Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

[GTS LSA]

Get Joe Public in them already !!!! :driving: :nos:


YES... Send me mine early and I will tell all :driving:

[XUV]

This is what puts it all into perspective for me:

I can have an E63 AMG S

OR

A GTS *and* a CLA45 AMG *and* still have enough change for an SSV Redline if I wanted one.
Anyone buying an E63 AMG in Oz is getting sharfted, as they're only a 100-130k car in America/Europe.

[Pickles]

Anyone buying an E63 AMG in Oz is getting sharfted, as they're only a 100-130k car in America/Europe.

Ha ha ha...Very true....ya can get a C63 for $80K in the U.S. Whatever Govt is in power here must have a big grin when anyone buys a "Luxury?" car.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Jag530G]

Auto. i'd be really interested if MOTOR tests a manual. I susect t will be quicker than wheels auto time

No, the Wheels test was the manual.

Cheers, Matthew

[Wonky]

Auto. i'd be really interested if MOTOR tests a manual. I susect t will be quicker than wheels auto time

In today's Carsguide in the Herald Sun's GTS vs E63 AMG comparison they say "We're assured the GTS auto is slightly quicker than the manual. We believe it, especially as the manual needs to grab second just before it passes the 100 mark."

[Wonky]

Yeah I wouldnt mind a comparison either, I thought I had read that auto but manually changing was the quickest, but that may have just been an opinion also

I know people who should be pretty good at picking change points who've found their 400m times have improved by up to 0.3 just leaving the A6 in drive compared to manual shifting.

[GTS LSA]

^ yeah I dont doubt it, if the auto is decent it should beat maual shifting I thought, though each car type is different I guess

As said earlier, we need some real world testing

[Vulture]

In today's Carsguide in the Herald Sun's GTS vs E63 AMG comparison they say "We're assured the GTS auto is slightly quicker than the manual. We believe it, especially as the manual needs to grab second just before it passes the 100 mark."

Yep, sounds like the auto will be the numbers car (as expected).

[markone2]

I know people who should be pretty good at picking change points who've found their 400m times have improved by up to 0.3 just leaving the A6 in drive compared to manual shifting.

3 attempts at that little trick proved woesome in the big cammed VE Maloo….forget the 11.7 , shot it straight back into low 12’s with a 6mph loss each and every time.
Said Senator previously mentioned, admittedly only the one attempt , saw a 14.09 pass at 104mph…
................You simply cannot outshift the auto .be it 4A or 6A imho , Oddly enough the Senators fastest time came locked in Drive , with traction Control on.
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Older forum members here will well recall *Chillys* shocking ¼ mile times until the truth came to light once his daugher drove down the 1/4 with the car locked in *3*…instant full second pickup ..Chilly finally being convinced that self shifting was not the way to travel .

After that nasty little habbit was established, we then saw the wee cam only VX knocking out high 11’s in full street trim ....whilst the good gentlemen in question was reading the Redbank times and supping on a cup of coffee in his left hand…there is a video of it here on the forum .

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SV8 H/C 10.765

[mjrandom]

I hope the wheels story is indicative of the real GTS because if it is then we are going to be very happy. I think wait for a few cars to be tested before jumping on the sprint times. In any case the way wheels describes its twisty bits performance is what I am looking for.

The article suggests that launch control struggles with damp conditions and a totally manual approach was better. By the way 80 - 120 in 5.6 seconds in 5th is pretty fair with 2.8 seconds in 3rd. 0 - 60 in 2.5 seconds same as the AMG. From there the AMG has the edge. This is backed up by the Winton data with the GTS carrying higher corner speeds in 5 of 8 corners but the AMG has much higher straight speeds. Lap time to the GTS by 0.2 seconds in a 1:40.9. I have no feel for that number.

[Drasius]

If memory serves, the FG GT-P and the old GTS did Winton in around 1:43.9X - 1:44.XX

[NickS]

Older forum members here will well recall *Chillys* shocking ¼ mile times until the truth came to light once his daugher drove down the 1/4 with the car locked in *3*…instant full second pickup ..Chilly finally being convinced that self shifting was not the way to travel .

After that nasty little habbit was established, we then saw the wee cam only VX knocking out high 11’s in full street trim ....whilst the good gentlemen in question was reading the Redbank times and supping on a cup of coffee in his left hand…there is a video of it here on the forum .

:lol: .... that has to be one of the top 10 all-time classic LS1 forum posts for sure! Chilly was good value, no doubt about it.

[Pickles]

Yep, sounds like the auto will be the numbers car (as expected).
I think, in a straight line, the auto may have the edge, but another member has quite correctly mentioned "the twisty bits", & in those situations, like John Bowe's Winton drive, I reckon the manual may have the edge.
Cheers, Pickles.

[jaykay]

So much anticipation..so many scenarios...must be killing the GTS owners to be....

[mjrandom]

So much anticipation..so many scenarios...must be killing the GTS owners to be....

What's killing me is when mine is due to arrive I won't be in the country. It will sit lonely somewhere waiting for me!

[GTS LSA]

Finally got a chance to get down to the newsagent today to get the Wheels mag. Then had to sit through 4 hours of kids sport and parties/weekend stuff

Sitting here watching V8's, with a cold Corona, reading about the GTS.... Life is good

GTS well and truly did itself proud vs Germany's best... I am very impressed... Stiil like to see some dry weather running and some owners feedback, but regardless of that, I am 110% happy with my decision to buy one, the anticipation is killing me....waiting.....waiting......waiting

[markone2]

What's killing me is when mine is due to arrive I won't be in the country. It will sit lonely somewhere waiting for me!

Not an issue, I’ll happily volunteer to pick it up for you, and given it’s a brand new model ..I’ll even waiver my usual fee for supplying a best of 3 base line runs at Willowbank ,



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;)

[mjrandom]

Funny I have been inundated with offers to "keep it clean for you while you are away". A mate of mine was going to get me some money back offering drives in the country! Thanks for the offer though I think it can sit in Melbourne or the dealership.

Given that the wheels car was a silver manual I guess it is a production car and not a mule and it seems that the performance is fairly similar to the first two cars. I was expecting Camaro like figures, looks like that wont happen. Doesn't detract from the car that I have ordered or make me second guess the decision. Just wondering why the lower than expected numbers????

[markone2]

[QUOTE=mjrandom;2090901]Funny I have been inundated with offers to "keep it clean for you while you are away". A mate of mine was going to get me some money back offering drives in the country! Thanks for the offer though I think it can sit in Melbourne or the dealership.

QUOTE]

I can tell with a little Authority , ( I was watching ) last week at Willowbank a NEW Stock looking + Stock sounding NEW Comaro smashed the traps in the 11”s…….Tuned by whom ??????...
Does anyone here Know ?

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Ps Brisbane or Melbourne ?....only reason I offerred

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

the YANKS always have big er ##:lmao:

[mjrandom]

I think it will come up to Brisbane and sit in the dealership. They would probably like that as long as they respect my property. Otherwise I it can stay down at HSV until I am ready for delivery up here. Will find out some more over the next week or two. In any case Simon will be hitting the streets a week or two before me.

[Plenty]

Just wondering why the lower than expected numbers???? The test's were conducted in the wet and with a manual.

[vyssbeast]

I just got back from the US last week. TV add puts the c63 coupe at 62k. We truly get screwed with these on-Australian cars!
Ha ha ha...Very true....ya can get a C63 for $80K in the U.S. Whatever Govt is in power here must have a big grin when anyone buys a "Luxury?" car.
Cheers, Pickles.

[SV805]

I think, in a straight line, the auto may have the edge, but another member has quite correctly mentioned "the twisty bits", & in those situations, like John Bowe's Winton drive, I reckon the manual may have the edge.
Cheers, Pickles.

The fact that it is quicker around the track is a massive compliment to what HSV have done. Not many people bag the AMG so I would have thought it was a great result if it got within 1 sec of AMG, but to beat it is fantastic for the dollars.

I would suspect that the Great gearbox and extra gear in AMG would account for most of the 0 - 100 time difference. Against the 6 Speed Manual

Looking at all these threads and links have we seen a Dry Run in an Auto against anything else on same day. ?

[markone2]

I just got back from the US last week. TV add puts the c63 coupe at 62k. We truly get screwed with these on-Australian cars!

100% Correct . in fact they are cheaper to buy in NZ..........When I sold the C63 here on the forum for $110K...same car ( NOT JAP IMPORT ) could be purchased for 80K in NZ , Thats when our Aus $ was worth 30% over the NZ dollar..........:shock:

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[markone2]

Looking at all these threads and links have we seen a Dry Run in an Auto against anything else on same day. ?



If I can put my mits on one you will have your answer, complete with
1/ Temperature
2/Humidity
3/Barometric Pressure

All up front from 3 passes...ie what the car can do under a given Atmospherics’ ie.. its true potential
Exactly as it left the factory .

Now for the the clincher .....another
3 runs *Tuned* to show its full potential
My reckoning 1/2 second minimum .

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[Vulture]

I'm happy to have a go with the manual at Willowbank. I am pretty handy with a shaft in my hand after all.

[XUV]

I wonder if anyone will enter the GTS in Oz GT Racing, would be nice to see it up against the imports.

