Current GTS-R (not W1) pricing WTF!

[CLUBRED]

Wasn't expecting to see the current crazy asking prices for these so soon, are they selling or opportunists? the world has gone mad..

[SASLS1]

Their the usual Dreamers IMO...

One lemmings puts a crazy price out there, then all the other lemmings follow suit with their Never Never land prices, making them all feel good, only to find the phone never rings and all they can hear is crickets.

Just check the adds over the next few weeks, and if most / all the same cars are still there asking their insanity prices still, it's a clear indicator their asking too much.

[jaykay]

7 GTSR's on Carsales at present from $157k to $200k.....

5 GTSR W1's on Carsales at present from $240k to $300k :doh:

[Wonky]

I know the person selling the bronze GTSR for $157K is - nice tidy profit for her but aiming to buy a C8.

[Pickles]

We own a GTSR, didn't order/buy one upon their release, they sort of grew on me, "The last of the last" I thought, so we bought one, white auto, with sunroof, spare & cover.
Never thought about its value when we bought it, but when the Virus hit I thought its value would hit the floor. But it hasn't, but it's not only GTSRs, it's all sorts of HSVs, & many other cars. I can't understand it in the current economic environment, but for sure the value of Aussie V8s seems to be pretty good. Someone paid $335K for a VS GTSR, HSV Coupes are rocketing up, and if ya can find a Coupe 4 or a W427 ya'll be very lucky. Duttons are a major player, if you check out their site, you'll see they've got heaps of HSVs, they've sold around 10 GTSRs, and some of the private sale GTSRs listed on Carsales have been bought by Duttons.
Pickles.

[CLUBRED]

I'm just salty because I didn't want to take the initial depreciation hit and waited too long - I just thought they'd dip more than they did. But yeah, you're right Pickles its not just the GTSR, I just singled that one out because it was the model I wanted, I knocked back a perfect Gen-F2 GTS at a great price :( , some are +$30k from when that was offered (I'm just not convinced they're selling though).

[CLUBRED]

I know the person selling the bronze GTSR for $157K is - nice tidy profit for her but aiming to buy a C8.

Would love to know what the dealer would offer as trade.

[Smitty]

We own a GTSR, didn't order/buy one upon their release, they sort of grew on me, "The last of the last" I thought, so we bought one, white auto, with sunroof, spare & cover.
Never thought about its value when we bought it, but when the Virus hit I thought its value would hit the floor. But it hasn't, but it's not only GTSRs, it's all sorts of HSVs, & many other cars. I can't understand it in the current economic environment, but for sure the value of Aussie V8s seems to be pretty good. Someone paid $335K for a VS GTSR, HSV Coupes are rocketing up, and if ya can find a Coupe 4 or a W427 ya'll be very lucky. Duttons are a major player, if you check out their site, you'll see they've got heaps of HSVs, they've sold around 10 GTSRs, and some of the private sale GTSRs listed on Carsales have been bought by Duttons.
Pickles.

.. absolutely Martin!

It appears any and all HSVs are seeing lots of interest... price wise
(in the middle of a pandemic too ...when many are without jobs)

[Red CV8 R]

Performance Holden and HSVs have been seemingly going nuts in this pandemic. My mate has a set of immaculate RX7s and these have been getting crazy offers apparently. Skylines, S chassis Nissan, EVOs etc are all crazy too. Basically anything that your 30-50 yr old performance car lovers grew up with is asking big dollars. I wonder if its because a lot of people are having to stay at home or are just driving around a lot and cant enjoy as many outings as they used to. Especially with kids that they don't want to risk. So, they are spending up on cars instead. Full pockets and more job security than younger people, older people with a solid dose of nostalgia (inc no more Holden and Aussie Fords) and seeing what happened to previous classic car values, its supercharging the market.

[BLACK 346]

The Toyota dealership near me seems to have a couple of new V8 Holden's or Ford's on the lot every week. The longest one has sat there is a E2 Clubby, that lasted about 3 weeks at nearly 40k. Anything else has not lasted the week. They are either selling or getting moved around to different dealerships. Must be great for the Toyota used car manager, he doesn't have to drive home in a Camry or Corolla each night.

