VF SSV Redline

[offshore]

Picked it up today. First impression is it needs at least another 100kw haha.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20130830_152331.jpg

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20130830_152320.jpg

[HOTSV8]

Congrats mate . Just got home from ordering the same .

[SV300]

That's one nice car... :)

So much value for money.


J

[offshore]

Yea in all honesty I cant think of a better car in the world worth buying. Even if the V8 5 series BMW was a similar price id still get the VF Redline there awesome cars. Just needs a bit more grunt. Im pretty sure now im going to go for torque instead of power. So supercharger is the go but alternatively id go for Higgins CNC heads and a cam combo for outright torque monster although stroker might be the go to.

[VFast]

The black (wheels) on white is a nice combo...
Enjoy!!!
Make sure you give us a write up when you get a bit more familiar with it.

[jc_sv8]

Wow, the white with black wheels is quite a standout!
Now the only problem I have is that I was chasing the black with chrome wheels, although the black on back may solve all my problems...

[blackvussii]

Very nice, congrats.
I wouldn't bother with a full Cnc on l92 heads, they breath well already. Maybe shave for compression if your going a cam but if you can afford it IMO a blower def the way to go. Easy to pull off later and sell for a good price and return the car to stock for sale.

[offshore]

Very nice, congrats.
I wouldn't bother with a full Cnc on l92 heads, they breath well already. Maybe shave for compression if your going a cam but if you can afford it IMO a blower def the way to go. Easy to pull off later and sell for a good price and return the car to stock for sale.

Yes blower is probably going on ive talked to Harrop about the FDFI 2300 but its going to wait till November or so. Ideally what I want is a 2.9 wipple but its more expense and stuffing around I would say.

The car is great any one thinking of getting one you cant go wrong honestly there are very few 4 door sedans in the world that can beat it for price and value and features. And I work all over the world and have driven a lot of cars in Europe especially. Holden have done an exceptional job with these cars just hope they can continue manufacturing in Australia but its looking pretty dodgy.

[BLACKVE]

Vf in white looks nice, really like the GTS in white

Not sure on the chrome handles....

Enjoy

[offshore]

Yea not sure of any of the chrome actually lol. I may get it all changed to black but it looks much better in person then it does in photos

[XUV]

Paint the Brembos yellow .

[VX-300]

Yea not sure of any of the chrome actually lol. I may get it all changed to black but it looks much better in person then it does in photos
There's VF accessory kits available from Holden for SSV in pre-painted Phantom Black for the following:
a) Upper and lower grille surrounds
b) DRL surrounds
c) Side fender vents
d) Lip Spoiler

[HOTSV8]

I've ordered mine with the black trims except boot spoiler . Think it should look ok .


There's VF accessory kits available from Holden for SSV in pre-painted Phantom Black for the following:
a) Upper and lower grille surrounds
b) DRL surrounds
c) Side fender vents
d) Lip Spoiler

[offshore]

There's VF accessory kits available from Holden for SSV in pre-painted Phantom Black for the following:
a) Upper and lower grille surrounds
b) DRL surrounds
c) Side fender vents
d) Lip Spoiler

Yea I know ive seen them at the dealer ill get around to it probably sooner or later

[offshore]

Paint the Brembos yellow .

No becaue im thinking of upgrading them maybe harrop ultimate. Although Alcon monobloc might be the go to.

[offshore]

Thats why the HSV R8 SV is actually good value because by the time I modify this Redline I may as well of just got the R8!

[VFast]

There's VF accessory kits available from Holden for SSV in pre-painted Phantom Black for the following:
a) Upper and lower grille surrounds
b) DRL surrounds
c) Side fender vents
d) Lip Spoiler

Does anyone know what these are priced at through a) Sales when you buy a new vehicle, and b) parts dept???

[offshore]

Does anyone know what these are priced at through a) Sales when you buy a new vehicle, and b) parts dept???

There pretty cheap the prices are listed on the holden website under accessories for the car

[arnie27]

GM Motorsport sells them as well, I would assume there after market ones though

[VFast]

GM Motorsport sells them as well, I would assume there after market ones though
GMM $449 for full VF gloss black trim kit.

does anyone know if you could remove the chrome from the original trim and have it painted? Would look nice with matching black badges etc.

[offshore]

Strange thing on this car is the badges nothing says Commodore or Holden besides the Lion badge on the front. Just SSV on the rear and SS on the side.

[VFast]

Strange thing on this car is the badges nothing says Commodore or Holden besides the Lion badge on the front. Just SSV on the rear and SS on the side.
Same deal as my my old VYII SS ute that I had from new. Only SS, series II and V8 badges. Not sure bout sedan model though.

[offshore]

Took it for a bit more a drive today havnt really got it past 5k due to it being so new but im probably wasting my time worrying about running it in. Its got good power for a stock car and probably more than enough for most people. Its a linear power delivery with more up high thats why im keen to try and get more down low. 3rd gear seems to be the sweet spot can go into low speed corners and leave it in 3rd and it just powers out. Handling is good and pretty composed and flat in corners but slow speed corners and fast turn in promotes a sort of rocking front to rear which is possibly the shocks. And you can feel the extra grip in the back with the 275 tyres thats one of the good things about the redline and worth getting just for that alone.

[XUV]

GMM $449 for full VF gloss black trim kit.

does anyone know if you could remove the chrome from the original trim and have it painted? Would look nice with matching black badges etc.

you could probably powder coat over the chrome.

[Wes Mantooth]

That Teknik car looks to have carbon fibre grill and side vent pieces. Not a bad look.

[HOTSV8]

Does anyone know what these are priced at through a) Sales when you buy a new vehicle, and b) parts dept???

Look on ebay . There appears to be a few holden dealers selling some genuine VF stuff , including the blacked out bits mentioned . A bit cheaper than on the holden site .

[SteveSSV]

Very nice, got the same, how long did you have to wait for delivery?

[offshore]

Very nice, got the same, how long did you have to wait for delivery?

Ordered it 6th July and it was ready around the 12th August but I wasnt ready to pick it up until the 30th

[farkford]

Does the Redline sedan come with a spare?
Just checked and the Redline ute has a repair kit and a big space under where the spare would go.
How would you go if you damaged tyre and rim? Should I be worried and get a spare?
Anyone had any experience with the repair kit?

[NickS]

Does the Redline sedan come with a spare?
Just checked and the Redline ute has a repair kit and a big space under where the spare would go.
How would you go if you damaged tyre and rim? Should I be worried and get a spare?
Anyone had any experience with the repair kit?

You can option a full size spare ... $385 (inc GST) from memory

[farkford]

Ok, but do you think it's needed?
Or do I just find a spare wheel that fits?

[offshore]

Ive got the full size spare it fits in the boot with the boot covering flat.

[offshore]

One thing ive noticed is the seats really dont offer enough lateral support given the cornering ability. Im not saying the corning is outstanding as I think there is alot of room for improvement if you want to go that way but it will compromise overall comfort for a street driven vehicle if major improvements where made to the suspension. But the seats need more support so I emailed the dealer to see if I can get HSV seats ordered for it.

[farkford]

Ive got the full size spare it fits in the boot with the boot covering flat.

I've got the ute so I can probably use anything as long as it clears the Brembos just not convinced the repair kit offers peace of mind

[farkford]

One thing ive noticed is the seats really dont offer enough lateral support given the cornering ability. Im not saying the corning is outstanding as I think there is alot of room for improvement if you want to go that way but it will compromise overall comfort for a street driven vehicle if major improvements where made to the suspension. But the seats need more support so I emailed the dealer to see if I can get HSV seats ordered for it.

What are you comparing the seats to? They seem heaps better than the VE SS?
Mind you I have only done around 100km city driving

[offshore]

Yea its just if you take it out for a fast drive on your favourite twisty bit of road your really hanging off the steering wheel a bit not supported by the seat sides it really does grip enough to really need better bolstered seats

[farkford]

Maybe the 20mm skunk stripe of Alcantara isn't enough. I haven't done any "spirited" driving yet but will keep it in mind.

