VF Series II IS HERE

[super coach]

Will be in show rooms in the last QTR of this year

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/8dfceff0bfb567d9ca257e3c0021d7a4

[jc_sv8]

Please, please, please be right!

LS3 317kW/550Nm
HSV-style bi-modal exhaust
Brembo brakes all round
HSV-sized 20-inch rims

[HOTSV8]

Decisions. Spend 12-15k on supercharging the series one SSV or add that to get a series 2 ?? Hmmm .

[jaykay]

Cheap VF series 1 anyone ? :lol:

[Stevieboy34]

I couldn't imagine that cover would be real good in testing in relation to airflow!!
And I'll be stuff if I can see these new bonnet vents?

[CLUBRED]

Almost at the sides, sort of about 3/4 towards the windscreen I think.

[RED R8]

Decisions. Spend 12-15k on supercharging the series one SSV or add that to get a series 2 ?? Hmmm .Maf tune and OTR gets you the same 317kW, My Redline has brembos (to add rears is cheap) so don't stress too much :)

[HOTSV8]

Maf tune and OTR gets you the same 317kW, My Redline has brembos (to add rears is cheap) so don't stress too much :)

yeh , I've already got the Walkinshaw pack and as you say , throwing some Bremboes on the back is nothing really .

[Micks]

But will we get a series 3 before they go in 2017? :popcorn:

[jc_sv8]

I think this will be the last change, later it will be only sticker packs...

[redvxr8clubby]

I think this will be the last change, later it will be only sticker packs...

Agree, VF was late 2013, VFII late 2015, end of production late 2017. I don't think there will any more updates unless perhaps minor trim or colour changes etc maybe late 2016. I always thought the last 2 years production will hold their value a bit better than is normal for a Commodore, and if SS comes out with 6.2 and around 300Kw just makes this more likely. Only thing I can see against this is if there is jitters about support for the car as it nears end of life - parts availability etc.

[CLUBRED]

I thought VF was May, not late '13?

[CLUBRED]

But will we get a series 3 before they go in 2017? :popcorn:

"Z" series...

[super coach]

jc_sv8 you are on he right track with what the SSV/SSV Redline will have.... ;) also to that add a new hero colour, new wheel design and the shark fin aerial.

[jc_sv8]

I'm off to Elizabeth on 22 May so will get the goss!

[jaykay]

I was reading somewhere that the engine may be an L99 and not LS3 ? :confused:

[Micks]

I was reading somewhere that the engine may be an L99 and not LS3 ? :confused:
Just doesn't really make sense to introduce another V8 variant this close to the end! Also being a 6.2 AFM one @ that :eeew:

[macca_779]

Just doesn't really make sense to introduce another V8 variant this close to the end! Also being a 6.2 AFM one @ that :eeew:

It's not new though. Holden has been fitting it for years into the SS for export. To me it makes more sense to run L99 instead of LS3 as then you don't loose AFM. Got to think marketing from Holdens perspective. Not performance from an enthusiast.

[jaykay]

Found what I read so here it is.....

- L99 produces 400hp/395lb-ft tq compared to LS3's 422hp/408lb-ft tq.
- L99 camshaft is different -- having a little less duration and a little less lift, both of which give the engine a smoother idle.
- L99 has a cam phaser and, to get the additional piston-to-valve clearance required when cam phasing changes, the pistons are different parts having valve reliefs machined into their tops. The reliefs lower the compression ratio to 10.4:1.
- L99 PCV system is different having its oil separators in the valve covers rather than down in the valley like the LS3

[jc_sv8]

Both are 6.2L and the L99 is the AFM variant of the LS3. 400HP is a good start for me! :driving:

[crisis]

I think this will be the last change, later it will be only sticker packs...

Oh yeah. Expect numerous “special” editions with all sorts of fruit to run out leftover parts. Should be some interesting versions.

As a side note me and my mates have joked about not buying a VF after the announcement to finish production was made. I wonder at the motivation of the workers now they are all to be sacked and if any “sabotage” might take place. :up2sum:

[Smitty]

Found what I read so here it is.....

- L99 produces 400hp/395lb-ft tq compared to LS3's 422hp/408lb-ft tq.
..............

I thought LS3 as fitted to the latest HSV's was closer to 460hp (340kw)

[RED R8]

Found what I read so here it is.....

- L99 produces 400hp/395lb-ft tq compared to LS3's 422hp/408lb-ft tq.
- L99 camshaft is different -- having a little less duration and a little less lift, both of which give the engine a smoother idle.
- L99 has a cam phaser and, to get the additional piston-to-valve clearance required when cam phasing changes, the pistons are different parts having valve reliefs machined into their tops. The reliefs lower the compression ratio to 10.4:1.
- L99 PCV system is different having its oil separators in the valve covers rather than down in the valley like the LS3
Took the words right out of my mouth...:teach:

plenty of 11-12 second LS1's out there so really doesn't matter what base motor any of them have no one here keeps them stock anyway :hide:

[jc_sv8]

It will be interesting to see if Holden tweak the engine (either one) given that Ford rules the numbers game with 335KW...

[jaykay]

It will be interesting to see if Holden tweak the engine (either one) given that Ford rules the numbers game with 335KW...

I doubt we will see a number that high on a Holden in this update....

There is a poll up now so have a vote and let's see where it ends up at...

[super coach]

have it on good authority that it will be more than 315 which is what the Chevy SS is rated at, so looks like 325 it will be.

[XUV]

it'll be 307, 317 , 325/7, 334 hmm 334 , they havn't one that one yet, which equals 434hp, so 7 in both , win win and extra lucky ;)

[RED R8]

it'll be 307, 317 , 325/7, 334 hmm 334 , they havn't one that one yet, which equals 434hp, so 7 in both , win win and extra lucky ;)They won't go 334kw so Ford has them by 1 they may go 337kW ????

[BLACKVE]

it'll be 307, 317 , 325/7, 334 hmm 334 , they havn't one that one yet, which equals 434hp, so 7 in both , win win and extra lucky ;)

need a gap to HSV gents, will be 310 to 320 ish

[Micks]

I doubt we will see a number that high on a Holden in this update....

There is a poll up now so have a vote and let's see where it ends up at...

Is first prize a run in your fast Beamer perhaps...John :D

[RED R8]

Is first prize a run in your fast Beamer perhaps...John :D

haha....you said "fast Beamer"....:fishing:

[Micks]

haha....you said "fast Beamer"....:fishing:

Daz, surely it has a great power to weight ratio!

[jaykay]

Is first prize a run in your fast Beamer perhaps...John :D

If it has arrived Mick sure...

[macca_779]

haha....you said "fast Beamer"....:fishing:

I'll race you against my "fast beemer" first to 300km/h.. Oh thats right you can't get there lol

[macca_779]

Here is a sneak peak about what the VFII will be like. Even lists Horsepower of the 6.2L funnily enough.

http://www.chevrolet.com/ss-sports-sedan.html

[jaykay]

Here is a sneak peak about what the VFII will be like. Even lists Horsepower of the 6.2L funnily enough.

http://www.chevrolet.com/ss-sports-sedan.html

Bet we don't get MRC...... And 415hp=307kw

What Beema you got Macca ?

