Router Wifi & Network

[Micks]

Guys need a new router have an old twin ant. jobby but not doing the job. Optus cable net comes into Garage with both Modem & Router mounted there.
Problem is home is over 25M long & find the present router on the extreme distance can be problematic.
Can anyone recommend one?
Looking at this one http://www.amazon.com/Sapido-Wireless-N-Support-Speakers-High-Power/dp/B00C78I9J2
Though would like more pros & cons.
Thanks

[C4B]

This should solve your problem......

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They come in both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz Versions..... Made by Ubiquiti. Carrier grade WIFI. 600mw with dual MIMO 10db antenna set. Unless you live in something the size of Parliament House this little puppy will do it on its ear! It can be mounted outside as well and is powered by POE..

[C4B]

Or for something a little less over the top:

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These will cream a residential grade WAP (don't let the size fool you)

Still uses a 600mw transmitter and will do a large house.

[Smitty]

Or for something a little less over the top:

3117

These will cream a residential grade WAP (don't let the size fool you)

Still uses a 600mw transmitter and will do a large house.

... and that is??

[C4B]

Ubiquiti PicoStation M2 HP.

[C4B]

Not the easiest thing in the world to setup, but they make the residential stuff seem like Lego...

[Stewge]

Or for something a little less over the top:



These will cream a residential grade WAP (don't let the size fool you)

Still uses a 600mw transmitter and will do a large house.

Ubiquiti gear is awesome and surprisingly cheap. I've done a few installations varying from the easy-mode air-routers to long-range indoor APs and point-to-point links over several km.

[Sidewindr]

Guys need a new router have an old twin ant. jobby but not doing the job. Optus cable net comes into Garage with both Modem & Router mounted there.
Problem is home is over 25M long & find the present router on the extreme distance can be problematic.
Can anyone recommend one?
Looking at this one http://www.amazon.com/Sapido-Wireless-N-Support-Speakers-High-Power/dp/B00C78I9J2
Though would like more pros & cons.
Thanks

Personally I use Linksys (http://www.linksys.com/en-apac/home)or Billion (http://au.billion.com/index.php)stuff ;) Still have a bunch of old 2.4GHz wireless-G routers around the place working as guest network and range extenders.. but that's only 54Mbps throughput..

I would suggest one of the following options..

Option 1. Get a new model Linksys Router (http://www.linksys.com/en-apac/products/routers) if you want to replace your current cable router or a simple Access Point (http://www.linksys.com/en-apac/products/accesspoints) if you want to keep your existing router (Access Points are simpler and cheaper as they don't have any of the router/gateway features. See how that goes with the 802.11a and 802.11n wireless range remembering you need an 802.11a or 802.11n capable adaptor in your PC/Laptop/Device. If the range is good then job done, if still not good enough then grab a Range extender (http://www.linksys.com/en-apac/products/rangeexpanders) to put in the house close to the Garage to basically relay/boost the signal a longer distance.

Option 2. Take a look at Billion Powerline Adaptors (http://au.billion.com/products/powerline.html), they are basically devices that plug into your power outlet and use the power lines for data. I don't think Linksys make Powerline for Australia so I would favour Billion over the others and don't even consider D-Link products. You could then have one in the garage and a second in a more central location to the house and then plug your Wireless Router/Access Point into the central Powerline Adaptor's ethernet port.




This should solve your problem......

3116

They come in both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz Versions..... Made by Ubiquiti. Carrier grade WIFI. 600mw with dual MIMO 10db antenna set. Unless you live in something the size of Parliament House this little puppy will do it on its ear! It can be mounted outside as well and is powered by POE..

Problem with these higher gain and power antennas is that the signal can go too far and it's best to try and keep the Wireless range as close to your own property as possible (less potential for hacks/war riders etc.) also to get the best results you need a better Wireless client (gain/power) otherwise you run the risk of being able to receive and have poor transmission to the Access Point. :D

[Micks]

Ubiquiti PicoStation M2 HP.
Thanks you've certainly given me plenty to read up on now!

[Davothegreat]

Billion Powerline Adaptors, they are basically devices that plug into your power outlet and use the power lines for data.

