Adelaide 500 V8Supercars

[SSbaby]

I stole this from ten-tenths... so please don't shoot the messenger...(btw, these are NOT last year's results!) :lol:

RACE RESULTS

Clipsal 500, Adelaide Street Circuit, Round 1
18/3/2004 - 21/3/2004

Practice 1

Race Day: Friday, 00:00-00:00 Race Duration: 00 Minutes Reverse Grid: N

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 20 12 1:23.2625
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 16 8 1:23.3521 0:00.0896
3 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 17 17 1:23.3610 0:00.0985
4 11 Castrol Perkins Racing Team Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 14 13 1:23.5390 0:00.2765
5 31 Supercheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 19 19 1:23.7172 0:00.4547
6 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 17 15 1:23.7737 0:00.5112
7 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 18 13 1:23.8738 0:00.6113
8 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 17 13 1:23.9661 0:00.7036
9 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 18 13 1:23.9855 0:00.7230
10 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 18 18 1:24.0456 0:00.7831
11 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 15 12 1:24.0622 0:00.7997
12 51 K-Mart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 18 8 1:24.0787 0:00.8162
13 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 20 13 1:24.1506 0:00.8881
14 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Jason Richards Holden Commodore VX 19 16 1:24.1852 0:00.9227
15 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 15 10 1:24.2332 0:00.9707
16 15 K-Mart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 16 15 1:24.2352 0:00.9727
17 23 WPS Financial Solutions David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 14 10 1:24.3063 0:01.0438
18 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 17 13 1:24.4011 0:01.1386
19 44 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 13 8 1:24.5252 0:01.2627
20 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VX 18 15 1:24.5428 0:01.2803
21 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 17 17 1:24.6321 0:01.3696
22 20 Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 15 12 1:24.6733 0:01.4108
23 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 18 10 1:24.6759 0:01.4134
24 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Tony Longhurst Holden Commodore VY 20 13 1:24.7635 0:01.5010
25 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 17 17 1:24.9538 0:01.6913
26 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 18 8 1:24.9820 0:01.7195
27 10 Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 14 6 1:25.0082 0:01.7457
28 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 10 9 1:25.0117 0:01.7492
29 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 16 16 1:25.7499 0:02.4874
30 45 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 20 20 1:26.0173 0:02.7548
31 24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX 7 7 1:26.9846 0:03.7221
32 99 Thexton Motor Racing David Thexton Ford Falcon BA 21 19 1:28.9118 0:05.6493
33 43 PWR Performance Products David Krause Holden Commodore VX 3 3 1:31.8335 0:08.5710
34 14 Imrie Motor Sport Terry Wyhoon Holden Commodore VX 1
021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY

[VX2VESS]

ford now havethe first 5 places, so much for not enough downforce winging

[O5BRKY]

Wonder if BOWE is sulking now!?:bash: :booty: :box:
Who did Ingall hit to get those times?:stick:

[SSbaby]

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA P16 1:22.6818
2 31 Supercheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA P16 1:22.7900 0:00.1082
3 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA P16 1:22.8454 0:00.1636
4 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA P16 1:22.8680 0:00.1862
5 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA P16 1:22.9412 0:00.2594
6 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY P16 1:22.9681 0:00.2863
7 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.0323 0:00.3505
8 51 K-Mart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.0487 0:00.3669
9 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.1394 0:00.4576
10 11 Castrol Perkins Racing Team Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.2097 0:00.5279
11 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.3294 0:00.6476
12 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY P14 1:23.3610 0:00.6792
13 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.3826 0:00.7008
14 44 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.4034 0:00.7216
15 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.4358 0:00.7540
16 15 K-Mart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.4389 0:00.7571
17 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Jason Richards Holden Commodore VX P16 1:23.4511 0:00.7693
18 10 Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.4851 0:00.8033
19 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VX P16 1:23.6097 0:00.9279
20 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.6201 0:00.9383
21 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.8319 0:01.1501
22 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA P16 1:23.8988 0:01.2170
23 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY P16 1:23.9958 0:01.3140
24 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY P16 1:24.0132 0:01.3314
25 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY P14 1:24.0622 0:01.3804
26 23 WPS Financial Solutions David Besnard Ford Falcon BA P16 1:24.0709 0:01.3891
27 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY P16 1:24.0790 0:01.3972
28 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA P16 1:24.6574 0:01.9756
29 20 Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA P14 1:24.6733 0:01.9915
30 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Tony Longhurst Holden Commodore VY P14 1:24.7635 0:02.0817
31 45 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY P16 1:24.7957 0:02.1139
32 24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX P16 1:26.8571 0:04.1753
33 43 PWR Performance Products David Krause Holden Commodore VX P16 1:27.3650 0:04.6832
34 99 Thexton Motor Racing David Thexton Ford Falcon BA P16 1:27.8952 0:05.2134
35 14 Imrie Motor Sport Terry Wyhoon Holden Commodore VX P16 1:29.0677 0:06.3859

[Venom XR]

Skaife misses the Top Ten shoot out in, what, years? P13 for him.