[RED R8]

I'll race you against my "fast beemer" first to 300km/h.. Oh thats right you can't get there lol
That's handy :eek:

[macca_779]

Bet we don't get MRC...... And 415hp=307kw

What Beema you got Macca ?

Who knows Holden might chuck it in there too

I've got an S1000RR mate

[Smitty]

.....

I've got an S1000RR mate


Aren't they incapable of exceeding 299... being speed limited?
unlike my Kawasaki.... ;)

[macca_779]

Aren't they incapable of exceeding 299... being speed limited?
unlike my Kawasaki.... ;)

No they're not. Gauge stops at 299 but rpm keeps going. You can fix that in the tune if you want anyway

What Kawi you got

[Brendan]

I'd love to replace my VTII SS with a VFII SS but it will be a VF Calais V V6 wagon so my wife is allowed to drive it, she won't be off Ps before 2017.

Shitload cheaper to insure as well.

[team illucid]

I'd love to replace my VTII SS with a VFII SS but it will be a VF Calais V V6 wagon so my wife is allowed to drive it, she won't be off Ps before 2017.

Shitload cheaper to insure as well.

So get the V8 and tell her to catch a bus for another 18 months - everyone wins ;)

[Micks]

So get the V8 and tell her to catch a bus for another 18 months - everyone wins ;)

That would be one "Brave" Man there! :teach:

[BLACKVE]

Here is a sneak peak about what the VFII will be like. Even lists Horsepower of the 6.2L funnily enough.

http://www.chevrolet.com/ss-sports-sedan.html

I think that will be close, the Calais won't get the bi model exhaust and the redline the MRC

pretty sure the L99 will bi in auto Calais etc

Glad I didn't get a early VF

[jc_sv8]

Hence why I've been hanging out...

[Plenty]

Hence why I've been hanging out...

I'm hanging out for the 2017 650Kw GTS :shock:.......... Regardless if you wait or not there is always something better just around the corner. What happens if you wait and these "rumours" turn out to be a dud, just like every other time prior?

[Brendan]

So get the V8 and tell her to catch a bus for another 18 months - everyone wins ;)

Try 3 years, she hasn't got her L's yet.

[jc_sv8]

I'm hanging out for the 2017 650Kw GTS :shock:.......... Regardless if you wait or not there is always something better just around the corner. What happens if you wait and these "rumours" turn out to be a dud, just like every other time prior?

Time will tell Plenty, I nearly pulled the trigger last year but good things come to those that wait. :dancenana:

[team illucid]

good things come to those that wait. :dancenana:

I have always hated this saying. When you wait, you miss out on the here and now. Yes you will get something newer, but by the time you get it, you have missed a great deal of time enjoying something else.

[jc_sv8]

It is usually said by procrastinators! :p

In this case I don't mind, as I'm building a house as well so the funds are coming in handy, but should be in a position by October/Nov to jump into something new.
The old SV8 still puts a smile on my face every time I jump into it, so I'm not missing out!

[jaykay]

It is usually said by procrastinators! :p

In this case I don't mind, as I'm building a house as well so the funds are coming in handy, but should be in a position by October/Nov to jump into something new.
The old SV8 still puts a smile on my face every time I jump into it, so I'm not missing out!

That SV8 still going...wow you have had a great run out of it. How many kms now ??

[Smitty]

I have always hated this saying. When you wait, you miss out on the here and now. Yes you will get something newer, but by the time you get it, you have missed a great deal of time enjoying something else.

I agree... otherwise I would not be driving a new Holden made V8 manual wagon
Simply not available any more and if I waited until Feb-March 2015 as I was originally
going to.. I would have been stiff.

I am not into procrastination :)

[jc_sv8]

Hey John, 126K and running as good as the day I bought it. A couple of niggling things, like windscreen washers not squirting, aerial doesn't go down the last 3 inches, dents and scratches from city carparks, the usual stuff on a 12+ year old car. Clutch is getting close, but it's the original so can't complain...

[Micks]

aerial doesn't go down the last 3 inches
I thought that was the "joke of the day" :lol:

[IJ.]

I thought that was the "joke of the day" :lol:

Who is this Aerial girl he speaks of?? ;)

[Micks]

Who is this Aerial girl he speaks of?? ;)

Too many filthy minds on the blue screen ffs!! :doh:

[crisis]

Hey John, 126K and running as good as the day I bought it. A couple of niggling things, like windscreen washers not squirting, aerial doesn't go down the last 3 inches, dents and scratches from city carparks, the usual stuff on a 12+ year old car. Clutch is getting close, but it's the original so can't complain...


I had a VY SV8 and loved it to bits. I got the Holden By Design body kit which gave it a bit of flair over a Commy with a rear spoiler look. I've never seen another one with that body kit. Had to sell it but pined for the LS1 6 speed fix ever since. All sorted now with the CV8 more than filling the void. :love:

http://s27.postimg.org/4i5g2tq7n/Untitled_1.jpg

[Wonky]

I had a VY SV8 and loved it to bits. I got the Holden By Design body kit which gave it a bit of flair over a Commy with a rear spoiler look. I've never seen another one with that body kit. Had to sell it but pined for the LS1 6 speed fix ever since. All sorted now with the CV8 more than filling the void. :love:

http://s27.postimg.org/4i5g2tq7n/Untitled_1.jpg
I too had a red VY SV8 with HBD bodykit, bought brand new March 2003. That was the start of my Commodore V8 love affair. Since had 2 VZ SS sedans, VE SSV sedan, VE SSV ute and now VE Senator. Probably 200,000+ km in total and not one more than very minor mechanical problems.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/Previous%20Vehicles/047%20SV8%201%20-%20April%202003_zpsevttvkkn.jpg

[jaykay]

A 310kw / 565Nm (and 100 kg lighter than current 335kW XR8) XR6 Turbo coming under $50k........:hmmm:

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/ford-set-to-farewell-falcon-with-fastest-xr6-turbo-yet-32525?utm_source=cg&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=theguide#.VVU9P46qpBc

[Hi Octane]

How many Fgx's have people seen i live in the Sutherland Shire (Burbs) & could count on 1 hand the amount i have seen, 2 utes & 1 sedan thats all i can recall. Under 50k for an FPV engined falc is good going.

[macca_779]

A 310kw / 565Nm (and 100 kg lighter than current 335kW XR8) XR6 Turbo coming under $50k........:hmmm:

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/ford-set-to-farewell-falcon-with-fastest-xr6-turbo-yet-32525?utm_source=cg&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=theguide#.VVU9P46qpBc

About time. Its always been the best bang for buck performance car this country has ever made. Now its even better.

[jaykay]

How many Fgx's have people seen i live in the Sutherland Shire (Burbs) & could count on 1 hand the amount i have seen, 2 utes & 1 sedan thats all i can recall. Under 50k for an FPV engined falc is good going.