[Pickles]

A little bird has told me that as well as the recently read Wheels E63/GTS comparison, there will shortly be another such article where the GTS is run with.....guess what.....what else but a BMW M5! The same little bird also tells me that once again, the GTS is looking good.
Cheers, Pickles.

[mjrandom]

Well I managed to hack into a North Korean spy satellite and found these pics. Zoomed in on the open bonnet to confirm the VIN and yes it exists and it is on the floor ready for HSV magic to be done. Not sure when the work will start buy hopefully in the next week or so.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/front_zpse5568222.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/front_zpse5568222.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rear_zps27abc669.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rear_zps27abc669.jpg.html)

And 100% LSA goodness

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg.html)

As I understand the build process:


Strip / prepare
Exhaust, airbox, coolers
Electrical (tail lamps, EDI, Gauges, MRC module)
Rear suspension
Front Suspension
Rear body
Front body
Side skirts
Brakes/Wheels/Alignment
Badging/programming
Final inspection
Data Dots

Depending on any supply issues I expect to be driving the beastie around the time I get back from my business trip. Will make all the pineapples in Japan worthwhile.

[Vulture]

Ultimate sleeper right there Michael with the plain bodykit and wheels!
I was checking the background for my red bestie to no avail.

[jaykay]

Well I managed to hack into a North Korean spy satellite and found these pics. Zoomed in on the open bonnet to confirm the VIN and yes it exists and it is on the floor ready for HSV magic to be done. Not sure when the work will start buy hopefully in the next week or so.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/front_zpse5568222.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/front_zpse5568222.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rear_zps27abc669.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rear_zps27abc669.jpg.html)

And 100% LSA goodness

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg.html)

As I understand the build process:


Strip / prepare
Exhaust, airbox, coolers
Electrical (tail lamps, EDI, Gauges, MRC module)
Rear suspension
Front Suspension
Rear body
Front body
Side skirts
Brakes/Wheels/Alignment
Badging/programming
Final inspection
Data Dots

Depending on any supply issues I expect to be driving the beastie around the time I get back from my business trip. Will make all the pineapples in Japan worthwhile.

Tell them you want it left like that with the green rims and black bumpers....you'd confuse the shit outta people on the road :lmao:

Good work on the info :)

Interesting engine cover...

[mjrandom]

jk the red cover sits over this and that is the part of the supercharger that is exposed.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/cover_zps0a8b252b.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/cover_zps0a8b252b.jpg.html)

I didn't know that the LSA was fitted on the Holden production line so that was a surprise.

Simon I think the green rims and the red body would look HOT!!!

[gmeup]

Got to sit in the new E63 last week this is the only one in AU at the moment and the one they compared to the GTS in the article. Impressive car.
Notice in the last photo it has two cameras in the windscreen one camera just below the mb badge and the badge is a part of the radar based cruise control to avoid cars. The technology is mind boggling it has full LED head light all led interior and exterior. The light from the head lights dims and brightens actively on road depending if any cars in front or people, apparently on country road with no oncoming traffic they are so bright it’s like having your high beams and they auto dim down if approaching cars are on route.


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/gmeup/IMG_9160.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/gmeup/media/IMG_9160.jpg.html)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/gmeup/IMG_9159.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/gmeup/media/IMG_9159.jpg.html)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/gmeup/IMG_9161.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/gmeup/media/IMG_9161.jpg.html)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/gmeup/IMG_9156.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/gmeup/media/IMG_9156.jpg.html)

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/gmeup/IMG_9154.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/gmeup/media/IMG_9154.jpg.html)

[doc]

Well I managed to hack into a North Korean spy satellite and found these pics. Zoomed in on the open bonnet to confirm the VIN and yes it exists and it is on the floor ready for HSV magic to be done. Not sure when the work will start buy hopefully in the next week or so.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/front_zpse5568222.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/front_zpse5568222.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rear_zps27abc669.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rear_zps27abc669.jpg.html)

And 100% LSA goodness

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/LSA_zps89c891c1.jpg.html)

As I understand the build process:


Strip / prepare
Exhaust, airbox, coolers
Electrical (tail lamps, EDI, Gauges, MRC module)
Rear suspension
Front Suspension
Rear body
Front body
Side skirts
Brakes/Wheels/Alignment
Badging/programming
Final inspection
Data Dots

Depending on any supply issues I expect to be driving the beastie around the time I get back from my business trip. Will make all the pineapples in Japan worthwhile.

HSV advised me that delivery of the first GTS' to dealerships (and presumably straight to customers given the order book) will start "shortly after 16th Sept"

[Vulture]

HSV advised me that delivery of the first GTS' to dealerships (and presumably straight to customers given the order book) will start "shortly after 16th Sept"

I'm hoping to have mine by the end of that week. Fingers crossed.

That E63 is certainly at the next level compared with the GTS. I won't be ashamed to drive a GTS but I'd be lying if I said that the E63 would not be in my garage if I could spend that much. I love the look of it. Probably more of a successful man in his 50s (rather than 40s) type of car in styling though.

[Vulture]

Get a load of the panel fit on the bonnet of the E63! Not closed properly or has it been abused by someone? Not good!

[mjrandom]

Another little update. I was curious how the air was being channeled into the radiator and this shows the duct that does it. Progress to date includes fitting the various radiators. Not sure when the next update will occur. Seems a lot of cars in the workshop and soon a red manual...

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/mouth_zps40c0a5b6.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/mouth_zps40c0a5b6.jpg.html)

It is cetainly a busy place in there.

[jaykay]

Another little update. I was curious how the air was being channeled into the radiator and this shows the duct that does it. Progress to date includes fitting the various radiators. Not sure when the next update will occur. Seems a lot of cars in the workshop and soon a red manual...

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/mouth_zps40c0a5b6.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/mouth_zps40c0a5b6.jpg.html)

It is cetainly a busy place in there.

Good to see the car is following the safety signs recommendations !!!

[GTS LSA]

Keep posting this stuff, its awesome..................... frustrating but lots of awesomeness :thumbsup:

[bouka]

That's awesome mj. You will love the gts.

[Vulture]

Excellent. Great to build the excitement with the pics of your actual car on the way. Hope I also find the codes to this North Korean spy satellite

[bouka]

I think you will Simon.

[mjrandom]

Big day today, suspension, brakes and rear spoiler. Pretty sure this is how it will sit for a while until other builds catch up. So next update is likely to be a little while. Anyway here are some more photos.

Pointy end

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/yumthatlooksgood_zps228b4dbc.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/yumthatlooksgood_zps228b4dbc.jpg.html)

Blunt end

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rearview_zps48530fe7.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rearview_zps48530fe7.jpg.html)

And those awesome brakes

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/frontbrake_zps68b34952.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/frontbrake_zps68b34952.jpg.html)

I started second guessing myself about getting the Heron paintwork. I was thinking either Regal Peacock or Prussian Steel but couldn't change as the car was already painted. It has been a while since I had a white car, new VT SS to be precise. I think I can love it again. I reckon that front bar is gorgeous.

I know there are quite a few who think it is a bad thing to put the SV spoiler and wheels on a GTS but I like the understated look, happy to be confused for an R8 SV. I would have had the Senator spoiler if I could but the bolt holes are different to the GTS wing and SV spoiler so that is not an option.

[Alex(AUS)]

Big day today, suspension, brakes and rear spoiler. Pretty sure this is how it will sit for a while until other builds catch up. So next update is likely to be a little while. Anyway here are some more photos.

Pointy end

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/yumthatlooksgood_zps228b4dbc.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/yumthatlooksgood_zps228b4dbc.jpg.html)

Blunt end

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rearview_zps48530fe7.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rearview_zps48530fe7.jpg.html)

And those awesome brakes

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/frontbrake_zps68b34952.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/frontbrake_zps68b34952.jpg.html)

I started second guessing myself about getting the Heron paintwork. I was thinking either Regal Peacock or Prussian Steel but couldn't change as the car was already painted. It has been a while since I had a white car, new VT SS to be precise. I think I can love it again. I reckon that front bar is gorgeous.

I know there are quite a few who think it is a bad thing to put the SV spoiler and wheels on a GTS but I like the understated look, happy to be confused for an R8 SV. I would have had the Senator spoiler if I could but the bolt holes are different to the GTS wing and SV spoiler so that is not an option.

Awesome mate!

How about no spoiler at all? I would order like that and take the big wing separately if needed later. I also would ask not to bother with lsa badge. Alex

[bouka]

That's coming along very, very nicely mike.

I have no doubt it will be very well looked after and can say from first hand experience that all the guys at the factory are very proud of their part in every car. Andrew is also a credit to the hsv brand and a very passionate motor enthusiast.

You will love the white mate, having seen one in the flesh many times I can tell you it looks the part.

[CLUBRED]

White is the new white..

[iloveholden]

Build coming along nicely mate, and I think the white on the GTS with the black accents, and dark/black rims will looks very nice!

[jaykay]

Are the zorst tips standard colour for GTS or have they been coloured for your order ?

[bouka]

Are the zorst tips standard colour for GTS or have they been coloured for your order ?

Standard jk. Gts gets grey tips.

