VF Commodore/HSV Owner's Problems & Complaints

[black stallion]

I ordered a black v6 Calais V wagon late May and got it June 20.
Up to 4,100 klms on the clock now.
Fuel economy much better than the VEII SV6 wagon I traded. The car is whisper quiet inside.
Great features, love the parking and head up display.
The my link system is not as friendly as the VEII sound system. iPod shuffle won't stay selected and i don't use pandora.
Phone integration is superb as is the sound quality.
3 problems that so far, Holden technical cannot figure out.
1 heated mirrors will not work at all
2 seats will not heat on remote start at all
3 climate control on 26 is blisteringly hot and on 25 freezing cold.
Very frustrating on a $55k (with options) car. This is my third VE/F and has the most issues early up. (my first VE was an August 06 build, it was perfect)
The camera has gone to a fisheye instead of normal lenses, there are no distance markers on the display. But the new tail gate lock is far superior.
So a few positives and a few negatives, but I don't regret the purchase and would buy another in 2 years when this one gets traded.

[GRC888]

I ordered a black v6 Calais V wagon
3 climate control on 26 is blisteringly hot and on 25 freezing cold..

My WN Caprice V has a strange problem in that with the climate control on 23 degrees or more, the rear outlet temp is blistering hot and the console compartment is red hot to touch.

Has anyone else with a VF experienced similar. Sounds like a few climate control issues.

Thanks, Glenn

[krustyone]

My WN Caprice V has a strange problem in that with the climate control on 23 degrees or more, the rear outlet temp is blistering hot and the console compartment is red hot to touch.

Has anyone else with a VF experienced similar. Sounds like a few climate control issues.

Thanks, Glenn

Yep same. VF Calais V.
Heater on 30 just to try and extract warm air from the front and the console turns into a soup warmer.

Struggle to keep warm unless the heater is on 30 or HI.

[krustyone]

I ordered a black v6 Calais V wagon late May and got it June 20.
Up to 4,100 klms on the clock now.
Fuel economy much better than the VEII SV6 wagon I traded. The car is whisper quiet inside.
Great features, love the parking and head up display.
The my link system is not as friendly as the VEII sound system. iPod shuffle won't stay selected and i don't use pandora.
Phone integration is superb as is the sound quality.
3 problems that so far, Holden technical cannot figure out.
1 heated mirrors will not work at all
2 seats will not heat on remote start at all
3 climate control on 26 is blisteringly hot and on 25 freezing cold.
Very frustrating on a $55k (with options) car. This is my third VE/F and has the most issues early up. (my first VE was an August 06 build, it was perfect)
The camera has gone to a fisheye instead of normal lenses, there are no distance markers on the display. But the new tail gate lock is far superior.
So a few positives and a few negatives, but I don't regret the purchase and would buy another in 2 years when this one gets traded.

Just over 2k on the clock for my VF Calais V and is driving great.

1. Heated mirrors are no issues for me so far.
2. Seats will not heat on remote start.
3. I can only get blisteringly hot on HI. 30 degrees or less is freezing cold.

VE Calais V MY08 was a fantastic car.

[CLUBRED]

Since there's posts not refering to the specific purchase of a VF now, perhaps you guys need to start a VF Issues thread.

[whitels1ss]

Since there's posts not refering to the specific purchase of a VF now, perhaps you guys need to start a VF Issues thread.

Great idea mate, thanks, I have just moved all the posts over here and started a new thread exactly as you said:goodjob:

[Smashfist]

There's a software update for the heating/AC. Anyone with those issues should go back to their dealer and ask them to check the service fixes for a software update :)

[black stallion]

There's a software update for the heating/AC. Anyone with those issues should go back to their dealer and ask them to check the service fixes for a software update :)
Heartland told me they did this. Still no good. A CAS case is now open. Still waiting for Holden technical to respond.

[Deco28]

Sounds fortunate that i don't live in an area thats requires the heater... Hope they sought this problem out soon.

[planetdavo]

If a VF has had the software update the temp setting will only go up to 29 before going to HI.
If it hasn't had it, it will read 30 before going to HI.

[Drizt]

Being a software engineer, I can't believe something so trivial got through testing........

[planetdavo]

Being a software engineer, I can't believe something so trivial got through testing........

Why do SO MANY computer related issues get through testing- be it in cars, in PC's, in smartphones, or whatever? Pretty much always seems to be a matter of WHEN, rather than IF, something will go wrong. Maybe it'll just be a random crash, or maybe it'll be an inherent fault across the product.
So much for the claims people (used to) make about computers making like "easier" for everyone!

[Drizt]

Why do SO MANY computer related issues get through testing- be it in cars, in PC's, in smartphones, or whatever? Pretty much always seems to be a matter of WHEN, rather than IF, something will go wrong. Maybe it'll just be a random crash, or maybe it'll be an inherent fault across the product.
So much for the claims people (used to) make about computers making like "easier" for everyone!

This is a little more embarrassing than the regular corner case type bugs. I mean... did no one use the climate control in testing?

[team illucid]

This is a little more embarrassing than the regular corner case type bugs. I mean... did no one use the climate control in testing?

Agreed. This is a UAT failure as that is the final say on released software.

[planetdavo]

This is a little more embarrassing than the regular corner case type bugs. I mean... did no one use the climate control in testing?


As always, it is perhaps best we all wait for answers before starting the blame game.
With all sorts of reworks and recalls across ALL brands out there, clearly things can and do go wrong sometimes in the translation from pre-production engineering validation to actual mass production and public release... ;)

[offshore]

Sounds like it got through final testing and approved and then some one might have added a software update which subsequently caused this problem. Who knows but hope its fixed by the time i get mine Aug 6

[calais190]

I bought the first off the line series II SSV and the head unit (holden IQ system) was buggered. Did heaps of random things and after 3 failed software updates, a brand new unit was fitted, which fixed everything! Dodgy hardware in the end...

[GRC888]

Had my WN Caprice V in at a dealership today for its climate control problem.

Advised that software update was carried out and all was well.

However, 10 minutes down the road after having picked up the vehicle this afternoon, my wife reported that the problem of red hot air being directed to the rear vents and the entire console being hot to touch, while the front receives cold air when set on 21-27C, remains unresolved.

I rang the service manager immediately who then admitted that Holden CAS/TAS has no idea what is wrong.

Dealer has asked for the car to come back for up to 2 days, however, I will only do this if Holden's sends an engineer to diagnose.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks. Glenn

[offshore]

This is beginning to sound like a lot of cars being affected. I wont be accepting my car if its like that when its suppose to be ready on Aug 6.

[Deco28]

Either will I. how long does it usually take until the problem starts? I'll leave it idling in the dealer until I get signs...

[UTESRULE]

Thats why u dont buy the new model straight up until they have fixed all the problems others r getting happens with all new models

[black stallion]

Still waiting on Holden CAS to respond. Car now has 5,500 on the clock. No other issues, just want these ones fixed.

[bouka]

Temp sensor now in different place for cars coming down production line. Software patch available as mentioned but doesn't seem to be working.

[Vulture]

Is there some vacuum operated flap that is not working or something?

[CLUBRED]

If the sensor has been moved then there's a good chance the computer was doing it's job but getting the wrong info.

[GRC888]

Is there some vacuum operated flap that is not working or something?

Good guess.

Took my W Caprice V back to the dealer for their second attempt to diagnose and fix after failing yesterday.

Miracle of all miracles... Problem resolved.

Apparently an actuation rod was not fully closing off an air flow flap so hot air was continuing to flow through without being mixed with fresh or air conditioned cool air.

Cool air is now exiting normally from the rear passenger air vents when set on 21-25C and warm from 26-29C.

Cheers,

Glenn

[morpheousssv]

an old 1967 fault resurfaces lol

[black stallion]

Good guess.

Took my W Caprice V back to the dealer for their second attempt to diagnose and fix after failing yesterday.

Miracle of all miracles... Problem resolved.

Apparently an actuation rod was not fully closing off an air flow flap so hot air was continuing to flow through without being mixed with fresh or air conditioned cool air.

Cool air is now exiting normally from the rear passenger air vents when set on 21-25C and warm from 26-29C.

Cheers,

Glenn

You are lucky Glenn. Holden CAS called me today to say Holden tech still had NFI. I tod them about others having problems, about how Holden changed the location etc. nothing back, was just like tumbleweeds. Really getting jack of this. A $55k car should work properly. My VE2 had the iQ system fail on numerous occasions, so it really appears Holden just cannot get thing right. After owing 5 Holden's in the past 10 years, I think this will be my last.

[Plenty]

You are lucky Glenn. Holden CAS called me today to say Holden tech still had NFI. I tod them about others having problems, about how Holden changed the location etc. nothing back, was just like tumbleweeds. Really getting jack of this. A $55k car should work properly. My VE2 had the iQ system fail on numerous occasions, so it really appears Holden just cannot get thing right. After owing 5 Holden's in the past 10 years, I think this will be my last.

You purchased the very first lot of a new car, what did you expect?

[black stallion]

The first VE I had was an Aug 06 build. It was near perfect. Never a problem. The issues have come later. I expect manufacturers to get it right. The cop out excuse of being a new model doesn't appear to affect others.