I have seen many up here in SEQld..they are a nice looking car


About time. Its always been the best bang for buck performance car this country has ever made. Now its even better. :yup:

[Micks]

A 310kw / 565Nm (and 100 kg lighter than current 335kW XR8) XR6 Turbo coming under $50k........:hmmm:

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/ford-set-to-farewell-falcon-with-fastest-xr6-turbo-yet-32525?utm_source=cg&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=theguide#.VVU9P46qpBc

Now that is one faast Taxi!! :yahoo:

[Smitty]

About time. Its always been the best bang for buck performance car this country has ever made. Now its even better.

... but who would actually drive something that looks that butt ugly? :hide:

[whitels1ss]

... but who would actually drive something that looks that butt ugly? :hide:

I actually think it looks good! :goodjob:

[macca_779]

... but who would actually drive something that looks that butt ugly? :hide:

I would drive it. Its fast

[white lie]

I don't mind the external looks, just don't like the interiors. If I was to go to the dark side, it would be a tough choice between the turbo 6 or blown 8. I still think I'd lean towards the V8, despite which is quicker in stock terms...neither would stay stock for overly long

[whitels1ss]

I don't mind the external looks, just don't like the interiors. If I was to go to the dark side, it would be a tough choice between the turbo 6 or blown 8. I still think I'd lean towards the V8, despite which is quicker in stock terms...neither would stay stock for overly long

Yeah I would go for the V8 because I love the sound of a V8

[crisis]

I actually think it looks good! :goodjob:

Have to agree. Best looking modern Falcon ever.

[RED R8]

Bit Lancer'ish BUT I don't mind the new Falcon....could look good modified.

[Smitty]

Have to agree. Best looking modern Falcon ever.

compared to the AU ... anything has to be better :flip3:


but compared to the Mustang and Mondeo, the Falcon front is blah ugly

[lmoengnr]

compared to the AU ... anything has to be better :flip3:


but compared to the Mustang and Mondeo, the Falcon front is blah ugly

Gotta agree..... Followed an XR6T the other night, looked good from the rear, but a very fugly front...

[Micks]

compared to the AU ... anything has to be better :flip3:


but compared to the Mustang and Mondeo, the Falcon front is blah ugly

Good mate of mine is Ford through & through...but he could not accept the look of the new Falcon front end...just Horrid he reckons, so he bought a new SSV Ute & just :love: it!

[XUV]

Good mate of mine is Ford through & through...but he could not accept the look of the new Falcon front end...just Horrid he reckons, so he bought a new SSV Ute & just :love: it!
how quickly they forget the ay ewe ....

[701let]

I would drive it. Its fast

how often do you drive it that 'fast' it matters? straight up ugly and outdated. :hide:

disclaimer: I actually like the FG GTs

[mjrandom]

How can an iron block 6 sharing pretty much all the same other naughty bits be 100kg lighter than an alloy block V8?????????

[jaykay]

I just hope Holden aren't stingy with the power output in this upgrade knowing what Ford are doing...

[Smitty]

How can an iron block 6 sharing pretty much all the same other naughty bits be 100kg lighter than an alloy block V8?????????


... FORD (or should I say FRAUD) Marketing say so :)

[super coach]

latest info

New hero model for MY16 is

SSV Redline in Slipstream (new colour – solid blue/purple), with LS3 pumping out 325kW, with bi-model exhaust, new wheel design, vents in bonnet and slight revision to front and rear ends.

[RED R8]

latest info

New hero model for MY16 is

SSV Redline in Slipstream (new colour – solid blue/purple), with LS3 pumping out 325kW, with bi-model exhaust, new wheel design, vents in bonnet and slight revision to front and rear ends.

Noice.....

[highlander_69r]

325kw and a bimodal exhaust.............HSV need to spend some coin to justify the price differential.

[jaykay]

latest info

new hero model for my16 is

ssv redline in slipstream (new colour – solid blue/purple), with ls3 pumping out 325kw, with bi-model exhaust, new wheel design, vents in bonnet and slight revision to front and rear ends.

I heard it will be an L99 ?........

[Smitty]

latest info

New hero model for MY16 is

SSV Redline in Slipstream (new colour – solid blue/purple), with LS3 pumping out 325kW, with bi-model exhaust, new wheel design, vents in bonnet and slight revision to front and rear ends.

well.. if correct HSV has just seen the death knell of the standard (not R8) 325 Clubsport
there would be no way people are going to pay a large HSV style premium for the standard Clubsport
when the SSv is packing the same punch, fancy wheels and HSV logos are not worth that much :(

[RED R8]

well.. if correct HSV has just seen the death knell of the standard (not R8) 325 Clubsport
there would be no way people are going to pay a large HSV style premium for the standard Clubsport
when the SSv is packing the same punch, fancy wheels and HSV logos are not worth that much :(
I agree..... The Redline has decent brakes, sunroof standard as nice an interior Bar the cheap HSV gauges that are useless anyway, Redline has Staggered large wheels, Bose sound, then add a LS3, nice fancy bonnet, Bi model and new wheels???? doesn't add up to me....Even makes the GTS look like a joke at 30k more than a Redline for a blower?

[Smitty]

I agree..... The Redline has decent brakes, sunroof standard as nice an interior Bar the cheap HSV gauges that are useless anyway, Redline has Staggered large wheels, Bose sound, then add a LS3, nice fancy bonnet, Bi model and new wheels???? doesn't add up to me....Even makes the GTS look like a joke at 30k more than a Redline for a blower?

I will defend the GTS here. Up top, it is familiar territory to most of us on here....
BUT get one up on hoist and have a look at the changes and stuff underneath. There is a lot of costly engineering that has gone on under the
car and really, in some areas it is a V8 Supercar that has been made streetable.

[mjrandom]

Yes I have a GTS so it is in my interest to say it is better but the GTS is without doubt the best thing to come out of HSV. And Holden. I have driven both, no comparison.

[RED R8]

Yes I have a GTS so it is in my interest to say it is better but the GTS is without doubt the best thing to come out of HSV. And Holden. I have driven both, no comparison. I have driven them Both and don't get me wrong the GTS was mind blowing (as are the other supercharged commodores I've driven) but I felt there is a limit I will pay for a commodore and 95k was too much. I then drove the Redline and honestly could not (apart from the obvious 170kw deficit) couldn't feel from behind the wheel much of a justifiable difference. Bare in Mind I love my Holden V8's I had the Green light from my wife (no easy feat) and the green light from my accountant to head off and lay down 95k on the Best most powerful HSV ever built.....I ended up driving it and breaking into a cold sweat when I realised this is just a commodore and its nearly $100,000.... I ended up some time later in a 13,000km 2014 Redline for 42k and if I decide to put a blower on it it will take on the GTS and still owe me a fraction of the 100k....
Saying that no one needs to defend their purchasing decision to buy a new GTS or any car for that matter, buy what you can afford and what YOU like.....we all have different opinions/needs/wants and budgets the redline just suited all of mine.