[offshore]

I'm going to change the suspension but im going to have to have a good think because to get significantly better its hard to do without really compromising the ride around town. I really think some bilstein or WP coil overs. I could have a chat to jamie drummond as well because im familiar with his 50mm coil overs for rally cars but not sure if he makes steetable ones lol

[offshore]

I got a price on the HSV seats apparently if I want the GTS seats in my redline through spare parts im looking at between 10k and 11k hahahahahaha I had a good laugh when they told that. I guess I wont be doing that then.

[itsme4g63]

looks great, really dig the white!

[VFast]

I'm going to change the suspension but im going to have to have a good think because to get significantly better its hard to do without really compromising the ride around town. I really think some bilstein or WP coil overs. I could have a chat to jamie drummond as well because im familiar with his 50mm coil overs for rally cars but not sure if he makes steetable ones lol
WA Suspension here in Perth said the max they would go is 25-30mm lower with springs only and if I wanted it any lower I would have to go coilovers...

Does that make sense to anyone?

I am sure you can get it lower with springs only but maybe beyond that you might need short stroke shocks too?

[jaykay]

WA Suspension here in Perth said the max they would go is 25-30mm lower with springs only and if I wanted it any lower I would have to go coilovers...

Does that make sense to anyone?

I am sure you can get it lower with springs only but maybe beyond that you might need short stroke shocks too?

I remember the days of dropping the springs out of the HJ and oxy cutting the springs to drop it down...:lol:

I think they are right about the shocks if you drop it too much...

[VFast]

They didn't explicitly mention the need for shocks - and I didn't ask either as I was in a rush - but I know from experience that you are going to need short stroke shocks if you lower it too much. In my old VY SS ute the front would bottom out if it hit say a storm water cover or similar bump in the road at speed.

[Wonky]

WA Suspension here in Perth said the max they would go is 25-30mm lower with springs only and if I wanted it any lower I would have to go coilovers...

Does that make sense to anyone?

I am sure you can get it lower with springs only but maybe beyond that you might need short stroke shocks too?

IMO they're half right - if they meant only 25 - 30 mm with stock shocks they're right, but not everybody can afford coilovers which are a substantial jump in price over springs and shocks - new King springs with Monroe GT short shocks are just under $700 on eBay (assuming VE stuff suits VF) plus allow around $300 for fitting and 4 wheel alignment. Most coilovers are double that and more, typically not including fitting. That's a big premium to pay if you're mainly interested in looks with better handling but not optimum handling.

Plenty of us on here have run Kings and Monroes down to almost 70mm lower without sacrificing comfort, although some guys who push their cars harder feel the King/Monroe combination is a bit soft in the rear when pushed so have gone to HD King springs with the Monroes - apparently pretty good! Other more expensive options include Koni yellows which everybody seems pretty pleased with.

My old SSV sedan on Kings & Monroes then my ute - seemed fine to me!!

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV/Wonkymobile-LS1cruiseSep08.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gcovo/media/SSV/Wonkymobile-LS1cruiseSep08.jpg.html)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/ssvute140apr062011sm.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/gcovo/media/SSV%20Ute/ssvute140apr062011sm.jpg.html)

[VFast]

Thanks Wonky, that is what I would have expected. I will have to grill them more when I am a bit closer to getting it done. I ain't keen on spending $1850 for coilovers when I can get the result I want for a considerable saving.

[Rohaboat]

What's the FE3 suspension like? firm but still comfortable?

[VFast]

Offshore, have you measured the hub-to-guard distance for the FE3 suspension?

On my SSV I measure 400mm HTG front, and 410mm rear. The SSV Redline looks a touch lower to me...

[offshore]

No havnt measured it and I cant at the moment as im in Malaysia back mid October. I'm probably going to get the KW suspension from Harrop. I'm just deciding whether to go Suspension and brakes and diff and possibly wheels first or the other way around Supercharger and exhaust first. Wheels im probably going with Speedline GA1R 20x9 and 20x10 or GA3

FE3 is firmer but its still comfortable for me if your not right into performance but still like the V8 and the technology then get the Calais V as its more comfortable.

[farkford]

I've got the ute so I can probably use anything as long as it clears the Brembos just not convinced the repair kit offers peace of mind

I think I was right
Just got ran into and have a damaged rim and tyre. Insurance company are going to arranged to get it towed because I don't have a spare. No wonder our premiums go up
Might go and drown my sorries at a grand final BBQ

[VFast]

I think I was right
Just got ran into and have a damaged rim and tyre. Insurance company are going to arranged to get it towed because I don't have a spare. No wonder our premiums go up
Might go and drown my sorries at a grand final BBQ
That sucks a**e mate. Hopefully not too damaged?

The first dent, scratch or smash always hurts the most...

[offshore]

I slightly scratched my right hand rim on the curb when parking should have used the automatic parking feature haha.

[Wes Mantooth]

Funnily enough, I tried using the auto park thingy and thought it was getting uncomfortably close to the kerb so I just did it myself.

[offshore]

Ive only used it 3 times and that was only just to show some people that it actually worked lol.

[jaykay]

Ive only used it 3 times and that was only just to show some people that it actually worked lol.

Yeah funny that...I have only used it to show people too......when I did the perpendicular option the car finished on an angle because the car on the drivers side next to me was on the angle....

[YUW15H]

Fk, nice car mate!

[offshore]

Bit of driving on dirt today and as expected electric hand brake doesnt do 180 hand brake turns. The cops will need a hydraulic hand brake installed for that sort of fun and games.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20131018_150225.jpg

[Crusty]

Looks like you took half the dirt road for a ride in that rim :)

[offshore]

Yea it picks up heaps of dust. And i have to dust the inside now to as i left the sun roof open when i was reversing back into a dust cloud lol. I didnt trash the car on the dirt I was just driving out to check out a farm its ok on dirt but the low profile tyres are not the best and the edge of the rim is very exposed to any rocks that kick up.

[offshore]

Redline exhaust

Front section is mandrel bent some of sort of stainless steel 2.25 inch by the looks of it havnt measured it though.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20131023_175458.jpg

And the back part which is mandrel bent except the bit between the front muffler and the hotdogs which is all a bit messy.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20131023_175505.jpg

[VFast]

Okay spill the beans - what exhaust have you just fitted?

[HOTSV8]

Looks rather ordinary . As VFast says , show us the new goodies ......:driving:

[offshore]

I'll post them up when i get it back

Current mods are
difilippo 1 7/8 ceramic extractors 3inch exhaust
VCM OTR
Tune
Harrop eaton true track ratio around 3.7 find out tomorrow I didnt want to go to low like 3.9 because of big HP later

Next mods are suspension brakes then supercharger or LSX 454 - 500 cube

[Drizt]

I'll post them up when i get it back

Current mods are
difilippo 1 7/8 ceramic extractors 3inch exhaust
VCM OTR
Tune
Harrop eaton true track ratio around 3.7 find out tomorrow I didnt want to go to low like 3.9 because of big HP later

Next mods are suspension brakes then supercharger or LSX 454 - 500 cube

Is the trutrack noisy?

[IJ.]

Is the trutrack noisy?
They should be silent.

[VFast]

Before and After rwkw?

[Drizt]

They should be silent.

I was told they would make my diff noisier. *shrugs*

[IJ.]

I was told they would make my diff noisier. *shrugs*
They're a gear type LSD so in constant mesh, mine is silent in operation it's not like it's a "Locker" that clanks and bangs as it engages.

"Might" be noisier if someone screws up the install and doesn't get the the Preload, pinion depth or lash right but that applies to any diff.

[offshore]

No idea mate most of my cars previously have been 4wd turbos so not sure about the diff but I wanted to get a decent one and the true tracks seem to be the go.

[offshore]

Before and After rwkw?

Yea I will get it this week when i get the car it was a last minute thing to get the diff to. Brakes will probably be harrop ultimates I havnt decided yet the best are probably Alcon mono bloc from what ive seen in WRC rally cars.