Keep in mind with Ethernet over Power, both ends need to be connected to the same physical power circuit. OP mentioned his equipment is in his garage, he'd need to be sure his garage isn't on a separate circuit to his house power. Oh and avoid power boards.

Alternately, run some Ethernet between the house and garage.

[Micks]

Keep in mind with Ethernet over Power, both ends need to be connected to the same physical power circuit. OP mentioned his equipment is in his garage, he'd need to be sure his garage isn't on a separate circuit to his house power. Oh and avoid power boards.

Alternately, run some Ethernet between the house and garage.

Yes, modem & Router power on dedicated circuit so I can easily isolate when not in use, like to keep entire setup where it is @ present as it sits in approx. 4m from the front of the home.
Also looked @ the pdf brochures appears to be little on the setup? Plenty on the soft setup though?

[C4B]

Ubiquiti gear is awesome and surprisingly cheap. I've done a few installations varying from the easy-mode air-routers to long-range indoor APs and point-to-point links over several km.

We'd never heard of Ubiquiti before and one of the crowds we get all our Cellular gear from put us onto it. Up until then we'd just been using the underperforming gear mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

Our house is fairly large (and 2 storey split level) and we've never been able to cover the whole place with a single access point. Now we've got a Pico that provides 5/5 throughout the whole house, and because it's so small and POE you can place it in an optimum location. From a hardware perspective it's the best find we've made in years....

[Blown 454 AWD]

Any of these powerful enough to go between concrete floor in a flat to garage situation?

Cheers

Steve

[Sidewindr]

Keep in mind with Ethernet over Power, both ends need to be connected to the same physical power circuit. OP mentioned his equipment is in his garage, he'd need to be sure his garage isn't on a separate circuit to his house power. Oh and avoid power boards.

Alternately, run some Ethernet between the house and garage.

Actually they don't need to be on the same circuit, not since 2010 with the ratification of IEEE1901 and HomePlug AV standards, the devices can communicate through breakers and even across phases.. up to 500M and depending on the device 100-200Mbps.


We'd never heard of Ubiquiti before and one of the crowds we get all our Cellular gear from put us onto it. Up until then we'd just been using the underperforming gear mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

Our house is fairly large (and 2 storey split level) and we've never been able to cover the whole place with a single access point. Now we've got a Pico that provides 5/5 throughout the whole house, and because it's so small and POE you can place it in an optimum location. From a hardware perspective it's the best find we've made in years....

I wouldn't call the Linksys and Billion stuff under-performing, I have a Linksys Wireless-N router on the 2nd floor of a 3 floor solid concrete walled and floored town-house giving 5/5 throughout the entire house and yard :D There are regulations controlling the maximum power you can transmit on the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands without having a license (ie. general public) be careful of these laws, they may require that installation is done by a licensed individual if over a certain power level regardless of whether or not you can purchase them over the counter ;)

[Smitty]

Ubiquiti PicoStation M2 HP.

sweet .. thanks

[C4B]

There are regulations controlling the maximum power you can transmit on the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands without having a license (ie. general public) be careful of these laws, they may require that installation is done by a licensed individual if over a certain power level regardless of whether or not you can purchase them over the counter ;)

That's why we install them :cool:

To be fair, it won't let you exceed the Australian limits unless you start fudging the cable loss and antenna gain figures, and the smaller ones with the standard antenna won't exceed the limits even if you do fudge it....

The bigger ones will by miles if you're running the sector or dish antennas which range in size up to 30db gain, but they're not something you would just sell to a client without configuring it anyway....

At the end of the day aside from the Pico's no-one is going to install these in a residential setting, we use them for clients who run things like caravan parks or have large open air requirements (even the Pico's are suitable for outdoor installation provided you use grounded weatherproof ethernet cable).

[Micks]

With my current setup have three workstations hardwired running directly from router & another four wireless craptops.
Can use the M2 HP the same way without a switch?

[C4B]

With my current setup have three workstations hardwired running directly from router & another four wireless craptops.
Can use the M2 HP the same way without a switch?

You just plug the M2's POE injector in to a spare port on the router. Note: It doesn't come with any Ethernet Cables and you need 2.... One going from the POE injector back to the router and 1 to go to the actual Access Point.

