Worlds Fastest 1 Tonner! Plan B Does It Again!! [Archive]

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 08:47 AM

Raceweight of the car was 4190lb with driver and fuel. Power was nothing special. Only mod was a Mafless Tune. Done on street tyres too.

We did however use Justice to cunningly recalibrate the rear springs. Forcing more than two drinks into him the night before ensured that the entire next day, whenever the tonner wasnt racing, he was face down spreadeagled on the tray, near passed out. The beneficial effect of this was his ample girth collapsing the load bearer in the main spring, and helping weight transfer.

Justice R8

07-12-2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
Raceweight of the car was 4190lb with driver and fuel. Power was nothing special. Only mod was a Mafless Tune. Done on street tyres too.

We did however use Justice to cunningly recalibrate the rear springs. Forcing more than two drinks into him the night before ensured that the entire next day, whenever the tonner wasnt racing, he was face down spreadeagled on the tray, near passed out. The beneficial effect of this was his ample girth collapsing the load bearer in the main spring, and helping weight transfer.

Is that Street Tuna or Street Pussy??

We were told before we came to Adelaide that a short, not very attractive man was going to drink us all under the table. Well it just didnt happen. The handbrake was pulled early, the mufless tune must of had a restriction and couldnt contain the volume of alcohol. We went to bed early at 3.30am as ther was nobody left to drink with.

I must say though I have found the town that contains the book of excuses on why somebody cant drink.
1. I have to race tommorrow
2. But your drinking Jim Beam
3. We're just pacing ourselves
4. Where's my Vanilla diet coke

And by the way who drank the Orange Juice ?

Thanks for a great weekend guys. Thanks to Meat for the beers at the workshop. Mrs Tuan deserves an award for putting up with him.

Comment of the weekend has to go to Daryl. We were to have dinner at a lovely hotel but the restaraunt was full. Tuna being the man of Adelaide was quickly recognised by the staff and after signing a couple of autographs they arranged the boardroom for us to have a private dinner, as they did not want Tuna to be harrassed by the Papparazzi whilst eating.
Girl walks in the boardroomroom, Daryl says, so your the 24yo virgin!
He has got such a way with words.

Thanks for Dinner Tuna

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 09:22 AM

http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/justice.jpg

Now thats what I call raceweight!

Justice R8

07-12-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/justice.jpg

Now thats what I call raceweight!

I just dont understand why they wouldnt let me race that thing. Dont you just love the new doughboy performance helmet I had on. Lightweight edition. I think I could have done a great time as I was running on alcohol even though it was that weak VB stuff. Tell meat next time he invites us to drink and talk shit we would like a quality beer!!

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Justice R8
ITell meat next time he invites us to drink and talk shit we would like a quality beer!!

He only wants to know who nicked his orange lighter......

Black Betty

07-12-2003, 02:33 PM

Well done you broke into the 12's a very good result, good enough to go home :cool: . How many tries did it take you to break into the 12's a lot i was there from about 1 and you and Blown cv8 had so many goes in such a short time. What time did you get when you first went out? :thumbsup:

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 02:37 PM

Runs went like this, with ST indicating my times and PB Plan Bs

ST - 13.21
ST - 13.11
ST - 13.10
ST - 13.05
PB - 13.38 (slowest time for the day thanks B!)
PB - 13.32
PB - 13.04
PB - 13.09
PB - 13.02
ST - 13.04
PB - 13.01
PB - 12.99
PB - 12.93
PB - 12.89

He reckons there was an easy 12.7 in it...but for a first trip to the track, 12s will do nicely thanks.

F6Mauz

07-12-2003, 02:57 PM

What power have you rung out of it?

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 03:17 PM

Just under 220kw at the wheels

Martin_D

07-12-2003, 04:44 PM

A pic of B in action, pedalling the mafless work truck
http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/tonpic2.jpg

HRT Stroker

07-12-2003, 05:08 PM

Can ya post us the dyno graph for your final mafless tune Tuna??

What ratio diff is in the thing?

Thats amazing stuff!!! The old school wheels look good too....:cool:

KeenGolfer

07-12-2003, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by HRT Stroker
Can ya post us the dyno graph for your final mafless tune Tuna??

What ratio diff is in the thing?

Thats amazing stuff!!! The old school wheels look good too....:cool:

ST said it's stock apart from the mafless tune, so it must be the standard 3.07 which makes it a great effort to crack a 12.

Ghosn

07-12-2003, 09:51 PM

ST and PB r classics is all I can say :thumbsup:

Redline

07-12-2003, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Ghosn
ST and PB r classics is all I can say :thumbsup: You have no idea how true that is :lol:

VY sv8 CLUBBY

10-12-2003, 02:24 PM

Well done boys.
I would love to get those sorts of times out of the SV8 A4. I will just have to keep saving for the tune.
:girl:
Sandra

ROGUE

10-12-2003, 04:11 PM

i'm getting posted to adelaid in march next year... might have to go and pay the fishy man a visit with some bling bling :bounce:

VY sv8 CLUBBY

10-12-2003, 04:33 PM

Street Tyres?
Just curious what were they please?
Must have hooked up o.k. to run the times?
What were the 60ft's?

:girl:
Sandra

Plan B

10-12-2003, 04:50 PM

ET Streets (DOT Approved). Little tiny profile ones on a 15” rim. They helped with the final ratio. Also these cars with only a few tweaks, hook pretty well on the strip because the wheels remain parallel to each other gotta keep the tonner suspension soft too, just like the old ones. ;)

Good onya for asking a technical question by the way. Not much of that around lately.

:cheers:

http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/tonpic2.jpg

HRT Stroker

10-12-2003, 04:55 PM

No dyno graph then ST??

That's not like you......