[Drizt]

Cheers.

I guess a trutrack is back on my shopping list.

[offshore]

The diff is good if you can afford it but its a waste of money really if its just a street car daily driver.

[IJ.]

The diff is good if you can afford it but its a waste of money really if its just a street car daily driver.
Don't know about that, they're very predictable and consistant as they don't have clutches to wear, you don't get the part throttle understeer of a conventional LSD and if you buy the Eaton unit they're not too bad price wise compared to the Harrop billet ones.

Would be nicer if there was a true Torsen style Diff available for our cars but the TrueTrac is an improvement on a conventional LSD.

[offshore]

Actually I shouldn't say a waste of money cause its good in the pursuit of performance. I only said that thinking back on the money ive wasted in the past but you only live once so go for it thats what i say.

[offshore]

Yes you can feel the rear end when hard into a corner in 2nd or 3rd in revs near peak torque it squirms abit and dosnt feel right thats the stock diff.

[offshore]

A couple of pics so far

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20131030_132616.jpg

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20131030_133147.jpg

[Conchi]

Nice work.

Are Holden cutting costs ? No radiator cap :confused:

[offshore]

Yea haha coolent was being topped up at the time of the photo.

[VFast]

Looks nice mate. Any update on before/after power levels?

[offshore]

Looks nice mate. Any update on before/after power levels?

Not yet but it should be ready tomorrow morning I did hear it today though its bloody loud but it was inside it sounded pretty aggressive V8 sound. Ill get a vid tomorrow as a mate and I are picking it up and driving from Canberra to Sydney. Ive been really tempted by the bigger engines either LS7 427 or bigger lsx but im thinking now im probably better going for the supercharger my mate reckons the exhaust is awesome for forced induction! But its also easier less cost overall then going for the big motor build.

[offshore]

I remember seeing on another forum some one had an LSX 454 crate motor for sale for about 12k if I could get one for that id be interested in getting some higgins heads on it with light weight del west titanium intake and suitable exhaust valves so it can go to about 7200 or 7500rpm with a suitable hydraulic roller cam and possibly harrop 8 throttle body inlet.

[offshore]

It made 260kw at the wheels not to much really but it feels like it made a bit more then that. It revs a lot faster and swings around to 6000rpm pretty quick. The biggest surprise is the 3inch Difillipo exhaust bloody awesome as it doesnt drone at all and sounds similar to V8 supercars main difference with those cars is the 7500rpm limit so this one only revving in the 4 to 6k rev range doesnt have the same urgency as one at 7000rpm plus but its a great sound. It really barks when your giving it and has a deep growl but when your just cruising its quite and with the more insulated cabin in the VF series its almost like stock. You definitely get noticed though if you give it some and it will easily attract the cops if in town but only if you get up it so im pretty happy with it.

[GTS LSA]

As long as ur happy that's the key... 260 - 265 is that about standard exhaust cold air tune these days .. I Cant remember.. I think my 07 Maloo R8 was about that RWKW...

[offshore]

As long as ur happy that's the key... 260 - 265 is that about standard exhaust cold air tune these days .. I Cant remember.. I think my 07 Maloo R8 was about that RWKW...

Yea im happy with it for now but supercharger will be better for the street. Main reason is normally aspirated when you go for more power its higher up in the rev range even now 6000rpm limit in mine is to low it races around to it quickly. With heads and cam ill have to increase revs to about 7500 I reckon and when your doing that your way over the speed limit quickly in 2nd gear and loud. Where as supercharger you can punch out of corners at lower rpms.

[VFast]

=offshore;2098623]It made 260kw at the wheels not to much really but it feels like it made a bit more then that. It revs a lot faster and swings around to 6000rpm pretty quick. The biggest surprise is the 3inch Difillipo exhaust bloody awesome as it doesnt drone at all and sounds similar to V8 supercars main difference with those cars is the 7500rpm limit so this one only revving in the 4 to 6k rev range doesnt have the same urgency as one at 7000rpm plus but its a great sound. It really barks when your giving it and has a deep growl but when your just cruising its quite and with the more insulated cabin in the VF series its almost like stock. You definitely get noticed though if you give it some and it will easily attract the cops if in town but only if you get up it so im pretty happy with it.[/QUOTE]
Interesting result. The only comparable bolt-on figure I have seen is GMM 259rwkw from just a Ramjet and tune on a M6 VF SSV - maybe a happier dyno (Mainline)?

Any who as we know they are just results on the day.

[offshore]

The true trac diff is good but i havnt really put it through its passes properly but the big difference is the back end feels flat like its working as one when hard on it in a corner the grip levels a up quit a bit higher then before. Before with the stock lsd it sort of squirms about this just seems to grip and stays stable wheel spin starts but you can feel it transferring over and it just grips. But it needs suspension now as you can feel the stock stuff is a bit soft like it needs to be tighter all around

[VFast]

WA Susp in Perth said the max they would go is 25-30mm lower with springs only and if I wanted it any lower I would have to go coilovers...

Does that make sense to anyone?

I am sure you can get it lower with springs only but maybe beyond that you might need short stroke shocks too?
Ok spoke to them again today - seems aftermarket short stroke shocks are not available as yet and they didn't have any idea on when they would be.

They did say the lowest you could safely go without short stroke shocks is 375mm htg which is 25 lower at front and 35 lower than rear at present.

Decisions decisions...

[offshore]

Ok spoke to them again today - seems aftermarket short stroke shocks are not available as yet and they didn't have any idea on when they would be.

They did say the lowest you could safely go without short stroke shocks is 375mm htg which is 25 lower at front and 35 lower than rear at present.

Decisions decisions...

Im going for the Harrop KW on my next mod plus i want check all the bushes maybe change a few and go over the geometry as i want to tighten the whole car up.

[offshore]

I got a gopro 3+ black addition and took this video at 720p on the dash. Doesn't really give an idea of the note to much Ill have to do one outside pretty happy with the camera though really high quality stuff for such a tiny device.


http://youtu.be/za97By37DwI

[Drizt]

What did the go pro set you back? I'm looking for such a device at the moment.

Sounds nice too mate. A very nice place to be I would imagine :)

[offshore]

Here is one from the outside. Closed road and no wombats dolphins penguins or small children where harmed in the making of this video.

http://s708.photobucket.com/user/shauno_01/media/VF%20SSV%20Redline/ssvredline.mp4.html

[offshore]

Go pro was the top one and its about 575 from dick smith. Well worth getting there really easy to use i control mine from my Galaxy S4 phone.

[Drizt]

Cheers. I'll have a look

I assume you got the Black 3+ ?

[offshore]

Cheers. I'll have a look

I assume you got the Black 3+ ?

yep thats one you need to get an sd card or a micro sd and sd adapter it accepts up to 64gb versions it can record upto 4k or 4k 17:9 resolution at water proof to 40m thinking of attaching mine to a fishing line and checking out a few trout streams haha

[offshore]

http://youtu.be/glH6m2CmRXA

[Drizt]

Sounds good mate.

[WazaLs1]

sounds great. cant wait till I get mine. might have to wait till next year.
I picked up the black gopro from harveys for 468 :-)

[SV300]

I'm still in two minds between the redline and base clubby purely based on price without stretching to the R8....

Gota say that white looks great and drove one with pacemaker exhaust and Otr intake which made 260rwkw also

Great car

J

[offshore]

Thought id bring this thread up to add some updates.

Been thinking of mods for a while was going to just do the cam and heads but made up my mind to supercharge it now.

Going for the Harrop FDFI2300 pretty much as is without cam change because i need the cash for other things but decided no point stuffing around with other mods just go straight for the supercharger. And ill get the Chev valve covers with the coils relocated at the same time.

Tempted to get the toothed belt as well unless its way over the top noise. If it makes a bit of noise be ok.

Im away at work at the moment so going to get this done in May.

[offshore]

Adding a bit to the mods now as you do! Going for cam change and Higgins heads as well.