[mjrandom]

This car is giving me a greater appreciation of the passion, commitment and dedication of HSV than I thought possible. Something I have taken from granted with the two E series I have owned. Even though it was many years ago I can remember ringing HSV on the day after I picked up my new VN Clubbie. A Saturday. Neither the dealer or I could work out something that shouldn't have been happening. The call was answered by the "Boss" who went into the workshop and talked us through the fix. I thought then what a great company and I hoped to be the same sort of boss one day, happy to talk to anyone and help them out. I guess I expected with time, volume and demand the personal touch would go but that is certainly not the case. I really appreciate the effort and being able to see the transformation from Holden to HSV. And whenever the GTS goes to a new owner I will hand over a portfolio of build photos that I hope means as much to them as it does to me now.

For what it is worth the VN was a lot of fun, basic and simple, the E series have been good but not outstanding. The R8 SV I had the pleasure of enjoying was a huge step forward and I think the GTS is going to blow our minds. If you have $250 - 300k to blow on an E63 or CLS63 or M6 maybe it is a bit ho hum but that is a fantasy I won't ever fulfil. Right now though I am counting down the days...

The tips are standard as Bouka has said. My only options are the SV bits and automatic transmission.

[bozodos]

mj are you mates with the boss there or something? enjoying the pics, cool to see the car start to transform! Does the engine get run in etc at Holden, or is all of that done at HSV?

[mjrandom]

Boz I was lucky enough to contact someone who works down there, friend of a friend of a friend. I have never met him but I will have to make the effort to visit one of these days and buy him a beer or rum or several. I am not sure if there will be pics available from other builds and since I have the chance to get a couple of pics I couldn't be selfish and keep them to myself. I am interested in the work that HSV does and I reckon there are plenty of others who think the same way.

All I know about the engine is that until the final tune is done by HSV the engine is limited to a fast idle. No running in as far as I know but happy for someone who knows for sure to chime in. Realistically these days QA and QC mean tolerances are well controlled and engines are in a far better state than years ago.

[bouka]

The gts's are limited to 1500 rpm as the coolers are not installed (you can see in one of the photos posted that the plumbing in not connected). Once it is all hooked up, the cads are road tested in and around hsv for alignment, suspension etc. Then shipped to dealer.

It's great to see you have this opportunity mj, and the beer, rum will be well deserved as your contact at hsv does a brilliant job.

It would be great to catch up if/when you come down to see him. I will shout you a bevvie or two.

[Vulture]

I started second guessing myself about getting the Heron paintwork. I was thinking either Regal Peacock or Prussian Steel...

As you know, I went through the same thing with my colour choice of red. Only other colours I liked besides the white are the ones you mentioned, but now that I have seen the media GTS in red I'm more confident in that but I think, for red especially, the larger spoiler will work well. Red is a loon colour as opposed to white and is more 'look-at-me', so the larger spoiler is the right choice for that. Regal Peacock is very, very dark in the flesh - almost black and can only see the nice green in direct sun. Beautiful colour, might get a Senator in that in a few years time. That front bar in white looks fantastic though! The blackouts definitely work best in white IMO rather than any other colour.


I know there are quite a few who think it is a bad thing to put the SV spoiler and wheels on a GTS but I like the understated look, happy to be confused for an R8 SV.

I think it will look perfect. Auto, white, subtle spoiler. Could just as easily gone that way myself as could most forum members I am sure. I think I still prefer your SV wheels but thankfully the GTS wheels don't give the three spoke look that we were worried about. Depends how your brain sees the wheel I suppose. When I look at the GTS wheel my brain is seeing six separate spokes rather than a three spoke look. Bit of a relief to me!


Andrew is also a credit to the hsv brand and a very passionate motor enthusiast.


I met him many years ago at a motor show and it was obvious that he was a true enthusiast, as opposed to a lot of people who are involved with cars because it just happens to be what they do.

[NickS]

Despite my earlier comments about choosing the R8 over the GTS the more I see and read the more I want one of these beasties ... after 8 new HSV's over the past 12 years I feel like I need to own one of these if the future of the Commodore goes as many are predicting. Our E3 is only 18 months old so I'm not doing anything in a hurry ... but it's starting to look like the only thing that could replace it is one of these!

I'll see what the next year or 2 brings ... those with one on order, please feel free to post as many pictures as you can (when they arrive) and give us complete & honest feedback on what you think of the car!

Loving the pics mid-build, that's awesome, keep 'em coming!

[Vulture]

Despite my earlier comments about choosing the R8 over the GTS!

Go on Nick, you know you want to!

[mjrandom]

OK I was wrong a bit more done today. Expected to be finished next week and then final inspection and data dots before release. My dealer today told me that release is expected to be Sept 16.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/frontagain_zps6cc17bfa.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/frontagain_zps6cc17bfa.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/rearquarter_zps1d041446.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/rearquarter_zps1d041446.jpg.html)

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A funny comment out of HSV today "You are building a SLEEPER!".

Needless to say I am very very happy. I think my GTS looks superb and many thanks to the care of the guys at HSV. I have to add a very special thanks to Andrew for the photographs and updates. More than I could possibly have hoped for.

Now for Simon's red devil pics...

[Vulture]

It's looking sensational! How good is it to get these pics of your build?
She looks to be a mighty imposing car with road presence.
Really like those SV wheels.

[offshore]

Looks awesome. Those brakes are good bigger then the GT2 Porsche brakes by the look of it.

[Vulture]

Micheal, your PM inbox is full. I'm not surprised with all these exciting pics!

[GTS LSA]

:drool: just keep an eye out for a blue auto in about 6 weeks... thats the important one:yahoo::driving:


Seriously though, sensatonal photos and updates...

[Angeldust]

question,

we know that all HSV's come off the holden production line with the correct engines already fitted before they got to HSV for the
final bits to be added. ie my VZ came off the production line at holden with a ls2 (you can always identify it as a clubbie as its the
only vz model to come from holden with an ls2 and this is stamped on the holden build plate),

Do/did the FPV V8 models come off the Ford production line with the correct motor installed? Or are they simply 6cyl base models
that then go to FPV to get their engines removed and the SC5.0 installed? Kinda seems/feels aftermarket if they do as FPV were
not really as much a part of Ford as HSV is a part of holden?

?

[macca_779]

Ford fits the FPV engines on the line mate. Difference is back when FPV were still around they hand built the engines prior to sending them across the road for ford to fit them. Then the cars came back for everything else.

[Angeldust]

Cool, thanks for clearing that up. And no i haven't been spreading the misinformation i posted above,

was just thinking about it that all.. i guess if i didnt know, neither would have joe average, possibly why
the FPV brand is not really in the same league as HSV for popularity.

[Pickles]

Went over to HSV today to check out GTS production, it not having been started when I was there a few weeks ago.
Like I've said, EVERYONE is gonna be happy with their GTS.
I've always focussed on the R & D that's gone into GTS, as most of you have, and when ya get the opportunity to look, particularly underneath the car, it is REALLY impressive. The cooling system for gear box/ diff etc is a work of art.....and WOW, what about that diff?....It is absolutely massive,.....looks like it came out of a Kenworth truck.
The GTS specific cooling/ducting etc around the front of the car is also beautifully done. The more I learn, the more impressed I am.
Also saw Mike Devereaux's new "company car", a Senator 340, which words I noted on the windscreen "To be personally checked and delivered by Phil Harding"!
HSV are flat out at the moment, O/T & Saturday work, the only slight problem they have is component suppliers keeping up with demand.
Got myself a set of Gen F brochures too, including GTS. Very nicely done. Ist GTS deliveries in around 2 weeks.
Thanks to Mario & Andrew for showing me around.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Vulture]

Martin, there should be a new arrival there very soon for a red GTS from what the spy satellites operators have to say...
Can't wait to get the car in my grubby hands. It really is the full package from all reports and worth the spend over buying an SS and supercharging it (not that there is anything wrong with that).
I just wanted something fast and a bit special straight up without modifications etc.

[mjrandom]

Pickles did you see mine? Is the drool cleaned off?

;)

[Pickles]

Pickles did you see mine? Is the drool cleaned off?

;)
G'Day MJR.
Mate, your name came up on several occasions, but I did not specifically see your car.
But, your name is "up in lights", so when you finally drive your GTS, so will be your comments!
You're gonna love it. Pickles.......
NB:Still can't believe that HSV can sell this car for the price they are...I mean, it's only a few grand dearer than the 25th anniv GTS....and look what ya get....it's for sure that the "LSA GTS" ain't no "Sticker Special"!!

[bouka]

Slightly off topic, but no autocar mag tested R8 SV and got 4.88 o-100 and 2.88 80-120. They compare to 300 srt. I am trying to get hold of the mag.

My GT was very quick for a bog stock car, but my SV feels very strong and only has 1250klm on it.

The GTS is king, no doubt, but SV is a pretty awesome package and numbers are proving it. The nz boys always get the best numbers so let's see what they do with the gts.

Ps. Haven't heard of any 1/4 times in the SV.

[gmeup]

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-reviews/hsv-gts-v-merc-e63-amg-dragstrip-battle-20130822-2sdep.html

Nice little video of the GTS vs E63 and the strip in less the perfect conditions. And I reckon the drivers aren't the best either to extract the most out of both cars.