[Micks]

Yes the GTS/LSA has lotsa extra gear that not many speak of! A few have transplanted the LSA into various Commodores realizing while it's a straight forward swap there are many more extras the setup does require.

[mjrandom]

The brakes and torque vectoring are worth a big chunk of the difference let alone the nicer office. Each to their own. A Redline would be nice. A GAtS is just nicer.

[JimmyXR6T04]

The brakes and torque vectoring are worth a big chunk of the difference let alone the nicer office. Each to their own. A Redline would be nice. A GAtS is just nicer.

Not to mention all the other parts that were specifically engineered for the GTS. It's not just an SS with blower and brakes. HSV did a fantastic job with the GTS.

It never computes for me, when people say i could buy X car and mod it and blow the doors off Y car. That can be done with a datsun or corolla too. Regardless, spend 50k on an SSV, add blower, fuel mods, brakes, suspension, intercooler, exhaust, and anything else that requires beefing up and you're soon pushing 75k... An extra 20k for a factory warranted car, engineered that way from the start ain't too bad... In several years, the 95k GTS will still fetch GTS money, but the SS with 20 odd thousand on it will still fetch SS money (for the most part)...

[RED R8]

Not to mention all the other parts that were specifically engineered for the GTS. It's not just an SS with blower and brakes. HSV did a fantastic job with the GTS.

It never computes for me, when people say i could buy X car and mod it and blow the doors off Y car. That can be done with a datsun or corolla too. Regardless, spend 50k on an SSV, add blower, fuel mods, brakes, suspension, intercooler, exhaust, and anything else that requires beefing up and you're soon pushing 75k... An extra 20k for a factory warranted car, engineered that way from the start ain't too bad... In several years, the 95k GTS will still fetch GTS money, but the SS with 20 odd thousand on it will still fetch SS money (for the most part)...
I do agree, but I guess what some are saying is that if the new Commodore has a LS3 better suspension, bimodal exhaust etc etc is there enough of a gap to justify a Clubsport for instance? The GTS will always be in a league of its own with its configuration.....About time I may add the VE GTS had little Extra over the R8..

[JimmyXR6T04]

I do agree, but I guess what some are saying is that if the new Commodore has a LS3 better suspension, bimodal exhaust etc etc is there enough of a gap to justify a Clubsport for instance? The GTS will always be in a league of its own with its configuration.....About time I may add the VE GTS had little Extra over the R8..

Totally agree with the SSV vs Clubsport. Will be interesting to see if HSV do something special for the clubby.

[jaykay]

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1505/holden-commodore-to-get-apple-carplay-android-auto/

[Micks]

Don't think it would be a "deal clincher" ;)

[sjhugh]

I'm off to Elizabeth on 22 May so will get the goss!

So what did you hear?

[disorganise]

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1505/holden-commodore-to-get-apple-carplay-android-auto/

It's not clear to me....is this only for phone and music functions? or can you essentially 'screen share'? ie, does this mean I could run my phone GPS (Sygic) up on the centre screen instead of using a phone holder?
[FWIW I have a GTS on order and haven't tried the in-built GPS of any Holden - I tried it on a hire car in the UK {Vauxhall Insignia} and wasn't impressed - went back to my phone]

[jc_sv8]

So what did you hear?

Unfortunately I had to go to a funeral in Hahndorf, so the trip to the factory got canned.

[jaykay]

Unfortunately I had to go to a funeral in Hahndorf, so the trip to the factory got canned.

So what was your excuse ? :stick:

[sixlta]

Have been told a few things by a few dealers,

All speculation thus far

VF SS will be 340kw LS3
All HSV will be LSA with exception of the grange
HSV power lifted to 380-400
GTS to remain top of the tree at 340
REDLINE Models to have a LSA option....... Interesting!
SSv to get all the tech gear like HUD, Paddles, Brembos, etc
new front and rear clip to all including the UTE and WAGON
big changes to mylink
New seats as per export model
bi-modal on ss
adjustable suspention on ss

heap of custom bits like the black roof, black wheels etc
also mentioned a new GRAY,

remembering the the holdens won't get all the HSV driveline and suspension etc, so I believe there's still room for the clubsports,

Will be interesting to see what's what later in the year
Few items have already come true like the supercharged HSV range, so hopefully, the rest is right

[white lie]

It may only be the manual SS's that get the LS3. Autos are getting the L99.

All of this info is covered in another thread somewhere

[joeboss]

Can't wait to see what happens.

[Tre-Cool]

I wouldn't mind a series 2 ute or one of the last run out cars before they cease making. but then again if we get the Camaro or corvette, I'll just save my money for one of them.

[jaykay]

Test colours....

Son of a Gun
4295

Slipstream
4296

Spitfire
4297

Light my Fire
4298

[dgp]

I like the son of a gun, can't wait to see that one in the flesh.

[jaykay]

I like the son of a gun, can't wait to see that one in the flesh.

x 2 looks nice in the sun.....:yup:

[jc_sv8]

Would be great to see it up real close to see what colour fleck it has in it.

[damonr]

where does holden come up with the shit colours from???

FROM THE PHOTOS

Light my Fire looks terrible

spitfire looks like atomic green maybe brighter.ok

slipstream looks darker than vodoo ok better than perfect blue which is too light (shit) and may be similar too or lighter than impulse.

just my 2 cents worth

[Goggles]

Test colours....

Son of a Gun
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looks very much like this - ignoring the rocket red
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[white lie]

where does holden come up with the shit colours from???

FROM THE PHOTOS

Light my Fire looks terrible

spitfire looks like atomic green maybe brighter.ok

slipstream looks darker than vodoo ok better than perfect blue which is too light (shit) and may be similar too or lighter than impulse.

just my 2 cents worth
I'd have to disagree.
Light my fire is the only one I'm on the fence about. I reckon it will look good in the sun but Holden haven't had much success with orange hues on Commodores. Fusion is about the only one I've ever liked.

Slipstream and Son of a gun look great. Spitfire looks like an alright hero colour but a bit bright for me personally.

[A PSYCHO]

That gold and green are, ughhhh.... :spew:

[macca_779]

Test colours....

Light my Fire
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Holden trying Tiger Mica AGAIN! Let it go FFS

[HOLDAN]

What did the Walkinshaw pack cost?


yeh , I've already got the Walkinshaw pack and as you say , throwing some Bremboes on the back is nothing really .

[HOTSV8]

What did the Walkinshaw pack cost?


Too much . I am actually going to get Tekno to supercharge it in the near future .

[super coach]

here is what is happening to MY16 Chev SS, gives us an idea for MY16 Commodore.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/08/2016-chevrolet-ss-updates-and-changes-revealed/

[vr5speedv6]

Son of a gun followed by light my fire for me. So it seems like the series 2 will get the L99 6.2 (AFM) auto and LS3 for manual. I wonder the chances the 3.6 LFX will be replaced with the 250 KW 3640cc LGX? That would be a great way to send off the commodore, a 250Kw v6 and an Ls3 V8!