They're not the easiest thing in the world to configure the first time, but if you follow the instructions it's not too difficult. If you'd rather get one that's all pre-configured ready to plug in shoot me a PM.

[KeenGolfer]

Ubiquiti PicoStation M2 HP.

Great. Just ordered one.

[Sidewindr]

That's why we install them :cool:

To be fair, it won't let you exceed the Australian limits unless you start fudging the cable loss and antenna gain figures, and the smaller ones with the standard antenna won't exceed the limits even if you do fudge it....

The bigger ones will by miles if you're running the sector or dish antennas which range in size up to 30db gain, but they're not something you would just sell to a client without configuring it anyway....


Here's one of my old 15-30dB parabolics.. :)
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[bozodos]

Yeah the Ubiquiti stuff is good - we've used the Nanostations up to around 10km LOS for a 'local' area network.

Their enterprise stuff looks quite promising too, especially compared to what Cisco charge.

[C4B]

Yeah the Ubiquiti stuff is good - we've used the Nanostations up to around 10km LOS for a 'local' area network.

Their enterprise stuff looks quite promising too, especially compared to what Cisco charge.

Yes, they're gonna shake up the big players provided their gear remains reliable over a long period....

The thing we love about it is it's all IP54 (or better) rated so the same Access Points can be used for practically any application regardless of indoor or outdoor. We're looking at the Nano's for a client at the moment. the reach is only a few k's but there is trees at one end.

[XUV]

do they make a combined router wifi unit like fritzbox ?

If not what do you guys recommend ? Only needs to cover a 50 sq solid brick house and 100m dia to cover shed.

[C4B]

do they make a combined router wifi unit like fritzbox ?

If not what do you guys recommend ? Only needs to cover a 50 sq solid brick house and 100m dia to cover shed.

Nope, they only seem to do the wireless stuff. It'll plug in to any existing router, so even if you didn't have an ADSL modem you could pick up a non-wifi one and still use one of their devices.

[Micks]

You just plug the M2's POE injector in to a spare port on the router. Note: It doesn't come with any Ethernet Cables and you need 2.... One going from the POE injector back to the router and 1 to go to the actual Access Point.

They're not the easiest thing in the world to configure the first time, but if you follow the instructions it's not too difficult. If you'd rather get one that's all pre-configured ready to plug in shoot me a PM.

PM sent...........

[duke5700]

Where from and $$$?


Great. Just ordered one.

Thats the one thing I've found with my Fritzbox is I don't think the Wireless performance is as good as my old D-Link.

I've only got a modest 3 bedroom place and it struggle somewhat with the walls it seem. There is 3 walls between (gyprock and timber 15m total if it is lucky) with one being a laundry and my network speeds etc are rubbish. Use my tablet in the same room and it is perfect.

I've checked for noise and clashing WiFi networks but I'm miles away on the spectrum for 2.4 and no one is even on the 5.0. My roof is a bit of a pain to get around with all the heating and cooling being separate so maybe this AP will do the job and cover the shed as well.

[KeenGolfer]

Where from and $$$?

$121 including express post delivery. It's already shipped. http://www.citytechnology.com.au/store/

Was going to buy from the ubnt au store but they were $185 inc delivery, they wanted $40 odd for delivery!

[C4B]

Where from and $$$?



Thats the one thing I've found with my Fritzbox is I don't think the Wireless performance is as good as my old D-Link.

I've only got a modest 3 bedroom place and it struggle somewhat with the walls it seem. There is 3 walls between (gyprock and timber 15m total if it is lucky) with one being a laundry and my network speeds etc are rubbish. Use my tablet in the same room and it is perfect.

I've checked for noise and clashing WiFi networks but I'm miles away on the spectrum for 2.4 and no one is even on the 5.0. My roof is a bit of a pain to get around with all the heating and cooling being separate so maybe this AP will do the job and cover the shed as well.

I've had 2 Fritzbox 7390's and the WIFI performance was never flash. Before we got on to the Ubiquiti's we tried range extenders etc. and they're all very flaky. Because the Pico is Power Over Ethernet, by buying a 30m Ethernet Cable you can mount the unit wherever you like.