E63 4.4 sec to 0-100 and 12.3 0-400m
GTS 4.6 sec to 0-100 and 12.6 0-400m

[Wonky]

From email I just received.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/Misc/HSV_zps0fbeb087.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gcovo/media/Misc/HSV_zps0fbeb087.jpg.html)

[Evman]

Keen for a torrent should anyone with pay TV actually record it :lol:

[185iboy]

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-reviews/hsv-gts-v-merc-e63-amg-dragstrip-battle-20130822-2sdep.html

Nice little video of the GTS vs E63 and the strip in less the perfect conditions. And I reckon the drivers aren't the best either to extract the most out of both cars.

E63 4.4 sec to 0-100 and 12.3 0-400m
GTS 4.6 sec to 0-100 and 12.6 0-400m

I don't get what he meant less then perfect conditions. I saw a dry drag strip on a sunny day. It would be good if they gave us the trap speeds to compare too. Imo the the GTS isn't in the same league as a E63. Price wise and equipment wise. Why can't they just throw it up against a GT R-Spec?

[Pickles]

I don't get what he meant less then perfect conditions. I saw a dry drag strip on a sunny day. It would be good if they gave us the trap speeds to compare too. Imo the the GTS isn't in the same league as a E63. Price wise and equipment wise. Why can't they just throw it up against a GT R-Spec?
Because The GTS is simply LIGHT YEARS ahead of the R Spec.....if you have bothered to look & take note of all the stuff that has gone into the GTS, which is NOT just an engine......you would understand.
Cheers, Pickles.

[mickeyVX350]

Because The GTS is simply LIGHT YEARS ahead of the R Spec.....if you have bothered to look & take note of all the stuff that has gone into the GTS, which is NOT just an engine......you would understand.
Cheers, Pickles.

That's what stumps me - along with the "I could buy an SS and spend 52K on that and be faster... Blah blah"...

I could buy a corolla for $1000, spend $96K on it and have more power than a GTS, but it won't ever BE a GTS!

[Pickles]

That's what stumps me - along with the "I could buy an SS and spend 52K on that and be faster... Blah blah"...

I could buy a corolla for $1000, spend $96K on it and have more power than a GTS, but it won't ever BE a GTS!
You are absolutely right.....You could very easily do both of those things....and your "$96K Corolla" may very well, probably would be, quicker than a GTS in a straight line, BUT, would it be as good a car?....I'll leave the answer up to you.....and of course, living in the Country that we do, you do of course have the opportunity to invest $96K of your "hard earned" in a Corolla.....but, I wouldn't.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Plenty]

I don't get what he meant less then perfect conditions. I saw a dry drag strip on a sunny day. It would be good if they gave us the trap speeds to compare too. Imo the the GTS isn't in the same league as a E63. Price wise and equipment wise. Why can't they just throw it up against a GT R-Spec?

Not the same league price wise and equipment wise well does that not tell you something? Your paying 2.5 X the price for it, and then the out of class GTS spanked the E63 around the track. :lmao:

[Wonky]

Keen for a torrent should anyone with pay TV actually record it :lol:

I'll definitely be recording it but from what I've read Foxtel broadcasts are somehow protected so they can't be then copied. I have no special equipment but if somebody wants to detail how to do it (if it's indeed possible) from an iQ box I'm happy to give it a shot.

[Alex(AUS)]

I don't get what he meant less then perfect conditions. I saw a dry drag strip on a sunny day. It would be good if they gave us the trap speeds to compare too. Imo the the GTS isn't in the same league as a E63. Price wise and equipment wise. Why can't they just throw it up against a GT R-Spec?

Trap speed in that instance would not be much different. 2 tenths to 100 and 3 to 400m. Maybe 2mph.

[Vulture]

Will be posting some pics of my GTS being built at HSV tonight.
Very exciting, have pics of the big diff and interior as well.
It's great that there are HSV staff with such passion and a desire to go over and above the usual customer service.

[68LS1]

Will be posting some pics of my GTS being built at HSV tonight.
Very exciting, have pics of the big diff and interior as well.
It's great that there are HSV staff with such passion and a desire to go over and above the usual customer service.


Do you have a build number on yours? I've been told my build number and that delivery is now due Sept 23. I'm very sceptical, even though I ordered in April, build no is between 350 - 400. Can't believe they will have 400 delivered in a week?

Really enjoying your pics too

[team illucid]

I'll definitely be recording it but from what I've read Foxtel broadcasts are somehow protected so they can't be then copied. I have no special equipment but if somebody wants to detail how to do it (if it's indeed possible) from an iQ box I'm happy to give it a shot.

Run the IQ through your HDMI INPUT on your laptop, record the screen if necessary using camtasia or similar, same with audio - save as .MP4 and upload to youtube.

[Vulture]

I have been told by the dealer that the car will be with them on the 17th. I don't have a build number at the moment. Hopefully that date is accurate. I don't know how long HSV take to get them out the door complete.

[ROH]

I have been told by the dealer that the car will be with them on the 17th. I don't have a build number at the moment. Hopefully that date is accurate. I don't know how long HSV take to get them out the door complete.

I was contacted by the dealer letting me know their first GTS will be at showroom on the 18 or 19th.

[mjrandom]

Don't fret about build number. They don't build in order or even use all the numbers up. Don't ask why because I don't know. I only found out with a previous car that that was the case. My dealer is telling me HSV are releasing the GTSs on the 16th of September and he doesn't expect to see mine until the 23rd. Delivery thereafter.

[185iboy]

Because The GTS is simply LIGHT YEARS ahead of the R Spec.....if you have bothered to look & take note of all the stuff that has gone into the GTS, which is NOT just an engine......you would understand.
Cheers, Pickles.

I understand fine but for the GTS vs E63 comparo it seemed a huge waste of all that technology to simply run them down a drag strip and talk about the exhaust notes and suspension settings. I just figured if you're going to punt to cars down a drag strip why not let it be the top dogs of FPV and HSV. The GT R-spec got a 4.5 0-100 in a manual I just wanted to see a good old race.

I'm in the market for a new car and I don't have $250k but would like to buy a HSV, FPV or maybe a used M3. So forgive me for wanting to see a comparo of two cars in the same market and similar priced in a review.

[Vulture]

Some pics of the plain car with LSA in it. About to go to the "stripping" area.

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[Vulture]

Very much being stripped down ready for HSV specific bits.
Looks like HSV must also install the stereo speakers.

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This exhaust is the Holden temporary exhaust that is fitted to the cars. It will be pulled of and the bimodal installed.

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Nice big differential.

[Vulture]

The water to air heat exchanger for the supercharger intercooler.

Very clear that there is a lot more to making these cars than throwing on a front and rear bar and some bigger brakes.

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Man balancing entire car on his head.

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Can't wait to see what it looks like with the larger spoiler on it. Will be the first time we have seen the GTS with the larger spoiler other than the white one in the HSVs release videos.

[mjrandom]

Great pics once again. HSV have every reason to be proud of what they do. I reckon the green wheels suit yours better!

[Pickles]

Very good images.....shows a lot of HSV's engineering work, as a consequence of which, the GTS did very well against the E63.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Plenty]

The GT R-spec got a 4.5 0-100 in a manual I just wanted to see a good old race.

Funny how that time has never been replicated by any other mag and in fact is proving to be not much faster than the standard GT, on top of that in PCOTY it got smashed around the track by the Chrysler 300SRT a 2 + tonne car none the less.......

The R-spec was a pretender, they threw some go fast bits on it and said "she'll be right". In reality it did very little to help the impossible which is the antiquated chassis!

I have an FPV GS, great straight line grunt but not much else. The GTS deserves every bit of that comparison with the AMG and did an almighty job of it, hand it to a car 2.5X the price around the track is something to be very proud of, something the r-spec could merely dream of.

[Vulture]

Funny how that time has never been replicated by any other mag and in fact is proving to be not much faster than the standard GT, on top of that in PCOTY it got smashed around the track by the Chrysler 300SRT a 2 + tonne car none the less.......

I wonder whether the problem with track performance could be the lack of intercooler? Temps increase, ECU pulls timing? Power drops off?

[macca_779]

E67 ECM. Nice

[markone2]

I wonder whether the problem with track performance could be the lack of intercooler? Temps increase, ECU pulls timing? Power drops off?

Doc...at Willowbank tonight *LSR* factory Stock in Comaro form ( identical driveline) ..Ist try totally ex factory a couple of weeks past ,12.6 at 113 mph........Tonight ,Intake + PT tune ONLY 11.8 at 118mph

Might throw a couple of pointers on the subject ...........Enough said.

.

.

[Vulture]

Thanks Mark. I meant the FPV being slow around a circuit after getting hot, but that's good news about the potential.

[XUV]

Very clear that there is a lot more to making these cars than throwing on a front and rear bar and some bigger brakes.

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What is that , no not the blue oil filter, the diamond shaped chunky thing ?

[Alex(AUS)]

Doc...at Willowbank tonight *LSR* factory Stock in Comaro form ( identical driveline) ..Ist try totally ex factory a couple of weeks past ,12.6 at 113 mph........Tonight ,Intake + PT tune ONLY 11.8 at 118mph

Might throw a couple of pointers on the subject ...........Enough said.

.

.

Do you mean a ZL1 Camaro with LSA engine?

Alex

[gmeup]

I don't get what he meant less then perfect conditions. I saw a dry drag strip on a sunny day. It would be good if they gave us the trap speeds to compare too. Imo the the GTS isn't in the same league as a E63. Price wise and equipment wise. Why can't they just throw it up against a GT R-Spec?