Speedy Gonzales

10-12-2003, 05:20 PM

Awesome times, so low 12s possible with bolt ons :cool:

VY sv8 CLUBBY

10-12-2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
ET Streets (DOT Approved). Little tiny profile ones on a 15” rim. They helped with the final ratio. Also these cars with only a few tweaks, hook pretty well on the strip because the wheels remain parallel to each other gotta keep the tonner suspension soft too, just like the old ones. ;)

Come on Plan B - more info please. Just cause I am a girl doesn't mean you can't tell me! Or is it a secret?:hide: :p I could even run the same wheels as the ute, we have those on our other commodore (if that makes it go faster!):D

On a serious note, we were considering what type of tyres to run on the SV8, looking to keep it stock for now, tune and tyres - the factory ones don't hook up so good.

Because we live in Qld, we were thinking of getting Power Torque to do the tune. But with that done, I think traction will be a problem.

Keep on having fun

:girl:
Sandra

Plan B

10-12-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by VY sv8 CLUBBY
Come on Plan B - more info please. Just cause I am a girl doesn't mean you can't tell me! Or is it a secret?:hide: :p :girl:
Sandra

No secrets here Sandra.

You first asked about the tyres. I answered that. I’m not sure what your chasing here with the next question? A secret perhaps?

Ok! I’ll let you in on one little fairy tail secret I learnt.

Last fortnight, deep in the dark LS1 PCM Murray Tablelands, Tuna and a few mates went looking for the Holy Grail of all tunes. The almighty “G Sharp Major”. They’ve dreamt about it in their sleep and it was also known to wake them up at night. Then in one simple evening all of a sudden…. BAM!!! There it was, half of it was sitting on one side and the other half was waiting to be connected. That’s how the storey goes. It apparently works though, because it all came together! Then they all slept very happily after.

Hex? Na! Tuning? Nah! This is nuts and bolts stuff, it really happened.

Criso

10-12-2003, 08:19 PM

Hey Pete i am going to buy you a hanky for Xmas so you can wipe your mouth :lol: :lol: Ha Ha
Cheers Criso

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
ET Streets (DOT Approved).
Good onya for asking a technical question by the way. Not much of that around lately.
Ok here's some...

ET streets may be DOT labeled, but they are not intended, or legal for highway use. They are basically full drag slicks with slight grooves that cant disperse water and arent steel belted, and dont comply with current ADR's. They are not street tyres.

Yeah you can drive em on the street in the dry, if you dont push it round corners, but it's illegal and dangerous.

Quoted from Hoosier & M/T website...

NOTE: D.O.T. Labeled Hoosier Racing Tires meet Department of Transportation requirements for marking and performance only and are NOT INTENDED FOR HIGHWAY USE. It is unsafe to operate any Hoosier Racing Tire including DOT tires on public roads. The prohibited use of Hoosier Racing Tires on public roadways may result in loss of traction, unexpected loss of vehicle control, or sudden loss of tire pressure, resulting in a vehicle crash and possible injury or death.

WARNING: ET Street tires have passed D.O.T. requirements but have reduced tread depth and compounds designed for racing. Due to the reduced tread depth these tires should be used on dry pavement only and are not suitable for normal highway use!
Acceptable practice for rim width is tread width plus or minus 1 inch. All dimensions @ 10 psi cold on measuring rim.

http://www.hoosiertire.com/drtire.htm

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/strip.html

Only steel belted DOT tyres like BFG's comp/ta's are legal for street use on late model stuff.

Plan B

10-12-2003, 08:50 PM

r8ls1, That wasn't them.

criso, R,U trying to cut my grass? :D

SLE355

10-12-2003, 08:52 PM

Hear we go....................:hide:

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 08:55 PM

Pete, you said ET streets.

SS346

10-12-2003, 09:07 PM

for the people who are genuinely interested in specs good onya!
but the people who are strung up on the most intimate details, get over it! who gives a shit what tyres , what diff, what brakes, what maf its got...... the thing is tough, it ran the 12's with a stock engine THATS IT.

just congratulate them on a job well done.

i feel much better now:D

Plan B

10-12-2003, 09:10 PM

So do I..... Thanks mate. :)

blk vy ss ute

10-12-2003, 09:12 PM

ditto :cheers:

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by SS346
who gives a shit what tyres

Lots of people are interested to know what their car is capable of in street trim dude. All i did was quote the manufacturer on ET streets. If they are considered street tyres on here, then cool. :lol: I wouldn't drive on the road with em after seeing what a bit of broken glass did to one on a friends car at high speed.

Cheers!

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by SLE355
Hear we go....................:hide:

:D

juzzy

10-12-2003, 10:01 PM

I've got just alittle feeling this could be another intresting thread. Maybe, maybe not.

Redline

10-12-2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by juzzy
I've got just alittle feeling this could be another intresting thread. Maybe, maybe not. No it won't be :teach:

BRUTE

10-12-2003, 10:23 PM

damned if you do damned if you dont .....:rolleyes:

Martin_D

10-12-2003, 10:36 PM

Lets see if I can add a cam, put on proper slicks, use a US converter and run a wheelspinning 12.2 with a vaporising 1.6 60
I reckon I can! Give me a month at most.

BTW: I drove home on the ET Streets and runners...some 35km, and they were fine...on the HIGHWAY

Smoke them!.....Smoke me!

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by juzzy
I've got just alittle feeling this could be another intresting thread. Maybe, maybe not.

That wasn't my intention dude. Just stating what the manufacturer claims about ET streets.

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
Lets see if I can add a cam, put on proper slicks, use a US converter and run a wheelspinning 12.2 with a vaporising 1.6 60
I reckon I can! Give me a month at most.