Obviously if you were only trying to cover the house, you'd try to mount it somewhere centrally, but if you're trying to cover an area of yard as well you'd probably want to place it somewhere near the back wall of the house closest to the shed.

[C4B]

Here's one of my old 15-30dB parabolics.. :)
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It seems everyone has these sitting around the place :nyuk:

[macca_779]

I've got 3 apple airports for wifi and a billion modem router for dhcp, qos, and mac filtering. All run into a HP pro curve gigabit switch. The wireless on the billion is unreliable. Hence the apple gear which has never missed a beat. Wifi is setup as a roaming network. Ie identical ssid and wpa2 passwords. I've just manually changed the channels to segregate them.

My house has cat6 to every room so all fixed devices go to the switch. Of the apple access points 2 go to the switch directly. One is behind my main tv. One (a time capsule) is in the linen closet with all the other network hardware. The last one is in the garage which is separate from the house but connects via ethernet over power. The speed of the EOP isn't great. But 60mbps is nominal so ok for most but high def 1080p tv from an elgato netstream tv tuner does jump around sometimes.

[Davothegreat]

60mbps is nominal so ok for most but high def 1080p tv from an elgato netstream tv tuner does jump around sometimes.

The HD channels ABC 24 and One consume around 15Mbps from my HDHomerun tuner. SD channels around 4 - 5 Mbps.

I haven't used an Elgato tuner but the HDHomerun works just fine with Macs (I assume this is why you have an Elgato as no Windows user would bother with one).

[macca_779]

The HD channels ABC 24 and One consume around 15Mbps from my HDHomerun tuner. SD channels around 4 - 5 Mbps.

I haven't used an Elgato tuner but the HDHomerun works just fine with Macs (I assume this is why you have an Elgato as no Windows user would bother with one).

I didn't know about the HDHomerun when I got the Netstream. Certainly good value. I already had the Elgato EyeTv software too as I have a Elgato Diversity Tuner too so I probably would have gone that way had I know about it. One plus with the netstream that it doesn't appear the HDHomerun does is have a native iOS app. I see you can run it through a Mac first using the elgato eye tv app, but I prefer having it stream direct which the net stream app does. Half the time I use an iPad for TV at home if I'm working in the shed. Hooked up to a Projector and its a pretty sweet setup.

Yeah mine pulls 1.31MB/s as you can see. My EOP playing up with it I don't think is a speed issue, but a packet loss issue. EOP is junk no matter which way you look at it compared to ethernet or even modern WiFi.. But its convenient and I didn't want to range extend the WiFi.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i39/macca_779/ScreenShot2014-03-17at81735pm_zps88f81147.jpg

[Sidewindr]

Booo macca_779 to using Apple anything :evil: What model billion is giving you problems? I have only ever had issues with Billion in early firmware releases and the odd dodgy ADSL firmware. That's why for DSL I use an simple ADSL GW with no wireless in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode to a firewall with some grunt and memory and terminate my PPPoE on the firewall and the appliance just acts as a media converter basically.

Most of these Wireless Routers/Gateways etc can't handle too much network load on them or a big number of concurrent connections across them before their state tables fill the tiny amount of RAM they have and start dropping connections...

Any wireless device I have is simply used as an Access point and fed into a firewall interface to isolate the wireless from the hardwired network, the Billion Wireless-N ADSL2+ gateway that I got with my Internet service has it's Wireless disabled and all it is doing is running in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode (a bit of a waste I know but my old ADSL GW died) ...

This is the best approach especially if you have internet connections of 15Mbps or greater .. you can get upwards of 20-30% increase in throughput by separating things this way :)

[macca_779]

Booo macca_779 to using Apple anything :evil: What model billion is giving you problems? I have only ever had issues with Billion in early firmware releases and the odd dodgy ADSL firmware. That's why for DSL I use an simple ADSL GW with no wireless in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode to a firewall with some grunt and memory and terminate my PPPoE on the firewall and the appliance just acts as a media converter basically.