[steen]

I wonder the chances the 3.6 LFX will be replaced with the 250 KW 3640cc LGX? That would be a great way to send off the commodore, a 250Kw v6 and an Ls3 V8!
Pt Melb is unlikely to be retooled, so I recon they'll stick to LFX. All Holden/HSV drivetrain parts come from Mexico (except AY6) & LGW/LGX are USA made. LFX is 240kw/370nm capable but they didn't retune LLT->LFX. Instead they reduced weight & used the 6L45. Going for more power/torque means they'll need to use the heavier & costlier 6L50 for autos again. The innovation with LGX is cylinder deactivation & AFM.

[CLUBRED]

So no LF3 either :(

[jaykay]

I wonder ??

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[csv rulz]

I wonder ??

4322
Seen this in the current Wheels mag. It looks bloody good in my opinion. Fingers crossed they look like this

[jaykay]

Good luck getting up driveways

[team illucid]

What does the back look like? That is what ruins the VF range, it is the UC Torana fiasco all over again :)

[jc_sv8]

They need to do something to break up the big slab of rear bumper on the current VF, similar to what HSV have done...

[amckiwi]

Or buy a ute lol

[Micks]

What does the back look like? That is what ruins the VF range, it is the UC Torana fiasco all over again :)

That an a UC Torry never got a V8! ;)

[team illucid]

Yup .. Failed turbo was about as good as it got.

[steen]

LFX is 240kw/370nm capable but they didn't retune LLT->LFX. Instead they reduced weight & used the 6L45. Going for more power/torque means they'll need to use the heavier & costlier 6L50 for autos again.

Sorry to quote myself. Latest spec for 6L45 is 240kw/370nm and is produced in Strasbourg.

[jaykay]

476kW HSV ?

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/corvette-heart-on-the-cards-for-476kw-hsv-20150820-gj447t.html

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

476kW HSV ?

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/corvette-heart-on-the-cards-for-476kw-hsv-20150820-gj447t.html

But will it really be any faster??? The GT-F isn't that "much" slower down the 1/4 than the current GTS. Surely they could spend the money on redesigning the rear end trying to find more speed in traction?

[Plenty]

But will it really be any faster??? The GT-F isn't that "much" slower down the 1/4 than the current GTS. Surely they could spend the money on redesigning the rear end trying to find more speed in traction?

Well considering the GT-F has more power at the wheels than the GTS, yet the GTS is faster. The rear end in the GTS is not going to get any better than it already is, more power is all it will need as traction/power down is not an issue.

[white lie]

Nothing wrong with the rear end in the GTS. Plenty of quick modified ones, running good times on street tyres.

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

At those sorts of power levels I predict at best a 0.1sec reduction in 0-100 times and maybe a 0.2 sec reduction in 1/4 mile times, at best. I would have thought maybe some moves to take weight out of the car or other tech would be more cost effective and beneficial surely?

[steen]

I originally discounted the drive article as the LS9 has been out of production for some time. However, Chevrolet Performance (crate engines) still have limited stock. HSV could grab a number for a limited final year run. Interestingly, LS7 is still in production in Silao for the Gen5 Camaro Z28.

[Plenty]

At those sorts of power levels I predict at best a 0.1sec reduction in 0-100 times and maybe a 0.2 sec reduction in 1/4 mile times, at best. I would have thought maybe some moves to take weight out of the car or other tech would be more cost effective and beneficial surely?
The problem they face is a lack of money or willingness to commit said money to a dying car. It is obviously more cost effective to just turn the power up rather than re-design parts for weight reduction.

[white lie]

There's still the deal about carbon fibre parts... But I don't see that as a major weight saving. Can easily trim some of the fat from the GTS though just by removing all the luxo options

[steen]

Interestingly, LS7 is still in production in Silao for the Gen5 Camaro Z28.
Correction. Bowling Green, KY.

[jaykay]

So has anyone on the Forum put a deposit down for an LS9 GTS-R ?

[CALDIR]

So has anyone on the Forum put a deposit down for an LS9 GTS-R ?

Hi

Does anyone know what price they will be? What color would be best for those that want to keep it long term?
I am trying to establish what year these LS9 GTS-R's will be. If they are going to be a 2016 and 2016 is the last year that HSV's are built I will buy one. But if it is going to be a 2015 MY16 built car and HSV's are still getting built in 2017 I might wait just in case another surprise is released.

"VFGTSR" custom rego has already been taken for Victoria!

Regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[jaykay]

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2015/08/...ion-hsv-model/

Rumours are close to $120k and 2016 Richard....that would make it the 20th anniversary of the VS GTS-R....maybe a hint of the colour ??

GTSR LS9 plates still available in Qld...other combos already gone

[CALDIR]

Hi

I hope they do use the GTSR name for this car as I just purchased the custom rego: GTSRVF for Victoria.
I also just called my local HSV dealer and left a message for them to get back to me.
I feel like a little fat kid in a candy store again.

Regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[jaykay]

What do they cost down there Richard....up here they are $3,295 for the GTSR LS9 plate

VFGTSR and GTSRVF are gawn up here

[CALDIR]

Hi

It cost me $525 on a HSV upgrade plate so has HSV in very small letters written along the bottom, 1 plate is in standard size and 1 is in slimline size.
I hope they only release this GTSR in a single color.

Regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[HOTSV8]

Looks like the nsw plate. VFGTSR is now gone also. :driving:

[highlander_69r]

The GTS-R saga has been going on for an eternity. Next rumour will be a 2 door.....

Cant see HSV doing much more then a few token "shadow chrome decals" and adding a premium 10k for the hell of it.

[white lie]

The GTS-R saga has been going on for an eternity. Next rumour will be a 2 door.....

Cant see HSV doing much more then a few token "shadow chrome decals" and adding a premium 10k for the hell of it.
This one has been a long time in the making. The actual car, not just the rumour ;)

[PaulM]

Some spy photos of the series II VF:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/373837/2016-holden-vf-commodore-ss-v-spy-photos-final-locally-produced-ss-commodore-to-get-6-2l-v8-paddle-shifters-and-bi-modal-exhaust/

[A PSYCHO]

They better update the ass end on the utes.

[jc_sv8]

Word is they are...

[super coach]

Im planning on heading out to the factory this weekend, will see if I spot any in the lot.

[jaykay]

VF Series II will be officially released on Sunday 13 September.......

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-passenger/holden/commodore/holdens-last-aussie-commodore-to-debut-next-weekend-53529

[BLACKVE]

Im planning on heading out to the factory this weekend, will see if I spot any in the lot.

Seen some MY15 builds in new colours but nothing else, yard is pretty empty. lots of SV6 builds in wagon

[Goggles]

VF Series II will be officially released on Sunday 13 September.......

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-passenger/holden/commodore/holdens-last-aussie-commodore-to-debut-next-weekend-53529

this happens to be the day of the Sandown 500

[jaykay]

this happens to be the day of the Sandown 500

Hope they unveil it on the starting grid before the race starts :driving:

[CLUBRED]

Ooo, cheque book is at the ready... Does that include HSV on the 13th?