Anyway its almost certainly the Harrop FDFI2300 but Ive also got the 2.9 Whipple priced now as well which works out to be about $3000 more all up compared with going for the 2300 Harrop. I wouldn't mind going with the Whipple just to do something different really as most seem to have the Eaton blowers but I don't think I want to spend the extra $3000. It doesn't seem like a lot compared to the cost off every thing else but its a lot more than what I was originally planning on spending.

Still getting this done in first week of May and than after this its suspension

[offshore]

still looking for a brake upgrade? I have a set of 2010 HSV brakes if you are interested

No thanks mate brakes im getting are better and bigger than HSV.

[Drizt]

Have you thought about the heartbeat supercharger? They seem to get fantastic results.

[Djbarnstar]

I like the idea of the whipple. Good re-sale too when the time comes.

What about dropping an LSA in it and selling off the L98?

12K for the LSA + say 3K of farking around then sell the L98 for say 4K. That's 11K. Probably cheaper than the blower heads cam.

[offshore]

I like the idea of the whipple. Good re-sale too when the time comes.

What about dropping an LSA in it and selling off the L98?

12K for the LSA + say 3K of farking around then sell the L98 for say 4K. That's 11K. Probably cheaper than the blower heads cam.

Ive looked at the LSA but I dont like the fact its an iron block because im setting this car up to handle so I dont want the extra weight on the front. Im tempted to go with a Dart next alloy block as the basis and stick with about 427 cubes and about 9to1 compression instead of going bigger. If I do this ill get it all together slowly this year and once built I can just stick the blower ontop. So its not wasting to much money really as I can still use some of the stuff from this motor.

[IJ.]

Ive looked at the LSA but I dont like the fact its an iron block because im setting this car up to handle so I dont want the extra weight on the front. Im tempted to go with a Dart next alloy block as the basis and stick with about 427 cubes and about 9to1 compression instead of going bigger. If I do this ill get it all together slowly this year and once built I can just stick the blower ontop. So its not wasting to much money really as I can still use some of the stuff from this motor.
Correct me if I'm wrong but an LSA is built on an Alloy LS3 Engine...

Only thing it has going against it if you're looking to go 427 later is the little 1900 blower.

[offshore]

Correct me if I'm wrong but an LSA is built on an Alloy LS3 Engine...

Only thing it has going against it if you're looking to go 427 later is the little 1900 blower.

Oh yea sorry I was thinking of LSX. True the LSA is an option and its one I had thought about.

[offshore]

I just sent an email to holmart regarding the LSA because that might be the go if i can get one. Cause it might be easier to use this to go to 427 cubes later on. The only thing is its going to be roughly the same cost i think as my harrop FDFI2300 plus higgins heads and cam quote for my L77. Because holmart want 13500 for it comes with the twin plate clutch though.

[Wonky]

See also http://www.pmparts.com.au/surplusparts/index.php/engine :thumbsup:

[offshore]

See also http://www.pmparts.com.au/surplusparts/index.php/engine :thumbsup:

Yea cheers I saw that earlier and I emailed them as well so ill see what happens tomorrow. If its a pretty easy install job them ill go with the LSA and cam job. :bravo:

[Wonky]

I regularly buy all my parts from them and whilst I've never bought anything anywhere near as expensive as that from them they've always been very good to deal with.

[offshore]

I regularly buy all my parts from them and whilst I've never bought anything anywhere near as expensive as that from them they've always been very good to deal with.

Ok thanks Wonky will be interesting some of them say for auto only. So I wonder if that means the wiring loom is different from the manual. My car is 6m so if it is ill need the manual version. The holmart one is more expensive but it comes with the clutch . I'll see what they say I hope i can get this installed easily as it will be great to mod further in the future.

[chargedvx6]

Have you tried Eagle auto parts in Dandenong, Vic for pricing? They're a Gm parts direct seller. They have more than 100 LFA in stock

03 8710 3000

[offshore]

Not sure were you got 100 from i just talked to them and they have only a few left out of 11 from the last lot they got. 13200 for the manual version. Anyway I can get it cheaper from a another place I just have to work out a few things now as this changes all my plans lol. And its bloody hard to organise things from where I am at the moment.

[chargedvx6]

Not sure were you got 100 from i just talked to them and they have only a few left out of 11 from the last lot they got. 13200 for the manual version. Anyway I can get it cheaper from a another place I just have to work out a few things now as this changes all my plans lol. And its bloody hard to organise things from where I am at the moment.

Lol, I don't work there and may have mixed up another variant. Does the cheaper place have warranty? I'm pretty sure that Eagle does and maybe better than others but yeah, money talks hey ;)

[IJ.]

Don't see a lot of sense in an LSA if the plan is to go 427 in the future as the Blower is no where big enough to support the extra cubes...

[offshore]

Don't see a lot of sense in an LSA if the plan is to go 427 in the future as the Blower is no where big enough to support the extra cubes...

Have a read on the US sites the LSA motor is bloody good the block and heads are basically the same as LS9 and stiffer than the LS3. A guy on ls1tec even cut some heads in half and said the metal was way harder to cut. Motor should be great to modify in the future i reckon. Can change the blower still.

[Micks]

As IJ was eluding to, better to work your requirements now as buying an LSA atm then stroking later could end up being prohibitive!
Maybe most cost effective in a LSX block your choice of rotating assy, Heads, Cam & FI to suit? Probably an absolute bullet proof solution!! Good luck with your build.

[offshore]

To late guys its done!

Ive bought the HSV LSA engine really good price $11000 and it came with clutch so not to bad. The way I see it and as i mentioned in the other thread its a way better motor for mods than my L77. I was really struggling to work out what was best and i had about 10 options i was thinking of. And im pretty happy going this way. I dont think ill even need to worry about going to 427 with this it should be easy 600hp and if i just change the rods and pistons and different blower its 800hp or whatever is max on 98 fuel. Its not going to be setup for drags anyway its mainly street and some events like temora and hill climbs and dutton type rallys.

[Micks]

No worries you have an excellent motor there in the LSA! Enjoy!! Looks like you have an L77 for sale shortly then?

[offshore]

No worries you have an excellent motor there in the LSA! Enjoy!! Looks like you have an L77 for sale shortly then?

Yep L77 for sale out of Melbourne. Im thinking maybe $4500 seems like a good price as there about 6500 for sale new. This one has about 7500kms on it.

[Micks]

Could be a reasonable way for someone good on the spanners to get themselves into a nice 6L! DOD delete kit, springs & Cam. Could net them 300rwkw+

[offshore]

Could be a reasonable way for someone good on the spanners to get themselves into a nice 6L! DOD delete kit, springs & Cam. Could net them 300rwkw+

Yep this is being done at HPF melbourne so they could utilize there sale at the moment for Higgins heads and cam package for $4500 get this installed on the motor while its there and get an easy 300kw no worries.

[IJ.]

The 77 wouldn't have gone to 427 anyway with the 4" liners in it..

[offshore]

The 77 wouldn't have gone to 427 anyway with the 4" liners in it..

Yea I know thats why I was thinking of an after market block. And by the time i put a blower on the L77 with cam it would have cost me around 16k. And in the end if i wanted to go a lot more i would had to build another motor on top of that. So I reckon the LSA was probably a good choice. Other people might think going for an LSX or something might have been better but this will do.

[IJ.]

All depends on what power you want to achieve in the end, my thing is built on an stock bore L98 with a 4" crank and has more than enough go for me ;)

[offshore]

Yea ill probably be happy with this its going to have enough grunt for the street. Mind you its never ending the search for more grunt lol.

[IJ.]

Yea ill probably be happy with this its going to have enough grunt for the street. Mind you its never ending the search for more grunt lol.
Can only put down so much with 2wd ;)

I'd do all the basic upgrades and see how you like it before springing for any Major Upgrades, you might be surprised.
(I'm assuming this is to be a fast road car and not a Track Car on Slicks)

[offshore]

Can only put down so much with 2wd ;)

I'd do all the basic upgrades and see how you like it before springing for any Major Upgrades, you might be surprised.
(I'm assuming this is to be a fast road car and not a Track Car on Slicks)

Yep road car but going to do the odd event. Will be doing the suspension next it already has a harrop true track and 3.7.