Most of these Wireless Routers/Gateways etc can't handle too much network load on them or a big number of concurrent connections across them before their state tables fill the tiny amount of RAM they have and start dropping connections...

Any wireless device I have is simply used as an Access point and fed into a firewall interface to isolate the wireless from the hardwired network, the Billion Wireless-N ADSL2+ gateway that I got with my Internet service has it's Wireless disabled and all it is doing is running in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode (a bit of a waste I know but my old ADSL GW died) ...

This is the best approach especially if you have internet connections of 15Mbps or greater .. you can get upwards of 20-30% increase in throughput by separating things this way :)

Its a 7404VGPX Sidey latest firmware. The routing is fine on the billion. The Wifi, VOIP and modem dropouts were regular when I had it doing all the work. Using a SPA-3000 for Voip (I had it anyway) and the apple stuff for WiFi has improved the dropouts considerably. Plus the Apple stuff is N and AC class so bucket loads faster than the old G on the billion.

The other benefit is if I loose the ADSL I now don't have to worry about taking the network offline if the family is watching a movie or TV. I just power cycle the Billion and away it goes.

The billion locks up the ADSL probably once every month now. Sometimes one power cycle won't do it. It will sync, but won't authorise the connection and then drop the sync and finally it goes into a constant loop. Another one or two power cycles usually sorts it out. I am just riding it out until its completely stuffed or I get the NBN... Probably the former thanks to the current government

[Sidewindr]

Give the IEEE-1483 Bridged mode a shot, fairly quick to set up if you have another device to act as the PPPoE endpoint :D I used to get ADSL lockups in the past when I terminated the PPPoE on the device connected to the PSTN, once I went to a dedicated IEEE-1483 Bridge device into a dedicated router/firewall and a dedicated Wireless AP setup I have had device uptimes of easily 6-10 months. No more having to get pissed off when the network goes down and then have to climb up to the top floor to power cycle the gateway in order to get it working again .. :D There obviously is downtime due to interruptions on the phone or DSL networks but once set up and running I have not had to power cycle a single device, they simply recover normally when the interruption is over.

[C4B]

Booo macca_779 to using Apple anything :evil: What model billion is giving you problems? I have only ever had issues with Billion in early firmware releases and the odd dodgy ADSL firmware. That's why for DSL I use an simple ADSL GW with no wireless in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode to a firewall with some grunt and memory and terminate my PPPoE on the firewall and the appliance just acts as a media converter basically.

Most of these Wireless Routers/Gateways etc can't handle too much network load on them or a big number of concurrent connections across them before their state tables fill the tiny amount of RAM they have and start dropping connections...

Any wireless device I have is simply used as an Access point and fed into a firewall interface to isolate the wireless from the hardwired network, the Billion Wireless-N ADSL2+ gateway that I got with my Internet service has it's Wireless disabled and all it is doing is running in IEEE-1483 Bridge mode (a bit of a waste I know but my old ADSL GW died) ...

This is the best approach especially if you have internet connections of 15Mbps or greater .. you can get upwards of 20-30% increase in throughput by separating things this way :)

Very similar setup here. Run a bog stock ADSL Gateway in Bridge mode and I've got a Netgear UTM9S Router which does the authentication etc. From that I've got a PicoStation M2 HP which does the WIFI duties. All very modular, so if any one component fails, it's not a big deal getting back up and running (we have spares of all three components).

[macca_779]

I did try configuring the billion to work as the modem only by setting it to bridge and use the time capsule for DHCP NAT. I kinda stuffed up somewhere there and couldn't connect to it then as no ip in bridge mode. The thing wouldn't even hard reset and I had to get into it via wifi (I was lucky a momentary press of the reset switch enabled it). So yeah that kind of scared me off screwing with it.

I should just get a basic adsl modem. But I'm just putting up with it for the time being.

[C4B]

Give the IEEE-1483 Bridged mode a shot, fairly quick to set up if you have another device to act as the PPPoE endpoint :D I used to get ADSL lockups in the past when I terminated the PPPoE on the device connected to the PSTN, once I went to a dedicated IEEE-1483 Bridge device into a dedicated router/firewall and a dedicated Wireless AP setup I have had device uptimes of easily 6-10 months. No more having to get pissed off when the network goes down and then have to climb up to the top floor to power cycle the gateway in order to get it working again .. :D There obviously is downtime due to interruptions on the phone or DSL networks but once set up and running I have not had to power cycle a single device, they simply recover normally when the interruption is over.