[SASLS1]

We own a GTSR, didn't order/buy one upon their release, they sort of grew on me, "The last of the last" I thought, so we bought one, white auto, with sunroof, spare & cover.
Never thought about its value when we bought it, but when the Virus hit I thought its value would hit the floor. But it hasn't, but it's not only GTSRs, it's all sorts of HSVs, & many other cars. I can't understand it in the current economic environment, but for sure the value of Aussie V8s seems to be pretty good. Someone paid $335K for a VS GTSR, HSV Coupes are rocketing up, and if ya can find a Coupe 4 or a W427 ya'll be very lucky. Duttons are a major player, if you check out their site, you'll see they've got heaps of HSVs, they've sold around 10 GTSRs, and some of the private sale GTSRs listed on Carsales have been bought by Duttons.
Pickles.


Here's one that sold just over 9 weeks ago for $117,593 with only 1140kms on the clock...

Its a far cry from the Carsales current asking prices of $157k to $200k IMO...


Quote from link below.

Link (https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/strong-prices-for-hot-holden-v8s)

"
3 August 2020

Another low-kilometre modern classic, a 2017 HSV GTSR in Spitfire Green, fought off depreciation selling for $117,593, a number very similar to its as-new price.

Showing only 1140km on the clock, the car came with receipts for the only two tanks of fuel it has ever had.

https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2020/08/03/Misc/HSV-GTSR.jpg"

[BLACK 346]

Here's one that sold just over 9 weeks ago for $117,593 with only 1140kms on the clock...

Its a far cry from the Carsales current asking prices of $157k to $200k IMO...


Quote from link below.

Link (https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/strong-prices-for-hot-holden-v8s)

"
3 August 2020

Another low-kilometre modern classic, a 2017 HSV GTSR in Spitfire Green, fought off depreciation selling for $117,593, a number very similar to its as-new price.

Showing only 1140km on the clock, the car came with receipts for the only two tanks of fuel it has ever had.

https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2020/08/03/Misc/HSV-GTSR.jpg"

Colour aside, that was probably a pretty good buy at that price I reckon.

[BLACK 346]

Colour aside, that was probably a pretty good buy at that price I reckon.

Not long before City Holden Hillcrest folded, they had 2 x Gen F Clubbies and an SSV Redline Motor Sport Edition in stock all in that colour. Not sure where they ended up.

[SASLS1]

Colour aside, that was probably a pretty good buy at that price I reckon.

Yes $39407 cheaper and 8310kms less... than the cheapest one on carsales asking $157K with 9450kms on the clock, was in deed a good buy... :)

[Pickles]

Colour aside, that was probably a pretty good buy at that price I reckon.

But ya know what, whilst our is Heron (white), I actually don't mind that color, especially with the black bits of trim etc, and the 20" rims that are on the GTSR.
But you wouldn't want to be somewhere you shouldn't be would you...easily recognizable!!
Pickles.

[Pickles]

.. absolutely Martin!

It appears any and all HSVs are seeing lots of interest... price wise
(in the middle of a pandemic too ...when many are without jobs)

So my friend, will you be hanging on to your wagon, now that you can't upgrade to a new one any more?
Martin.

[BLACK 346]

But ya know what, whilst our is Heron (white), I actually don't mind that color, especially with the black bits of trim etc, and the 20" rims that are on the GTSR.
But you wouldn't want to be somewhere you shouldn't be would you...easily recognizable!!
Pickles.

Whilst not a huge hero colour person Pickles, I actually reckon Spitfire doesn't look bad at all on the VF's :)

[CLUBRED]

Jesus - https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2017-holden-special-vehicles-clubsport-r8-tourer-lsa-auto-my17/OAG-AD-19205073/?Cr=0

Who are these Dutton clowns...