[Smashfist]

The first VE I had was an Aug 06 build. It was near perfect. Never a problem. The issues have come later. I expect manufacturers to get it right. The cop out excuse of being a new model doesn't appear to affect others.

You got lucky with your VE then. Give them some time, the whole electrical system is new - probably the biggest electrical change in 15 years.

[BLACKVE]

The first VE I had was an Aug 06 build. It was near perfect. Never a problem. The issues have come later. I expect manufacturers to get it right. The cop out excuse of being a new model doesn't appear to affect others.

Same here 06 sep build SS no dramas at all, in fact out of the 4 VE's only a electrical relay on my daily Berlina at 95000kms.

Hope for holdens sake the VF isn't a lemon(Ve had a/c dramas, balancer wobbling and various other issues), i'd hate for my new car to have dramas

[black stallion]

Car going to a different dealer on the 31st. CAS still unable to provide a solution.
My gut feel is the controller for the HVAC or one of the sensors is faulty. On 23 yesterday, the air was so hot, i had to turn it off.

[Crusty]

Anyone notice if the gap between dash and the front doors is different between the passenger and drivers side? I can fit my little finger in the gap on the drivers side but it's only about 1-2mm on the passenger side, almost like the entire dash is slightly too far to the left.

[jaykay]

Split radiator hose losing majority of the coolant........4 days and still waiting for a replacement hose to come from Holden in Melbourne.... 560km on the clock....

[Vulture]

Split radiator hose losing majority of the coolant........4 days and still waiting for a replacement hose to come from Holden in Melbourne.... 560km on the clock....

Hmm, would have thought you would be back on the road by now.
Surely they could send one courier.

[zorro]

Split radiator hose losing majority of the coolant........4 days and still waiting for a replacement hose to come from Holden in Melbourne.... 560km on the clock....

Speechless, a part that would be plentiful & on a car that is literally the last hurrah of Australian manufacturing to leave a buyer in that situation is ridiculous, for any manufacturer really


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[offshore]

So when I pick my car up in a week or so id better order a full set of hoses just in case lol

[vyls1wa]

Anyone notice if the gap between dash and the front doors is different between the passenger and drivers side? I can fit my little finger in the gap on the drivers side but it's only about 1-2mm on the passenger side, almost like the entire dash is slightly too far to the left.

Mate I picked mine up this morning, cars V, and dash is dead centre, about 4mm either side.

But sadly I have small issues with mine.

Condensation in the headlights

Detailed left tape on the car

The front headlights have the clear metallic over sprayed on them, can see and feel. Opon further inspection the whole front of the cars body work is rough, car simply hadn't been clay blocked, I got mine out and did a small section and it came up good. I never really checked it at the dealer as it was passing down hard.

In the calais there are blue led lights just above the internal door handle, drivers side doesn't work.


Other than that I love the car, the HUD is awesome, from all the navigation, radio and car info it gives ya to even the g metre.

[Crusty]

Anyone notice if the gap between dash and the front doors is different between the passenger and drivers side? I can fit my little finger in the gap on the drivers side but it's only about 1-2mm on the passenger side, almost like the entire dash is slightly too far to the left.

Well I just looked on the Holden website and in the gallery of the interior pictures it appears that all the VF's are built that way as the gaps are clearly different on each of the model photos.

[black stallion]

I am well and truly over this car.
Wakelings could not determine why the mirrors wont heat and why the seat wont heat upon remote start. "No errors on the computer" is all they could tell me.
Then they tried to tell me they only work under 10 degrees C. Well, my car was covered in ice 3 days last week and neither function worked.
As for the HVAC, "no errors on the computer" was all they could tell me. 7,100 klms on the clock now. My leg has been burnt twice from the console being so hot as the rear temperature could not be controlled.
Off to NSW Fair Trading now. This is not $55K well spent. My enthusiasm for the brand has diminished now to such an extent, I doubt any more Holdens will be in my garage. (I have had 5 in the last 10 or so years) It has gone beyond the faults, the complete lack of customer service and support has taken my experience too far.

[GRC888]

Did they look for warm air flap actuating rod fault?

This was how my Caprice V's hot console/hot rear air vents problem was described.

Still sounds like a variation of my problem.

Have your dealer consult with Patterson Cheney, Vermont, Victoria.

Cheers, Glenn

[Drizt]

It really is a joke.

[Vulture]

It has gone beyond the faults, the complete lack of customer service and support has taken my experience too far.

So that's all they can tell you "no computer faults". Sounds extremely lazy. The faults are clearly there and they need to chase them up regardless that "computer says no". :weirdo:
Imagine if it was a $100K GTS? As you've mentioned, it's not just that there is a fault, most people can forgive that, it's how the company responds. Holden needs to learn from customer service found in companies like Apple etc.

[Vulture]

You purchased the very first lot of a new car, what did you expect?

He expected it to work or if not, fixed promptly. Not an unreasonable expectation.

[whitels1ss]

Condensation in the headlights

Detailed left tape on the car

The front headlights have the clear metallic over sprayed on them, can see and feel. Opon further inspection the whole front of the cars body work is rough,

Does not sound like factory paint mate.
Sounds more like it might have been damaged in transit and patched up by a mobile touch up guy before you picked it up.

[IJ.]

Does not sound like factory paint mate.
Sounds more like it might have been damaged in transit and patched up by a mobile touch up guy before you picked it up.
Was thinking the same thing... Headlights aren't with the car when it's painted... :(

[vyls1wa]

Yup exactly what I was thinking. Car is naked when it gets sprayed at factory

[IJ.]

Yup exactly what I was thinking. Car is naked when it gets sprayed at factory
Bare minimum I'd expect is for them to have the car professionally detailed...

[vyls1wa]

Well they got all the photos and video (run a cloth over it and you can hear it).

Waiting to hear back from them

[CLUBRED]

Does not sound like factory paint mate.
Sounds more like it might have been damaged in transit and patched up by a mobile touch up guy before you picked it up.

Or it was parked near a car that was. Happens all the time, they'll do touch ups on trade ins out in the lot.

[BLU50L]

Why am i not surprised with Wakelings. Have bought a few cars of them and there service centre is absolute garbage. Every single service they'd ring up trying to upsell injector cleaning.

[whitels1ss]

Or it was parked near a car that was. Happens all the time, they'll do touch ups on trade ins out in the lot.

Could have been but I doubt it, the guy posted he had to remove some masking tape from the headlights.
Surely nobody would mask up only the headlamps on a brand new car if they were painting another car near it,
they would move it away.;)

[CLUBRED]

Could have been but I doubt it, the guy posted he had to remove some masking tape from the headlights.
Surely nobody would mask up only the headlamps on a brand new car if they were painting another car near it,
they would move it away.;)

Not always, have seen cars lined up next to each other getting done, in fact just recently (they did tape the cars up sitting next to the one getting painted - fixing bumper scrapes). When I worked at a dealer back VS era they'd line all the used Clubsports up and spray the front bar inserts etc grey to make them look like GTS's. Just saying it happens.

[vyls1wa]

Tape was on the Lowe lip front bumper and lower left wing, and it wasn't masking tape. Was maybe more the tape that they may use to hold the plastic wraps the use.

[VFast]

Tape was on the Lowe lip front bumper and lower left wing, and it wasn't masking tape. Was maybe more the tape that they may use to hold the plastic wraps the use.
Any response from the dealer yet?

[Short_Duration]

Tape was on the Lowe lip front bumper and lower left wing, and it wasn't masking tape. Was maybe more the tape that they may use to hold the plastic wraps the use.

Might be transport tape used to protect paintwork during transport and hasn't been removed properly at the time of pre delivery inspection.

[VYBerlinaV8]

Might be transport tape used to protect paintwork during transport and hasn't been removed properly at the time of pre delivery inspection.

When I bought my wife the Barina Spark 2 years ago it came with plastic wrapping still around the steering column height adjust, window washer bottle dry, plastic wrapping rubbish jammed in the glovebox and dirty carpet. I'm sure Holden dealers are doing it tough but it's hard tp support them when they drop the ball like this. The sales guy delivering the car to me was mortified.

[vyls1wa]

Nothing from dealer yet, will call tomorrow.

[black stallion]

I have 2 further gremlins with my Calais v.
Friday the my link system shut down while driving, reset itself, shut down again, then back to normal.
The Saturday while using my iPhone to play music, went to make a call, the music played continuously. Pulled over, turned car off, opened door, waited, re started and all was fine.
Holden took the car today as I voiced my complaints to a very senior person at Holden.
Confirmed that rear temp exceeds front temp by over 20 degrees. They are working on this.
The seats do heat on remote start. But, only for a short time on low. Hence why it fees like they don't work on remote start. Nothing in owners annual about that!
Holden tech took mirrors apart and they work ok. Yet, last week with outside temp at 3 degrees, nothing was happening, Ongoing review.
Good to know the Holden engineer could replicate my issue with the HVAC. Not the same issue or repair that another member had fixed at Paterson Cheney.

[vyls1wa]

Well I had a call from the dealer today, they have gotten an external detailer in to fix the paint, being done Wednesday so will be interesting what the wife says when she picks it up.