Totally agree..... With the setup I mentioned in my previous post, it is not uncommon to see a DSL connection time of 30+ days. We have the whole lot running off UPS so power outages don't cause resets. We've found the cheap Telstra modems (Technicolour brand) work really well for the purpose.

[macca_779]

Totally agree..... With the setup I mentioned in my previous post, it is not uncommon to see a DSL connection time of 30+ days. We have the whole lot running off UPS so power outages don't cause resets. We've found the cheap Telstra modems (Technicolour brand) work really well for the purpose.

Scared to try it again honestly. Using the time capsule for PPPoE was my intent. But yeah no dice

[C4B]

I did try configuring the billion to work as the modem only by setting it to bridge and use the time capsule for DHCP NAT. I kinda stuffed up somewhere there and couldn't connect to it then as no ip in bridge mode. The thing wouldn't even hard reset and I had to get into it via wifi (I was lucky a momentary press of the reset switch enabled it). So yeah that kind of scared me off screwing with it.

I should just get a basic adsl modem. But I'm just putting up with it for the time being.

Does the time capsule give you the ability to add in your ISP login details? Because if you're running in bridge mode the modem itself will have no ISP settings in it whatsoever.

[macca_779]

Does the time capsule give you the ability to add in your ISP login details? Because if you're running in bridge mode the modem itself will have no ISP settings in it whatsoever.

Yeah it does

[macca_779]

The fact the Billion won't hard reset is what stopped me trying. You can get into it via a proprietary serial rj45 cable apparently but I haven't got one

[macca_779]

Telstra does recommend PPPoA which the time capsule doesn't do. The research I did at the time suggested it should of still worked via PPPoE. But in my case it didn't.

[C4B]

Telstra does recommend PPPoA which the time capsule doesn't do. The research I did at the time suggested it should of still worked via PPPoE. But in my case it didn't.

I don't deal with any residential stuff so excuse my ignorance, but does the time capsule have a specific WAN port?

[macca_779]

I don't deal with any residential stuff so excuse my ignorance, but does the time capsule have a specific WAN port?

Yeah it does mate. Currently cause I couldn't get it to authenticate the ADSL I've just turned it into a bridge and left the billion to do the DHCP NAT, ADSL authentication.

[C4B]

Yeah it does mate. Currently cause I couldn't get it to authenticate the ADSL I've just turned it into a bridge and left the billion to do the DHCP NAT, ADSL authentication.

You might want to talk to an Apple guru, because on the surface it sounds like you're doing everything right.

All these things have their own little foibles, hence why Cisco people only ever use Cisco etc....

[Sidewindr]

Scared to try it again honestly. Using the time capsule for PPPoE was my intent. But yeah no dice

Beware of the Time Capsule .. NOT ALL ETHERNET PORTS on the back can be used for PPPoE ... It's retarded seriously.. :D

[macca_779]

You might want to talk to an Apple guru, because on the surface it sounds like you're doing everything right.

All these things have their own little foibles, hence why Cisco people only ever use Cisco etc....

Yeah I know right. Tried that going apple everything. But they don't do a modem which shouldn't matter. But it is what it is

[Sidewindr]

The fact the Billion won't hard reset is what stopped me trying. You can get into it via a proprietary serial rj45 cable apparently but I haven't got one

You can still get to the original Ethernet address of the Billion when it is in 1483 Bridge mode .. You just have to connect directly to the Billion's switch and manually assign an IP address to your PC/Laptop as DHCPD service will be disabled on the Billion when using 1483 Bridge mode. I don't have this issue as my firewall handles all the DHCP/DNS/SQUID etc etc.. Again it is best to have Internet/Network Services on a Separate device to your ADSL and WiFi devices.. :)

[macca_779]

Beware of the Time Capsule .. NOT ALL ETHERNET PORTS on the back can be used for PPPoE ... It's retarded seriously.. :D