Martin, the more the better :)

This isn't about my car dude. I know you are capable of getting em to go. Add a good cam to Brute and it'll equal or beat mine. It's all fun dude. Ask Henry when we spoke at the track, I was the one tryin to convince him how streetable a stally is after getting one!

Originally posted by Street_Tuna

BTW: I drove home on the ET Streets and runners...some 35km, and they were fine...on the HIGHWAY

Smoke them!.....Smoke me!

Again, all I did was state what the tyre manufacturer says about those tyres so people aren't mislead. I wouldn't run et streets on my car everyday as I seen what can happen. If that's wrong, shoot me :D

Martin_D

10-12-2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by r8ls1
Again, all I did was state what the tyre manufacturer says about those tyres so people aren't mislead. I wouldn't run et streets on my car everyday as I seen what can happen. If that's wrong, shoot me :D

Aww come on now, I expect more fire than that! :love:

r8ls1

10-12-2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
Aww come on now, I expect more fire than that! :love:

I expected more from you :D

VY sv8 CLUBBY

11-12-2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by SS346
for the people who are genuinely interested in specs good onya!
but the people who are strung up on the most intimate details, get over it! who gives a shit what tyres , what diff, what brakes, what maf its got...... the thing is tough, it ran the 12's with a stock engine THATS IT.
just congratulate them on a job well done.
i feel much better now:D

I didn't mean to start a war here. :eek: All I wanted was specifics so I can go out an buy the same tyres because I believe they will benefit me and my ride.

I also aspire to run 12's with a stock engine.
That is all. Sorry If I upset anyone.
I did not mean to.

:girl:
Sandra

Red CV8 R

11-12-2003, 04:38 PM

I am glad someone questioned the tyres as I was not going to! Things can turn nasty on this forum asking those kinds of questions!

I looked at the picture of the 1 tonner and thought:

A) Tuna has crap taste in mags
B) Tuna is trying to go old school 1 tunna style
C) Times are tough in Adelaide
D) They are not "normal" street tyres

Either way fantastic effort and just shows what these cars can run stock if they can put it to the ground effectively. Well done and look foward to the future development of this beast. :thumbsup:

Martin_D

11-12-2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by HSV Senator
I looked at the picture of the 1 tonner and thought:
A) Tuna has crap taste in mags
B) Tuna is trying to go old school 1 tunna style
C) Times are tough in Adelaide
D) They are not "normal" street tyres

A) In the flesh not bad, but hey, they were CHEAP
B) Refer A
C) Refer A
D) They had 'STREET' written on them. Who am I to question it?

Interestingly enough, BRUTES BFG Radials, which are a 'genuine' street tyre, were faster over 60 foot. With real slicks the Tunny would have been even quicker again

Red CV8 R

11-12-2003, 04:44 PM

Whoops should make it clear I am not knocking anyone or saying anything just a question that poped into my head to when I looked at the photo! The small wheels stand out on big VT-VY commodores!

Edit: you are quick to respond!

Red CV8 R

11-12-2003, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
A) In the flesh not bad, but hey, they were CHEAP
B) Refer A
C) Refer A
D) They had 'STREET' written on them. Who am I to question it?

Interestingly enough, BRUTES BFG Radials, which are a 'genuine' street tyre, were faster over 60 foot. With real slicks the Tunny would have been even quicker again

That is interesting actually, What was the comparision on the 60ft between the two utes? What diameter where Brutes wheels? 17x8?

It raises the question how much do these suckers weigh in comparison to the normal ROH wheels fitted to commodores?

BRUTE

11-12-2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by HSV Senator
That is interesting actually, What was the comparision on the 60ft between the two utes? What diameter where Brutes wheels? 17x8?

my 60' times were all around the 1.8 - 1.77 mark

the BFG Radials I use are 235x60x15's which have been my daily tyres for the last 4 weeks

Red CV8 R

11-12-2003, 05:03 PM

What wheels do you run those tyres on?

BRUTE

11-12-2003, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by HSV Senator
What wheels do you run those tyres on?

standard 15 x7 steel Holden cop rims

Red CV8 R

11-12-2003, 05:08 PM

You would also get a benefit of less weight compared to the bigger Holden rims to hey? I would have though your SSX style front spoiler might suffer though! What suspension have you got and have you found benefits in playing with spring rates and shock valving? They are great 60ft times!

BRUTE

11-12-2003, 05:40 PM

not sure on the weight of the rims

got bilstiens all round, sorry but haven't got time to play with spring rates and shock valving, but am happy with the suspension that I have. cheers on the times.

feel like I've hijacked ya thread ST so back to ya ;)

SS346

12-12-2003, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by VY sv8 CLUBBY
I didn't mean to start a war here. :eek: All I wanted was specifics so I can go out an buy the same tyres because I believe they will benefit me and my ride.

I also aspire to run 12's with a stock engine.
That is all. Sorry If I upset anyone.
I did not mean to.

:girl:
Sandra

VY sv8 CLUBBY that post was NOT aimed at you:)

VY sv8 CLUBBY

12-12-2003, 04:31 PM

All's cool.
you have a reply pm.:) :girl:

SS346

12-12-2003, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by VY sv8 CLUBBY
All's cool.
you have a reply pm.:) :girl:

haaah! i just read it, now i might be able to get some sleep tonight.;)

MattJ

12-12-2003, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
ET Streets (DOT Approved). Little tiny profile ones on a 15” rim. They helped with the final ratio. Also these cars with only a few tweaks, hook pretty well on the strip because the wheels remain parallel to each other gotta keep the tonner suspension soft too, just like the old ones. ;)

Good onya for asking a technical question by the way. Not much of that around lately.