[cashie]

Well I had a call from the dealer today, they have gotten an external detailer in to fix the paint, being done Wednesday so will be interesting what the wife says when she picks it up.

Did they say how there was clear on the headlights and how the paint was in that state?

[jaykay]

I have two issues popped up...

1. The brake light strip at the top of the rear window has dropped down on the RHS so the strip is on an angle. Looks like the adhesive used to hold the strip up has let go,

2. When I corner and the body momentum moves in the seat something under the leather is moving under my ass...it is a bit offputting when cornering.

First service oops I mean first inspection list started...

[Crusty]

I have two issues popped up...

1. The brake light strip at the top of the rear window has dropped down on the RHS so the strip is on an angle. Looks like the adhesive used to hold the strip up has let go,

2. When I corner and the body momentum moves in the seat something under the leather is moving under my ass...it is a bit offputting when cornering.

First service oops I mean first inspection list started...

I too have noticed the corner thing with the seat, and yes it is off putting as I can't make it do it unless I go around the corner. It's like there is something inside the seat rolling about.

[D_BLOCK]

I had my windows tinted today and asked the guys to see what they would upgrade audio wise if given the chance, 1st on the list would be getting the dead
6" speaker in the drivers door going lol. I didnt even notice. So I played with the balance and fade etc.. and sure enough the tweeter by the window works but not the door speaker.
Just teething problems I guess.

[VFast]

I too have noticed the corner thing with the seat, and yes it is off putting as I can't make it do it unless I go around the corner. It's like there is something inside the seat rolling about.
I wonder if this is related to seat structure or spec... I.E. will it effect all VF/Gen-F seats or perhaps ony those with electric adjustment or those wih luxury spec heating etc.

Do the SSV Redline have the heating like the Calais does?

[jaykay]

I too have noticed the corner thing with the seat, and yes it is off putting as I can't make it do it unless I go around the corner. It's like there is something inside the seat rolling about.

Glad to see I am not the only one with the seat issue...can you guys check the brake light on the rear window...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/jkgmh/VF%202013/image_zps490f74e8.jpg

[ssv402]

You are lucky Glenn. Holden CAS called me today to say Holden tech still had NFI. I tod them about others having problems, about how Holden changed the location etc. nothing back, was just like tumbleweeds. Really getting jack of this. A $55k car should work properly. My VE2 had the iQ system fail on numerous occasions, so it really appears Holden just cannot get thing right. After owing 5 Holden's in the past 10 years, I think this will be my last.

Try a different dealership or go to someone you can trust :) but being a new model it is a matter of being patient, until they figure out what the fix is with new issues.

[jaykay]

I wonder if this is related to seat structure or spec... I.E. will it effect all VF/Gen-F seats or perhaps ony those with electric adjustment or those wih luxury spec heating etc.

Do the SSV Redline have the heating like the Calais does?

Only Calais V has heated seats...

[PreferRX]

HI All,

enjoying my VF SS Sportwagon. only a few small gremlins. 1 might be user error though haha.

1. randomly the Mylink deletes the pairing of my iphone, has happened 4 times in 5 weeks? can redo the pairing and its ok but still not great and obviously a fault..

2. the text to speech feature doesnt work with my iphone 5 updated all the way to IOS 6.1.4, i thought this might be a compatiblitly issue as it says "text messaging not available for this phone"

3. there seems to be a small noise/vibration that is intermittent when cruising at around the 80kph mark, it sounds/feels like running over the ripple strip on the edge of a freeway (not quite as violent) but seems to be getting a little more frequent and a little worse. has 5,000k's on it.

has ayone experienced anything like this?

Kind Regards
PreferRX

[GRC888]

HI All,

enjoying my VF SS Sportwagon. only a few small gremlins. 1 might be user error though haha.

1. randomly the Mylink deletes the pairing of my iphone, has happened 4 times in 5 weeks? can redo the pairing and its ok but still not great and obviously a fault..

Same with my WN Caprice V and iPhone5.
2. the text to speech feature doesnt work with my iphone 5 updated all the way to IOS 6.1.4, i thought this might be a compatiblitly issue as it says "text messaging not available for this phone"

Holden says doesn't work with iPhone but does with Android phones. iPhone may work in future with software upgrade, perhaps iOS 7. 3. there seems to be a small noise/vibration that is intermittent when cruising at around the 80kph mark, it sounds/feels like running over the ripple strip on the edge of a freeway (not quite as violent) but seems to be getting a little more frequent and a little worse. has 5,000k's on it.

That is the AFM cutting in and out between 4 and 8 cylinder mode. No longer have trip computer indication of AFM operation so can only tell by change in driveline noise/vibration.has ayone experienced anything like this?

Kind Regards
PreferRX

Cheers,

Glenn

[jaykay]

When I started my car this morning a "service front camera" warning came up. I had no front collision warning or lane change warning working. When the engine was turned off and restarted the fault had cleared itself. Let's see how it goes on next start up.

[Crusty]

When I started my car this morning a "service front camera" warning came up. I had no front collision warning or lane change warning working. When the engine was turned off and restarted the fault had cleared itself. Let's see how it goes on next start up.

I'd say it should log a fault code that Holden could check. Mine is going in for its 3000k inspection today and I'm asking them to check the HVAC software. My brake light isn't perfectly level but isn't falling away like yours but will ask them to double check it. Not sure wether to bother about the seat thing.

[jaykay]

I'd say it should log a fault code that Holden could check. Mine is going in for its 3000k inspection today and I'm asking them to check the HVAC software. My brake light isn't perfectly level but isn't falling away like yours but will ask them to double check it. Not sure wether to bother about the seat thing.

Tell them about the seat issue, at least it is logged as an issue on their system. I'd be interested in what they say about it because I will be telling them to sort mine out. I have never had that happen before, however I have never had heated seats so can't really comment.

[Crusty]

Tell them about the seat issue, at least it is logged as an issue on their system. I'd be interested in what they say about it because I will be telling them to sort mine out. I have never had that happen before, however I have never had heated seats so can't really comment.

Good point, I'll do that.

[Vfzarb]

My 3000Km Service is coming up. is it worth Calling Holden in advance to let them know the list of issues with the car so that when i actually take the car in. They should be aware of any problems before hand?

[jaykay]

My 3000Km Service is coming up. is it worth Calling Holden in advance to let them know the list of issues with the car so that when i actually take the car in. They should be aware of any problems before hand?

I have notified my Service Manager of my ongoing issues. Doubt anything will come of it until they get the car there. Just keeping the "disappointment" in his face.

[VFast]

J
Tell them about the seat issue, at least it is logged as an issue on their system. I'd be interested in what they say about it because I will e telling them to sort mine out. I have never had that happen before, however I have never had heated seats so can't really comment.
John are you thinking that it might be related to the heating system now?

[jaykay]

J
John are you thinking that it might be related to the heating system now?

Not really, just that two Calais V owners have the same issue and they have heated seats. Let's see if anyone without heated seats has the issue :idea:

[Crusty]

Not really, just that two Calais V owners have the same issue and they have heated seats. Let's see if anyone without heated seats has the issue :idea:

I have a Redline so no heated seats. I told them about it and they just looked at me like I was bonkers so not sure I'll get anywhere with that. Also asked about the HVAC update to which they said there is none at all but will check it out anyway.

[Crusty]

I have a Redline so no heated seats. I told them about it and they just looked at me like I was bonkers so not sure I'll get anywhere with that. Also asked about the HVAC update to which they said there is none at all but will check it out anyway.

Ok so they did find the update for HVAC and now it goes from 29 to HI instead of 30 so its definitely been updated. I'm driving it a fair distance tomorrow so will report back. The seat thing was a "no fault found" they did take it for a drive and tried to see what I was on about but weren't able to replicate it.

[PreferRX]

Thank you Glenn, that definitely provides some clarity. hopefully they patch these issue soon! as for AFM, i'll just keep it in sportsmode haha :)

[black stallion]

Some updates on my issues. Car has just clocked up 10,000 klms.
HVAC - took Holden Tech (not a dealer tech) 2 days to rectify. Rear was 20 degrees hotter than front. A revised part was fitted to my car and will be fitted to all future VF production.
Heated seats on remote start - the owners manual does not state this, but they do come on at the lowest possible setting, for 1 minute, provided ambient is less than 10 degrees. Does not take the chill off, so seems pointless.
Heater mirrors - no indication of operation. Operation appears random. Today with ambient at 3 degrees, they worked. Other days with ambient at 5 degrees, after 1.5 klms of driving, nothing was happening.
Mylink shutting down - new software coming end of August.
Ipod still playing tracks when using phone - new software coming end of August.
Fuel economy is great, car is very quiet, but starting to get some rattles. Auto also starting to rough shift down in sports mode. A really annoying function of Mylink is to forget settings. Each time I plug the phone in, I have to check the shuffle option or the music plays from A-Z.

[vyls1wa]

Just another issue to add.

Drivers mirror will no longer dip in reverse, moves around fine when adjusting.

Fuel economy not as low as I was hoping I guess, don't 900ks now and won't go lower than 12L, avg speed is 30.9. That's a v6,hope it will come down when it gets a little more loose.

[jaykay]

Just another issue to add.

Drivers mirror will no longer dip in reverse, moves around fine when adjusting.