I guess they could mean the tarmac is full of burnt out rubber residue, oily surface, and not in the best of condition to achieve maximum traction off the mark for this torque monsters. Their have been reviews for example getting the E63 RWD to do 0-100 in 3.8 sec and 11.9 qtr mile times which is a fair whack from what this test could achieve.

[macca_779]

What is that , no not the blue oil filter, the diamond shaped chunky thing ?

Oil heat exchanger.

[gmeup]

Very good images.....shows a lot of HSV's engineering work, as a consequence of which, the GTS did very well against the E63.
Cheers, Pickles.

The reason I think they wanted to compare the HSV GTS to the E63 is because I think the E63 is the fastest 4 door sedan in the world now in AWD form for 2014 and is regarded as the best all round luxury performance car period. Thus they wanted to show how effective the GTS against all the while been $150,000 cheaper.

[bouka]

Less than ideal conditions bla bla bla. The AMG still managed an excellent mph. So far gts hasn't in any of the tests (best of 115mph).

I have always said wait until private cars go down the quarter. The mags couldn't get under a 13 for the sc gt (non rspec), yet everyone one I know (including mine) did mid to low 12's at 114mph.

[bouka]

Brilliant pics Simon. Andrew has been running around like a mad man taking pics of Michael and your cars. He is a top bloke.

Not long now!

[Vulture]

Thanks. Very exciting. Hoping to be in the car by the end of this month. Has anyone managed to upload that HSV video?

[XUV]

Thanks. Very exciting. Hoping to be in the car by the end of this month. Has anyone managed to upload that HSV video?

it'll be on youtube soon ,
from HSV

If you missed it, fear not... We'll be posting it to YouTube soon and Speed TV are replaying it many times over the next week -
AEST rerun times are below:

Thur 5th Sep 11am
Fri 6th Sep 11pm
Sat 7th Sep 5pm
Sun 8th Sep 6.30am
Wed 11th Sep 3.30pm

[Vulture]

A couple more pics. The GTS is about to go into the brake installation section. Front bar to come as they are running low on these from what I hear.
Hopefully won't be delaying the build.
Looking closer to completion!
Nice black one ahead and behind mine.

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[mjrandom]

Wing looks the goods with the red horizontal section. Shows up better than white.

[68LS1]

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Love the look of the big spoiler on the red car (which is good as I ordered one :))

[jaykay]

A couple more pics. The GTS is about to go into the brake installation section. Front bar to come as they are running low on these from what I hear.
Hopefully won't be delaying the build.
Looking closer to completion!
Nice black one ahead and behind mine.

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Keep the green wheels :thumbsup:

[68LS1]

Can you run a full size number plate on front or is it slimline only?

[Plenty]

Their have been reviews for example getting the E63 RWD to do 0-100 in 3.8 sec and 11.9 qtr mile times which is a fair whack from what this test could achieve.

Only from the AWD version of the car, not the RWD we see in Australia.

[Brett240]

Can you run a full size number plate on front or is it slimline only?

I'm sure for road use a full size plate would be fine. Maybe take it off for the track for max ventilation

[Vulture]

Wing looks the goods with the red horizontal section. Shows up better than white.

Yes, I think it is going to work well.
It's hard to tell in pictures though.

[mjrandom]

Keep the green wheels :thumbsup:

Now jk that is not going to happen, those steelies cannot clear the rear brakes let alone the front. So Simon is just going to have to get the 20s powder coated after delivery, I'm sure someone can dig out the paint colour code!

[jaykay]

I just think it is very impressive that an owner can get pics of their car during the build....:goodjob: HSV

Can you get a photo of it with you at the factory before it leaves ?

[CLUBRED]

Code is - 5H1T455

[Vulture]

I just think it is very impressive that an owner can get pics of their car during the build....:goodjob: HSV

It is, it's truly fantastic. It gives that low-volume specialist feeling to the whole thing.
I wonder whether HSV would consider making it an official part of the buying experience that people can option. Potential issues I see would be work load for the person doing it and also potential customer whining and arguments with dealership when they can see their car made but not delivered.

[jaykay]

For us uneducated people and non Melbournites.......what floor size is the HSV factory and how many cars on the floor being worked on at any given time ?

[bouka]

Fricken big and lots.

[mjrandom]

I really appreciate getting the shots of the car as it progresses. Seeing other cars and other shots too is very good. Clearly the GTS isn't just "bolt a few go faster bits on and hope for the best", there is serious engineering that has gone on long before the first customer car rolls out.

[CLUBRED]

It is, it's truly fantastic. It gives that low-volume specialist feeling to the whole thing.
I wonder whether HSV would consider making it an official part of the buying experience that people can option. Potential issues I see would be work load for the person doing it and also potential customer whining and arguments with dealership when they can see their car made but not delivered.

Instead of build updates, maybe an album delivered with the car, with signatures of those who built it. Like a coffee table book that can be slid into the manual folder. Surely HSV have a PR team or the like.

I think this would return some sort of individuality back into their cars.

[Vulture]

Good idea Clubred.

[Vulture]

Some more pics.
Still waiting on the front bar but otherwise the car is complete.

Nice dark tint and it will be schweeet.

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Size comparison between stock brakes and the HSV ones.

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[GTS LSA]

Looking good, so is that approx. in & out in a week???

[Vulture]

Looking good, so is that approx. in & out in a week???

I think so, but I'd be cautious with a definite timeframe. Mine has finished the "on line" process but I am not sure what else they need to do for it to be completely ready. I know that mine obviously needs the front bar! I think they then road test it and probably do some sort of QC inspection.

[LS3]

I think so, but I'd be cautious with a definite timeframe. Mine has finished the "on line" process but I am not sure what else they need to do for it to be completely ready. I know that mine obviously needs the front bar! I think they then road test it and probably do some sort of QC inspection.

It looks like your GTS will be delivered on time ,it's been a long wait its good to see some progress you must be getting a bit excited now
Anyone have any idea how many GTS's have been ordered ?

[jaykay]

It looks like your GTS will be delivered on time ,it's been a long wait its good to see some progress you must be getting a bit excited now
Anyone have any idea how many GTS's have been ordered ?

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?163994-So-Who-Has-Ordered-A-VF-Gen-F&p=2092433#post2092433

[LS3]

Thanks jkgmh ,I meant how many orders HSV had for the GTS
There will probably be a few more considering the write ups they are getting in the magazines

[Pickles]

LS3. I think HSV are up around 400 "Deposit Paid" firm Customer orders.
I've heard that many Dealers have lists of potential buyers who are waiting to actually see the GTS in the flesh before they make up their mind.
Cheers, Pickles.

[LS3]

Thanks Pickles that's a pretty good effort for a vehicle that hasn't made the showrooms yet, HSV would have to be happy with that .

[Angeldust]

the VF looks great. i Cannot understand the logic behind the negative comments towards it.


Ha, i remember when i bought my VZ i was telling myself that the VF wont be all that much different
to the VE so i probably won't like it as much as the VZ........... looks like i was wrong! Maybe i should
have waited lol... Nah im still loving my VZ.. but yeah if i hadnt bought my clubbie when i did, i would be
very very tempted right now. (though would have only been ably to afford a SS)

Happy driving to all VF owners!

[team illucid]

the VF looks great. i Cannot understand the logic behind the negative comments towards it!

You cannot understand that what one person finds attractive another finds ugly?

I like it, except for the rear and the dashboard, and those are personal opinions. Much to the amusement of fellow Audi Club members, I also hated my Audi interior with a billion different lights and switches, and gadgets. Too much, too fake. I like the honest simplicity of the VT-VE.

[gmeup]

Only from the AWD version of the car, not the RWD we see in Australia.

that's the RWD which has done 3.8sec to 0-100 the AWD has done 3.4 secs :)

[Angeldust]

You cannot understand that what one person finds attractive another finds ugly?

I like it, except for the rear and the dashboard, and those are personal opinions. Much to the amusement of fellow Audi Club members, I also hated my Audi interior with a billion different lights and switches, and gadgets. Too much, too fake. I like the honest simplicity of the VT-VE.

i cannot understand baseless comments like : the VF is the ugliest car i've ever seen bla bla bla.

its the extremety of the comment. The VF follows modern lines etc so can only be as ugly as the rest of the modern cars. For someone to say that the VF is the ugliuest car they have ever seen, while at the same time driving a FG falcon etc. is pretty fking stupid, and if anything displays the commentators low intelligence.

[SV805]

Seriously you GTS Buyers............Where are the updates, photos anticipated delivery dates.

I am excited and I haven't even ordered one so am living my excitement through you guys.

Nothing for 3 Days ?????

[mjrandom]

We've been busy. It's hard to wipe that much drool off a computer screen. Supposedly mine is mine from the 26th. Does this sound like I've had too many Asahis and no sleep?

Hey all my free advertisements are coming up in Japanese script.

[Vulture]

Hopefully all going well I'll have mine by the end of the month also. The first GTSs are being released from HSV on the 16th. A week or so after that we might have some deliveries. It's been a long wait!

[gmeup]

the people who are getting their cars this month, at what date did you guys put a deposit down or make your orders?

[Vulture]

I think my deposit went down first week of May. Would have to check when I'm home. Still going to be shorter than the wait on my CLA45. Deposit on that was on in April. I'm in the first few, delivery December.