:cheers:

http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/tonpic2.jpg Phew for a minute there I was worried.ET Streets,Damn, I've been using those things for a couple of years on our big banger.Always thought they were a slick with a couple of grooves cut down the middle.All those years & I could of called them a street tyre after all.Looks like you beat me to it with my M/T front wheel drive tyre idea:doh: Must have been the weight saving from ditching the maf that helped too.
Well done by the way,regardless of what tyre is used a 12 sec pass on a near stock deal is a great effort & the tonner sure does look tuff.Thought it would have been lighter than that though.

Cheers Glenn

Martin_D

13-12-2003, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by G&D PERFORMANCE
Well done by the way,regardless of what tyre is used a 12 sec pass on a near stock deal is a great effort & the tonner sure does look tuff.Thought it would have been lighter than that though.
Cheers Glenn

Try getting yuor guys to run 12s on stock everything, headers, exhaust, - MAF, its a lot of work! Not much money in it though

Plan B

13-12-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by G&D PERFORMANCE
Phew for a minute there I was worried.ET Streets,Damn, I've been using those things for a couple of years on our big banger.Always thought they were a slick with a couple of grooves cut down the middle.

You guy's should really get over the street tyre on the race track thing.

Speak to your good friend Russell and ask him what a street tyre does to a well prepped track. He can’t stand them on his track, perhaps for the same reason that AIR wouldn’t allow street tyres for the test and tune this day.

Another added benefit in running a proper tyre would be the ability to allow the owners to actually drive their car. :rolleyes:

SLE355

13-12-2003, 01:10 PM

So why quote that it was run on street tyres? :confused:

Plan B

13-12-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by SLE355
So why quote that it was run on street tyres? :confused:

What part about street legal tyres accepted by the track on a test and tune day, don't you understand? :confused:

I've gone over this thread again and nope, I don't understand your question.

MattJ

13-12-2003, 02:53 PM

you guys stated they were street tyres and in big picture it actually means something. Its got nothing to do with what a street tyre does to the track or how stock the vehicle was or anything else, you said it and pointed it out as highlight of the times, its misleading and simply not true. now you gotta defend it... simple.

In my eyes your almost half a second of the mark.

also, how'd you figure that thing weighs so much?

Matt.

MattJ

13-12-2003, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
What part about street legal tyres accepted by the track on a test and tune day, don't you understand? :confused:

I've gone over this thread again and nope, I don't understand your question.

Peter, nobody called them ''street legal tyres accepted by the track on a test and tune day'' anywhere? perhaps if they where called that, you guys wouldnt be defending anything and might be basking in accolades.

Ive gone over this thread again and nope, i dont understand why you guys cant just race your cars, do the times and leave out the BS.

Plan B

13-12-2003, 03:02 PM

Plan B

13-12-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by phantom meneSS
Peter, nobody called them ''street legal tyres accepted by the track on a test and tune day'' anywhere? perhaps if they where called that, you guys wouldnt be defending anything and might be basking in accolades.

Ive gone over this thread again and nope, i dont understand why you guys cant just race your cars, do the times and leave out the BS.

What bullshit??? Sandra asked the question I answered it. Glenn makes up his own rules again and now you want to fight about it. Hey your half a second off the pace remember! Get to the track.

Plan B

13-12-2003, 03:07 PM

Nathan say's hi! :wave:

Justice R8

13-12-2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
What part about street legal tyres accepted by the track on a test and tune day, don't you understand? :confused:

I've gone over this thread again and nope, I don't understand your question.

Matt

What Pete is refering to is that the tyres WERE street legal tyres, and yes those particular tyres were allowed to run on the test and tune day.

Martin did drive home on them as well.

MattJ

13-12-2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
Matt they would have been slicks if Martin could have organised some. "You guys" ??? Have another read will ya!

In your eye's 1/2 a second??? WTF.... What are you guy's putting in that aphabet soup of yours??? :p

you guys, those guys, that guy, him, all the same!! just one of the 3 amigo's.

almost 1/2 a second, yep of justice's wife's SV8. - slicks, tune & minimal mods

alphabet soup, how d'you know what i had for lunch, the more i read of this thread the more I could see the two letters B and S in my meal, i dont think many people are eating it up though. :p

Send my highest regards to Mr Higgins and the message that i hope is monster is making much mumbo.

Glenn making up his own rules? cough..cough. such as?

yes, actually im more than half a second of the mark, i know it and am preparing for another go.

Darren with respect, they are NOT street legal in any state other than pissed.

:beer: :wave:

Plan B

13-12-2003, 03:42 PM

Here’s a thought Matt, seeing as you think it’s Bullshit. Have another read… The car actually went to the track. The car used ET Dot approved streets. The car ran these times. Now where is the Bullshit?? Come on mate ….

Accolades??

Perhaps we should have said, next year were gunna do this because it’s really gunna go and it will be fast and I can hardly sleep thinking about how fast we’re gunna go. We’re gunna call it project BS!!!

We’ve just loaded my old 411 full spool into the back of Nathan’s ute for you to use in your Monaro… Don’t forget to mention it at your next track attack, will you! ;)

SLE355

13-12-2003, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
You guy's should really get over the street tyre on the race track thing.

First it was quoted that it was run on street tyres then when someone asked what tyres it was ET Street then it was said there not the one's.....:confused: .....then the above was quoted.

I'm still :confused:

Someone said that there weren't enough technical question's asked anymore. As HSV Senator said no one's prepared to ask these types of questions as this is what happen's.

MattJ

13-12-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Plan B
Here’s a thought Matt, seeing as you think it’s Bullshit. Have another read… The car actually went to the track. The car used ET Dot approved streets. The car ran these times. Now where is the Bullshit?? Come on mate ….

Accolades??

Perhaps we should have said, next year were gunna do this because it’s really gunna go and it will be fast and I can hardly sleep thinking about how fast we’re gunna go. We’re gunna call it project BS!!!