[jaykay]

Ooo, cheque book is at the ready... Does that include HSV on the 13th?

Nope just Holden....

[Smitty]

Ooo, cheque book is at the ready... Does that include HSV on the 13th?

I would not think so ...as HSV are having a dealer only sales presentation of the 'next new model' next Monday
which by the way.. requires dealer sales managers and DPs to sign a statement of confidentiality!

[super coach]

a sneak peak from HSV? maybe not. but it does look good none the less, cheque book out and awaiting.....

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l225/supercoach24/11894993_10206535157970521_4517999027486075730_o.j pg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/supercoach24/media/11894993_10206535157970521_4517999027486075730_o.j pg.html)

[white lie]

Personally think it looks like crap
Just looks like a GTS sticker special

[jaykay]

Personally think it looks like crap
Just looks like a GTS sticker special

:yup: :spew:

[Woodchukka]

I don't mind the look of it. However it is what they do under the colour scheme that one would hope makes it special.

[whitels1ss]

:yup: :spew:

+1 :spew::spew::spew:

[CLUBRED]

A GTS-R will not have a clubby body kit.. lol

[offshore]

The GTS-R should come with those carbon fibre wheels that a built in Melbourne. Along with the carbon brakes from the Camaro should set it apart.

[Xjas]

a sneak peak from HSV? maybe not. but it does look good none the less, cheque book out and awaiting.....

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l225/supercoach24/11894993_10206535157970521_4517999027486075730_o.j pg (http://s97.photobucket.com/user/supercoach24/media/11894993_10206535157970521_4517999027486075730_o.j pg.html)

Needs a bigger rear wing

[super coach]

just been advised - MY16 HSV model, new Clubsport 415kw, with air intakes in bonnet . No power increase for GTS, which means that maybe the GTS will stop being produced by this time next year and replaced by the GTSR????

[Smitty]

Needs a bigger rear wing

.. it will need a new boot lid if that's the case (wings are small due to the alloy lid)

[Smitty]

just been advised - MY16 HSV model, new Clubsport 415kw, with air intakes in bonnet . No power increase for GTS, which means that maybe the GTS will stop being produced by this time next year and replaced by the GTSR????

supercharged Clubsport then?

[jaykay]

just been advised - MY16 HSV model, new Clubsport 415kw, with air intakes in bonnet . No power increase for GTS, which means that maybe the GTS will stop being produced by this time next year and replaced by the GTSR????

415kW in a Clubby.......wonder how much they will be hmmmm

[super coach]

$1,000 - $1,200 more that the RRP is now for MY15

[CALDIR]

Hi

I was advised today that the MY16 Clubsport would have 400kw? I thought us Melbournites should have more kw due to the cooler weather and not less?

Regards,

GTSRVF

[jaykay]

https://www.facebook.com/holdenaustralia/videos/10153538890964898/?ref=4&action_history=null


https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fhold enaustralia%2Fvideos%2F10153538775179898%2F&display=popup&ref=plugin

[Smitty]

https://www.facebook.com/holdenaustralia/videos/10153538890964898/?ref=4&action_history=null


https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fhold enaustralia%2Fvideos%2F10153538775179898%2F&display=popup&ref=plugin


.. saw that on BookFace earlier tonite. An actual invite direct from Holden lobbed into my inbox at work at lunchtime today
(courtesy of me being fleet manager at work ...and us buying the odd Commodore or 20)

[QIKMIK]

Got the same invite for the online VFII launch - 13 Sep.

MOTOR reckon the new Clubby is up for 395kw...

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Mick

[Uwish]

I was told 400kw for the clubbie and 80k plus

[steen]

SS 6.2l L99 300kw & bimodal exhaust.

[highlander_69r]

just been advised - MY16 HSV model, new Clubsport 415kw, with air intakes in bonnet . No power increase for GTS, which means that maybe the GTS will stop being produced by this time next year and replaced by the GTSR????

no surprise there, that's what I have said since day dot, bar maybe a change to some super dooper shadow chrome badge change. HSV are so predictable

[CLUBRED]

SS 6.2l L99 300kw & bimodal exhaust.

Motoring reckon they've seen a ADR doc with 304kw on it.

[jaykay]

Motoring reckon they've seen a ADR doc with 304kw on it.

Yeah apparently for the Caprice....

[RED R8]

I was told 400kw for the clubbie and 80k plusHSV always find a way to alienate previous owners by seriously devaluing their GTS's etc....

[JJW501]

HSV always find a way to alienate previous owners by seriously devaluing their GTS's etc....

Boo hoo!

Maybe they should make each model progressively worse and slower?

It's called progress.

Actually, the progress has been so slow, that most Australian car buyers have already converted to imported models. This should have been out 10 years ago!

JJW

[jaykay]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

[Ausmartin1]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

You ain't the only one, ignoring the masked boot line rear end. The issue is rear roof line for access - ie the lack of head room to climb into the rear seats.
Don't think they are going to sell many as there is tough completion in the FWD market with better practicality.
Interesting times indeed for the Holden Badge with a try of a German sports type sedan with a price to match I bet.
They really are in a rock & hard place, out dated Korean sourcing or European that if not outstanding will not fly in the market place.

[dgp]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

Looks like the VF II will be my last Holden then.

[SASLS1]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

Those spy shots look extremely like a 2016 Chev Malibu me thinks... Roof line, side windows, rear bumper lines, front end, antenna on roof, left hand drive... etc.

See here...

http://www.chevrolet.com/2016-malibu/ (http://www.chevrolet.com/2016-malibu/)

Not more Joshua Dowling BS again!!!...

[Jag530G]

The Malibu and Insignia/Next Commodore are based on the same platform so wouldn't surprise that they are pretty similar design. I think it looks great if it has the Audi A7 side profile. Shame it is FWD and no V8.

Cheers, Matthew

[sjhugh]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

It might look better in a different colour. :kill:

[Goggles]

I wonder what the words in bold, italics mean:

"On Sunday Holden's new Chairman and Managing Director, Mark Bernhard, will address the media in his first public appearance since taking on the role. He will share his vision for the company as well as making an important announcement regarding Holden's future operations and Melbourne workforce."

from:
http://media.gm.com/media/au/en/holden/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/au/en/2015/Sep/0911_Commodore.html

[Smitty]

God I hope not !!!

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2018-holden-commodore-spied-testing-35393?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=35393&utm_campaign=Editorial#.Ve_7IYHXerV

gawd.. with ya there
Fugly as! Holden cannot be serious about that

[jaykay]

Pretty cheap VF GTS new demonstrators now.....

http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/Holden-Special-Vehicles-GTS-2015/AGC-AD-17734065/?Cr=4

[BLACKVE]

god that's a good buy


https://www.facebook.com/holdenaustralia?fref=nf

you get 1/2 a headlight.

Going to wait until late 16 or 17 if still being built, although that GTS is so cheap.........

