crashes, injuries or complaints related to this issue.

57,242
2014 Chevrolet Impalas equipped with belt-drive electric power steering. On certain vehicles, customers may experience reduced or no power steering assist at start-up or while driving due to a poor electrical ground connection to the Power Steering Control Module. If power steering is lost, a warning message is displayed on the Driver Information Center and a chime sounds. Steering control can be maintained because the vehicle will revert to manual steering mode, but would require greater driver effort particularly at low vehicle speeds. Paint may have seeped behind the nut on the power steering control module ground stud. Dealers will inspect and clean paint from behind the ground nut, re-torque the nut and update the power steering control module software at no charge. GM is aware of one crash but no injuries or fatalities related to this condition.

1,919
2014-2015 Chevrolet Sparks imported from Korea that were assembled with a lower control arm bolt not fastened to specification. The condition could result in noise from the front suspension and separation of the lower control arm from the steering knuckle while driving resulting in loss of steering control. Dealers will inspect the left and right hand lower control arm attaching bolts to assure they are tightened to specification. GM knows of no crashes, injuries or fatalities related to this condition.

22
2015 model year Chevrolet Tahoe/Suburban and GMC Yukon/Yukon Denali vehicles in the U.S. In these vehicles, the roof carriers may have been attached with the wrong retaining nuts, resulting in holes or tears in the roof rail air bags if they deploy. Eight of these vehicles are in dealer stock and will be repaired before being sold.


http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2014/Jul/0723-recalls.html

[peejay6564]

Just got my GenF R8 today, absolutely love the car but there is already a couple of issues, I have a "service tyre pressure management system" error message come up on the centre screen. It was fitted with the SV wheels so I'm just wondering whether they forgot to reprogram the modules in??

The second one at it's annoying me cos it's a manufacturing fault, the usb ports, neither of them seem to be working and the icon on the mylink screen is shadowed so it cannot be used, i have tried other devices not just ipad but android as well. I have also tried the same devices on my dad's redline and all worked flawlessly. Any ideas what might be the problem? It's strange that it is both points not working.

Any ideas would be appreciated cheers

I had the same issue (service tyre pressure system) when I picked up my new r8 enhanced last week, so took it back in for most of the day yesterday. After the battery in the system was apparently replaced halfway home up it came again. When I got out of the car the newly fitted headlight protector was also hanging off, due to them forcing the tab under the headlight and snapping it off, combined with the metal strips not really locking into anything on top. Guess it will have to go back in again.......

[lethal66]

Damn , I've had my new gts nearly 3 weeks. Picked it up in brissy and drove it to Sydney then back home to qld. 3000 klms and not 1 fault with anything. It is def the best Hsv I've owned considering I've had quiet a few.

[GeeCee65]

Not sure if your issues have been solved but I had the same problems and this might be of help.
The heated Mirrors come on when the rear demister is on, although there is a symbol in the side mirror it doesnt actually illuminate ive been told, the only way i knew they were actually heating was by touch..?? Why have the symbol if it doesnt light up when they are on..?
I had my VF Calais V into the dealer several times explaining that the heated seats dont come on in remote start, they knew nothing and actually didnt know that this is an option that can be selected in configuration settings..? they then tried to tell me that all was working correctly which it wasnt. I then researched and found on a holden site that the Heated seats only come on in remote start when the outside temperature is less than 10degrees, Something that i would have thought would be in the owners manual which it isnt. I actually printed this and gave it to the Dealer to tell them how it works..?? you might think that a customer shouldnt have to tell them how their cars operate. I wonder how many vehicles have been into a dealer with this problem.

[mjrandom]

Sorry if this has been covered before. A mate asked for a photo of the front brake so I took one wheel off. I have plenty of good quality tools but thought I would use the stuff that was prepared earlier to see how it goes. The jack works and is almost fit for purpose but has anyone tried to use that bit of bent tinplate that is in the boot to undo a wheelnut letalone five? I bent mine into a lovely piece of modern art. Then discovered that the wheelnuts are to be done up to 190Nm! No wonder. So now I have a breaker bar and socket living in the back when I put the spare in for trips. I would love to see anyone use the supplied tool to get to a torque value of even half that.

[desh]

Every now and then, front speakers of my (Gen-F) Tourer cut out (radio only from rear speakers, no indicators (which is nice:-), none of the beeps I have no idea what it is going on about (even nicer)).
Have to turn car off and sometimes take key away from the car to get it to reset and start working again.
Has anyone else had this problem?

[Plenty]

A couple of things to note with my R8, had the steering wheel replaced as the leather was peeling in the top corner. Also had the drivers side boot lid tail lamp replaced as one of the LED's was blown. No other issues to report.

[Wes Mantooth]

So recently my Redline ute has randomly struggled to start. It throws up the "Service Front Camera" warning on the dash too. The other day when I pushed the start button, it lit up only a few of the dash lights at first and then fired up with a struggle.

Fast forward to 5am this morning and it refused to start at all when I went to leave work. The starter motor was trying but it wouldn't kick over. When I kept trying, it just ticked and the dash went a bit crazy, throwing up random warnings to service various things. Luckily I live within walking distance of work so I just hot footed it home. I'm about to wander back down and give it another crack, but has anyone else had this issue? The car is booked in at the local Holden dealer on Tuesday, but this is some weird shit.

[VFast]

So recently my Redline ute has randomly struggled to start. It throws up the "Service Front Camera" warning on the dash too. The other day when I pushed the start button, it lit up only a few of the dash lights at first and then fired up with a struggle.

Fast forward to 5am this morning and it refused to start at all when I went to leave work. The starter motor was trying but it wouldn't kick over. When I kept trying, it just ticked and the dash went a bit crazy, throwing up random warnings to service various things. Luckily I live within walking distance of work so I just hot footed it home. I'm about to wander back down and give it another crack, but has anyone else had this issue? The car is booked in at the local Holden dealer on Tuesday, but this is some weird shit.
Sounds like a battery issue to me?