Ford Mustang V8 scores ‘poor’ 2-star safety rating

[jaykay]

Not good...

https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1701/ford-mustang-v8-scores-poor-2-star-safety-rating

[Wonky]

Ouch! Red R8 better take it easy!! :p

[SASLS1]

Think of the positive... it's 1 more star than the "1 Star" Jumbuck death wish ute...Hahaha....

Everytime I see a Jumbuck on the street which isn't very often which is good... its the first thing that pops into my head... Your Seriously driving a "1 Star Car"........ Are You kidding Me!!!.....

[Maccas]

Hunts Crowds, Hunts Passengers and Hunts the Driver, no wonder they say Mustangs are hard to tame hahahahhaa

Honestly though how is this allowed to be sold in Australia in this day and age, i remember how much hell Holden and Ford were given to get the Commodore and Falcon up to 5 stars, lucky we are get rid of them as their safer nicer build more suited to family duties yet still a ball tearer hahaha

[Ausmartin1]

Same old Ford NA at it again I see with sub standard work to achieve 2 stars and a door opening in a side pole test.
Yes the extra weight of the V8 did it ;-)

Considering from the front cab to the rear the underpinnings are rear wheel drive taxi you think Ford would have got it right ?
But then again as the rear end is NO sports car and only good for straight line power down - even that is problematic at many Coffee & Cars events in the USA
feature majority crashed Mustangs after.
One would think they would have excellent crash protection from the side considering the crap handling under WOT.

Much better sports cars to buy that are safe and handle WOT better.
Still should be plenty of used damaged ones soon in the wreckers unless the owners drive them like Ms Daisy.

[Souljah]

I'd still buy one before the new Commodore though.

[csv rulz]

Amazing to think Chinese cars are probably getting better ancap scores then the new mustang. It should be that a car has to achieve 4 stars minimum before it can be sold in australia as a new car.

[SASLS1]

Amazing to think Chinese cars are probably getting better ancap scores then the new mustang. It should be that a car has to achieve 4 stars minimum before it can be sold in australia as a new car.


This explains why... The good old "loop hole" to Safety WTF!!!...

It is Totally Ridiculous, that such a "Major Manufacturer" new car fails so.... Dismally.........


http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t540/ss364/Mustang%202%20stars_zpshzmiqclu.jpg

[Devastated]

Paid the $2k deposit last February, my Mustang landed in Melbourne yesterday and the 2 star rating story landed last night. Very angry with Ford, I've got kids who would go in the back which is a death trap according to NCAP. Can't see how I can hand $68k over for a 2 star car. Spewing

[BLACK 346]

Paid the $2k deposit last February, my Mustang landed in Melbourne yesterday and the 2 star rating story landed last night. Very angry with Ford, I've got kids who would go in the back which is a death trap according to NCAP. Can't see how I can hand $68k over for a 2 star car. Spewing

I feel really sorry for you mate, the majority of these cars I see getting around have 60 plus year old men driving them with at most an aging partner in the passenger seat.
Having your kids in the back of one of these must now be a major concern :(

[Devastated]

Thanks buddy, gone from totally amped to totally bummed. It'll be at the dealership next week, had it booked in for a catback exhaust, progressive lowering springs and cold flow air intake. If I cancel the car goes back to Ford Australia and then is handed ton the next person in line for a magnetic grey mustang. Sad Australia day, was looking forward to taking it to Sandown.

[amckiwi]

Small consolation but better to find out before it became a second hand car

[Micks]

I'm sure there will be plenty of Blue men wanting to buy them, have seen shitloads of them around my area since xmas. Hope one doesn't disintegrate in front of me! :lmao:

[mjrandom]

Is there a Nurburgring time for the version we get or haven't they been able to do a whole lap?

[VTSSDUDE]

Need to think though that the Mustang was tested under the recently revised ANCAP safety regulations, and tests. (Apparently the bar has been risen dramatically.)
Be interesting to see what a VF Commodore or a FG Falcon would get if they were to retest them under the same regulations.
What also got a star removed from the Mustangs is that they don't have the Lane Assist or Emergency Braking Assist in them, and no seatbelt reminders for the back seat seatbelts.
From the report I was reading with ANCAP with the Mustangs was rear occupants would experience some whiplash, however front driver, and passenger were tested as good.
Also, in the FG Falcon report, there didn't appear to be any testing on child occupant crash tests, where in the Mustang there was.

I would still go, and talk to the Ford Dealership, and see what they have to say about it.

[mac06]

While it's true that the recently revised ANCAP safety regulations have risen dramatically (a lot of vehicles if retested would no longer achieve 5 stars), there is more to it as noted in the article. Structural and passive safety features are also poor.