[Micks]

All depends on what power you want to achieve in the end, my thing is built on an stock bore L98 with a 4" crank and has more than enough go for me ;)
You can say that again have a ruined set of Reg Grundy's to prove it ffs!! :rofl:

[IJ.]

You can say that again have a ruined set of Reg Grundy's to prove it ffs!! :rofl:
It was a wet day I couldn't push all that hard :)

[offshore]

You can say that again have a ruined set of Reg Grundy's to prove it ffs!! :rofl:

I wasted about $50,000 on Subaru mods in the past :confused:

[Micks]

It was a wet day I couldn't push all that hard :)
Too much info! :lmao:

[IJ.]

Too much info! :lmao:

The Car Mick! :p

[Micks]

The Car Mick! :p

Whaddya think I was talkin about? :lol:

[IJ.]

Whaddya think I was talkin about? :lol:
Not really sure Mick but it was starting to sound like wishful thinking on your part ;)

[Micks]

Certainly Not IJ! :nono:

[offshore]

Might as well update this thread now lol.

Car is now complete with LSA GT9 cam 25% over drive pulleys. 600rwhp.

The two other things that make the car really good is the Harrop short shift and true track. The short shift is major improvement the stock shift is basically a truck shift. Ive never worked out why they bring it out like that from the factory!

The LSA motor is is all about torque and response the little 1900 supercharger spins up really quick so as soon as you touch the accelerator it just goes its awesome for roll ons against other cars lol. Ive already done an R33GTR and a couple of turbo fords. Problem is traction you loose it in 2nd gear and if you shift hard into 3rd you will loose it in 3rd to and smoke it down the road. Not saying anything against those cars mentioned though cause i know there are plenty of way faster cars then mine getting around. The other thing about this motor is it feels better than stock it terms of just feeling more refined. Just driving slowly around town its like it was factory fitted and heaps nicer to drive because of the torque.

[blackvussii]

Top job! Good to hear your happy with it. Followed the install and read a lot on the cts-v and zl-1 forums on what they are getting out of the lsa. Pretty cool option compared to just bolting a blower on and good resale down the track I think.
Any plans to run it down the 1/4?

[offshore]

I want to give the 1/4 a go but have to sort out the tyres and there isnt a track in Canberra so ill have to go to Sydney one night. Being a manual and I havnt been drag racing before so ill be slow but ill be happy to get into the 11s.

It sounds ok you can hear the blower easy from outside as its driving around the DF exhaust sounds better now to with the extra flow going through it and the cam while its designed to be good idling you can still tell its got a cam in it. Drove it around the other night and got asked if there was a cam in it surprises the hell out of people that its got an LSA in it. Its a really good sleeper except for the fact the various noises it makes lol.

[offshore]

quick vid i took just how it sounds driving quietly ill take a few more later i think ill need bimodal mufflers cause it really barks when you get on it


http://youtu.be/EL-g8VFCsJE

[whitels1ss]

Sounds fantastic mate, bet you are very happy with it:goodjob:

[Junkee]

Nice car mate =)

[Micks]

Yep OS can't wait to here it again once you put a few more miles on her :drool:

[offshore]

Yep OS can't wait to here it again once you put a few more miles on her :drool:

Swapped the battery out today for much better one for some reason the original seemed to vary in voltage a bit and was sluggish on the start and went flat during the install so got the best one they had 760amp up from the 540amp much better now. Apart from that its bloody awesome to drive its a lot different sounding now though im going to have to quieten a bit i think because when you open it up it scares small children in Norway.

[Micks]

Swapped the battery out today for much better one for some reason the original seemed to vary in voltage a bit and was sluggish on the start and went flat during the install so got the best one they had 760amp up from the 540amp much better now. Apart from that its bloody awesome to drive its a lot different sounding now though im going to have to quieten a bit i think because when you open it up it scares small children in Norway.

No don't worry about the bloody kids in Norway ffs!! The sound will grow on you & then you'll want more!!

[offshore]

No don't worry about the bloody kids in Norway ffs!! The sound will grow on you & then you'll want more!!

Yea except it attracts boys in blue lol.

[Micks]

Yea except it attracts boys in blue lol.

Just quietly the Boys in Blue will probably like it as well!

[offshore]

Just quietly the Boys in Blue will probably like it as well!

Yea well just quietly one of them did let me off today with just a chat! Which I was very happy about lol.

[offshore]

The other thing this is the first car ive had where i now think the power is ok. All other cars your always thinking you need more grunt this one now the power is described as adequate.

[jaykay]

The other thing this is the first car ive had where i now think the power is ok. All other cars your always thinking you need more grunt this one now the power is described as adequate.

That will change soon

[Micks]

Too right John once the "power bug sets in" :yup:

[offshore]

That will change soon

Yea I know. Im going to do a few more things to this but you can only use so much on the street. I think a dedicated race car might be the go which can still drive to events with a rally license but there you go more expense it never ends.

[VFast]

Top job offshore.

I am sure it makes a fantastic sleeper - looks tough enough in the SSV Redline kit but with the go of a modded GTS. Doesnt get much better than that!

Pretty certain it will confuse a few punters in the know when they hear it or peek under the bonnet.

More photos too please!!!

[offshore]

Top job offshore.

I am sure it makes a fantastic sleeper - looks tough enough in the SSV Redline kit but with the go of a modded GTS. Doesnt get much better than that!

Pretty certain it will confuse a few punters in the know when they hear it or peek under the bonnet.

More photos too please!!!

Its confused a few already big time. And the interesting thing ive found with this is against a few turbo fords on a closed road of course! You can wait till they go first and there is a slight lag in the turbo but this thing is just instant so it takes off and you beat them every time upto a point mind you lol because I know there are some out there with big power on E85.

[Micks]

@ OS don't lower yourself in comparison to alt. brand ffs!!:lol:

[offshore]

@ OS don't lower yourself in comparison to alt. brand ffs!!:lol:

haha i know its tragic ha. but you cant help it had to test it out on a few of the try hards.

[offshore]

Made a few vids last night but pretty crappy sound but manged to get this one with a bit of LSA blower noise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXb4YCOGvU&feature=youtu.be

[Drizt]

Love it :)

[Djbarnstar]

Nice! And it's getting colder by the second here in Canberra:bravo:

[HOTSV8]

hats off to you for going down this path . You have done very well .

[team illucid]

Sounds great, not stupid loud, just right amount of aggro - cops wouldn't even glance twice here at it.

[whitels1ss]

Made a few vids last night but pretty crappy sound but manged to get this one with a bit of LSA blower noise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSXb4YCOGvU&feature=youtu.be

Looks like you have it pretty much sorted mate.

Great work.

Love the sleepers:goodjob:

[offshore]

Going to be getting some wheels for this and want to know what people think of this gun metal grey colour. As opposed to the matte black. I know black looks good on the white car but was thinking of the gunmetal grey for some thing different. The hubs on these are different but its the same wheel

Gunmetal

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/GA1R_gunmetal.jpg

Matte Black

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/GA1R_matte.jpg

[dgp]

The grey looks horn

[Micks]

The grey looks horn

+1 on the grey :yup:

[offshore]

Yea ive sent an email off earlier about the grey one. I was going to get 19s for the tyre choice but changed my mind getting 20x10 and 20x9 price is going to be stupid but its got to be done you only live once!

[Micks]

Best to get that new found power down to the road! ;)

[offshore]

There forged monoblock so will cut some weight out of the car but easiest way for the car to loose weight is for me to not eat for about 3 months!

[Micks]

Feeding ya too well on the ship huh!

[offshore]

Yea you have to be carefull out here you can eat way to much and not exercise! We are around 61N at the moment West of the Shetlands its about 19 hours of sunlight but the Sun only just dips below the horizon around 1130pm so its never fully dark its just like late dusk and then it gets brighter and pops back up around 4am or so lol. And its about 11c max.