[jaykay]

I think my deposit went down first week of May. Would have to check when I'm home. Still going to be shorter than the wait on my CLA45. Deposit on that was on in April. I'm in the first few, delivery December.

So which is your car and which is the wifes ?

[LS3]

the people who are getting their cars this month, at what date did you guys put a deposit down or make your orders?

Put down my deposit in the first week of May

[Vulture]

Probably a lot of variables a work. Dealership allotment, state, manual or auto, sunroof, colour. This probably all has an effect on delivery times.

[jaykay]

Probably a lot of variables a work. Dealership allotment, state, manual or auto, sunroof, colour. This probably all has an effect on delivery times.

and WHO YOU KNOW !!!!!

[LS3]

Probably a lot of variables a work. Dealership allotment, state, manual or auto, sunroof, colour. This probably all has an effect on delivery times.

Yeah I think you may be right, a GTS ordered before mine is scheduled to arrive the same day, It almost seems like they are holding them back to deliver as many as they can around the same time

[LS3]

and WHO YOU KNOW !!!!!

I hope not, I don't "KNOW" anyone, probably won't see mine until Xmas

[jaykay]

I hope not, I don't "KNOW" anyone, probably won't see mine until Xmas

2014 :lmao:

[68LS1]

the people who are getting their cars this month, at what date did you guys put a deposit down or make your orders?

Last week of April for me

[bouka]

Thanks jkgmh ,I meant how many orders HSV had for the GTS
There will probably be a few more considering the write ups they are getting in the magazines

370. Many waiting to see, feel etc as well.

[Jag530G]

I was at our local Holden dealer (Madills Noosa) yesterday and the sales rep said the waiting list is now out to June next year for a GTS. Great news for HSV to have such a winner.

Cheers, Matthew

[bouka]

Yeah I think you may be right, a GTS ordered before mine is scheduled to arrive the same day, It almost seems like they are holding them back to deliver as many as they can around the same time

They started to ship them out today. First batch mostly for the sheep fondlers. They will be shipped daily from now on.

[bouka]

I was at our local Holden dealer (Madills Noosa) yesterday and the sales rep said the waiting list is now out to June next year for a GTS. Great news for HSV to have such a winner.

Cheers, Matthew

It is fantastic news.

Just a note, this will vary from dealer to dealer depending on allocation.

[mjrandom]

We have seen my Heron GTS and Simon's Sting GTS. Here are a couple of sneak peaks of others. At least one other has the SV wheels...

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/brue_zpse3a74511.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/brue_zpse3a74511.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/bleck_zps31ba37ce.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/bleck_zps31ba37ce.jpg.html)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/prussian_zpsc39ef0ac.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/prussian_zpsc39ef0ac.jpg.html)

[jaykay]

Nice work getting photo's deep inside HSV :goodjob:

[Vulture]

The black GTS, wow, that look amazing.
If I wasn't such a fussy bugger I would have gone for that.
The other wheels look great too, could happily have either.
I've always been partial to mesh designs but really wanted the exclusive GTS wheels.


So which is your car and which is the wifes ?

I'm trying to find a woman to share the CLA with, open to offers. :serenade:


370. Many waiting to see, feel etc as well.

Hopefully our GTSs aren't going to be pawned by every visitor to the dealership :toetap:

[macca_779]

How awesome is it to see so much excitement over the new gts. So good to see it comfortably back at the top

[Vulture]

Oops I mean "pawed" not "pawned".

[IJ.]

How awesome is it to see so much excitement over the new gts. So good to see it comfortably back at the top
Great to see it's not just another sticker special...

Thanks to the guys that are posting the pics it's been interesting :D

[jaykay]

Wonder what size exhaust the GTS will be running.......

[zorro]

Great to see it's not just another sticker special...

Thanks to the guys that are posting the pics it's been interesting :D

Until they release a sticker special GTS in 6 months time :p

[XUV]

We have seen my Heron GTS and Simon's Sting GTS. Here are a couple of sneak peaks of others. At least one other has the SV wheels...



http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii85/mjrandom/bleck_zps31ba37ce.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/user/mjrandom/media/bleck_zps31ba37ce.jpg.html)


is that black or the Peacock green ??

[GTS LSA]

They all look awesome

i ordered July, was told Mar 14 by one dealer, so kept looking, ended up Oct thru holden so best guess Nov thru HSV..... I am finding the wait very challenging :driving:

Especially since I sold my GTO a little over 14 months ago, and been driving my diesel 4x4 since

Hopefully 6 weeks, 8 at the outside

[doc]

Yep ordered GTS in late June and been told Nov delivery, in black so good to see photo above, dealer commented that may be able to go to factory when it is coming down the HSV production line, will see if that eventuates.

[mjrandom]

XUV that one is black. I resized the shots and posted between meetings today so very short and sharp. Thanks again to Andrew for the pics. I like all the colours I have seen so far. Bit hard to tell inside the factory but the Prussian steel looks superb outside as I reckon they all will. Great backdrop for a photo as well.

Couple of days sightseeing, weathering a typhoon, another pineapple session then home to count the minutes until mine is ready to be picked up!

[mjrandom]

The black GTS, wow, that look amazing.
If I wasn't such a fussy bugger I would have gone for that.
The other wheels look great too, could happily have either.
I've always been partial to mesh designs but really wanted the exclusive GTS wheels.



I'm trying to find a woman to share the CLA with, open to offers. :serenade:



Hopefully our GTSs aren't going to be pawned by every visitor to the dealership :toetap:

The black is amazing but no way could I maintain that with a gravel driveway. Oh and I think pawing might be the least of the potential paint contaminants....

[LS3]

Great to see some pics of more colours, thanks to everyone for taking them and posting them up
I like the Prussian steel ,wasn't sure when I saw it in the showroom can't wait to see them in the flesh

[jaykay]

Aren't the first GTS's being delivered to dealerships on Monday ?

[doc]

Aren't the first GTS's being delivered to dealerships on Monday ?

When I enquired a few weeks back they said deliveries would start the week beginning 16th Sept, so sometime this week if they are still on schedule.

[doc]

Didn't get a bite last time I raised this but I still would prefer all black interior including roof lining, I have VE GTS and has black interior and just creates a more a aggressive environment! Understand lighter gives impression of more space and no doubt a cost issue presuming Holden deliver it this way, but can't help thinking it would just finish the car off. And before getting slammed for being a new GTS basher I'm not....I've ordered one but it is the one thing I would prefer was like the VE. Am I a lone hand on this opinion?

[Angeldust]

im with ya, my VY II SS was all black on black interior and so is my VZ clubbie.

I absolutely hate light coloroed roof lining etc on a dark seat interior.

[GTS LSA]

Just heard from my dealer, apparently mine has gone from Holden to HSV.... Build number 508 & due 11th Oct

Not a bad Bathurst present for myself :driving::drool::love::thumbsup:... ok I cant think of anymore

[Pickles]

Well guys, Who's gonna be the first to be able to give us all a first hand driving impression.....'cause I reckon the 1st GTS builds should be leaving HSV VERY shortly.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Vulture]

I'm pretty sure that the first GTS deliveries will happen this week. Not sure if it will end up being anyone on the forums though.

[DMW]

Spotted a black GTS on a car transporter in Inala (Brisbane) this afternoon
Sorry about the pic quality

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc468/ChoppedPS/2d0c9e4e-39cb-4b57-a354-69a9ac434996_zpsafadd897.jpg

[CLUBRED]

Watch out for some action at their holding yard in Acacia Ridge :driving: ...

[bouka]

Well guys, Who's gonna be the first to be able to give us all a first hand driving impression.....'cause I reckon the 1st GTS builds should be leaving HSV VERY shortly.
Cheers, Pickles.

They started leaving last week Martin.

Bums in seats very shortly.

[mjrandom]

Mine apparently is on its way North. Hopefully I can get it next week when I am back from typhoon land. FWIW a typhoon here is 4,572% nicer than a cyclone at home.

[seedyrom]

Spotted a black GTS on a car transporter in Inala (Brisbane) this afternoon
Sorry about the pic quality

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc468/ChoppedPS/2d0c9e4e-39cb-4b57-a354-69a9ac434996_zpsafadd897.jpg
What an eclectic mix of cars

[CLUBRED]

When mine was shipped (not a GTS :( ) it came via ceva in a canvas enclosed trailer (but I specifically requested it not be at the front like this car is) then it was transfered to a smaller truck like this one before it was delivered.

[Plenty]

When mine was shipped (not a GTS :( ) it came via ceva in a canvas enclosed trailer (but I specifically requested it not be at the front like this car is) then it was transfered to a smaller truck like this one before it was delivered.

I was thinking the same thing, at the front on a truck, insects, stones and road grime all over it! Not cool. Just waiting for the dealers useless "detailer" to induce swirls and scratches.

[Vulture]

I was thinking the same thing, at the front on a truck, insects, stones and road grime all over it! Not cool. Just waiting for the dealers useless "detailer" to induce swirls and scratches.

Damn right, especially on the black.

[jaykay]

Lucky it didn't hail like was forecast.....

Imagine if you were the owner waiting for your GTS to arrive at the dealership

[AD07]

I was thinking the same thing, at the front on a truck, insects, stones and road grime all over it! Not cool. Just waiting for the dealers useless "detailer" to induce swirls and scratches.