“This isn’t a score because it’s missing rear seatbelt reminders,” said Goodwin. “Fundamentally it also hasn’t performed well structurally. There is serious risk of head, leg and chest injuries for rear passengers. There was also insufficient inflation of both driver and passenger airbags in frontal offset test, which allowed the driver’s head to contact the steering wheel and the passenger’s head to contact the dashboard. The driver’s door opened in the pole test and the whiplash protection for rear-end collisions was only rated as marginal.”

[crisis]

Talking to a mate yesterday who knows a couple of guys with V8 Mustangs and his words "they hate them".
Apparently continually taking them back to the dealer for various problems. And people condemn Holden's for quality issues...

[SASLS1]

Talking to a mate yesterday who knows a couple of guys with V8 Mustangs and his words "they hate them".
Apparently continually taking them back to the dealer for various problems. And people condemn Holden's for quality issues...

Any new car, there are always Windger's, windging about every little minor/finer detail... Storm in a Tea Cup Material...

Sure, there are more major issues from time to time, but most of the time, people are just Windging for the sake of Windging...



Another Thing...

Its all a technicality... if the driver/passengers airbags had inflated a few milliseconds earlier, there would of been no issue with the heads contacting the wheel/dash (from late inflating airbags), and it would of

received more Stars...

I'm sure Ford can Tweak this, but won't want to pay for another brand new car to get retested again....

[johnfhall]

Yeah, all well and good, but it's got to be said, I wouldn't be seen dead in one of them...

[duke5700]

The least Ford could do was make airbags that work.. Recall or deal with the lawsuits? I bet the number crunchers are working it out already.





Another Thing...

Its all a technicality... if the driver/passengers airbags had inflated a few milliseconds earlier, there would of been no issue with the heads contacting the wheel/dash (from late inflating airbags), and it would of

received more Stars...

I'm sure Ford can Tweak this, but won't want to pay for another brand new car to get retested again....

[SASLS1]

Yeah, all well and good, but it's got to be said, I wouldn't be seen dead in one of them...


There a thousands of people driving around happily in 60's / 70's Classic American / Aussie muscle cars, which if crash tested at "Todays" Offset Frontal Crash Standards, would totally fail and get Stuff All Stars...

Does this mean you won't be seen dead in one, and not buy one...

I don't think So.....Its all relative....

[johnfhall]

There a thousands of people driving around happily in 60's / 70's Classic American / Aussie muscle cars, which if crash tested at "Todays" Offset Frontal Crash Standards, would totally fail and get Stuff All Stars...

Does this mean you won't be seen dead in one, and not buy one...

I don't think So.....Its all relative....

Probably a poor attempt at humour ...dead in one... Get my drift.

As for the oldies, I loved 'em then, but wouldn't drive one at my age on these roads with so many shite idiots about...

John

[VYR8HSV]

A good video by John Cadogan on the safety of the Mustang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vupJqnNyaE

[zorro]

The least Ford could do was make airbags that work.. Recall or deal with the lawsuits? I bet the number crunchers are working it out already.

Heh one of the many great moments from the movie


Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

In all seriousness Ford will issue a mid series update, fix the things, get their stars from NCAP and go back to selling a shitload of them and no one will think anything of it.

Let's be frank here, how many of us query safety when going to buy an emotional purchase?

[C4B]

Let's be frank here, how many of us query safety when going to buy an emotional purchase?

It's all relative. If I was buying a classic car there is no expectation of safety. But if I'm spending $60k on a brand new vehicle 2 stars is a joke!

It's no different with Hotels. If I stay in the country in a motor inn and pay $120 a night my expectations are wildly different than if I stay in a $500 a night 5 star hotel in Sydney.

[VTSSDUDE]

Probably like there have been a few complaints from people buying the V8 Mustangs, and they are complaining about the fuel economy.
V8's and fuel economy, who would of thought that? :P

[duke5700]

I wasn't sure anyone would suss it..


Heh one of the many great moments from the movie

[zorro]

It's all relative. If I was buying a classic car there is no expectation of safety. But if I'm spending $60k on a brand new vehicle 2 stars is a joke!

It's no different with Hotels. If I stay in the country in a motor inn and pay $120 a night my expectations are wildly different than if I stay in a $500 a night 5 star hotel in Sydney.

Would the opinion change if you knew;

1. Ferrari never offer a car for ncap testing?
2. Neither have Mercedes Benz.

Both bought for totally different reasons, one known as the best sports cars and one safest luxury.

Your expectation that it should be rated is not really applicable.

Other side of coin is to be fair ncaps criteria is always changing. A vehicle tested 10yrs ago may not pass today.