Fuel economy not as low as I was hoping I guess, don't 900ks now and won't go lower than 12L, avg speed is 30.9. That's a v6,hope it will come down when it gets a little more loose.

Drivers mirror, thought it was only the passenger mirror that dipped ? I turned mine off from dipping as it annoyed me when reversing out the driveway, I couldnt see the car on the passenger side in the mirror

[D_BLOCK]

I'll add to the list again.
I previously mentioned the drivers door speaker is dead, well also when listening to the radio it goes quiet for 1-2 seconds and its not the station.This has happened the last 3 times I've driven it and approx 5 times in total now. Also I detailed the ute today and noticed the rear badge is peeling away from the top.It looks as if the glue isint strong enough to maintain the shape of the curved tailgate its attached to.

jas.

[vyls1wa]

Drivers mirror, thought it was only the passenger mirror that dipped ? I turned mine off from dipping as it annoyed me when reversing out the driveway, I couldnt see the car on the passenger side in the mirror

Yeh john, both mine dipped.

What's the economy everyone is getting, v6 or v8 including avg speed

[jaykay]

Is anyone else thinking that the issues occurring may be a result of the cost cutting to get the rrp down ? It is concerning to me :(

[jaykay]

Yeh john, both mine dipped.

What's the economy everyone is getting, v6 or v8 including avg speed

V8 - 1,400 km average speed 55km/h and 11.1 l/100km

[vyls1wa]

11.1,damn that's good.

12.2 done 900km avg 30.9. 3.6l v6

[jaykay]

When cruising on the motorway to and from work at 110 it sits on 7.5...

[Deco28]

When cruising on the motorway to and from work at 110 it sits on 7.5...

That's great. Shouldn't be in the complaint thread haha

[Bens Calais V]

I ordered a black v6 Calais V wagon late May and got it June 20.
Up to 4,100 klms on the clock now.
Fuel economy much better than the VEII SV6 wagon I traded. The car is whisper quiet inside.
Great features, love the parking and head up display.
The my link system is not as friendly as the VEII sound system. iPod shuffle won't stay selected and i don't use pandora.
Phone integration is superb as is the sound quality.
3 problems that so far, Holden technical cannot figure out.
1 heated mirrors will not work at all
2 seats will not heat on remote start at all
3 climate control on 26 is blisteringly hot and on 25 freezing cold.
Very frustrating on a $55k (with options) car. This is my third VE/F and has the most issues early up. (my first VE was an August 06 build, it was perfect)
The camera has gone to a fisheye instead of normal lenses, there are no distance markers on the display. But the new tail gate lock is far superior.
So a few positives and a few negatives, but I don't regret the purchase and would buy another in 2 years when this one gets traded.


Just Bought a VF Calais V V8 Black Sports Wagon.
Love Love Love the Car.
I have same problem,
Heated Mirrors don't work
Heated seats wont remote start,
And the climate control just does not work at all.
Sort of nice to know its not just mine, but scary to think it is most of them.
I bought a Calais V For Comfort yet the climate control does not work which really effects the comfort.
Has this been fixed for you?
Also the V8 is really lacking of power, struggle to beat a Ford Falcon Straight 6 no Turbo on a straight.
Otherwise overall is an amazing car.
If Anyone has made an official complaint to Holden can you post a link so I may join the queue.

[Bens Calais V]

I noticed that some has mentioned that the Drivers side mirror tilts as well?
Is this a setting I have missed some where in the absence of my brain?

[jaykay]

I noticed that some has mentioned that the Drivers side mirror tilts as well?
Is this a setting I have missed some where in the absence of my brain?

Only my passenger mirror tilts...which I have turned off as it shits me

[Bens Calais V]

Only my passenger mirror tilts...which I have turned off as it shits me

I've had another problem where if I have a CD in the slot it will continue to Eject the CD around every 3-5minutes.
Only 1700Kms on the Car so have not yet been for first service.
Has anyone else had this problem?
20 million dollars went into making this car, you'd think these issues would be sorted out before they rolled them out.

[Smashfist]

Latest news out - campaign for a software update for VF HVACs. Give us a yell if you want me to check if your vehicle is affected :)

[VFast]

Latest news out - campaign for a software update for VF HVACs. Give us a yell if you want me to check if your vehicle is affected :)
Good news!!!
Are the effected vehicles built before a certain date or is there another factor?

[DanielSS-V]

People value hardware because they can feel it and touch it. When you tell management that good software costs a lot more then the hardware they never accept it. So they cut the budget and the problems begin. Add that many quite talented developers also like to make things overly complicated and some teams get into a pissing contest about what over engineered design and development methodology and tools they will use and well.... you get buggy software.

[dmov]

Latest news out - campaign for a software update for VF HVACs. Give us a yell if you want me to check if your vehicle is affected :)

Forgive me, new to this, but what is HVAC.

[Smashfist]

Forgive me, new to this, but what is HVAC.

Heating, ventilation and air conditioning. Basically climate control.

[dmov]

Heating, ventilation and air conditioning. Basically climate control.

Thanks for that. Appreciated. My redline ute is available for pick up but I won't be taking delivery until grand final day. Should I ask for this software upgrade to be done before delivery?

[Bens Calais V]

Has Anyone had the update, earlier in the pages someone mentions the Climate Control Heading from 29 to Hi. No 30 Degrees.
Did actually make 21-24 degrees comfortable?
Has anyone heard if there is an update for MyLink?
listening to Music has never been so frustrating since hand crank radios.

[Crusty]

Has Anyone had the update, earlier in the pages someone mentions the Climate Control Heading from 29 to Hi. No 30 Degrees.
Did actually make 21-24 degrees comfortable?
Has anyone heard if there is an update for MyLink?
listening to Music has never been so frustrating since hand crank radios.

I've had my climate updated and it certainly made a difference. Haven't heard of any updates for MyLink. I'd like to know if anyone else with the electric drivers seat is feeling something "moving" in the seat around corners. My local dealership couldn't "fault" it so mine is still doing it.

[jaykay]

I've had my climate updated and it certainly made a difference. Haven't heard of any updates for MyLink. I'd like to know if anyone else with the electric drivers seat is feeling something "moving" in the seat around corners. My local dealership couldn't "fault" it so mine is still doing it.

Mine goes in next Monday so will see if they can find the fault with the seat movement..........

[Bens Calais V]

Awesome Does your Climate Control Top Out at 29 Degrees Now?
My Only Drama with the Seat is when I am getting out of the car.
The Case over the first button pops off. Only little and quite annoying.
I will take some quick corners and have a feel to see if there is anything.

[Crusty]

Awesome Does your Climate Control Top Out at 29 Degrees Now?
My Only Drama with the Seat is when I am getting out of the car.
The Case over the first button pops off. Only little and quite annoying.
I will take some quick corners and have a feel to see if there is anything.

Yep Climate doesn't go to 30 now like it used to.

[jaykay]

Just got a call from the Dealership.....rear brake light has been put back into its correct position via not being fitted properly at factory....and they were able to replicate the seat movement issue and are ordering a new base for the seat so I will come back another time when it is in so they can replace it.

Also the HVAC software update has been done as well as an oil change as per my request. It is not included in the free inspection @ 3,000km.

They have been very thorough after the radiator hose saga..... :goodjob:

[Crusty]

Just got a call from the Dealership.....rear brake light has been put back into its correct position via not being fitted properly at factory....and they were able to replicate the seat movement issue and are ordering a new base for the seat so I will come back another time when it is in so they can replace it.

Also the HVAC software update has been done as well as an oil change as per my request. It is not included in the free inspection @ 3,000km.

They have been very thorough after the radiator hose saga..... :goodjob:

I'd be interested to see if it fixes your seat base issue so I can push my dealership harder to sort it. Do you know what oil they used as I'm thinking of changing mine?

[VFast]

Just got a call from the Dealership.....rear brake light has been put back into its correct position via not being fitted properly at factory....and they were able to replicate the seat movement issue and are ordering a new base for the seat so I will come back another time when it is in so they can replace it.

Also the HVAC software update has been done as well as an oil change as per my request. It is not included in the free inspection @ 3,000km.

They have been very thorough after the radiator hose saga..... :goodjob:
Glad to hear you are getting better service than the earlier dramas...

Can you confirm that the AC update now limits the hot setting to 29deg? I am picking up my SSV end of the week so want to be able to confirm if the salesman has had this updated as per my request...

[dmov]

How long should the HVAC software update take? I am picking my Redline ute up on grand final day. I emailed the dealer asking for the update to be completed before delivery and have , as yet, had no reply. If it has not been done by the day I pick it up, can it be done while I wait?

[jaykay]

The HVAC software update is a campaign bulletin 13-SU-02 so I assume that it should be done before you pick the car up but worth making sure it has been done.

[farkford]

Is there anyway you can check what software version is the latest?

[Vfzarb]

i've had all the software updates to my HVAC system so far and still no good. Still getting cool air blowing out of front vents when set to say 25c, and the years blowing air above 32c. (holden techs recorded this as well). so waiting to hear back from holden now. Also my radio issue is still there. they cant seem to figure out why the reception is going bad.