We’ve just loaded my old 411 full spool into the back of Nathan’s ute for you to use in your Monaro… Don’t forget to mention it at your next track attack, will you! ;) :lol: Gotta love it.

Martin_D

13-12-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by phantom meneSS
you guys stated they were street tyres and in big picture it actually means something. Its got nothing to do with what a street tyre does to the track or how stock the vehicle was or anything else, you said it and pointed it out as highlight of the times, its misleading and simply not true. now you gotta defend it... simple.

Defend it from who? You? Ok, Ill put it in language you can understand....

"Ok guys, Ive had this real exciting dream, I spoke to someone in the States and they reckon, if I play my cards right, that anything is possible by running ET Streets on a One Tonner. Im going to wait till next year, but Ive already messed my undies over the times its run in my head. Times are so exciting, and everyone so excellently wonderful that I cant really contain my excitement any longer. Im going to call it Project TOSSER (TOnner Super Street Excellent Racer)"

In my eyes your almost half a second of the mark.

Who gives a toss about your eyes. Focus them ahead, on that piddly bolt on stocky Vortech car that makes yours look about a second off the mark. Want to swap your whole second for my half? Betcha do

also, how'd you figure that thing weighs so much?
Matt.

Again, translated so you can understand.....
"Theres this truly wonderful and exciting device imported from the States called a weighbridge. I spoke to the designers from the states, and they said, that if I put $5 in, then a magical thing will happen...and it did, a number appeared. First I though it was a projected quarter mile time, 17.00, but then I noticed there was no decimal point, and it was actually a weight! I cant wait to see what happens next!"

Plan B

13-12-2003, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by SLE355
I'm still :confused:

OK! I'll say it again... Just for you. ;) "they would have been slicks if Martin could have organised some."

Originally posted by SLE355

no one's prepared to ask these types of questions as this is what happen's.

No mate. This little flame thing is a result of someone calling the other person a bull shitter! An interesting statement from a shop that is full of promise and no results. They had a street illegal yes illegal 265 tyred car scrape into the high 12’s once and once only after a fully prepped track following a race day. (It hasn’t been repeated) They also once stated that Sam’s dyno was out, the next day we turned up at their shop… guess what? Their dyno read 2% higher than Sam’s. Darren’s SV8 made the same power as Richards BTW. Funny how it ran bigger MPH down the ¼ in higher ambient temperatures. Now they blatantly come out and point the finger and say that’s BULLSHIT! Other shops are involved here.

I’m mighty pissed off about this. To date I have remained partial with all the crap, wishes, wanna be, could have been, should have been statements that have come from this shop, but when one their representatives calls BS I’ll be the first to stand up to the plate go over the facts and support the claim.

It’s a little Neanderthal to stamp your feet and cry-out bullshit when someone goes quick don’t you think? I remember ages ago when HOWQUICK got going fast in Kim’s ute. The first thing to pop out of this persons mouth was…. “Are you sure you didn’t use the NOS?”

Sure competition breeds innovation but lack of understanding shouldn’t result in name calling.

pdv666

13-12-2003, 06:27 PM

I have an idea!

Why don,t some forum mods in each state, buy some slicks or drag radials for general use.

If anybody wants to use them charge a nominal fee for each run, i dont know maybe $5.00. (some of the more credible forum members already do it for free!)

The money rasied would pay for the tyres and the rest could go in the forum kitty.

That way if anybody wants to run on slicks or drag radials they can, no more excuses or crying poor.

Then its easy pay up and run or shut up!! if you are too tight to pay $5.00 for a run well i wont say it.

No more of this wankers sh*t. I am personally sick an tired of the ratio of recognition versus put downs.

I hope i never achieve my target time because i know i will have to feel guilty and do 5gezillion hail marys or beat myself with a barb wire cattle prod ;)

Why not toss the idea around instead of tossing each other around.:soap:

And for all the LS1ers that have achieved great times. WAY TO GO!!:bow: :bow: fukc the knockers !! :flip3:

SchrgdVSV6

13-12-2003, 07:40 PM

Congrats!

I read the 6 pages of postings and still didnt find a scanned copy of the timeslips... :hmmm: (excuse me Im not too attentive).

Is it possible to get an image of the best ET?

Sorry for asking such a non-technical question... I was gonna ask it earlier, but it probably wouldve resulted in a flame war of some sort :stick: :D

Justice R8

13-12-2003, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by pdv666
I have an idea!

Why don,t some forum mods in each state, buy some slicks or drag radials for general use.

If anybody wants to use them charge a nominal fee for each run, i dont know maybe $5.00. (some of the more credible forum members already do it for free!)

The money rasied would pay for the tyres and the rest could go in the forum kitty.

That way if anybody wants to run on slicks or drag radials they can, no more excuses or crying poor.

Then its easy pay up and run or shut up!! if you are too tight to pay $5.00 for a run well i wont say it.

No more of this wankers sh*t. I am personally sick an tired of the ratio of recognition versus put downs.

I hope i never achieve my target time because i know i will have to feel guilty and do 5gezillion hail marys or beat myself with a barb wire cattle prod ;)

Why not toss the idea around instead of tossing each other around.:soap:

And for all the LS1ers that have achieved great times. WAY TO GO!!:bow: :bow: fukc the knockers !! :flip3:

We already do this but dont charge anything. At heathcote a few of us used petes slicks and other tyres. This thursday at the creek I am taking 2 sets of semi comps and a set of slicks for the boys to use. It's called having fun with your mates. It should all be fun.
I was on an American internet site and a bloke from the States said that if we share things we will have more fun and if a bloke from the states said it, it must be true.