[offshore]

Bit of an update on this thing.

Got the wheels on order with the tyres Michelin Pilot super sports 255 on the front and im waiting to hear back on 295 fitment at the back if not than 285. Coil overs going on are the harrop KW ones. I was thinking of getting some other suspension for this which would have cost a lot more but I decided it wasn't warranted as its still mainly a street car. No point using race type setups on this.

And ive just got a few more things to do to the engine which are basically fuel system and 1000cc or+ injectors and E85 plus next size up on the lower pulley for 31% overdriven. Which is the sensible max for this blower. And then well see what it gets and then after that pull it down for pistons and rods maybe haha. oh and bigger blower

[offshore]

Draging this thread up to update it.

Final results are 743hp at the wheels way more then I ever thought id try to get at the start but as you do things get out of hand I wanted to see what the LSA could do.

Engine work is over and done with not sure how long it will last! May have to pull it down next year and put rods pistons etc in it.

List of engine mods is this

LSA 6.2 engine
GT9 Cam 215/247 duration @ .050 lift .629/.656 with 1.7 rocker 121 CL
Mast LS3 256cc 11 Degree 4.000"+ Bore heads
Pac 1208x double springs .750 lift max
Yella Terror Mast roller rockers
Stainless valves with hollow intake
Morel 5206 lifters
Crow 3/8 pushrods 8.25 inch
9.17 inch lower pulley
2.55 inch 10 bolt top pulley and solid isolator coupling
8rib belt drive
38% overdrive 23400 rpm blower speed at 6500rpm
Cold air intake and K&N filter
Harrop front intercooler heat exchanger and pump
Harrop oil cooler
Squash performance twin intank DW E85 pumps
KPM 1500cc EV14 injectors
DiFilippo 1 7/8 ceramic headers 3 inch exhaust

The other mods so far are 3.7 harrop true trac and harrop short shift and Forgeline GAR1 wheels

98 tune

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/boost.png

E85 tune

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/E85tune.jpg

[IJ.]

Well done, how does it drive?

[jaykay]

Nice number :goodjob:..did you end up getting the wheels ??

[offshore]

Nice number :goodjob:..did you end up getting the wheels ??

Yep ive got the wheels they arrived from the US last week and being sent to my house I should have them this arvo or tomorrow. Ill post some pics they are the GAR1 20x9 and 20x10 in titanium colour

[offshore]

Well done, how does it drive?

Dont know yet still fine tuning a few things should be ready to pick up tomorrow or there abouts. It really barks though like a proper race car lol. I may have to sacrifice a bit of grunt by getting quieter rear mufflers ill see how it goes.

[Djbarnstar]

Great result. That is a conservative dyno too!

[offshore]

Great result. That is a conservative dyno too!

Yea over in the US ive seen the same specs except for 102mm throttle and ported snout make about 720hp on unleaded where as im making 670 with standard throttle and no porting so its pretty close. I cant get any more as the blower is definitely maxed out but bloody hell you dont need anymore.

[tom_holden]

Those wheels, man.. It's a beaut!! You really can't go wrong with black and white. You just can't.

Congratulations on your new car.

[crazymaso]

Nice results! Wish I could see the wheels though!

[offshore]

Some wheels arrived

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/wheels/20140923_121029.jpg

[mjrandom]

What offset did you get? I should have added I think it will look sh!t hot with those wheels.

[offshore]

What offset did you get? I should have added I think it will look sh!t hot with those wheels.

Offset designed to work with Harrop Ultimates and VF series

GA1R Deep 20x9 + 30mm
GA1R Deep 20x10 + 48mm

Yea I was unsure about the titanium colour with white vs a darker colour but I think it will look ok. Ill get the brakes in either Yellow or the silver greyish colour i think they call it nickel

[team illucid]

On this model are you rolling the guards for the 20x10? I know on my VE they rubbed the tyres out terribly.

[offshore]

Rolling the guards for the 20x10?

Its suppose to fit Harrop have had them on their car already the same and 285/30/20 Michelin Pilot Super Sport and the KW coilovers

[jaykay]

Look forward to seeing them fitted....

[offshore]

I drove it home today its almost to much for the street really lol. And I really need to sort the suspension out big time just need to have it a bit lower on the coil overs and just generally tighten the whole car up. Ive got to take this car to Holden as well and get the seat recall checkup and also get any updates for the HVAC just have to make sure they dont drive as it can spin the wheels in 3rd I can see the young ones having a go in it and writing it off.

[Drizt]

Almost too much for the street ? As in the power? SWEET.

How do you find the Harrop KW Coilovers? Did you get sway bars done as well? Which ones?

Can't wait to see pics of the wheels on your beast. Will look very sharp.

[offshore]

No haven't got any thing fitted yet so still stock suspension im going to be doing it in November some time because im going away after this weekend for 6 weeks or so.

[mjrandom]

The P48 should mean you can fit 295s without rubbing at stock height. The front P36 (GenF) with 255s fit as do the original rears at 275. Overlaying these gives 295 at P49. I reckon 305/30 would be worth a test fit at P50. That one is more of a guess though.

[Wonky]

On this model are you rolling the guards for the 20x10? I know on my VE they rubbed the tyres out terribly.

I've had 20x10 DTM Shine for over 5 1/2 years on the ute (+45 offset) and with Kumho 275 tyres have had 25k, 30k and almost 30k mileage out of them with almost dead even wear. Guards rolled to the max. :)

Originally on SSSL King/Monroes and now H&R coilovers with about 10 - 20mm of tuck.

[team illucid]

I've had 20x10 DTM Shine for over 5 1/2 years on the ute (+45 offset) and with Kumho 275 tyres have had 25k, 30k and almost 30k mileage out of them with almost dead even wear. Guards rolled to the max. :)

Originally on SSSL King/Monroes and now H&R coilovers with about 10 - 20mm of tuck.

Yep I made the mistake of thinking I could get away with them not being rolled - was ok on the Clubby because it is a lot firmer ride - the Senator basically ruined my tyres in 3 weeks.

Have learnt a lesson :)

[offshore]

Im not making any mistake im getting them fitted if they have to be rolled or tubed I dont care there going on. Im more concerned with the suspension after driving it the power overwhelms it im going to have to have a big think about this as it needs work.

[offshore]

Had the car out today for decent drive its hard to get an area where you can open it up. You can give it short burst part throttle in 2nd and even at 1/4 thottle it hauls. Had a spot just before where I could open it up rolling start in 3rd and decent road surface and up around 6000 its warp speed had a brief bit of that sort of tunnel vision you get when on 1000cc bike trying to comprehend the scenery coming towards you at frantic pace and my head pinned to the head rest. Going to be interesting to take it to the drags at some stage but its not the point of the car really as its going to going to be setup for handling. Anyway apart from all that its really easy to drive its like stock almost the only thing is the extra noise and the whistling sound like a jet almost coming from the inlet. Also you have to be be careful like I came on on to a major road started up the merging lane in 3rd like normal and it stepped out a bit on part throttle just every so slightly so I dont think any one noticed.

[team illucid]

Time for a locker diff?

[offshore]

Ive got the Harrop true track which works ok ill get a 9 inch geforce strange setup if i start breaking stuff.

[Willh]

very nice :)

[VFast]

Coming along very nicely mate. Awesome sleeper, just try to keep its street manners so you really enjoy driving it on a day to day basis.

lots of jealous people wanting your car.

[offshore]

Coming along very nicely mate. Awesome sleeper, just try to keep its street manners so you really enjoy driving it on a day to day basis.

lots of jealous people wanting your car.

Yea i drove it again today more use to it now its really easy to drive you just have to readjust your right foot and use part throttle and it just motors along like stock even better because of the massive amount of torque. Its idling at 750 rpm mainly because of the cold start on E85 it needs to be warmed up for a few minutes after its been sitting overnight apparently because of the 1500cc injectors on the stock ecu. Its no issue its just i wouldn't mind the idle being about 650 as that would make it even more of a sleeper at the lights.