Ryan

[VFast]

Tape was on the Lowe lip front bumper and lower left wing, and it wasn't masking tape. Was maybe more the tape that they may use to hold the plastic wraps the use.
When I viewed my car the week prior to pickup mine had a bunch of light blue transparent tape around the lower bumpers and skirts etc. not sure if same as what you found but am sure it was a protective tape of sorts.

[Scottn1au]

I had the remains of blue tape stuck to my ute that I noticed first time I washed it. A few bits stuck in around the flutes on the front guards, must of gone in the too hard basket. I also have the HVAC problem that everyone else seems to have. I hope they get a fix all sorted out properly before I take it in for my first service.

[Scottn1au]

Another annoyance/complaint is that if you have satnav installed you don't get pause and play buttons for listening to songs on CD's, USB's etc.

[vyls1wa]

Well the car had its first service yesterday.

Replaced headlight, the blue light from the drivers side internal door hand is missing the harness altogether so that's on order and the sunroof was reprogrammed because the wind deflector that pops up at the front rose up about 40mm and was noisy aswell.

In regards to the hvac, it's been fine no issues at all.

[offshore]

I noticed with mine one night when i adjusted the drivers seat with the forward most button the head lights dimmed very slightly when the switch was activated to move the seat

[Twitch]

I noticed with mine one night when i adjusted the drivers seat with the forward most button the head lights dimmed very slightly when the switch was activated to move the seat

Was the engine running/at idle. I think you will find this is normal because it is an electric motor used to adjust the seat. You would probably find the lights also dimmed if you used the power windows.

Twitch

[offshore]

Was the engine running/at idle. I think you will find this is normal because it is an electric motor used to adjust the seat. You would probably find the lights also dimmed if you used the power windows.

Twitch

Yea was idle only just noticed it havnt seen that before with other new cars though was normal with old cars.

[Black X]

All the guys with the A/C issues, when did you pick up your car and are they all Calais'?

I picked my redline up in August and the A/C is fine and looks to have had the software update you're talking about.

[jaykay]

All the guys with the A/C issues, when did you pick up your car and are they all Calais'?

I picked my redline up in August and the A/C is fine and looks to have had the software update you're talking about.

I have a Calais V and have had nil issues with my A/C....even though the dealer did the software update at the first inspection

[jaykay]

Delays in Redline production cause Holden to go overseas for wheels even though former wheel supplier ROH wheels are 25km away from their factory.... :hmmm:

http://www.news.com.au/business/companies/holden-airfreights-wheels-in-from-us-as-factory-25km-away-misses-out/story-fnda1bsz-1226727159052

On another note my replacement seat base was ordered 2&1/2 weeks ago with a possible arrival in Melbourne mid October but no guarantee on that..so in the meantime I have to drive the car with basically a farked seat....well only when cornering. If I go straight it is fine :lol:

[CLUBRED]

At first I was a bit WTF myself, until:


Holden’s factory in the Adelaide suburb of Elizabeth stopped sourcing wheels from ROH in the nearby suburb of Woodville North in 2005, after General Motors switched to global suppliers in China and Taiwan.

Sounds like a whinge to me, or an 8 year grudge.

[HOTSV8]

Dealer called me the other day and said my redline should be another 4 to 5 weeks away . Ordered about 30 august . jkgmh , just keep going up and down the M1 .

[jaykay]

Dealer called me the other day and said my redline should be another 4 to 5 weeks away . Ordered about 30 august . jkgmh , just keep going up and down the M1 .

:lmao: I will and do every day

[Crusty]

Delays in Redline production cause Holden to go overseas for wheels even though former wheel supplier ROH wheels are 25km away from their factory.... :hmmm:

http://www.news.com.au/business/companies/holden-airfreights-wheels-in-from-us-as-factory-25km-away-misses-out/story-fnda1bsz-1226727159052

On another note my replacement seat base was ordered 2&1/2 weeks ago with a possible arrival in Melbourne mid October but no guarantee on that..so in the meantime I have to drive the car with basically a farked seat....well only when cornering. If I go straight it is fine :lol:

My seat base is really starting to annoy me it seems much worse now that it was so I think I'll have to bite the bullet and take it back in.

[jaykay]

My seat base is really starting to annoy me it seems much worse now that it was so I think I'll have to bite the bullet and take it back in.

Mine has got worse since the dealer had it 2&1/2 weeks ago so get in with yours because as you can see it seems like it is a long lead item to get a replacement in....

[Krizto]

I'm also having a heap of issues with the A/C, on Lo is can be boiling hot or stone cold and there is no rhyme or reason for it? Also had an issue with both the head lights fogging up on the inside after I drove it in the wet/ cold for the first time, and there is a bit of a shaking when sitting at the lights.

[Goggles]

Dealer called me the other day and said my redline should be another 4 to 5 weeks away . Ordered about 30 august . jkgmh , just keep going up and down the M1 .

at the moment, mine is still due at the dealer on Oct 10. I ordered mine two weeks ago.

[Goggles]

At first I was a bit WTF myself, until:



Sounds like a whinge to me, or an 8 year grudge.

yep, just look at the author of the article.

oh and the VF SSV Redline is not the most expensive Commodore, that would be the Calais V V8

[Twitch]

yep, just look at the author of the article.

oh and the VF SSV Redline is not the most expensive Commodore, that would be the Calais V V8

You are only correct if you get a manual redline. With the auto it is more the the Calais V V8

[Twitch]

at the moment, mine is still due at the dealer on Oct 10. I ordered mine two weeks ago.

How you get yours in 4 weeks :( I ordered 12 July and don't think I will get it before mid Oct. Will have to harass deler again.

[Goggles]

How you get yours in 4 weeks :( I ordered 12 July and don't think I will get it before mid Oct. Will have to harass deler again.

walked into a dealer who had what I wanted already on order. all they had to do was change the colour.

[mr_hz]

So picked up our Calais V V8 wagon, on Saturday. Have not had the chance to put many km's on it yet, but wow what a nice car. Love the heads up display, interior and silky smooth transmission. Climate control works fine so far, with no issue that we have found. Only things to pick on is the exhaust note, there is none, sounds like a 4cyl lol Also to open the fuel cap you just press on the lid which we found a little strange in a car like this. Other then that we are very happy.

[Bens Calais V]

So picked up our Calais V V8 wagon, on Saturday. Have not had the chance to put many km's on it yet, but wow what a nice car. Love the heads up display, interior and silky smooth transmission. Climate control works fine so far, with no issue that we have found. Only things to pick on is the exhaust note, there is none, sounds like a 4cyl lol Also to open the fuel cap you just press on the lid which we found a little strange in a car like this. Other then that we are very happy.

Hi I have a Calais V V8 Wagon As well, Picked up around middle of August.
What Max Temperature do you have?
Also have you found it to be a little lacking in power for a V8?

[mr_hz]

Not sure about the max temp, will have a look and get back to you.
Does not lack power, has plenty of go, just does not sound the way a big V8 should.

[black stallion]

My HVAC issue has returned. Car had 15,000 klm service and the dealer must have reset something.
Back to Holden again. Rear is pumping 15-20 degrees hotter than front.
Car now has 19,000 on the clock.

[Vfzarb]

My HVAC issue has returned. Car had 15,000 klm service and the dealer must have reset something.
Back to Holden again. Rear is pumping 15-20 degrees hotter than front.
Car now has 19,000 on the clock.

My HVAC issues have not been resolved yet. I cant understand why it is so hard for them to diagnose and fix.

[NickS]

Also to open the fuel cap you just press on the lid which we found a little strange in a car like this.

Every recent BMW and Merc I have ever driven works the same way ... press to open, press to close, auto locks with the car. It sounds like you're saying you expected something better ?

[mattnsw]

Yeah, pressing the lid is far better than feeling around the bottom of the seat for a lever.

[Drizt]

Every recent BMW and Merc I have ever driven works the same way ... press to open, press to close, auto locks with the car. It sounds like you're saying you expected something better ?

When I first got my VE I was unaware of the push to open. I must have looked like a dickhead at the servo when I couldn't figure out where the latch to open it was :lmao:

[CLUBRED]

When I first got my VE I was unaware of the push to open. I must have looked like a dickhead at the servo when I couldn't figure out where the latch to open it was :lmao:

This was me when I had my first BMW, had to drive up the road and ring a mate :lmao: :hide:

[NickS]

When I first got my VE I was unaware of the push to open. I must have looked like a dickhead at the servo when I couldn't figure out where the latch to open it was :lmao:

VERY common story ... but to be honest I don't think I have owned a car with an internal fuel release button / lever for close to 10 years. Basically everything these days uses the push to open method.

[Micks]

My HVAC issues have not been resolved yet. I cant understand why it is so hard for them to diagnose and fix.
Cause there a bunch of d**kheads mate! They're still getting their heads round the VT's ffs!

[Bens Calais V]

Cause there a bunch of d**kheads mate! They're still getting their heads round the VT's ffs!

Really Lol I thought they were still trying to figure out what went wrong with the VS.

So ive heard and seen proposed drawings of a new Monaro.
Does anyone know if this is true or not?

[jaykay]

Let's keep the thread on topic without the name calling...

[Wonky]

So ive heard and seen proposed drawings of a new Monaro.
Does anyone know if this is true or not?

