Hi people, anyone know what the VXSS 1/4 times were

[chilly]

just curious
and also vy ss
or some direction to where i might find out
thanks
chilly

[Fabio's CV8]

Have a read of this.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3624

[Beej]

I've got Motor magazines with tests of both - VX was around 14.3x, and VY they managed to crack a 13.9x - just, and there were suspicions of souped up press cars - however I think the experiences of forum members back up the Motor times - the VYs are definitely quicker out of the box than the VX.

PS: The Quick List link posted on this thread contains mainly modified - not stock standard - cars.

Cheers,

Beej

[chilly]

thanks for the replys people
yes i thought it was 14.2-3 for vx ss

so i am running 14 .1-2 after putting heaps of mods on
cold air induction
filter
maf
tb
pipe
paces 3x1 ....2x1/2 cat back
3.7gears
plugs
edit ..without ignition advance ?
etc


somebody tell me the logic here or have i missed something

[Beej]

Originally posted by chilly
thanks for the replys people
yes i thought it was 14.2-3 for vx ss

so i am running 14 .1-2 after putting heaps of mods on
cold air induction
filter
maf
tb
pipe
paces 3x1 ....2x1/2 cat back
3.7gears
plugs
edit ..without ignition advance ?
etc


somebody tell me the logic here or have i missed something

Hi Chilly,

Question 1: What are your 60ft times and your terminal trap speed? Launch is everything with the M6!

Question 2: What is "edit without ignition advance"???? One the main area's the stock PCM mappings use to de-tune is by providing bugger all ignition advance - a tune/edit should fix that!

Question 2: What CAI are you running? Some have been known to rob power - same goes for modified MAFs......

You are getting at least 2-3 tenths better times than a stocky though so you are seeing some benefit from your mods - depending on what your launches are like, either they need improvement, or you need a proper tune to bring the whole package together.

Cheers,

Beej

[markone2]

Exactly what :teach: said

It is not uncommon to see a full 1/2 second knocked off the times of the M6 at Willowbank when the art of Launching is perfected
:cheers:

[chilly]

hi mate
in reply
Q1 2.2 2.3's

Q2 for some reason my engine wont accept ign/advance as told to me..
i had 208 RWKW b4 edit and 212 After
most people seem to get 10 to 20 RWKW after edit

Q3 i run the SS cold air with modification to the inlet pipe
[to air box ] to get nice induction sound

my launches...well who does great on these, i thought with 3.7 gears i was going to run harder through the traps [3rd at 160 k with A4 3.7's]
my 3.08 was the same at terminal ...160 ---168...with same 60ft's

Beej, i dont touch the tyres etc , i drive on drive off so to speak.
regards
chilly

[Fabio's CV8]

That is quite strange about the edit problem.

Who did it?

[chilly]

"That is quite strange about the edit problem.

Who did it?"



Mark at Power torque engines here in Brizzy

[Beej]

Originally posted by chilly
hi mate
in reply
Q1 2.2 2.3's

Q2 for some reason my engine wont accept ign/advance as told to me..
i had 208 RWKW b4 edit and 212 After
most people seem to get 10 to 20 RWKW after edit

Q3 i run the SS cold air with modification to the inlet pipe
[to air box ] to get nice induction sound

my launches...well who does great on these, i thought with 3.7 gears i was going to run harder through the traps [3rd at 160 k with A4 3.7's]
my 3.08 was the same at terminal ...160 ---168...with same 60ft's

Beej, i dont touch the tyres etc , i drive on drive off so to speak.
regards
chilly

OK so yours is an auto - sorry - I got the impression for some reason it was an M6.

60ft times are a little on the long side - with the 3.7s and 212rwkw I would be thinking 2.0s would be easily doable - have you been running on stinking hot days only? Also you may want to try letting a few pounds out of your rears to get a bit more bite off the line - with road tryes 22psi seems to be about the best pressure to run for the 1/4 mile.