[Djbarnstar]

Continue to like the build!

Are you getting any axle tramp? No idea about the VF but my VE had horrible tramp but was set up for the circuit. Is the VF rear different or the same? BTW I blew up 3 diffs including a true track and you have almost double the HP!!:cool:

You have to take me for a spin in this....!?

[offshore]

Continue to like the build!

Are you getting any axle tramp? No idea about the VF but my VE had horrible tramp but was set up for the circuit. Is the VF rear different or the same? BTW I blew up 3 diffs including a true track and you have almost double the HP!!:cool:

You have to take me for a spin in this....!?

No axle tramp as the VF has got the anti wheel hop setup with different size axles on either side.

Yea no worries ill catch up with people in the area some time. I have to go away again on Tuesday for 6 or 7 weeks and when i get back ill complete the suspension and have the forgeline wheels on so should be good then. Its going to be setup for fast road use like targa type events not drags so no idea what ill do in 1/4 but should be over 130mph i think.

[offshore]

One thing I like about this thing is when it fires up it really sounds like a race motor. And just giving it a quick stab in 2nd gear just lights them up haha its fun. Its forcing me to buy another car just for shopping duties etc. Not because this cant do it its just so inviting to use some of the power it just draws you in.

[offshore]

This is coming along a bit further now. Been a bit of a process and interrupted all the time when I go away. Car has only got about 9500km on it since it was first driven on 28th August 2013 and the LSA motor only has about 1500kms on it and was modified from 0km before it was even first fired up.

Anyway I bought tyres finally online didnt use the forum sponsor as they didnt have the ones I wanted. Got the Michelin Pilot super sport in 285/30/20 and 255/30/20 and I went with the Harrop KW coil overs was having a hard time deciding on this and was going to go with the DMS 50mm but in the end thought it was a bit much for the street plus no one could tell me if they would fit ok without rubbing the tyres. It would have worked with camber adjustment etc but anyway the KW ones will ride better and cheaper to. Also im getting whiteline swaybars. This is all going on next week as im still away at the moment and brakes are still to be decided nearly went with the Harrops but they havnt got any built at the moment and another option is the Alcon 6 piston monoblocks and cheaper than the Harrops. Going to work this out in the coming weeks no real hurry just keen to get these wheels on to see what there like.

[mjrandom]

30 profile or 35?

[offshore]

30 profile I was originally going to go with 255/35 but they didnt have any so I went with 255/30. The rears I was always going to go with the 285/30s.

I was tempted to go with 295 at the back but stuck with 285s and the 295s they only had in 35 profile so would have been a bit more risk of scubbing to I think.

I found this site to check them compared to my original 19s
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php?tires=275-35r19-285-30r20

[offshore]

Got the KW coilovers and Forgeline wheels on they look ok! I was worried about the titanium colour thinking I may need to go darker with the White car but pretty happy. Havnt driven it yet needs rear guards rolled doing that tomorrow and getting the swaybars which didn't arrive. Seriously needs the big brakes now to finish it off lol.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/wheels/IMG_1929.jpg

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/wheels/IMG_1931.jpg

[dgp]

Wheels look awesome. For some reason I thought you had a Ute!

[offshore]

haha I actually wouldnt mind a ute maybe an older one so I can stick a big block chev into it!

[Micks]

Only my take front looks odd/too low but the back looks :drool: :yup:

[offshore]

Yea its only just put on so we can adjust it we'll see how it looks tomorrow pretty happy with the colour was the cheap colour as well. Well when I say cheap I mean no extra charges the more fancy stuff like transparent smoke is about an extra $250 a wheel from memory. I got the titanium as i thought it was more purposeful race like.

[BigAnt]

Those wheels look awesome. Offset looks spot on :thumbsup:

[offshore]

There pretty light I didnt weigh them but have to be close to the lightest 20 inch wheel cant afford to bang these up though being one piece 3 piece ones might be a more sensible choice cheaper to fix.

[Micks]

Yea its only just put on so we can adjust it we'll see how it looks tomorrow pretty happy with the colour was the cheap colour as well. Well when I say cheap I mean no extra charges the more fancy stuff like transparent smoke is about an extra $250 a wheel from memory. I got the titanium as i thought it was more purposeful race like.
Don't get me wrong looks Gr8 but has me thinking maybe Holden got the front fenders wrong with the VF they appear awkward to previous models!

[Drizt]

Looks awesome. Can't wait to read your thoughts on the KW's once you have familiarised yourself with them.

[offshore]

Don't get me wrong looks Gr8 but has me thinking maybe Holden got the front fenders wrong with the VF they appear awkward to previous models!

Yea im sort of use to the VF and I reckon its ok. It looks better from some other angles. Anyway at least with these cars we can play around with them easier then we could with say a Euro car.

[offshore]

Looks awesome. Can't wait to read your thoughts on the KW's once you have familiarised yourself with them.


I will I think they should be ok. I thought you would have got yours already.

[Drizt]

I will I think they should be ok. I thought you would have got yours already.

Money got diverted to an investment property at the time and then I started spending silly amounts of cash on road bikes (pushies) for my wife and I. Have been doing more km's on the bikes than driving of late.

[offshore]

Don't get me wrong looks Gr8 but has me thinking maybe Holden got the front fenders wrong with the VF they appear awkward to previous models!

I think I just worked it out. Im running 30 series tyres on the front instead of 35 series I was originally going to get. I think 35 series would sit it up a bit more about 0.5 inch or so maybe thats it.

[mjrandom]

Looks superb. The wheels are great.

[IJ.]

I think I just worked it out. Im running 30 series tyres on the front instead of 35 series I was originally going to get. I think 35 series would sit it up a bit more about 0.5 inch or so maybe thats it.
It's going to settle a bit over the next few weeks so I wouldn't stress about it till then ;)

[offshore]

Looks superb. The wheels are great.

Yea they will look good on your car if you get some. Have you decided on wheels or going to stick with the stock ones?

[offshore]

It's going to settle a bit over the next few weeks so I wouldn't stress about it till then ;)

Yea there easy to adjust up and down so no worries i wanted to keep it practical though not super low

[offshore]

It's going to settle a bit over the next few weeks so I wouldn't stress about it till then ;)

It certainly settles a bit when my fat arse sits in it lol I need some corner balancing

[IJ.]

Yea there easy to adjust up and down so no worries i wanted to keep it practical though not super low
Yep I'd be bringing it up an inch or so once the springs have taken a set, Low is nice but on our roads so impractical..... not keen on 30 series rubber for the same reason, turned a nice light set of rims into 50c pieces within a year doing Syd>Melb runs... :(

[offshore]

Yep I'd be bringing it up an inch or so once the springs have taken a set, Low is nice but on our roads so impractical..... not keen on 30 series rubber for the same reason, turned a nice light set of rims into 50c pieces within a year doing Syd>Melb runs... :(

Yea ill see how it goes just interested to see how these tyres go suppose to be good might be able to give it a bit more in 2nd now. Ive hardly been able to use the power so far its to quick to use when other cars are around.

[offshore]

i mean its not as quick as cars alot of other guys have had on these forums but its pretty good ive had fast 4wd turbos and this thing is bloody fast biggest things is it distorts your vision when you get traction and hold it flat till 7000rpm give all the skyline and subys a run with good old fashioned chev grunt. Can never be as fast as the big power GTRs just no traction but its awesome fun.

[mjrandom]

Yea they will look good on your car if you get some. Have you decided on wheels or going to stick with the stock ones?

Still on the fence at the moment. I like these! My GTS is still stock but that will change early next year, nothing too drastic. Waiting to see if anyone is going to bring out a mod for flappy paddles (I have fitted up aluminium paddles to my Chev SS wheel now waiting...). Heading away camping soon so all on hold until next year.

[offshore]

Looks awesome. Can't wait to read your thoughts on the KW's once you have familiarised yourself with them.