Apparently done as an exercise by a couple of designers. Holden say no hope of production..... :(

[VFast]

Ok, first couple of issues identified...
#1 Driving along today using satnav - nav screen map disappears and screen goes black. Navigation graphics and symbols still there but no map. Voice commands died at the same time too. Screen eventually blacks out totally and appears to reboot with Holden mylink boot screen appearing and then back to normal.

#2 screen freezes when trying to enter commands during navigation. Got sick of waiting for it to respond so I turned ignition off and restarted. All reset back to normal.

apart from that the car has been faultless.

has anyone else experienced the above issues?

[dmov]

Ok, first couple of issues identified...
#1 Driving along today using satnav - nav screen map disappears and screen goes black. Navigation graphics and symbols still there but no map. Voice commands died at the same time too. Screen eventually blacks out totally and appears to reboot with Holden mylink boot screen appearing and then back to normal.

#2 screen freezes when trying to enter commands during navigation. Got sick of waiting for it to respond so I turned ignition off and restarted. All reset back to normal.


apart from that the car has been faultless.



has anyone else experienced the above issues?

I picked up my Redline ute last Saturday. Impeccable drive but a few technical issues. iPod connectivity is poor. Huge lag time between music choice made and when mylink decides to find it. Sometimes upward of two minutes. Then, music choice is incorrect. Secondly, from time to time, the radio/whatever music you are listening to will cease as if a mute button has been hit. That can last a few minutes until other buttons are hit to change the source of music. I am also having issues with the rear speakers. They do not work. Have tried fade and balance and no noise coming from them at all. I did request the HVAC update to be done and I believe it was as the max temp is now 29, however, I am still getting cold air at 25 and very hot at 26 degrees. These are somewhat minor and maybe to be expected on a new vehicle and will no doubt be fixed under warranty. It's just that after waiting so long to get it, you do not want to have to spend time getting it back to the dealer for repairs not to mention that these are issues I am having straight off the bat rather than them appearing two or three months down the track. I will update people on how these issues are dealt with.........

[Scottn1au]

I picked up my Redline ute last Saturday. Impeccable drive but a few technical issues. iPod connectivity is poor. Huge lag time between music choice made and when mylink decides to find it. Sometimes upward of two minutes. Then, music choice is incorrect. Secondly, from time to time, the radio/whatever music you are listening to will cease as if a mute button has been hit. That can last a few minutes until other buttons are hit to change the source of music. I am also having issues with the rear speakers. They do not work. Have tried fade and balance and no noise coming from them at all. I did request the HVAC update to be done and I believe it was as the max temp is now 29, however, I am still getting cold air at 25 and very hot at 26 degrees. These are somewhat minor and maybe to be expected on a new vehicle and will no doubt be fixed under warranty. It's just that after waiting so long to get it, you do not want to have to spend time getting it back to the dealer for repairs not to mention that these are issues I am having straight off the bat rather than them appearing two or three months down the track. I will update people on how these issues are dealt with.........

Ok so I just went and checked the rear speakers in my ute. Seems I can only get bass sound coming from them, like having a sub woofer thats not a sub woofer. My climate control is the same too, has had the update but cold air at 25 and hot at 26.

I'd be interested to know if other VF Ute owners can get sound from rear speakers. It's hard to tell with the other cabin speakers working, I did not notice until I read the last post and went and stuck my ear right next to the rear speaker.

[dmov]

Ok so I just went and checked the rear speakers in my ute. Seems I can only get bass sound coming from them, like having a sub woofer thats not a sub woofer. My climate control is the same too, has had the update but cold air at 25 and hot at 26.

I'd be interested to know if other VF Ute owners can get sound from rear speakers. It's hard to tell with the other cabin speakers working, I did not notice until I read the last post and went and stuck my ear right next to the rear speaker.

If you want to check if the rear speakers are working, just adjust the fader from front to back. If the rears are working, you will hear sound move from front to back. Same with checking left or right speaker, simply adjust balance. I have no sound from either rear speaker, left or right.

[Scottn1au]

If you want to check if the rear speakers are working, just adjust the fader from front to back. If the rears are working, you will hear sound move from front to back. Same with checking left or right speaker, simply adjust balance. I have no sound from either rear speaker, left or right.

If I fade to rear I have no sound from any speakers. But if I fade to centre or forward I have sound from front speakers and some bass from rear speakers I'm sure. If I place my hand over the rear speaker I can feel it. Unless I can just feel the vibrations through the car to the rear speaker. It is quite difficult to get your ear right up against the speaker with the seat somewhat in the way. I will have another listen in the morning when my hearing is fresher and not sufferering industrial deafness.

[mr_hz]

Hi I have a Calais V V8 Wagon As well, Picked up around middle of August.
What Max Temperature do you have?
Also have you found it to be a little lacking in power for a V8?

Ok tested the temp properly yesterday, max temp is 30. Set at 24 it's perfectly warm, drop it to say 20 and it's nice and cool. So it works the way I would expect, this is a Sept built car if that makes any difference.
Cheers.

[dmov]

I am having no luck. Passenger inside door handle gave up today after literally being used ten times. Cannot open door from inside. Handle attached but no tension.....
Still no return call from the dealer.......

[BLACKVE]

VF starting to look a bit of a lemon.... MY sep 06 VE had nil problems. I do remember lots of people having battery drain problems though.

Hope holden get some fixes on the climate dramas sorted, but to have speakers not working etc sounds like the system isn't sorted

[vyls1wa]

Or shit not getting plug in, theres a section of the loom missing on our calais

[CLUBRED]

Why would you want rear speakers in a ute playing anything other than sub-sonics?

[dmov]

[QUOTE=CLUBRED;2095849]Why would you want rear speakers in a ute playing anything other than sub-sonics?[/QU

If they are there, they should work. Simple.

[Wes Mantooth]

Checked yesterday and turns out my rear speakers aren't working either. Fun times.

[Vulture]

Anyone else with a VF sedan only get bass from the rear parcel shelf speakers? I've had someone else check it and theirs is the same but is this right to only get bass out of those two large speakers?

[Drizt]

In the VE they were subs only ????

[CLUBRED]

Yes, they are 8" subs only, I have seen them removed (from VF). I can't confirm yet they're wired in phase though unlike VE.

[Vulture]

Cheers thanks

[vfblack]

Picked up my redline today and definitely bass only from rear speakers.
I'm rapped with the car. Couple of tiny things, just nit picking.
No compartment to keep coins. HUD is slightly crooked.
Also when I open the door from the inside, I hear this buzz. Sounds like its electrical. Can someone tell me what this is?

[NickS]

VF starting to look a bit of a lemon.... MY sep 06 VE had nil problems.

Then you got lucky ... all new cars have little niggles, it's no big deal. I'd hardly say it's a lemon ... it's getting rave reviews, selling like hot cakes and everyone that has posted in here has said "absolutely love the car, one or two little things ..."

My 2006 GTS had a few bugs ... DVD screen didn't work, blinker went crazy ... still loved the car.

[Vulture]

Anyone else experiencing "service side detection system" errors and "service steering lock errors"? :(

[Crusty]

Anyone else experiencing "service side detection system" errors and "service steering lock errors"? :(


Yep steering lock errors about 5 times so far.

[jaykay]

The only issue I am having occassionally is the front collision warning going off for no apparent reason. It is annoying when on the motorway @ 110km/h because it taps the brakes so cruise control disengages.

Also I am into the 6th week of waiting for the replacement drivers seat base. It is really bad now and feels like springs are moving any which way they want when cornering. I try and stick to straighter roads :lol:

The seat base is supposedly due in Melbourne on Monday so let's see if it is because then going on the radiator hose saga it could be another week or more until it arrives up here....

[vfblack]

steering lock error once

[Vulture]

Sounds like there are some common electrical gremlins. I also get a blind zone error and that will stop working.

[Vulture]

blinker went crazy ... still loved the car.

I had that crazy blinker problem as well. I wonder if that is why HSV decided not to use LED indicators this time?

[Bens Calais V]

Well Just picked my Calais V Wagon up from service yesterday.
Noticing more power and grunt, though the transmission has become slightly more clunky.
The HVAC has improved a lot, 24 is comfortable as it should be and MAX temp is 29 then HI.
MR_HZ I would say yours needs the update or RECALL as Holden put it yesterday because max temp will be 29 degrees after update.

[Bens Calais V]

Having the same issue with the Front Collision Warning going off for no reason. Not a big problem just a tiny nuisance. I put it down to bugs hitting the windscreen where the camera is.

[Wes Mantooth]

The only issue I am having occassionally is the front collision warning going off for no apparent reason.

This thing is really starting to annoy me. I have it set to the shortest distance for when I park nose in to a wall or fence at work and it doesn't go off at all. But when I leave work , it goes apeshit as I'm going out the driveway and it detects the road. Stupid bloody thing.

[mjrandom]

I am only guessing but I think the collision alert works on rate of change too rather than just distance. Mine is set for maximum distance and it will happily show a green icon far closer to my car than if I approach a car that is stopped or waiting to turn. The only time it gave me a what the moment was when it picked up the Armco on the outside of a corner. Otherwise I am ok with it so far. I suspect I will turn it off when I go tracking.