[Pickles]

Jesus - https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2017-holden-special-vehicles-clubsport-r8-tourer-lsa-auto-my17/OAG-AD-19205073/?Cr=0

Who are these Dutton clowns...

They are a large used car dealer which, in the past, has specialized in high end Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo etc, but they seem to have found a liking for HSV & other V8 Holdens, and they've certainly bought & sold a few.
Pickles.

[Smitty]

So my friend, will you be hanging on to your wagon, now that you can't upgrade to a new one any more?
Martin.

last HSV V8 manual wagon made? (or Holden made wagon body. ... or for that matter, probably the last V8 manual station wagon in the world?)

As It type this.. yes, it is a keeper. What is out there to replace it?
Yes, there are high performance wagons.. but no manuals or all way about $100 large (or some $200k+)

The R8 is comfy&nice to drive, just over 60,000 in 5+ years. I service it myself (being a fussy fastidious old fart)
and enjoy it... even when I was commuting all over Melbourne in peak hours traffic to our work sites
(not with COVID though, 2 set of lights in an 8 minute commute once a week at best with work from home)

I have chucked GENFII rear lamps on it for an instant upgrade ;)

https://images2.imgbox.com/de/8e/jql1QCgY_o.jpg

so yep, its a keeper ....

[white lie]

The entire car market has gone crazy thru the pandemic. I sold two cars last month, one took a 4 hours, the other 2.

The used car dealers can't keep stock. Picked up an A45 for the wife from a dealer that usually has over 2000 cars in stock, they have had 600-800 for the past 4-6 months, they are just turning them over.
I have a good friend that purchases for a VW dealer, his quota is usually around 10 cars/month to maintain stock levels, lately it has been 30-40. They're gone within a week of hitting the lot.

HSV/Commodore prices are supply and demand. Can't get them any more and supply is drying up. I think Duttons have driven the prices up a lot but supply in general is well down. 328 HSV's for sale on Carsales, it wasn't that long ago when it was constantly above 2000.

[Pickles]

last HSV V8 manual wagon made? (or Holden made wagon body. ... or for that matter, probably the last V8 manual station wagon in the world?)

As It type this.. yes, it is a keeper. What is out there to replace it?
Yes, there are high performance wagons.. but no manuals or all way about $100 large (or some $200k+)

The R8 is comfy&nice to drive, just over 60,000 in 5+ years. I service it myself (being a fussy fastidious old fart)
and enjoy it... even when I was commuting all over Melbourne in peak hours traffic to our work sites
(not with COVID though, 2 set of lights in an 8 minute commute once a week at best with work from home)

I have chucked GENFII rear lamps on it for an instant upgrade ;)

https://images2.imgbox.com/de/8e/jql1QCgY_o.jpg

so yep, its a keeper ....

Ah yes, I thought that might be the case, and with the sort of mileage you're doing, it's gonna last for a while!
Martin.

[Pickles]

The entire car market has gone crazy thru the pandemic. I sold two cars last month, one took a 4 hours, the other 2.

The used car dealers can't keep stock. Picked up an A45 for the wife from a dealer that usually has over 2000 cars in stock, they have had 600-800 for the past 4-6 months, they are just turning them over.
I have a good friend that purchases for a VW dealer, his quota is usually around 10 cars/month to maintain stock levels, lately it has been 30-40. They're gone within a week of hitting the lot.

HSV/Commodore prices are supply and demand. Can't get them any more and supply is drying up. I think Duttons have driven the prices up a lot but supply in general is well down. 328 HSV's for sale on Carsales, it wasn't that long ago when it was constantly above 2000.
Agree, but I still can't believe how sales are going & pricing being achieved, with so many people out of work, business's going bust etc.
Being retired, We certainly have to watch our dollars, & there's no way We'd be buying a GTSR or anything like it in this climate, but looking at people's comments on forums etc, there's still many out there who's spending is the same as ever,.....and in the current climate I guess that's gotta be a good thing.
Pickles.