Launches - are you stalling her right up on the line? Selecting "D" for drag, left foot mashing the brake and right foot getting as much throttle/RPMs as it will take without moving or stalling?

Weird about what you were told re the ignition advance/tune, but those guys seem to know what they are doing so I would suggest seeking futher clarification from them about the tune they did on your car.

Cheers,

Beej

[REDHOT SS]

Hi Chilly,
In regards to your 60ft times, as Beej stated 2.0's are what you should be aiming for with 3.7's and street tyres. Going straight into stage with tyres covered in shit from the staging lanes and normally a bit of water from the burnout pad will never produce quick 60's, so straight away you can drop 2-3 tenths there putting you straight into the 13's. Unfortunately when you ran the other night the weather was less than ideal with the temp near 30 and the RA between 2600 and 2200, my own car was 2 tenths off the pace so there's even more time to be gained there putting you even deeper into the 13's. As a comparison NOZ-350 ran his Clubsport for the first time (with 3.7's and similar mods as yourself) and ran 13.6, so it is achievable.
Even though they are only 13 and 14 sec cars, startline technique is surprisingly vital to produce quick ET's, so a few more visits to the drags might be in order. Plus its good fun.
Dont give up yet!

:cheers:

[chilly]

"Launches - are you stalling her right up on the line? Selecting "D" for drag, left foot mashing the brake and right foot getting as much throttle/RPMs as it will take without moving or stalling?"
that i am not doing...i am using 2nd or 3rd and just stalling [1000 to 1500 ]

give up....never

oh did i say i had the air on for 2 runs...
gets , so f...g hot and forgot to turn it off.
Strange...didnt notice a great drop in times
Hmmmmm aircon hose straight to inlet must make colder intake temp.....cost...power loss x colder air .......

Oh again.....my daughter who has only burned off volkswagons in her Keeha Rio 1.5 and has never even been to the drags ended up running faster et and terminal than me.
i have a tape [had camera mounted in car] of her making her way up to the staging lights and selecting radio stations for a good song, now if thats not "cool" .

but hey thanks guys for the input, will tone up them launches and see what happens
cya
chilly

[VX255]

Chilly

I know you wont give up

I have been having similar probs also - ie not quick enough off the line and having simalr mods (exc M6) - best time so far is 13.88 (am going to try a spec clutch before next run hopefully) as I too would like to be a 'fair' bit quicker than supposed standard test mules - especially for the value of mods etc that I have done so far. - be good if magazines and manufacturers had to produce runs from non spec cars to give the true results from std cars

BTW dont give up on that EDIT yet. Mark really is a genius 212 rwkw is good for A4 - so it must have been (yes it WAS) running pretty good B4.
MOZZ got a slightly higher reading with similar setup to you by going mafless - that may be the answer - its my next move

was dyno reading a B4 and after on the same day not dyno day vs last week

VX255

:burnout:

[VX255]

Chilly

Just to update you

in the hot with Mafless tune 225 rwkW - after a bit of fidlling with exhaust leak and not quite as Humid a day (apparently its hard to do a mafless tune on a hot ie post 34degree day 90Rel Hum)
the result was a much more pleaseing 232 rwkW for a genuine Scwarzy grass chaser.

Many thanks to Mark and Jamie from Power Torque, they are very wise.

VX255

Road rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men:burnout:

[chilly]

choice result VX255
i hope its raining when i get mine done...

[Mozz]

I have a 215rwkw VTII A4 LS1 edited at powertorque (monaro cai, ss inductions maf pipe, genie headers and 2.25" exhaust) - in Summer it achieves 13.5 in winter at willowbank and anywhere between 13.5 - 14.0 in summer.

One thing I would suggest is get someone else who runs decent times in an auto to give it a fang down the track a couple of times to compare your times with their times.

Hope this helps.

[VX255]

Originally posted by chilly
choice result VX255
i hope its raining when i get mine done...

why not wait till its snowing 'chilly' plenty of cold air then