[Aus8]

Steering lock twice.

[vfblack]

Has anyone had issues closing the bonnet. Mine is a bitch to close. I had to slam the shit out of it in the end

[Wes Mantooth]

I am only guessing but I think the collision alert works on rate of change too rather than just distance. Mine is set for maximum distance and it will happily show a green icon far closer to my car than if I approach a car that is stopped or waiting to turn. The only time it gave me a what the moment was when it picked up the Armco on the outside of a corner. Otherwise I am ok with it so far. I suspect I will turn it off when I go tracking.

Rate of change doesn't explain my situation though because I have to leave the (very steep) driveway at work very slowly due to the angle. I would be travelling faster trying to judge the distance to the wall or fence than when exiting the driveway.

[vyls1wa]

I've had no issues with the collision alert, only sometime it picks up a car pulling on to the lane next to me from a side street. Only thing I question with it is when it goes amber even at maximum distance your well and truly tailgating

[Twitch]

I was going around a left hand curved road today and an oncoming vehicle triggered the collision alert. Hopefully they can fine tune it in the future.
It must not have detected that I was still in my lane and the other vehicle in theirs.

[Wonky]

Thank God it doesn't apply the brakes as some systems do! :shock: Maybe the next generation will when they've used all you guys as test bunnies! :D

[offshore]

Im more worried about the electric park brake flying around a bend and have that come on could be in for some interesting sideways action haha

[vyls1wa]

Im more worried about the electric park brake flying around a bend and have that come on could be in for some interesting sideways action haha

Been discussed in another thread, I emailed Holden about it, it's hooked up to the esc so in case you do need to use it it will bring you to a safe stop. Glad that wasn't over looked

[VFast]

Anyone else with a VF sedan only get bass from the rear parcel shelf speakers? I've had someone else check it and theirs is the same but is this right to only get bass out of those two large speakers?
My SSV seems to be setup the same with bass only from rear shelf speakers. Would love to hear what the audiophiles comments on the VF setup is???

The system does sound pretty good to me though!

[D_BLOCK]

Well my drivers door speaker problem is now fixed, turns out it was never connected from the factory. Also received the now mandatory HVAC update,
so hopefully it doesnt create any problems as it was fine before hand. I opted for an oil change even though the utes just clicked over 1100km. Was looked
after well in that regard, paid for parts only so wallets only $100 lighter.

overall good experience.

jas

[vyls1wa]

My wife asked the dealer about the hvac update, to which she was informed that you will be notified by mail if the car needs a software update, which I find kinda odd, what he couldn't answer was if the car was already up to date

[D_BLOCK]

I just checked mine and assuming the top version in the menu is the latest, and it should be as the numbers to the left seem to be climbing.
Todays update included 11 updates in total finishing with this one 23172127 version E2.0E.13.30 .

[DanielSS-V]

I just checked mine and assuming the top version in the menu is the latest, and it should be as the numbers to the left seem to be climbing.
Todays update included 11 updates in total finishing with this one 23172127 version E2.0E.13.30 .

D_Block how do you bring up this info? Would be interested to see what my car says.

Thanks,
Dan

[Krizto]

Latest news out - campaign for a software update for VF HVACs. Give us a yell if you want me to check if your vehicle is affected :)

Count me in, what you need to know?

[offshore]

I tested the electric handbrake today at speed. It comes on locks the rears for a fraction of second and then comes off and a message appears on the small screen. Not sure what it says though forgot to pay attention to it. Ill test a slowish speed hand brake turn tomorrow it may work on dirt but not sure if it will on bitumen. Closed road always lol.

[Krizto]

Has anyone had success with their seat moving around when contouring? Going to raise it at the 3k check along with the A/C, rough idle and drivers tail light having something loose in it.

CJ

[jaykay]

Has anyone had success with their seat moving around when contouring? Going to raise it at the 3k check along with the A/C, rough idle and drivers tail light having something loose in it.

CJ

Yep I have been waiting 6 weeks for a replacement seat base, was told yesterday it is now due end of this month.....

[D_BLOCK]

D_Block how do you bring up this info? Would be interested to see what my car says.

Thanks,
Dan

Hey Dan this is how I navigate to it.

Press Home,more,config,radio settings,software versions menu.
Hope that helps.

jas

[vfblack]

Has anyone had success with their seat moving around when contouring? Going to raise it at the 3k check along with the A/C, rough idle and drivers tail light having something loose in it.

CJ

I can feel it too, feels like there is golf balls in it

[Wes Mantooth]

Checked yesterday and turns out my rear speakers aren't working either. Fun times.

So I took my ute in and according to Holden, the rears are subwoofers. Though for some reason you simply cannot hear them if you set the fade all the way to the rear, even with the bass set to maximum.

[vyls1wa]

So I took my ute in and according to Holden, the rears are subwoofers. Though for some reason you simply cannot hear them if you set the fade all the way to the rear, even with the bass set to maximum.

Completely agree, weak. Which is why I'm considering upgrading them to balance the stereo out more

[Vulture]

So I took my ute in and according to Holden, the rears are subwoofers. Though for some reason you simply cannot hear them if you set the fade all the way to the rear, even with the bass set to maximum.

Is there some sore of adjustment on the amp? I recall on my E2 Senator you could adjust the subwoofer with a little dial in the boot.

[Plenty]

So I took my ute in and according to Holden, the rears are subwoofers. Though for some reason you simply cannot hear them if you set the fade all the way to the rear, even with the bass set to maximum.

Swap the polarity on the Sub woofers, it made a helluva a difference on my VE SS-V...... Oh and turn the gain up on the amp.

[Krizto]

I just checked mine and assuming the top version in the menu is the latest, and it should be as the numbers to the left seem to be climbing.
Todays update included 11 updates in total finishing with this one 23172127 version E2.0E.13.30 .

How do you know which one reefer's to the AC?

2702

2703

2704

[D_BLOCK]

How do you know which one reefer's to the AC?

2702

2703

2704

Im not sure if there is just one specific update or if its a series of them to bring the vehicle up to date in regards to the HVAC but my understanding is
the number E2.0E.13.30 and the ones that proceed it were only to do with the HVAC. There was no mention of any other component needing an update.

If SMASHFIST reads this can you ask the boys in service if this is the case.

[Ausmartin1]

Swap the polarity on the Sub woofers, it made a helluva a difference on my VE SS-V...... Oh and turn the gain up on the amp.

Very Valid point made above ....
First check the polarity, for some reasons car Somalia manufactured looms on the other car brand Ford - always seems to get them round the wrong way by the time it reached the speakers.
When swapped - turned music from sounding completely dead to alive...

God I hope Holden aren't using Ford horror loom supplier.... eek!

[VFast]

Swap the polarity on the Sub woofers, it made a helluva a difference on my VE SS-V...... Oh and turn the gain up on the amp.
Does the VF SSV have an amp that can be adjusted?

[Vulture]

Very Valid point made above ....
First check the polarity, for some reasons car Somalia manufactured looms on the other car brand Ford - always seems to get them round the wrong way by the time it reached the speakers.
When swapped - turned music from sounding completely dead to alive...

God I hope Holden aren't using Ford horror loom supplier.... eek!

How do you tell if they are the wrong way around?

[SSINISTER]

not sure if it has been covered but the shop across from work has 2 vf utes, one is a sv6 and the other ss. Both of there utes has been stripped of there interior as the aircon overflow pipe was kinked when installed resulting in water build up in cab.

[Krizto]

Does the VF SSV have an amp that can be adjusted?

Where are the amps? I've heard they're in the boot on the passenger side behind the battery but haven't tried to pull the carpet out yet.

[vyls1wa]

Where are the amps? I've heard they're in the boot on the passenger side behind the battery but haven't tried to pull the carpet out yet.

It is on the drivers side rear corner behind the panel.

No there's no adjustment on the amp, I pulled it out to check, haven't swap the polarity over yet though.

On a different matter, earlier I had a cry about the over spray on the car on not all to happy with the dealerships attempt to fix it so I took it to Des from autofx (perth) for a quote on paint correction.

What surprised both of us was the varying thickness of the paint.

Boot and bonnet were 120 microns but the drivers side of the car at top of door panel was 145 and dropped to 115 by the bottom of the door, with the passengers side ranging from 135 to 120 with the lower side of the car being lower.

According to Des Holden is meant to be pretty consistent with their spray on VE and was surprised with the inconsistency if the thickness. The paint in this car is our biggest let down for us, so the car is booked in for the correction to get rid of the dealerships attempt of removing the over spray by adding a millions scratches to the car.

[vfblack]

anyone had trouble closing there bonnet

[Vulture]

anyone had trouble closing there bonnet

If you just let it drop from about 20% open, is it still hard?

[D_BLOCK]

Still on the topic of seat issues. Has anyone noticed how fast the leather strip on the drivers side, closest to the thigh, is wearing out fast?
Mines just clicked over 1300km and at this rate is going to need a new seat at 10k. Im only 92kg and fit so its not like im a sloth getting in and
out ,so im abit annoyed about that.

[cfour]

If you just let it drop from about 20% open, is it still hard?