Come on guys take a valium and calm down. It seems everytime a quick time is run it gets a million questions. That is not a bad thing. Ask any questions as thats how we all learn, but of course people will get upset if they are called bullshitters. What do you expect. If you stick your head up and make a grand statement that somebody is bullshitting, expect people to have a crack at you and question your statements. If I call somebody a bullshitter i expect them to take a swing back.

Note this one tonner statement was made after the time was done, the SV8 statement was made after the time was run, blown CV8 the same. Yes there is a pattern here that the times are run and then the statements are made, not a big statement of gunna this and gunna that. Gunnas dont count.

As Speedy Gonzales would say ondolay ondolay reeba reeba:burnout: . I must assume that I am being referred to as one of the three amigos. Please explain. So far I dont think I was doing much giving much in this one but If i am one of the Amigos, thankyou for the compliment. I guess it's like they say. For the knockers, All publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right.:flip3:

F6Mauz

14-12-2003, 12:34 AM

It was my understanding that a street tyre is something that is driven for daily duties and able to be driven in the dry and wet. Not a tyre classified as a street and cannot go near any water.

Please don't :flame: me :hide:

FatBoy

14-12-2003, 05:28 AM

Like everything in life there are two types of people: Those who get out there and achieve - and those who make excuses when they fall short of expectations... It's a shame the latter try to talk to down the achievements of the first mob... :stick:

Well done Tuna and Pete... The thread was originally about the tonner running a 12 in pretty much totally stock form wasn't it ??

To those criticizing here's a thought - get out and do better yourself then... :slap:

Cheers,
Paul...

Martin_D

14-12-2003, 08:19 AM

For those that cant understand, or dont believe, or havent the reading ability....here it is in pictures.....

http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/tonresult.jpg

Golly gosh Cleetus we was telling tha truth ther hole time!
Now Phantom Men-arse, anything else?

Plan B

14-12-2003, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by G&D PERFORMANCE
Must have been the weight saving from ditching the maf that helped too.

http://www.purefect.com.au/planb/doughboy/maf.jpg

FatBoy

14-12-2003, 09:11 AM

:shock:

Dane

14-12-2003, 09:29 AM

I doubt the service book was in the glovebox aswell dudes, there's another 450grams off ...... :thumbsup:

Its amazes me how much weight is placed on the tread used when a top time is run.

I would say but, for drags the tread can and does have a huge impact on the result. But if there is a question placed on the time V's tread used, this takes the thread to another topic.

As for this thread ..... It was all about the ET and the MPH . :driving:

:cheers:

Martin_D

14-12-2003, 09:58 AM

I have a special place for MAFs, B might be kind enough to show you

Plan B

14-12-2003, 10:18 AM

Sorry mate, the rubbish bin full pic came out blurry. I must have been laughing to much. :lol:

I've got this pre loved pic though!

http://www.purefect.com.au/planb/doughboy/maflove.jpg

markone2

14-12-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Plan B
Sorry mate, the rubbish bin full pic came out blurry. I must have been laughing to much. :lol:

I've got this pre loved pic though!

http://www.purefect.com.au/planb/doughboy/maflove.jpg

:doh: It would appear my growing concern’s about venturing out in the world Muffless are well founded. Thinks I shall stick with a
Good woman and plenty of :beer:

MattJ

14-12-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Plan B

No mate. This little flame thing is a result of someone calling the other person a bull shitter! An interesting statement from a shop that is full of promise and no results. They had a street illegal yes illegal 265 tyred car scrape into the high 12’s once and once only after a fully prepped track following a race day. (It hasn’t been repeated) They also once stated that Sam’s dyno was out, the next day we turned up at their shop… guess what? Their dyno read 2% higher than Sam’s. Darren’s SV8 made the same power as Richards BTW. Funny how it ran bigger MPH down the ¼ in higher ambient temperatures. Now they blatantly come out and point the finger and say that’s BULLSHIT! Other shops are involved here.

I’m mighty pissed off about this. To date I have remained partial with all the crap, wishes, wanna be, could have been, should have been statements that have come from this shop, but when one their representatives calls BS I’ll be the first to stand up to the plate go over the facts and support the claim.

It’s a little Neanderthal to stamp your feet and cry-out bullshit when someone goes quick don’t you think? I remember ages ago when HOWQUICK got going fast in Kim’s ute. The first thing to pop out of this persons mouth was…. “Are you sure you didn’t use the NOS?”

Sure competition breeds innovation but lack of understanding shouldn’t result in name calling.

so now you see the need to discredit other people, whom have nothing to do with this thread, big man.

:sleep: seriously, Martin stated they where a street tyre, they are not, that was bullshit. I appreciate the time run no matter what the tyre and only questioned the weight as it seemed high compared to magazine and holden specs?. thats it. you guys can turn it up side down and inside out as much as you like, the question and doubts where raised before i got my grubby mits on my keyboard. So Pete, given thats all i and others had a go at, what are the facts? what's the rule changing going on by us? the floors yours.

The Howquick and kims ute thing is gold, the question was in jest... like, you sure you ran the full 1/4 not the 1/8th? wink wink nudge nudge - well done. :doh:

Martin_D

14-12-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Plan B
Sorry mate, the rubbish bin full pic came out blurry. I must have been laughing to much. :lol:
I've got this pre loved pic though!

Ta buddy :shiner:
Now everyone, time to take a DEEP BREATH
and time for some :love2: between you guys

Im alright, Ive got my MUF :drool:

Justice R8

14-12-2003, 10:51 AM

As the blackeyed peas say

Where is the love?

Martin_D

14-12-2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by Justice R8
As the blackeyed peas say
Where is the love?

In my pants by the look of that shot :moon:

Plan B

14-12-2003, 11:04 AM

Matt.

You are from G&D right? You called it Bullshit right? What’s up mate, does the truth hurt?