Got it back the KW coilovers are great it actually rides better than stock not harsh at all and thats with 30 series tyres the whole car feels a lot better now more composed under acceleration as well. The tyres have got a lot more grip as well so much better now. Coilovers have 1 adjustment good enough for the street 0 to 18 settings mine are on 11 at the front 7 at the back at the moment and seems ok. Haven't changed the swaybars yet still waiting on some parts. There is a catch though which we had no idea of at the time and the instructions from Harrop are wrong to they show bottom adjustment but the rear ones are adjustable from the top just like the front. So we had to drill a small hole in the boot each side above the shock and fit a grommet so they can be adjusted while on the car. No big deal and apparently most people dont bother once its setup they leave it so they dont do the boot mod.

[offshore]

Bit of a Drama with this today. Blew the oil filler cap off and spat oil all over the place at first I thought it was something else could just smell burning oil and a smoke mist out the back looked pretty bad in traffic lol. Anyway was near a repco place so managed to get a replacement cap but they only had one with a breather so this will do until I sort it out.

Its already got a catch can installed and i think these after market rocker covers are the problem. As its only a push on cap not a twist plus it might be my fault to as I havnt checked it so it might have worked its way out over a few days or more. Only small oil loss as the dipstick says its still full.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20141125_212852.jpg

[offshore]

Just updating this

I might be selling this car. As I need to get a Boat and 4WD to tow it which is the only reason for selling this.

Anyway so thought id just mention it here first as im not really to worried about selling as i still wouldnt mind keeping it a and just take a bit longer to get the Boat. But just putting it out there.

To save people looking back at the thread these are the specs

VF Redline 2013 manual White in colour with tinted windows and about 14,000km on it and in Canberra.

Engine Mods
LSA 6.2 engine installed new at around the 7800km mark
GT9 Cam 215/247 duration @ .050 lift .629/.656 with 1.7 rocker 121 CL
Mast LS3 256cc 11 Degree 4.000"+ Bore heads
Pac 1208x double springs .750 lift max
Morel 5206 lifters Crow 3/8 8.25 inch pushrods
Yella Terror Mast roller rockers
Stainless valves with hollow intake
9.17 inch lower pulley
2.55 inch 10 bolt top pulley and solid isolator coupling
8rib belt drive
38% overdrive 23400 rpm blower speed at 6500rpm
Cold air intake and K&N filter
Harrop front intercooler heat exchanger and pump
Harrop oil cooler plus performance racing thermostat
sump baffle and crank scraper
Squash performance twin intank DW E85 pumps from VCM
KPM 1500cc EV14 injectors
DiFilippo 1 7/8 ceramic headers 3 inch exhust

Harrop short shift
Harrop true track 3.7 diff

KW coilovers and whiteline swaybars and bushes
Forgeline GA1R wheels 20x9 and 20x10
Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres 255 and 285


Its currently tuned back on 98 at around 500 rwkw and also can be put straight back on E85 tune with 554 rwkw

Will do a 10s 1/4 with some one who knows what their doing. Its never been to a drag strip yet and as can be seen by the kms hasnt really driven that much as ive been away alot of the time.

Good car to buy for some one that wants to save a lot of money on mods because alot of it has been done. The only thing I was going to do next is Harrop Ultimate brakes and swap the cam out for SQP SQ60 blower cam. The GT9 is making good power but we reckon its got more in it with the Mast heads the GT9 inlet duration is a bit small to get the most out of it.

Car sounds awesome and gets comments regularly at the traffic lights due to the blower and turbine like inlet sounds plus when opening it up all hell brakes loose and really barks. It confuses people lol they ask if its cammed or ask if its got a blower no one has a clue its got the LSA but it definitely sounds different from the usual run of the mill mods.

[offshore]

Sleeper lol

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/vf%20redline%20lsa.jpg

[offshore]

Another update on this car.

Finally upgraded the brakes to Harrop Ultimate and braided lines.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20150902_132502.jpg

Will have some more pics later with the wheels.

Weight on the front is 6kg for the caliper including the alloy bracket. About 9kg for the rotor and hat. 19.5kg for the Forgeline 20x9 including Michelin PSS tyres.

[VFast]

Nice upgrade! Any idea on the weights of stock items for a comparison?

[offshore]

Nice upgrade! Any idea on the weights of stock items for a comparison?

Not yet but ive got them all here in boxes so ill weigh them tomorrow. The front Brembos actually felt pretty light they are fatter over all by quiet some margin as the Harrop calipers have a lot of clearance with the rim spokes where as the Brembos I had to run 3mm spacers so they would clear as I got the Forgelines made specifically with the Harrop brakes in mind.

[jaykay]

Nice look forward to seeing more pics :thumbsup:

[offshore]

Nice upgrade! Any idea on the weights of stock items for a comparison?

Stock front Redline wheels 19x8 with tyres 22.4kg Stock brembo calipers 5.4kg and front disks 11.6 with the alloy shield which was 0.3

[offshore]

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/20150903_092946.jpg

[jaykay]

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/20150903_092946.jpg

:drool: :drool: :drool: and a weight reduction too :goodjob:

You keeping the calipers yellow ?

[offshore]

Yea i couldnt work out a colour to get so just got Yellow they look ok not the best camera shot that and its raining. Not much else to do with this car now except still want to sort the suspension out more and get it corner weighted. Might get Recaro seats.

[jaykay]

They would be a pain to keep clean but I reckon white calipers would look schmick.....

[offshore]

Another closer pic 381mm or 15 inch disks still plenty of room in there. Im pretty sure 18 inch version of these wheels will fit as well making it really good for tyre choice for track days.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20150903_112953.jpg

[jaykay]

Nice open wheel to clean and to get to the caliper to clean too :yup:

[Micks]

Another closer pic 381mm or 15 inch disks still plenty of room in there. Im pretty sure 18 inch version of these wheels will fit as well making it really good for tyre choice for track days.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/shauno_01/VF%20SSV%20Redline/20150903_112953.jpg

Yep the Harrops are a very nice piece of kit :yup:

[amckiwi]

You will love the brakesThey are by far the biggest performance increase on my car
Stu

[offshore]

Yea they feel awesome on the drive then. Pretty sure I can feel the unsprung weight difference too with the steering feel will help with the braking as well since the rotational forces will be slightly less.

[surfwagon]

The wheels and brakes look awesome and the weight loss is a big bonus.
Did similar with my Z Senator, light weight Forged BBS 18" about 5kg lighter than stock HSV 18" wheel/tyre and DBA 5000 2 piece discs which are about 2.5kg lighter than stock 350mm Ap discs.
Great work with the rest of the car, very stealthyuntil you see those enormous brakes, got to love that engine package.

[offshore]

The wheels and brakes look awesome and the weight loss is a big bonus.
Did similar with my Z Senator, light weight Forged BBS 18" about 5kg lighter than stock HSV 18" wheel/tyre and DBA 5000 2 piece discs which are about 2.5kg lighter than stock 350mm Ap discs.
Great work with the rest of the car, very stealthyuntil you see those enormous brakes, got to love that engine package.

Yea I saw your thread on the other forum car looks good.

[offshore]

Took it for a drive then and tested the brakes out massive difference as would be expected and pulls up dead straight only thing is can notice the abs ultimately limits the performance in the dry as it can brake harder I'm sure if I tested it on a track with abs off. But maybe not. It's a massive safety factor too as it's much more confidence inspiring now knowing it can stop properly since it can get to a corner way faster then normal. I've only got the standard pads that come with them plus using Castrol SRF fluid.

[team illucid]

Not sure how you lasted so long without decent stoppers in this area of shitty drivers and Roos lol

[offshore]

Not sure how you lasted so long without decent stoppers in this area of shitty drivers and Roos lol

I know car hardly gets driven only 14900km since I bought it in Aug 2013 so 7500 km a year. As I'm away so much for work so things just got done every now and again brakes happened to be last lol.

[offshore]

This is car is entered in the Temora 1000 this year as number 49. Only problem is im away again now and probably will miss it 2nd year in a row ive been entered but had to miss it due to work.