Vic RWC and Rego info please.

[Hos]

Hi all,

I am in the process of trying to sell my SSV wagon. I have had a few enquiries from Victorian buyers and each has asked if I can provide a RWC with the car.

I live in SA, so I don't know if this is even something I can organise for potential Vic buyers. Can anyone shed some light on this for me, with info on costs etc.

In terms of mods, it is stock as a rock mechanically. Besides being lowered on SSL springs and shortened shocks, window tint and HID's I can't see any potential issues.

Any help, advice or info would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Hos.

[bush_basha]

Don't live in either state, you should be able to go to an authorised mechanic and get a roadworthy done. Surely when you guys buy cars over there they are sold roadworthy or you have to get one done to get it registered?

[Hos]

If you purchase a vehicle with rego, no inspection required. We are behind the times in this regard.

[Wonky]

It's almost 6 years since I've had a RWC done (when I sold my SSV sedan) but I gather now photographs are required which I assume are stored for a certain period.

On thinking about it, if the HIDs are the all in one type or the ballasts are hidden they shouldn't be a problem. If the clearance is 100mm or more there's no problem and even if just under any reasonable RWC place not trying to drum up work will put it up on the hoist and then check it once it's down. :)

[Toddler78]

Don't live in either state, you should be able to go to an authorised mechanic and get a roadworthy done. Surely when you guys buy cars over there they are sold roadworthy or you have to get one done to get it registered?


Hi all,

I am in the process of trying to sell my SSV wagon. I have had a few enquiries from Victorian buyers and each has asked if I can provide a RWC with the car.

I live in SA, so I don't know if this is even something I can organise for potential Vic buyers. Can anyone shed some light on this for me, with info on costs etc.

In terms of mods, it is stock as a rock mechanically. Besides being lowered on SSL springs and shortened shocks, window tint and HID's I can't see any potential issues.

Any help, advice or info would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Hos.

no in SA we dont require roadworties which is good however the bad side of it is a roadworthy car can be defected by the wrong cop on a bad day.

If you purchase a vehicle in sa and it stays in the state then just change of ownership is required. If you are buying out of state and bringing it into SA you need to take it to motor transport for them to check it over, which is essentially just to ensure that the VIN and the motor numbers all match up and is all legit, then they will provide a number plate. they wont perform a roadworthy on the car unless the car is obviously dangerous, then they send you around the corner for a full check. If someone from interstate wants to buy your car hos and ship it home then it would be their responsibility to take it the the proper authority to check all the numbers match up and perform a road worth if required

[shaness8]

You don't have to supply a RWC because it's going interstate, sell the car as is, and give them a receipt for the purchase, cancel your registration once car is gone you may get some money back pending how much rego you got,

The buyer has to do all the running around they will need to get a RWC in their state, and then take the vehicle in for inspection with VICROADS with the RWC certificate to get new registration plates.

Their up for stamp duty which is $40 for every thousand. also Rego & new plates


RWC which is about $150 just for the inspection plus repairs.

[bush_basha]

IMHO you probably won't sell the car to someone interstate then, there wanting to know if the car will pass roadworthy before paying all that money only to get it home and it won't pass.
In nsw at least you can get the nrma (roadside assistance mob) and they can give the car a mechanical check over report, not so much a roadworthy tho but basically the same thing.

[whitels1ss]

How could anybody seriously worry about a car like that passing a roadworthy test? It's not as if it's an old worn out or hot rodded POS. :lmao:

[Strick]

When ever i have bought a car interstate, its been up to me to get what ever roadworthy is required for what ever state ive been in at the time. You wont be able to provide a Vic roadworthy fron SA unless you drive over, get it done then drive back.

It wouldnt be hard for them to ring anyone that does a roadworthy and ask if it would pass.

When selling a car, its done as whats required for the state its registered in, not where it might possibly go, pitty the states havent got together and can just blanket all cars under the same rules in that regard.

Further to this, im moving to melbourne at the end of the year, so will need to get my car registered down there. Whats getting a road worthy really like in vic? Eg very strict, stick to the rules no matter what, common sence, lots of external testing eg emissions etc

[swingtan]

Basic roadworthy in Vic is a manual check over from a list of specific items to look at. For all non modified cars, it's pretty straight forward and covers basic safety measures. There are stories of places deliberately failing items, ether to try and get the repair job or just to force a retest and make it look like they are doing their job. Either way it's still not a huge deal.

Modified vehicles get additional scrutiny, if the mods are more than a wheel change or slight lowering. Anything that is seen as possibly altering the ADR rules for the vehicle will require engineering sign off. This includes non-type speced brake options, engine changes, suspension changes and body changes. The engineer report normally simply covers the mechanical safety of the vehicle.