Yeah I only used the WAN port. It is clearly marked. Even though I have a switch. I am actually passing the adsl through it then the LAN 1 port goes to the switch. I like the way it present in the airport utility this way

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i39/macca_779/7E5BFA2F-41B1-4FF7-A90D-A2067D528E21_zpscjbxytds.png

[Sidewindr]

Yeah I only used the WAN port. It is clearly marked. Even though I have a switch. I am actually passing the adsl through it then the LAN 1 port goes to the switch. I like the way it present in the airport utility this way

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i39/macca_779/7E5BFA2F-41B1-4FF7-A90D-A2067D528E21_zpscjbxytds.png

Hrm I recall something about the Time Capsule Switch ports not all working the same or something being disabled on 2 of them .. I can't remember now it's been a while since I set up my mate's Time Capsule to terminate the PPPoE thru a 1483 Bridged device..

[duke5700]

Nothing to add to where this thread has ended up... but have decided I'll get the Picostation and run Ethernet around the house. Desktop and TV's can go hardwired (only have ADSL2 no NBN yet :( so I need all my packets for streaming TV) and the tablets, phone, laptops and guests can go via the wireless.

[KeenGolfer]

Just setup my Pico M2 HP. Signal strength is great, certainly stronger in all areas and can go out well into the yard and still have a good signal. I followed his tutorial to setup: http://youtu.be/lXFUyQeDf4U

[C4B]

Just setup my Pico M2 HP. Signal strength is great, certainly stronger in all areas and can go out well into the yard and still have a good signal. I followed his tutorial to setup: http://youtu.be/lXFUyQeDf4U

The only downside to having a really good signal is people can connect to your network from a greater distance, but so long as you go with a fairly strong key, it's really not a big deal.

A colleague of mine has installed 2 Pico's in their household. One for the adults and one for the kids. The Pico's have the ability to "shape" uplink and/or downlink speeds so they have limited their kids to 2mbps down.... Kind of Quality of Service for the adults in the house....

[KeenGolfer]

I've found the Pico has resolved some intermittent wireless issues. I was having annoyingly random web pages and apps coming up with connection errors, a refresh or two and it would work. Haven't had one since I installed the Pico this morning and it's copped some heavy use today.

[Micks]

I've found the Pico has resolved some intermittent wireless issues. I was having annoyingly random web pages and apps coming up with connection errors, a refresh or two and it would work. Haven't had one since I installed the Pico this morning and it's copped some heavy use today.

Good news, looking forward to receiving mine also.

[Micks]

Good news, looking forward to receiving mine also.

Ok received mine today & installed in approx. ten mins tops.
A very big thanks to C4B doesn't know me from a bar of soap but thoroughly looked after me even from a 1000k's away!!
All I can say is the reception now is WoW!! :drool: just about anywhere on the property! The unit is mounted about 1M below a tin roof too & works fukn great!!
Thanks again..:goodjob::wave:

[Micks]

Have been using the new AP for a week now & working great. Only problem is one W8.1x64 laptop @ times won't detect the AP but detects router & every other bastards too!
Anyone else xp this? All the Macs run perfect & three other W7 PC's are good too.

[C4B]

Have been using the new AP for a week now & working great. Only problem is one W8.1x64 laptop @ times won't detect the AP but detects router & every other bastards too!
Anyone else xp this? All the Macs run perfect & three other W7 PC's are good too.

I ended up loading your config into one of our Pico's (so identical config/same SSID etc.) and tested it with a SurfacePro running 8.1 and it connected every time without issue. Based on that I'd be looking at the machine itself.

[Blown 454 AWD]

After the weekend we now have 4 x HD perfect cameras running.

WiFi is shit, not reliable enough for important video,

Went Ethernet over power and sent the video over the existing 240 power system (can't go through switch boards)

and got perfect cable video without running lines.

Back at my complex where I live, power over Ethernet will get us to the power room (ground floor, 3 up from camera)

From the power room to my unit (has to go through switch board so no go) so we have a free to air TV cable and Foxtel satellite,

we are converting to telly RF signal up the free to air cable into my unit, there we are hard wired without running a wire. (even thought of using the free to air cable as a WiFi antenna, but cables better)

Will know by the end of the day how this works over the RF cable.