[Smitty]

.. I received an update last night for the VFII reveal

http://www.holden.com.au/new-vf2-coming-soon?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Commodore_VFII_Teaser&utm_source=Reminder-recipients&utm_content=Hero_Banner_Click

[XLR8 V8]

Annoys me when they want people to sign up with their personal details just to give them a Youtube link :rolleyes:

Here's the direct link so you can skip that rubbish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUB6SbB1SHw

[Goggles]

Annoys me when they want people to sign up with their personal details just to give them a Youtube link :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUB6SbB1SHw

thanks for link. will be able to watch on the xbox one

[Angeldust]

52 mins to go...

[ltdslip]

watching via 'holden' website, no signup

[XLR8 V8]

LS3 = Great, but damn that exhaust note sounds AWFUL! :spew:

[jaykay]

LS3 = Great, but damn that exhaust note sounds AWFUL! :spew:

Aftermarket exhausts here we come !!! Very underwhelming :doh:

[jaykay]

304kW and 570Nm and 0 to 100 in 4.9 Seconds

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-news/2016-holden-commodore-vfii-revealed/

http://www.caradvice.com.au/381381/2016-holden-vf-commodore-series-ii-revealed-vfii-features-new-v8-engine-front-and-rear-design-changes/

[jaykay]

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[jaykay]

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[jaykay]

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[D_BLOCK]

Whats the exhaust enhancer the are talking about ? Is that same crap some euro cars are using via the car speakers simulating an engine growl? . Either way that note sounds horrid

[Number55]

It looks like it induction noise pulled from the intake

[Smashfist]

Either way that note sounds horrid

I've got a theory behind that. What's the bet they've spent all this time on a bimodal catback and still have the shit cast manifolds?

Think I have a VFII at work tomorrow for prelaunch training, will check and report.

[XLR8 V8]

Whats the exhaust enhancer the are talking about ? Is that same crap some euro cars are using via the car speakers simulating an engine growl? . Either way that note sounds horrid

http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2016-Holden-Commodore-VF-Series-II-1.jpg

Looks like just a pipe from the intake plumbed into the cabin

[Goggles]

Cosmetic changes look ok and the addition of the LS3 V8 is a good thing, but I note there doesn't appear to be any interior changes. Wonder why.

[BigAnt]

http://www.holden.com.au/Satellite,qblobcol=urldata,ablobkey=id,ablobtable= MungoBlobs,ablobwhere=1237434992335,assbinary=true ,a.pagespeed.ce.p_V3DXimNW.jpg
Here is the updated taillights for Ute and Wagon.

Ill reserve judgement on the exhaust until I hear it in person.
Looking forward to see what HSV will release.

[macca_779]

http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2016-Holden-Commodore-VF-Series-II-1.jpg

Looks like just a pipe from the intake plumbed into the cabin
All the thousands of dollars we spend on good exhausts. I could of just shoved some Ag pipe through the firewall. Holden is a bloody embarrassment. I'm going to go spit on my car now.

[D_BLOCK]

I've got a theory behind that. What's the bet they've spent all this time on a bimodal catback and still have the shit cast manifolds?

Think I have a VFII at work tomorrow for prelaunch training, will check and report.

Your working out of the Tbar branch right? Tims trying to get me into that red GTS down stairs. Might be the go after seeing the launch of the series 2.

[Smashfist]

Your working out of the Tbar branch right? Tims trying to get me into that red GTS down stairs. Might be the go after seeing the launch of the series 2.

Yeah bud, make sure he doesn't get the best of you, smooth operator old Timmy.

After seeing the S2, I'm happy staying with my S1, I'll slap Brembos on it and cam it later on and I'm good.

[Plenty]

I'm sorry but you lot are turning into a bunch of whiners......

They give you what you want, the LS3 and all you can comment on is an exhaust sound from a video! There is very limited money left in the kitty, i believe they have done exactly what the V8 community want and produced the the best performing Holden EVER! They have also fitted a bi-modal exhaust with two modes. What more does one want from a car produced to satisfy an ever diminishing market? If you're not a fan then spend your money on a hi-po Euro and bearing in mind it'll cost you 3 times the price for the same performance.

What i think is worthy of a whinge is the pathetic launch, looked like it was thrown together in someone's back shed.

[BLACKVE]

I'm sorry but you lot are turning into a bunch of whiners......

They give you what you want, the LS3 and all you can comment on is an exhaust sound from a video! There is very limited money left in the kitty, i believe they have done exactly what the V8 community want and produced the the best performing Holden EVER! They have also fitted a bi-modal exhaust with two modes. What more does one want from a car produced to satisfy an ever diminishing market? If you're not a fan then spend your money on a hi-po Euro and bearing in mind it'll cost you 3 times the price for the same performance.


Yep

$350 option for brembos(must be fronts only) lots will be ticking that option

[D_BLOCK]

Yeah bud, make sure he doesn't get the best of you, smooth operator old Timmy.

After seeing the S2, I'm happy staying with my S1, I'll slap Brembos on it and cam it later on and I'm good.

Smooth is one way to describe him , I know Tim well as we both fight for the same club. Actually you will see and hear my ute tomorrow for its new tow pack , I told Tim to pick the most sober worker to cut the bar.

[BLACKVE]

SS doesn't have bonnet vents, seems the SS got the most upgrades, just tick the brembos option

[VTClubSprtR8]

Shame the ute didn't get the same rear LED tail light treatment as the wagon.

[Smashfist]

Smooth is one way to describe him , I know Tim well as we both fight for the same club. Actually you will see and hear my ute tomorrow for its new tow pack , I told Tim to pick the most sober worker to cut the bar.

Come into the front counter and ask for Dave, I'll sort it out for you bud.

[VTClubSprtR8]

I told Tim to pick the most sober worker to cut the bar.

:lmao: Mmm those cutouts can be tricky for some, just make sure the person who does it don't try and chew it out with their teeth.

[Smashfist]

:lmao: Mmm those cutouts can be tricky for some, just make sure the person who does it don't try and chew it out with their teeth.

You'd be surprised. I bought my VY Clubby used with a towbar and removed it/had the bar plastic welded due to incompetent members of staff at Zupps' poor fitment. It literally looked like they drilled lots of little holes to form the hole and punched it out.

[VTClubSprtR8]

You'd be surprised. I bought my VY Clubby used with a towbar and removed it/had the bar plastic welded due to incompetent members of staff at Zupps' poor fitment. It literally looked like they drilled lots of little holes to form the hole and punched it out.

Yes poor workmanship makes me cringe, I'm not claiming to be perfect but if you F@%& it fix it.

[BLACKVE]

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1509/v8-play-holden-commodore-vf-series-ii-unveiled/

can hear it, final drive ratio change

Helping those acceleration figures are revised final drives, which change from 3.45:1 in the manual to 3.72, and from 2.92:1 to 3.45 in the automatic.

[308hjute]

Red Hot Redline in manual ordered. :dance:

We'll finalise options etc once firm pricing details are available.