[jaykay]

Just have a look at the Auction sales prices too..I've been watching Grays Online auctions and they have been fetching huge $$$$ for cars...

[Micks]

Agree noone is buying new atm, hence the used car market is picking up 20% more than previous.

[Xjas]

I too have been watching the used car market and frankly don't understand where the demand is coming from.
Don't know if its related but I have noticed a lot more high end cars being driven about the place lately, especially Ferraris and Porsches, saw a cool Porsche cruising around our suburb the other day, missus asked how much it'd be worth, I said "I don't know but Porsche don't put big wings and centre lock wheels on the cheap ones!" Lol.

[Red CV8 R]

I too have been watching the used car market and frankly don't understand where the demand is coming from.
Don't know if its related but I have noticed a lot more high end cars being driven about the place lately, especially Ferraris and Porsches, saw a cool Porsche cruising around our suburb the other day, missus asked how much it'd be worth, I said "I don't know but Porsche don't put big wings and centre lock wheels on the cheap ones!" Lol.

If it was a new GT3 RS, a mate of mine has one and I think he paid close to a cool half mil for it after options and tax.

[Angeldust]

wow, just looked at the used HSV prices (I haven't looked for about 4-5 years) and they're insane. Cheapest HSV's are about 20K (not including the few Astra's) with VY-VZ's in the 30K+ range. Not so long ago these were half that. ie you could buy a VT-VX in the 10K bracket, with a VY around the 15K mark... insane

I still have my VZ HRT ed.

Does anyone know what happened to the HSV forum? I can't bring up any links on google search...

[whitels1ss]

I think HSV forum is gone.

Yeah, I know the VT-VZ range is starting to go up now,

I have seen a couple selling for big money, I guess it is signs of what is to come. :yup:


Check out on Carsales etc for prices of VN SS Commodores, rare to see anything in decent, tidy condition for under $30,000,

VK's and VL's are much higher, even the old Calais are going crazy.

I think it is to be expected that these will only head in the same direction as time goes bye.

[Smitty]

I think HSV forum is gone.................

yes, I believe so.

Russell (name?) packed up and stopped paying the server fee... goodbye forum

Pity really... Pickles was there too

Martin, what do you think?

[white lie]

yes, I believe so.

Russell (name?) packed up and stopped paying the server fee... goodbye forum

Pity really... Pickles was there too

Martin, what do you think?Ron...but essentially that's what happened. He moved to the states years ago, never really took much care of it. Kirk did offer to take it over but it never eventuated. Shame really, there was a LOT of good info on there

[jc_sv8]

It’s all Holden’s now.

I drove past Melville Holden and saw a black VF so I pulled in for a look.
SSV good nick, manual, 35K kms, $61,990 WTF!...

[Pickles]

yes, I believe so.

Russell (name?) packed up and stopped paying the server fee... goodbye forum

Pity really... Pickles was there too

Martin, what do you think?

Yes, definitely gone,...but I never saw any prior info that it was closing.

[Smitty]

.........but I never saw any prior info that it was closing.

same here
there one day.. gone the next! :werd:

[white lie]

It’s all Holden’s now.

I drove past Melville Holden and saw a black VF so I pulled in for a look.
SSV good nick, manual, 35K kms, $61,990 WTF!...Yep, was going to get a VF II Redline wagon as a daily drive but for what they're asking, I can essentially get something brand new with a lot more tech...hard to justify the only pro for it being the V8.

[CLUBRED]

How can a business depreciate an asset that probably "worth" more than they paid for it?

[Tre-Cool]

I don't understand the increase in value of these cars, but I'm certainly thinking of taking advantage of it & selling at least 1 car off. I'll never sell my vy ss ute i got new, but my ve ss ute, if someone offers me what i want for it as is (900 whp). it's gone.

Personally i think spending anywhere close to 100k you've got to be a bit a special to be buying a ve/vf hsv when you can do what i just did and pick up a C6 Z06 Corvette with the glorious LS7, 1450kg, wide body, big brakes all out just sexy looking car.