MattJ

14-12-2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Plan B
Matt.

You are from G&D right? You called it Bullshit right? What’s up mate, does the truth hurt?

Pete, im still waiting from the truth, your avoiding the questions.

you dont mean the street tyres on the prepared race track do you? I thought they wrecked prepared race tracks?

a/ are ET Streets a street legal tyre in Aus?

b/ what rule changes have been made?

Plan B

14-12-2003, 11:50 AM

Ok, I’ll answer both in one.

This is the word from the head honcho amigo!

Originally posted by Sidewindr
I would say Nitto's are also acceptable as they are perfectly legal on the road.

Street tyres are DOT approved road legal tyres. Ie not slicks... fairly simple :D

They say DOT Approved on them. Now Matt, stop trying to work your way out of this. You basically called me a liar. You had me on the defence three times before I moved to your level of offence. Don’t associate me with bullshit and you wont get razzed like this.

Just keep your attacks for the track and all will be well. I can sleep at night BTW! :xmas:

Sidewindr

14-12-2003, 11:53 AM

Oi that was my opinion on a completley different thread .. stop cross quoting me :confused: :p By DOT approved I meant Australian DOT if that is the case then they'd be street legal.

I think Matt is talking about getting done by the cops street legal .. I don't know if ET Streets will pass the HWP test or not.. I know Nitto's would tho.

Pete did you get my 2 last e-mails?? I've had no reply from you??

Plan B

14-12-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Sidewindr
Pete did you get my 2 last e-mails?? I've had no reply from you??

Done. :yup:

motomk

14-12-2003, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Justice R8
As the blackeyed peas say

Where is the love?

Shut-up shut-up!!!! hehehehehehehe;) :wave:

Devil CV8

14-12-2003, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
For those that cant understand, or dont believe, or havent the reading ability....here it is in pictures.....

http://users.senet.com.au/~dtech/tonresult.jpg

Golly gosh Cleetus we was telling tha truth ther hole time!
Now Phantom Men-arse, anything else?

What I want to know is why wasn't this posted 3 years ago, after all the timeslip has 3:46pm 1/jul/2000:p or is there some other mod to the tonner that distorts time,,, ahhh thats what it is...

sorry, had to try and inject some humour before some people here blow a gasket

SLE355

14-12-2003, 05:36 PM

Yeah and look how cold it was no wonder it did a 12 !!:stick:

HRT.2FAST

14-12-2003, 05:54 PM

why bother quoting 12.89 @103 on street tyres
When you where running "RACE"tyres :limpy:

So i'm assuming know that you are in bed with street tuna now plan B all your results will end up with a shadow of dout about them have to be picked to peices to find out what really went down with a jury brought in to give a verdict :spew:

Oh even better why dont you start a performance shop! and have a vested interest in bagging everyones products even if they are great
And then give misleading answers to questions about different superchargers etc and come out looking like you know sweet f___ all

OHH wait a second it's all ready been done :love:

Can't wait to get my full "street trim" SS with 11psi alky injected ls1 out on some slicks to beat the street trim record........

STATIE

14-12-2003, 06:33 PM

This relates to both this thread and drewbytes power v quarter mile time thread but couldn't decide which one to put it on.

My car is a Statie which I think weigh about 1760 kg and the best time I have run to date is a 13.49 at 103.xx mph.
Looking at the LIST the B/ST tonner is by far the lowest mph car in the 12's (102.75) and the 60 ft is shitloads better than anything I could get (ie nearly half a second better)
As both my car and the tonner have similar mph does that mean that I could theoretically crack a 12 as it is?
This also means one of two things-
1. B gets the best take off's out
2. That tonner hooks up f"n grouse.

Either way you look at it - it is still a shithot time for a very close to stock car.

congratulations.

BlownCV8

14-12-2003, 06:56 PM

Statie, the simple answer is yes.......however getting it to the ground and hooking up is the biggest problem you will face.

Have another look at the list and there are plenty of cars running around the 125MPH that should be in the 10's.....it aint easy. But not impossible.

Good luck mate:thumbsup:

By the way B, ST.........the car hooked up good, you gave it shit allday, and you kept trying and then ran 3 runs in the 12's.......thats all that matters. Good on ya.:cheers: The fact that the mph is lower than most in the 12's is a sheer compliment...of the tune, set up and driving........its done it. Dont waste your time explaining or trying to make the blind see........it will give you olcers.:lol:

KeenGolfer

14-12-2003, 07:10 PM

According to an Autospeed article on semi-race tyres that are legal for road use: "There's a simple way of identifying whether or not a tyre is legal for road use. If it has "DOT" or "E" written on the sidewall, it's passable - no probs. DOT is the US abbreviation for the Department of Transport, while "E" is the recognised European compliance symbol."

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1883/article.html

K Man

14-12-2003, 07:20 PM

I know f. all about MPH, 60ft or what ever etc etc... But when i read "street tyres" you think fairly normal or general street tyres. When I read this thread I thought "wow with a BIT OF WORK i should be able to run high 12 secs in GTS no brop even on my pirellis."
Look I know their are technical issues with tyres etc but the AVERAGE JOE would not consider these tyres "street tyres"

I am NOT saying that anyone set out to decieve infact I AM SURE this is not the case. Just expressing my impressions.
Time slip is still awesome regardless. :bow:
:cheers: :cheers:

Plan B

14-12-2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by STATIE
This relates to both this thread and drewbytes power v quarter mile time thread but couldn't decide which one to put it on.

My car is a Statie which I think weigh about 1760 kg and the best time I have run to date is a 13.49 at 103.xx mph.
Looking at the LIST the B/ST tonner is by far the lowest mph car in the 12's (102.75) and the 60 ft is shitloads better than anything I could get (ie nearly half a second better)
As both my car and the tonner have similar mph does that mean that I could theoretically crack a 12 as it is?
This also means one of two things-
1. B gets the best take off's out
2. That tonner hooks up f"n grouse.