So you mean its going to get bugs, and road grime over it........godforbid that ever happens to a car!!!!!

[Plenty]

So you mean its going to get bugs, and road grime over it........godforbid that ever happens to a car!!!!!

Yeah god forbid you buy a $100k car and have it arrive brand new with scratches and swirls all over it! I mean it's going to get scratches eventually so why not deliver it with them on it.

Are you serious? Surely not......... It's a new car and should be treated as such until it's in the intended owners possession.

[AD07]

Yeah god forbid you buy a $100k car and have it arrive brand new with scratches and swirls all over it! I mean it's going to get scratches eventually so why not deliver it with them on it.

Are you serious? Surely not......... It's a new car and should be treated as such until it's in the intended owners possession.

Well, i doubt i would ever drop 100k on a car....but well done to those that have, or can.
And i never mentioned scratches or swirls.....thats something i WOULDNT put up with.
But if your 100k car cant handle bugs and road grime, maybe its not worth 100k.

[XUV]

Yeah god forbid you buy a $100k car and have it arrive brand new with scratches and swirls all over it! I mean it's going to get scratches eventually so why not deliver it with them on it.

Are you serious? Surely not......... It's a new car and should be treated as such until it's in the intended owners possession.

They probably give it a final buff at the caryard, one of those things that aren't/shouldn't be seen,

A bit like getting the big hammer to drop the ball joints, no one wants to be seen doing that and the average joe would be agog seeing that ;)

[Plenty]

Well, i doubt i would ever drop 100k on a car....but well done to those that have, or can.
And i never mentioned scratches or swirls.....thats something i WOULDNT put up with.
But if your 100k car cant handle bugs and road grime, maybe its not worth 100k.

It was more the point that once that crap is on the car some pimple faced "detailer" will scratch the shite out of it trying to remove it.

[SLE355]

The first one we've got was getting PD'd today.

[doc]

I'm pretty sure that the first GTS deliveries will happen this week. Not sure if it will end up being anyone on the forums though.

I saw two this morning at a Melb dealer being prepared for handover (one white and one prussian), i think one is getting picked up tomorrow morning.......so may just see one on the road shortly. Certainly the brakes look monstrous in the flesh, and really like the shadow(??) chrome work on the exhaust tips...and dare I say it, the rear end is really starting to grow on me (especially after viewing the Tander sideways action at Broadford...or wherever it was)....maybe the appeal of all that white smoke trailing out the rear is clouding my judgement (pardon the pun).

[Plenty]

Reading the latest Wheels magazine and there is a short article about the new Corvette (Gen V Lt1), the possibility of this engine making it into the HSV in the not to distant future is the only thing stopping me buying now. If our resident "rumour" man Bouka was able to throw out some clues?:popcorn:

The thought of the Lt1 in the Gen f makes me very excited, 338Kw and 630nm out of the box sounds like good numbers add to that the fuel numbers into the 7's on the Corvette.

[Vulture]

Reading the latest Wheels magazine and there is a short article about the new Corvette (Gen V Lt1).

Surely it's a given it will find its way into the HSVs? Especially with Holden falling behind in power with their ancient 6.0L still at 260-270kw. Not sure how this fits in with the LS3 going over to Holden (is there any other option for them?) which then allows HSV to get the LT1. Exciting also could be a Nissan 370z style rev match on the manuals (Corvette has it now) and flappy paddle shifts for the auto. I love showing off my heel and toe technique but the rev match on the 370 is that bloody good I almost never turn it off. It even allows double clutching on most changes (just not on 4th to 3rd). Only been turning it off lately to get ready for my GTS since I've been spoilt for so long. The LT1 is better than it looks at first glance too - check out the torque it makes at low rpm compared with the LS3. An auto Senator with an LT1? Yes please.

[Plenty]

Surely it's a given it will find its way into the HSVs? Especially with Holden falling behind in power with their ancient 6.0L still at 260-270kw. Not sure how this fits in with the LS3 going over to Holden (is there any other option for them?) which then allows HSV to get the LT1.
I doubt the Holden will ever see an LS version but there is another option and that is the L99, basically an LS3 but with reduced output and AFM. It has 300Kw and 560Nm.

[Vulture]

I doubt the Holden will ever see an LS version but there is another option and that is the L99, basically an LS3 but with reduced output and AFM. It has 300Kw and 560Nm.

Thanks. That does sound more likely.
Won't step on the toes of the late gen f HSV buyers getting the last of the LS3.

[jaykay]

Spotted a black GTS on a car transporter in Inala (Brisbane) this afternoon
Sorry about the pic quality

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc468/ChoppedPS/2d0c9e4e-39cb-4b57-a354-69a9ac434996_zpsafadd897.jpg

I believe Motorama at Springwood have this GTS at their yard....

[bouka]

Reading the latest Wheels magazine and there is a short article about the new Corvette (Gen V Lt1), the possibility of this engine making it into the HSV in the not to distant future is the only thing stopping me buying now. If our resident "rumour" man Bouka was able to throw out some clues?:popcorn:

The thought of the Lt1 in the Gen f makes me very excited, 338Kw and 630nm out of the box sounds like good numbers add to that the fuel numbers into the 7's on the Corvette.

A clue you say. I bought an R8 SV. I'm not that patient (or hopeful).

Just my opinion of course. Hope I'm wrong.

[CLUBRED]

I believe Motorama at Springwood have this GTS at their yard....

Motorama City

http://users.tpg.com.au/cmr05e//gts.JPG

https://www.facebook.com/MotoramaCoolCarWash

[mjrandom]

Surely the LT1 development will depend on the take up in the States for the Chevy SS? If demand is soft I doubt any development $ will be spent there and HSV won't even get their hands in the cookie jar. Support stateside and the LT1 should find its way into the HSV models. I assume there is plan for a force fed version of the LT1 but maybe that will be too late for the GTS? What would be interesting is GM taking a GTS to the states for evaluation. Then offer three different LSA models!

[korrupt]

I was thinking the same thing, at the front on a truck, insects, stones and road grime all over it! Not cool. Just waiting for the dealers useless "detailer" to induce swirls and scratches.

Must be too expensive to use the giant condoms that GM use on new Corvettes...

http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/104/395/6/S1043956/slug/l/00-corvette-c7-bowling-green-deliveries-1.jpg

[mjrandom]

Spoke to the dealer this morning and no news. Car is still in transit from Melbourne. Dealer will be notified when it arrives. Then about a week until it is mine. So the 26th plus or minus a couple of days is still looking the date.

As far as I know HSVs are transported to the distribution centre in covered wagons (transporters) and then moved around the city as above to the dealer pre delivery location. So I am guessing the black GTS was on its final journey.

[Vulture]

Hmm. Not looking good for me to get mine this month if yours is still that far off. :-(

[mjrandom]

Hmm. Not looking good for me to get mine this month if yours is still that far off. :-(

Different dealers different results I think. Keep nagging, I sure as hell will be!

[LJCHSV]

As far as I know HSVs are transported to the distribution centre in covered wagons (transporters) and then moved around the city as above to the dealer pre delivery location. So I am guessing the black GTS was on its final journey.

Spotted a white GTS with spoiler heading west over the west gate bridge with a carrier full of other HSV's getting trucked along about 4.45 this afternoon.

I see pre HSV's(coming from Adelaide) & post HSV's getting trucked all the time.... Sorry to bust your bubble but they're treated just like every other Australian made car...whacked on the back of a CEVA carrier.... Sometimes even a two car carrier...... Actually... I think toyota's get some protective film. HSV couldn't give a toss how your car is treated once it leaves their factory as its fully paid for.

[LS3]

I spoke to the dealer on Tuesday, car was due about the 20th now saying another week to 10 days , might be lucky to see it by the end of the month.

[mjrandom]

Bubble is fine, thanks. Not bothered one way or another really. Mine has apparently made it to Brisbane.

[[Mitch]]

Couple of pics I seen on Instagram

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa199/fusionclubbi/0D7CF4E4-7654-461D-8CEF-6ABCA2F15E78-443-000000441D0BE184_zps12c175dd.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa199/fusionclubbi/96FF851C-AA33-4717-9ACE-02B26750E158-443-000000442685E47A_zps21d66309.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa199/fusionclubbi/198DB155-04D5-4EC9-8A24-7EE1FF26A44E-443-0000004454DA61B9_zpsa84db944.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa199/fusionclubbi/525457F0-4979-4176-86B6-B52C6779F693-443-00000044219FFF40_zpscbdfd81b.jpg

[jaykay]

Read elsewhere that there may be an unsold perfect blue GTS at a dealership in Perth.....if true and you want to get one you could save a long wait....

Perfect blue GTS next to the bluey VK :drool:

[Plenty]

Read elsewhere that there may be an unsold perfect blue GTS at a dealership in Perth.....if true and you want to get one you could save a long wait....

Perfect blue GTS next to the bluey VK :drool:

Yep City Motors Holden has it in the yard awaiting someone to take it home, must say it looks shite in Perfect Blue but will probably appeal to some West Coast Eagles fan.

[68LS1]

I spoke to the dealer on Tuesday, car was due about the 20th now saying another week to 10 days , might be lucky to see it by the end of the month.