[disorganise]

Either way that note sounds horrid

You blokes must be watching it on some tinny little phone - the exhaust sounds great through my TV system.
I'm disappointed the Mazda bum hasn't been fixed and it would have been nice to hear about some more tech, but overall surely they've given what's been asked? More power - tick, More aggressive styling - tick, better brakes - optional but nonetheless tick, more V8 noise - tick, less Camry/Mazda rear - oops. Overall pretty reasonable.

Now the launch itself, on the other hand, blows. Fancy coming out with a new model and not talking about it very much but talk heaps about the forthcoming 24 other models. We're so passionate about this new VF2, we're gonna tell you about all the other cool stuff we have planned. yeah right.

[BLACK 346]

You blokes must be watching it on some tinny little phone - the exhaust sounds great through my TV system.
I'm disappointed the Mazda bum hasn't been fixed and it would have been nice to hear about some more tech, but overall surely they've given what's been asked? More power - tick, More aggressive styling - tick, better brakes - optional but nonetheless tick, more V8 noise - tick, less Camry/Mazda rear - oops. Overall pretty reasonable.

Now the launch itself, on the other hand, blows. Fancy coming out with a new model and not talking about it very much but talk heaps about the forthcoming 24 other models. We're so passionate about this new VF2, we're gonna tell you about all the other cool stuff we have planned. yeah right.

I agree mate, some great upgrades, and things like exhaust are easily fixed (who on here has a stock exhaust). The VF arse end though is another matter and not that easy to rectify unfortunately :(

[jaykay]

Looks like NO L99.........and no interior changes.

4387

[Micks]

That's great No L99, detuned LS3 much nicer! :yup:

[Goggles]

Looks like NO L99.........and no interior changes.

4387

where does the bimodal switch sit, or is a setting in mylink?

[aussiebbq]

It's purely mechanical. Only opens with specific flow.

[DX_]

where does the bimodal switch sit, or is a setting in mylink?

@ 2:05 in the Wheels video you see him toggle the bimodal option in Mylink under Sport Mode Settings. Doesn't appear to be any other settings for it.

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1509/v8-play-holden-commodore-vf-series-ii-unveiled/

[Jag530G]

the enhanced engine note is from the pipe that runs from the intake to the firewall. So even if you upgrade the exhaust you will still benefit from the noise pipe.

[ltdslip]

the enhanced engine note is from the pipe that runs from the intake to the firewall. ........
Got to get me one for the VT!

[dgp]

I think it's bloody great, good on you Holden for listening to the buyers.
I will order mine to replace my current CalaisV when my lease is due at the end of next year.

[jaykay]

And the poll we run came up trumps.....304kW was in the winning range of 26/77 votes

[jaykay]

Looks like the bonnet vents are for show only ?

4388

[RobSS]

Well , Ive been waiting for the LS3.
Was going to order a Redline ute.
Might go for an SS ute with Brembos and save 10K for mods
Thanks Holden for the upgrade

[Smitty]

Looks like NO L99.........and no interior changes.




.. and no V8 manual wagons.
the comment about listening to customers is bullshit

[BLACK 346]

Looks like the bonnet vents are for show only ?

4388

Yes, I don't understand why you would want bits of crappy plastic sitting on your bonnet perishing in the harsh Aussie sun, unless they actually served a purpose.

[disorganise]

Wait, what? Plastic? I assumed they're metal. If they are plastic then I'm worried. I don't want plastic on my Hsv

[dgp]

.. and no V8 manual wagons.
the comment about listening to customers is bullshit

You can't please everybody all of the time.

I would have liked to have seen 6M in wagon and CalaisV but will be happy with an SSVR.

My ultimate would be a CalaisV 6M with all the Redline gear and sport body kit. Holden Senator anyone?

[aussiebbq]

Yes, I don't understand why you would want bits of crappy plastic sitting on your bonnet perishing in the harsh Aussie sun, unless they actually served a purpose.

No different to the non functional side vents really.

[308hjute]

The blurb on the VF II page says:


Hood Vents
Hood vents on V8 sport models allow hot air to exit the engine bay and enhance the dramatic appearance of Commodore VFII.

[SCiFiRE]

Yes, I don't understand why you would want bits of crappy plastic sitting on your bonnet perishing in the harsh Aussie sun, unless they actually served a purpose.

Not sure what the go is with the photo, but in the presentation they did say the hood vents, and the new vents on the facia are both functional.

[Tre-Cool]

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1509/v8-play-holden-commodore-vf-series-ii-unveiled/

can hear it, final drive ratio change

Helping those acceleration figures are revised final drives, which change from 3.45:1 in the manual to 3.72, and from 2.92:1 to 3.45 in the automatic.

i'd change the 3.45 in the auto to a 3.27 if i buy one. been there done that.

[Hos]

Now to wait and see what HSV puts up to keep a step ahead.

[jaykay]

Now to wait and see what HSV puts up to keep a step ahead.

I believe that will be Tuesday of next week .... 22/9

[Vulture]

LSA Senator...Mmmm.

[jaykay]

LSA Senator...Mmmm.

Yeah that would be nice....the new / demo Series 1 GTS's are getting cheap now....

[BLACKVE]

i'd change the 3.45 in the auto to a 3.27 if i buy one. been there done that.

Never thought about the change in our auto SS, but the 3.7 in a manual is a great mod

[CALDIR]

LSA Senator...Mmmm.

I agree with this comment.

On another note does anyone know if the all the series 2 VF's are going to get the new front bumper bar? I was told off a friend that the Evoke will remain the same, just wandering if the SV6 will remain as well?

Regards,

GTSRVF

[jaykay]

The final lap: Holden Commodore

2015 Holden Commodore SS-V Redline

Price: $56,190
Engine: 6.2-litre V8
Power: 304kW and 570Nm
Transmission: Six-speed manual, six-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: 4.9 seconds

1978 Holden Commodore SL/E

Price: $11,315
Engine: 5.0-litre V8
Power: 114kW and 354Nm
Transmission: Four-speed manual, three-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: 9 seconds

[Goggles]

The final lap: Holden Commodore

2015 Holden Commodore SS-V Redline

Price: $56,190
Engine: 6.2-litre V8
Power: 304kW and 570Nm
Transmission: Six-speed manual, six-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: 4.9 seconds

1978 Holden Commodore SL/E

Price: $11,315
Engine: 5.0-litre V8
Power: 114kW and 354Nm
Transmission: Four-speed manual, three-speed automatic
0 to 100km/h: 9 seconds

according to the RBA Inflation Calculator (http://www.rba.gov.au/calculator/annualDecimal.html), the 2014 equivalent price of the VB is $54,742.92. not much difference!

[SCiFiRE]

I agree with this comment.

On another note does anyone know if the all the series 2 VF's are going to get the new front bumper bar? I was told off a friend that the Evoke will remain the same, just wandering if the SV6 will remain as well?

Regards,

GTSRVF

Only the sports models get an updated facia. SV6/SS/SSV/Redline.
Evoke & Calais facias remain the same.
Calais/CalaisV get new badging on the boot.
CalaisV/SSV/Redline Sedans also get new taillamps.
All the wagons also get new taillamps.