Cheers

Steve

[C4B]

EoP is ok for home use where running cable can't be done or the owners are simply too stingy to stump up for it. Hopefully you don't have a digital power meter..... If so I'd be changing the network name on your EoP.

[Micks]

I ended up loading your config into one of our Pico's (so identical config/same SSID etc.) and tested it with a SurfacePro running 8.1 and it connected every time without issue. Based on that I'd be looking at the machine itself.
Thanks will have a look at the drivers!!

[heavychevy]

Hopefully you don't have a digital power meter..... If so I'd be changing the network name on your EoP.

Curious what you mean

[C4B]

Curious what you mean

Analog meters won't allow the signal to propagate beyond the meter.

Documentation I read suggested some digital meters will. Based on that if you have a digital meter (especially if you're in unit block) you should change the network ID.

[Sidewindr]

It used to be that Power Line Communication (PLC) would only work over direct connected power copper conductors and anything resembling a transformer would isolate or block the propagation of the PLC network unless a coupling capacitor was used to bridge the transformer. There are new standards (IEEE 1901, I think) for PLC that don't require coupling and can propagate through transformers with future data rates up to 1Gb apparently from what I can ascertain from the standards documentation. :D If buying a PLC device I recommend that you make sure it is IEEE 1901 compliant

As for changing ID's etc. the latest devices do a key exchange for initial set-up (both in say a power board so they are together and easier to press the sync/set-up/connect buttons) they are then configured to just talk to each other using encryption so you should be relatively safe IMHO ;) .. There's a hell of a lot to read about it and I'm still learning the PLC intricacies ;)

[Blown 454 AWD]

you gotta try every HP outlet as we didn't end up using RF cable, after 30 minutes of finding which was my RF cable,

we fuked around with HP points again and found the one by the power box in my unit that got a connection to the power room,

connected all Ethernet over power from the power room 5 floors from bottom to top all good,

2nd level underground basement to 2nd floor unit, cable without running a wire.

TP-Link AV500 mini Power line Adapter - plug and play in seconds. about $80.00

Cheers

Steve

[V8Fan]

Hey guys. I hope someone can steer me in the right direction with the setup of a Picostation M2 HP. I have set it up as per this youtube video http : //www . youtube . com / watch?v=40gRLL2B6Vs. Everything works but it doesn't punch out a signal anywhere near what others have mentioned. Compared to my normal wireless modem/router it really doesn't throw a signal any further, it deteriorates at the outer edges of the house and certainly degrades as I move in to the yard or out of the house.
Could somebody suggest what I could look at to refine the settings and get that punch I was looking for? Happy to take screen shots etc to show settings.

Thanks for your assistance.

[BigAnt]

Didn't watch the video, but in the settings of the router does it have something like a "Tx Power Level" setting?

Edit - Did a quick google, might be helpful, I think on the picostation its called "output power" under the "Link Setup" tab. Australian legal limit is 36dBm.
Hope I'm barking up the right tree.

[V8Fan]

Thanks for the response.

On the wireless tab there is a slider which allows you to adjust output power from -3 dBm to + 28 dBm. Currently set to max.

On the advanced tab there is a slider for distance and a check box auto adjust. Distance goes from 0 miles to 32.5 miles. Tried a few settings, currently at max with auto adjust deselected.

Thanks

[Micks]

I can't help you out with the settings as I gave my details to C4B on this board & he set mine up all ready to go when I bought one from him some time ago now.
Can tell you will give a good 20M range without dropping off a wireless full bar in Windows & almost same with our Macs too.
Good luck with getting it sorted, if not PM C4 he might be able to point you in the right direction.

[C4B]

Thanks for the response.

On the wireless tab there is a slider which allows you to adjust output power from -3 dBm to + 28 dBm. Currently set to max.

On the advanced tab there is a slider for distance and a check box auto adjust. Distance goes from 0 miles to 32.5 miles. Tried a few settings, currently at max with auto adjust deselected.

Thanks

The distance should be set to Auto. It only adjusts the acknowledgement timeout for long distance links.