First time I opened the bonnet I just lowered it down slowly and tried to push down.... no good, then realised you have to drop it as per above :)

[vfblack]

Sweet. Thanks fellas, I had the same issue, had to drop it, cant lower and push down

[Plenty]

Sweet. Thanks fellas, I had the same issue, had to drop it, cant lower and push down

They have done this to prevent the soft Aluminium bonnet from denting when being lent on. It's been a common technique across manufacturers for some time now.

[NickS]

Sweet. Thanks fellas, I had the same issue, had to drop it, cant lower and push down

I was taught to drop the bonnet 20 years ago ... if you lower it and push you end up with hand prints on your bonnet and quite often a dent!

[vfblack]

They have done this to prevent the soft Aluminium bonnet from denting when being lent on. It's been a common technique across manufacturers for some time now.

Cool. Thanks

[GTS LSA]

I was taught to drop the bonnet 20 years ago ... if you lower it and push you end up with hand prints on your bonnet and quite often a dent!

yep been doing this since 90's... man I must be getting old :(

[jaykay]

yep been doing this since 90's... man I must be getting old :(

Well look how many years you have aged waiting for your GTS :teach:

[GTS LSA]

true, but i will be young again soon....................... in my own mind :up2sum:

[Bens Calais V]

Still on the topic of seat issues. Has anyone noticed how fast the leather strip on the drivers side, closest to the thigh, is wearing out fast?
Mines just clicked over 1300km and at this rate is going to need a new seat at 10k. Im only 92kg and fit so its not like im a sloth getting in and
out ,so im abit annoyed about that.

Yes I have a Calais V Sportswagon, and not only is the seat starting to wear but getting in and out cause's A. The first electric adjuster button on the Drivers seat to pop off and B. The whole plastic side panel facing the drivers door is constantly coming off. BTW I'm only at 3200Kms

[jaykay]

Yes I have a Calais V Sportswagon, and not only is the seat starting to wear but getting in and out cause's A. The first electric adjuster button on the Drivers seat to pop off and B. The whole plastic side panel facing the drivers door is constantly coming off. BTW I'm only at 3200Kms

What did the service guys say at your 3,000 inspection ?

[D_BLOCK]

Yes I have a Calais V Sportswagon, and not only is the seat starting to wear but getting in and out cause's A. The first electric adjuster button on the Drivers seat to pop off and B. The whole plastic side panel facing the drivers door is constantly coming off. BTW I'm only at 3200Kms
The side fascia was a problem on the VE also untill a revised (note stronger plastic) version came around. The joys of a new model eh.

[cfour]

Noticed a slight rattle from the sunroof cover of my Redline when going over bumpy stuff...

[farkford]

Where are the amps? I've heard they're in the boot on the passenger side behind the battery but haven't tried to pull the carpet out yet.

Finally gone mine back and always suspected an issue with the rears, just nothing when you adjust the fader. Does anyone know where the amp is in a ute?
The other issue I have is with the screen sometimes it displays to the nav and other times it displays the source. I am playing music on a USB stick and sometimes it goes back to the song from the trip before, seems to have a mind of its own.

[Vfzarb]

Noticed a slight rattle from the sunroof cover of my Redline when going over bumpy stuff...

I worked that out today too!!! I was driving and getting an annoying rattle, at first i thought it was the passenger side seat belt assembly causing it. I then shut the sunroof cover and it stopped. Just another item to add to the list.

[dmov]

Finally gone mine back and always suspected an issue with the rears, just nothing when you adjust the fader. Does anyone know where the amp is in a ute?
The other issue I have is with the screen sometimes it displays to the nav and other times it displays the source. I am playing music on a USB stick and sometimes it goes back to the song from the trip before, seems to have a mind of its own.

I am finding that going over bumps the slight rattle of the usb will switch the radio to the usb and back again. Maybe doesnt like my choice of music.......

[Vulture]

Anyone find the rain sensing wipers are not as good as the VE ones? I just can't fathom how the thing works. My E2 Senator's system was perfect.

[Crusty]

Anyone find the rain sensing wipers are not as good as the VE ones? I just can't fathom how the thing works. My E2 Senator's system was perfect.

I've had a few cars with Rain sensing wipers and have found the VF ones to be on par if not better than the other ones.

[Goggles]

I've had a few cars with Rain sensing wipers and have found the VF ones to be on par if not better than the other ones.

Havent had to test mine yet. Nor have I driven the car at night

[jaykay]

No issues with mine..they work well :)

[mjrandom]

A mate who has a new Calais V made the same comment Simon but he was comparing to his RR Sport. Last Friday I found I had to play with the twisty thing a bit to get an appropriate setting and haven't touched it since. Well that is what I tell my wife.

[NickS]

Anyone find the rain sensing wipers are not as good as the VE ones? I just can't fathom how the thing works. My E2 Senator's system was perfect.

I'm with you mate ... on interim they seem to swipe once when starting off and then they don't do anything ??? Not sure if the rain wasn't heavy enough ...

If you bump it up one to the first setting it was far to much for the rain we had, so I was just manually making it swipe every now and then so I could see.

Either it's not working or I'm doing something wrong ... might need to read the manual!

[Crusty]

I'm with you mate ... on interim they seem to swipe once when starting off and then they don't do anything ??? Not sure if the rain wasn't heavy enough ...

If you bump it up one to the first setting it was far to much for the rain we had, so I was just manually making it swipe every now and then so I could see.

Either it's not working or I'm doing something wrong ... might need to read the manual!


You can adjust the sensitivity :)

[Vulture]

You can adjust the sensitivity :)

Yes I know but it seems much harder to get a setting that works.
Intuitively, turning the knob towards the finer/smaller section should make it more sensitive (less delay on intermittent) but it seems to do the opposite.
With my E2 Senator, it was perfect all the time just left alone once a sensitivity setting was settled on that I liked.


I'm with you mate ... on interim they seem to swipe once when starting off and then they don't do anything ??? Not sure if the rain wasn't heavy enough ...

Just seems a bit all over the place to me, maybe it is "too smart" and is more sophisticated than the old system. I noticed when the sky got darker all of a sudden that made them want to go faster even though the rainfall didn't change. Strange.

[jaykay]

Just seems a bit all over the place to me, maybe it is "too smart" and is more sophisticated than the old system. I noticed when the sky got darker all of a sudden that made them want to go faster even though the rainfall didn't change. Strange.

Maybe the GTS gets rain / darkness sensing wipers :lol:

[Vulture]

Maybe the GTS gets rain / darkness sensing wipers :lol:

:yup:

Unfortunately, the manual doesn't actually give any instructions on the rain sensing wipers. It just says they may be fitted.

[Crusty]

The worst part of them is when they become "bird poo sensing wipers" and smear the screen for you after a bird has deposited it's business. :D

[offshore]

I find that they seem to work ok when first getting in the car and turning it on but if you then start to adjust the wipers manually it seems to switch off the rain sensor i think anyway.

[Bens Calais V]

What did the service guys say at your 3,000 inspection ?

They Said, we will have a look at it, so the three commodore experts came out , stood around looked at it with there eyes, then all sorted of nodded, and that was about it.
so I didn't expect to much, and much to my surprise it still happens.

[jaykay]

They Said, we will have a look at it, so the three commodore experts came out , stood around looked at it with there eyes, then all sorted of nodded, and that was about it.
so I didn't expect to much, and much to my surprise it still happens.

That was what I was expecting the Service Manager to do with mine and say we can't replicate the fault. But to my surprise he admitted it was a faulty seat base. I am still waiting for the replacement to come in it is 7 weeks now and it gets worse. It is not a pleasant feeling that is for sure.

Keep at them because it is not a "one off" problem.....

[vyls1wa]

What's the feeling in the seat again that your getting, when I was home on break last i noticed a very slight knock in the base when changing directions but somewhat random.

[Crusty]

What's the feeling in the seat again that your getting, I noticed a very slight knock in the base when changing directions but somewhat random.

Yep that's the one, mine has got progressively worse, just need to book it in for them to take a look.

[vyls1wa]

All with heated seats?

[jaykay]

What's the feeling in the seat again that your getting, when I was home on break last i noticed a very slight knock in the base when changing directions but somewhat random.

It is like a spring compressing / moving sometimes and then others like something is sliding under my ass all when cornering. Hard to describe but very obvious it is not normal.....

I have heard of one case with non heated seats but most cases seem to be with heated seats....

[Crusty]

All with heated seats?

Nah mines in my Redline no heated seats.

[vyls1wa]

Hmm... Cheers

[vfblack]

Nah mines in my Redline no heated seats.

same here...

[jaykay]

So has anyone else had theirs diagnosed as ****ed and awaiting a replacement ?

[Crusty]

So has anyone else had theirs diagnosed as ****ed and awaiting a replacement ?

I tried at my 3000k inspection but was given the "no fault found" so have to book it in and try again.

[ennzed]

VF SSV Redline here.
Hit 1300km and I've noticed a rattle in the sunroof, and a slight shifting of the drivers seat chair every now and then when cornering.
Biggest worry is the iPhone integration, trying to change songs using the toggle on the steering wheel is horrendous. Sometimes it works, other times it jumps to random songs in the playlist.
Anyone got that issue sorted?