If there are major modifications to engine and exhaust, you may also need an EPA check to be done. This might just be a sound level check or it may require full emissions checking.

Basically, if you stick within the Vic guidelines for modifications and retain the appropriate emission control gear, it's pretty easy to get anything passed. I did my old Land Rover - Holden 186 conversion and after the engineer aproved it was all bolted together OK, he just needed to do a brake test and check I had 2 speed wipers ( slow and slower in the Landy).

For selling cars in to Vic for other states, I'd tee you one of the forum sponsors here in Vic and ask them what they can offer. You may be able to sell the car with a requirement that the roadworthy gets done at the sponsors shop, which has a higher trust relation ship than an unknown place.

Regards,

Simon.

[Strick]

Thanks mate, great info there!!

[planetdavo]

Hos, I'd suggest it's a pretty good chance you are dealing with tyre kickers with the questions being asked.
You could perhaps suggest they are welcome to organise a professional pre-purchase inspection (at their expense). It will sort out if they are seriously in the market or not.
If they did still go ahead after that, make sure it's a registered professional inspector, not someone who says they're from a little workshop you've never heard of, or someone who's a mate of someone's mate. Can't be too careful when you have no idea who the hell you are dealing with. They could be either checking it out for dodgy reasons under the guise of "a buyer", or could be getting a kickback for giving the car a bad report as a price bargaining chip.
You need to decide if YOU want the hassle of getting dragged into a more complex (potential) sale.
If they know it's a good deal, and they know what they are doing, they will do most of the homework. :)

[Wonky]

Do you still have the original springs/shocks and headlight globes? If so, include them as part of the deal and say to them IF it fails on either of those items here's the original stuff to put back in. You can't be expected to provide a Vic RWC from your place in SA but you can ensure they can get it as a stock car.

I can understand even serious buyers asking the question because it is an area many people are unsure of.

[Hos]

Thanks for all the input guys.

Yes, I do have all the OEM gear. And I have already stated to prospective buyers that it will all be supplied with the vehicle.

The main reason I was wondering what was involved is that if it was possible to get a RWC done it may help me with the sale of the wagon, as I am pretty keen to sell it ASAP, but for what I think is a fair price. It is one of the cheapest in the country given it's low kms and equipment level.

Time will tell.

Once again , thanks all.

[Wonky]

A Vic RWC used to be about $50 (but as I said it's 6+ years since I had one) and I gather they're around double that now and may even depend on how much stuff they have to check/list. Problem for you is they're only valid for 30 days so not much point you going to all the trouble of driving into Vic to get yourself one it may have expired by the time you need it. Or, maybe you do go and get one done and even if it does expire before a potential sale just say to prospective Vic buyers "here, I had a Vic RWC done and they said all good, or it only needs x and y". Certainly won't be much.

[bozodos]

it's over $100 here in Mildura for a RWC and yes they take photos. I'm inclined to disagree that unmodified cars have no issues - my VZ was completely stock and they insisted on replacing the driver's seatbelt (nothing wrong with it), all 4 tyres, + 1 of the headlight globes. That was literally after I'd bought the car from an SA based dealer as well.

Everyone I know who has gone to get one has had several hundred dollars worth of BS "repairs" needed, the only exceptions being those who've taken their car to another mechanic, then gotten him to organise the RWC elsewhere. That said, I've not known of anyone with a cammed car / exhausts etc have any issues with those items, as they aren't 'safety' or emissions related.

I agree that the potential buyer should organise their own mechanical check over by the local NRMA equivalent or whoever, as legally the seller doesn't have to provide an RWC.

[swingtan]

In Victoria, legally the seller MUST supply a RWC if the car is registered...

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/BuySellTransferVehicles/BuyingSelling/

If you don't want to get a RWC, then you must de-register the car and hand the plates in.

[planetdavo]

I agree that the potential buyer should organise their own mechanical check over by the local NRMA equivalent or whoever, as legally the seller doesn't have to provide an RWC.

I've always said three things involving sales under this "interstate purchase" scenario.
For someone to buy from interstate, it's either got to be rare and hard to find- it's the "carsales scam" where an "agent" will pick up the car but you need to give them some of the "overpaid" money- or it's cheap compared to their local options.
In this case it's not a rare car, and there hasn't been any obvious indication of the carsales scam, so it must be cheaper (compared to the local options for those interstate "potentials").
Don't make their bargain hunting your headache Hos. :)

[bozodos]

I've bought all 3 cars I've owned interstate, and it's something I won't be doing again due to RWC headaches, or in the case of the NSW based cars, having obviously bullshit dodgy roadworthies (too young and naive to get an independent check done).