Either way you look at it - it is still a shithot time for a very close to stock car.

congratulations.

Yeah, your car ran a great time and MPH. Really... Tuna's car laid over in the top end. No beans man... I believe he's fixed that now. I'm not into dream talk so we'll see. ;)

HRT.2FAST, I'm not much into the channelling stuff either! So if you want to have a go at someone else via me…. Forget it. I’m not phased at all.

I know very little about forced induction and I’m the first to admit it. If you have a look at that big FI thread a little while ago, You’ll see that I didn’t post or have an opinion about either product. How could I? I haven’t experienced either one. There are enough inexperienced opinions around this place as it is. Know what I mean?

For the record, I have driven much faster LS1 powered cars than this with big stally's. Slicks are the best and again my first choice. Nitto's shit on these things big time. If you don't beleive me, you havn't done it as I have. (quickCV8 ran 12.0 on Nitto's with a 4k stally with poor track prep) Hey that's the fastest street tyred car right?

For those wanting to find a good dual purpose tyre.... Get Nitto's. Get Nitto's. Get Nitto's.

I should also add, that quickcv8 went slower on slicks Hmmm. :)

KrisCoz

14-12-2003, 08:16 PM

wOw!! That beats my 1 tonner alot...
Well I guess anything could our 1 tonner is that old...

Hey Congradulations too!! Well Done

Martin_D

14-12-2003, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by HRT.2FAST
why bother quoting 12.89 @103 on street tyres
When you where running "RACE"tyres :limpy:
OHH wait a second it's all ready been done :love:

So what have you run on ANY TYRE?
Your kit was piss weak (312rwkw) on the original car it came off,
and probably even weaker on yours. Congrats for paying big $$ for it :limpy:
Come out, eclipse Robs 11.4 @ 127mph - AFTER ALL YOU QUOTED YOURS WAS GOOD FOR 10.99s OR BETTER in a previous thread - then speak. Until then son, you are another tosser, with a big hole in his pocket, and a slow car. Enjoy

You chose to enter into this thread
Save speaking about how fast its going to be next year......heard that one already.

Also, congrats to G&D and Phantom for LOANING A 4.11 OFF PLAN B to try and beat Robs 3.9s. Well done lads. You people are just wrong. On one hand you call him a liar, then you beg to loan his parts. Thats one animal you have there!

HRT.2FAST

14-12-2003, 08:59 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Street_Tuna
[B]So what have you run on ANY TYRE?
Your kit was piss weak (312rwkw) on the original car it came off,
and probably even weaker on yours. Congrats for paying big $$ for it :limpy:
Come out, eclipse Robs 11.4 @ 127mph - AFTER ALL YOU QUOTED YOURS WAS GOOD FOR 10.99s OR BETTER in a previous thread - then speak. Until then son, you are another tosser, with a big hole in his pocket, and a slow car. Enjoy

You chose to enter into this thread
Save speaking about how fast its going to be next year......heard that one already.

There Threre:bawl:...................................... ............................
I won't waste your time with my list of upgrades since my last lot of numbers 340rwkw's still on 9psi++++:hide:

Ohh and from now on all ANDRA sanctioned events will be held in my street ,
As now i have a G-Tech "pro"when it gets here!......thanks drewbytes....... with shift light and HP and Tq read outs, so stay tuned as i deliver some amazing results in ST shootout mode with graphs and lcd read out to confirm my great results aswell as having 3 tatts lotto officials to over see the runs :nutkick:

And we are only days away from the first "Drag meet"
with a full "street class"
With i leading the way with an intercooled alky injected "PD" blown ls1 with street legal "SLICKS" and 90/10's up front...
:nopity:
With the results to be sent via a second party "justice r8" where the list of mods will be watered down to street tyres, stadard unleaded ,and a few bolt ons and published on this forum,

Oh 10.99 i'm sure i can get 9's down hill with a tail wind with this g-tech thing as there only supposed to be 5-1000's out from a proper timing equipment............but then ya can't believe everything you read:yup:

MattJ

14-12-2003, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Street_Tuna
So what have you run on ANY TYRE?
Your kit was piss weak (312rwkw) on the original car it came off,
and probably even weaker on yours. Congrats for paying big $$ for it :limpy:
Come out, eclipse Robs 11.4 @ 127mph - AFTER ALL YOU QUOTED YOURS WAS GOOD FOR 10.99s OR BETTER in a previous thread - then speak. Until then son, you are another tosser, with a big hole in his pocket, and a slow car. Enjoy

You chose to enter into this thread
Save speaking about how fast its going to be next year......heard that one already.

Also, congrats to G&D and Phantom for LOANING A 4.11 OFF PLAN B to try and beat Robs 3.9s. Well done lads. You people are just wrong. On one hand you call him a liar, then you beg to loan his parts. Thats one animal you have there!

Tuna, charming remarks, maybe it was piss weak on the original car because of who tuned it, or maybe your speaking out of another orifice because you in fact, never even drove it. Also, how the fark would you know what HRT-2 paid?

Congrats? get your facts straight, it aint Planb's diff, i never called or insinuated Peter is or was a liar and I couldnt give a flying fark if Rob run's a 9 tommorow!! Its true id like to beat Rob's current time only because id like to eventually run a 10, simple.

We may indeed maybe ''another tosser'' but you sir are the King!!

Pete, sorry if you think i suggested you where a liar, i honestly did not intend to impliment you as such or suggest you where not above board, however as for associating you with bullshit, i have no control with whom you associate with therefore that problem is your own.