I was originally told Sept 17, then Sept 23, spoke with HSV yesterday, they start building it today, may leave end of next week to dealer. Not to pleased, placed deposit in April

[GTS LSA]

I like the blue & I am definitely not a west coast or parramatta supporter :hide:

but I like the sort of retro feel of the blue even though it isnt an actual bluey, I have had 2 red HSV's and 1 Black and I am not into silver..... I was either going to go white or blue

I have been told 11/10, but I assume anywhere from 1 to 3 weeks from that, based on dealers lie and HSV will have backlog & most likely parts issue, I hope you all get em before month end... I will just be happy when I get it regardless

[jaykay]

Yep City Motors Holden has it in the yard awaiting someone to take it home, must say it looks shite in Perfect Blue but will probably appeal to some West Coast Eagles fan.

I dare say once the cars start arriving at dealers there will be a stockiple of them by Xmas...let's face it they are a $100k driveaway car and that is a lot of money to finance..well out of reach for a lot of people....

[Plenty]

I like the blue & I am definitely not a west coast or parramatta supporter :hide:

but I like the sort of retro feel of the blue even though it isnt an actual bluey, I have had 2 red HSV's and 1 Black and I am not into silver..... I was either going to go white or blue

I have been told 11/10, but I assume anywhere from 1 to 3 weeks from that, based on dealers lie and HSV will have backlog & most likely parts issue, I hope you all get em before month end... I will just be happy when I get it regardless


lol it was only my opinion of course, but going by the photos it's not the pick of the colour.

Here is a few pics of it.

City Motors Holden (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.658090447548924.1073741828.461935330497771&type=1)

[GTS LSA]

No offence taken at all, thanks for the pics, i really want to see it in the flesh, hope i dont regret not getting white

[jaykay]

I don't mind the blue...I would however paint the calipers a different colour..probably blue like the car

[offshore]

Blue looks ok callipers probably be good in Silver. Although it may look great in the flesh as these cars for some reason dont look all that good in photos really

[Plenty]

I don't mind the blue...I would however paint the calipers a different colour..probably blue like the car

Yeah, agreed. I reckon that it is the calipers that ruin it for me as well. Perfect Blue is not a bad colour, they should have kept Voodoo (maybe slightly biased).

[GTS LSA]

Agreed re Voodoo and on The photos dont seem to do them justice, i dont mind the yellow callipers, but that might just be that mid life crisis thing, bit like choosing blue instead of a more "mature" colour

[jaykay]

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/jkgmh/image_zps1e6d2486.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/jkgmh/media/image_zps1e6d2486.jpg.html)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/jkgmh/image_zpsd1764793.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/jkgmh/media/image_zpsd1764793.jpg.html)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u164/jkgmh/image_zps02d63cea.jpg (http://s168.photobucket.com/user/jkgmh/media/image_zps02d63cea.jpg.html)

[jaykay]

Just heard a brand new Gen F GTS run up on a dyno...........349rwkw = 468rwhp.....

So maybe the factory 430kW is conservative...

[bouka]

That is a very good figure and at a very reputable shop.

Good times ahead!

[jaykay]

That is a very good figure and at a very reputable shop.

Good times ahead!

Wonder what yours would run up George ?

[bouka]

Wonder what yours would run up George ?

Approx 250 give or take jk. Although I don't know how eddies dyno reads. Lets see what other dynos show. Either way, looking forward to strip times.

What the gts power figure tells me is that there is some heavy torque tagging. On the dyno in 4th, this is not active so true power is evident. Much like the fpv sc gt's.

All the tests on r8 sv thus far have done sub 5 sec 0-100 ( 4.9, 4.8 and 4.8).

The gts performance figures will be very good with tune, pulley change.

[Ratsmow]

263 on sonnys dyno bouka, it's on YouTube.

[bouka]

263 on sonnys dyno bouka, it's on YouTube.

I saw that. Would be good to see a gts on same dyno.

Impressive so far for gts.

[jaykay]

The GTS is being tuned so we should see the gains tomorrow.....

Some early tuning has it just on 500rwhp......:goodjob:

[bouka]

The GTS is being tuned so we should see the gains tomorrow.....

Some early tuning has it just on 500rwhp......:goodjob:

Excellent!

[Alex(AUS)]

Just heard a brand new Gen F GTS run up on a dyno...........349rwkw = 468rwhp.....

So maybe the factory 430kW is conservative...

Wow!

Quite impressed. Which dyno is this?

Alex

[jaykay]

Wow!

Quite impressed. Which dyno is this?

Alex

Dyno Dynamics duel retarder

[Alex(AUS)]

Dyno Dynamics duel retarder

Sorry. I meant which dyno tuner / facility?

Alex

[vyls1wa]

Active automotive

[Vulture]

Jeebus!
Think I'll be asking PT/Walkinshaw to do a tune only on it if there are some gains to be had like that.
This is looking promising.

[JimmyXR6T04]

Hopefully the GTS will go about 390-400rwkw with a tune only. FPV's pick up about 40rwkw with a tune. Be interesting to see what mods are required next on the GTS. Tipping some good gains from some relatively cheap mods! Very excited to see some of these with mods

[white lie]

It will respond extremely well to more boost, E85 etc.
Plenty of people bag the smaller 1900 but it will still make very good power for minimal outlay.

[macca_779]

It will respond extremely well to more boost, E85 etc.
Plenty of people bag the smaller 1900 but it will still make very good power for minimal outlay.

Yep. Sure inlet temps rise considerably when you overdrive the 1900. But throw e85 at it and it becomes a mute point

[Stampy]

Christ all mighty, we have 2 SC V8's available in OZ, can we not be happy with that??????

[BLACK 346]

Yep. Sure inlet temps rise considerably when you overdrive the 1900. But throw e85 at it and it becomes a mute point

And probably a Moot Point at the same time.

[offshore]

Christ all mighty, we have 2 SC V8's available in OZ, can we not be happy with that??????

430kw is now the base power level in Australia. A few years ago a street car with 450 to 500hp was awesome now its 580 to 600hp as the base. And plenty of people are going to be driving around 700 to 800hp power levels totally streetable my self included in a few months lol.

[jaykay]

White GTS for sale in NSW..no waiting....

http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Holden-Special-Vehicles-GTS-2013/AGC-AD-14545281/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1

[Wonky]

They're obviously counting on people being desperate enough to pay a big premium to get one! :nutkick:

[adr8]

The drive away price seems thereabouts, see link :) http://www.hsvforum.com.au/showthread.php?12225-VF-GTS-what-prices-are-you-being-quoted

[offshore]

I got quoted 103k drive away. With that price you would want sun roof at least.

[GTS LSA]

^ Same as above for auto and including spare wheel

Got a bit off that, but mainly by playing with trades so saved about another 1k by the time you factor in the lower gst and lct

Can claim the 5.5 gst as paying cash which is a nice discount, but the lct is BS

[jaykay]

Jonathon Webbs new GTS delivered..be interesting to see what Tekno do with it

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.606618762714623.1073742074.158223027554201&type=1

[GTS LSA]

Must be a few from on here not too far away

[mjrandom]

I should be able to look at mine tomorrow in PD... Delivery a couple of days later. Was quoted the 26th a few weeks ago and it will be probably bang on.

[Vulture]

White GTS for sale in NSW..no waiting....

Cancelled order?


I should be able to look at mine tomorrow in PD... Delivery a couple of days later. Was quoted the 26th a few weeks ago and it will be probably bang on.

Get some pics!

[Pickles]

Yep. Sure inlet temps rise considerably when you overdrive the 1900. But throw e85 at it and it becomes a mute point
Mate, you may not believe this, but it's true...I do not understand what E85 is all about.....I presume it's got ethanol in it, which I thought didn't "burn" as efficiently as petrol. So an explanation, FOR ME any way, would be appreciated, as to how E85 "works", & how it will give more power in the application that we're talking about?
Thanks, Pickles.

[macca_779]

Mate, you may not believe this, but it's true...I do not understand what E85 is all about.....I presume it's got ethanol in it, which I thought didn't "burn" as efficiently as petrol. So an explanation, FOR ME any way, would be appreciated, as to how E85 "works", & how it will give more power in the application that we're talking about?
Thanks, Pickles.

Do a search on e85 run in boosted cars. High octane combined with the oxygen enriched properties of ethanol have proven time and time again to make power. You run more of it to get the power. But that's no problem if you have the overhead in your fuel system. It's good shit

[Pickles]

Do a search on e85 run in boosted cars. High octane combined with the oxygen enriched properties of ethanol have proven time and time again to make power. You run more of it to get the power. But that's no problem if you have the overhead in your fuel system. It's good shit
OK, Yeah, I had a bit of a read on Google....a bit complicated, but I think I understand that it has an octane rating of around 106, the engine has to be set up for E85 to get the best out of it, uses more fuel, but gains can be made around timing & higher boost pressures possible with E85?
Cheers, Pickles.

[macca_779]

OK, Yeah, I had a bit of a read on Google....a bit complicated, but I think I understand that it has an octane rating of around 106, the engine has to be set up for E85 to get the best out of it, uses more fuel, but gains can be made around timing & higher boost pressures possible with E85?
Cheers, Pickles.

I made a gain cam only so it's good for all of us since everyone is generally running higher than 10:1. More comp more gain

[offshore]

Its sort of like running methanol in race cars they use around twice the amount of fuel compared to gasoline powered cars but you can run more boost. Thats the way i remembered it from way back.