[VX2VESS]

yes here qualifying


1 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 9 8 1:21.9363
2 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 10 10 1:22.1849 0:00.2486
3 44 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 10 10 1:22.2522 0:00.3159
4 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 9 9 1:22.3951 0:00.4588
5 31 Supercheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 11 9 1:22.4183 0:00.4820
6 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 7 7 1:22.4188 0:00.4825
7 51 K-Mart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 11 11 1:22.4403 0:00.5040
8 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 10 8 1:22.5114 0:00.5751
9 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 11 11 1:22.5756 0:00.6393
10 15 K-Mart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 12 12 1:22.5822 0:00.6459
11 11 Castrol Perkins Racing Team Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 11 7 1:22.6738 0:00.7375
12 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 12 10 1:22.6996 0:00.7633
13 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 12 10 1:22.7015 0:00.7652
14 10 Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 10 8 1:22.8081 0:00.8718
15 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 9 3 1:22.8716 0:00.9353
16 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 11 7 1:22.8889 0:00.9526
17 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 10 4 1:23.0031 0:01.0668
18 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 9 5 1:23.0986 0:01.1623
19 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 11 11 1:23.1066 0:01.1703
20 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 9 6 1:23.1401 0:01.2038
21 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 11 11 1:23.1886 0:01.2523
22 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Jason Richards Holden Commodore VX 7 2 1:23.2441 0:01.3078
23 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 12 9 1:23.3066 0:01.3703
24 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 11 10 1:23.6259 0:01.6896
25 23 WPS Financial Solutions David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 11 10 1:23.7854 0:01.8491
26 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VX 10 3 1:23.9477 0:02.0114
27 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 11 10 1:24.3065 0:02.3702
28 45 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 11 9 1:24.6625 0:02.7262
29 24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX 2 2 1:25.7257 0:03.7894
30 14 Imrie Motor Sport Terry Wyhoon Holden Commodore VX 12 10 1:27.4730 0:05.5367
31 43 PWR Performance Products David Krause Holden Commodore VX 3 3 1:27.4856 0:05.5493
32 99 Thexton Motor Racing David Thexton Ford Falcon BA 11 3 1:27.7251 0:05.7888
33 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 2 2 *:**.**** *:**.****

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[SSbaby]

It's interesting that Paul Morris has qualified well...his running air-conditioning in his car. Would help him stay cool and reduce fatigue on a circuit that's notoriously hard on drivers.

[VX2VESS]

Originally posted by SSbaby
It's interesting that Paul Morris has qualified well...his running air-conditioning in his car. Would help him stay cool and reduce fatigue on a circuit that's notoriously hard on drivers.

should be allowed to dyno it it with the air on and add extra hp to bring it up back to 600hp. trouble is could cheat and turn it off too i spose. wire it up so can't be turned off.

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by Venom XR
Skaife misses the Top Ten shoot out in, what, years? P13 for him.

Maybe it's time the cream rose to the top....not that I would consider Skaife yoghurt or anything. :stick:

[Venom XR]

Heh, nah. Very odd that neither HRT made the top ten, that would have been the first time in years that I can remember that happening, which goes to show how much of a V8 power they've been, and still are.

Skaife's ended up P12 thanks to a penalty to Radisich which sees him drop out of the top ten to 14th (kerb hopping, presumably.) T.Kelly is 13th.

Good effort by Wills, Dynamik have a new engine package with added grunt and that seems to be working for them.

[The_Senator]

Maybe Skaife's car got hurt more from his little F1 bingle than they are prepared to let on....

But.. Lets no forget that HRT have won this race twice from the rear of the grid.

However it still is a shock to not only see 'em out of the top 10, but 1/2 second off last years pace that they set.. Now the team really starts to earns it's money.. finding the 8/10ths they are down on..

Congrats to Marcus - first time a 1.21 been recorded 'round Adelaide. Credit where it is due and all..

[SSbaby]

Ambrose is a gun, no doubt about it. I wish he drove a Holden. Although he drives for the enemy, I have nothing but admiration for him. Pity about his sidekick..but that's another story.

[Bane]

It's good to see some different cars up the front for a change.

Outstanding effort by Wills and Ellery.

[Aus8]

Well done to Ambrose and Stone Brothers Racing once again! Outstanding time set! Also to Steve Ellery! What a effort in the last few rounds from a one car team!!

[Devil CV8]

Murphy got pole with Ambrose third so all is now right with the world:stick:

[SSbaby]

1 51 Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY Q10 1:22.4672
2 50 Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY Q10 1:22.9629
3 1 Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:23.0463
4 12 John Bowe Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:23.0659
5 34 Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY Q10 1:23.1914
6 888 Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:23.5284
7 9 Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:23.6547
8 31 Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:23.7380
9 88 Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA Q10 1:24.0422
10 44 Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY Q10 1:28.3956

[GUN V8]

like your signature about the mazda3, 6, and rx8. What about an Aston Martin Vanquish?

[holden_o5]

BRING IT ON AND SMASH THE Fords!


Language please Holden_o5

[Devil CV8]

Originally posted by holden_o5
BRING IT ON AND SMASH THE Fords
à bit rough aren't you...we are all friends here, we know holden are superior, and ford fans think ford is...:stick:

[holden_o5]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Devil CV8
[B]à bit rough aren't you...we are all friends here, we know holden are superior, and ford fans think ford is...


......CRAP

[lowriding]

Originally posted by SSbaby
Ambrose is a gun, no doubt about it. I wish he drove a Holden. Although he drives for the enemy, I have nothing but admiration for him. Pity about his sidekick..but that's another story.


As much as i like Ambrose it has more to do with the SBR package than driver . I remember Ford fans saying much the same about Lowndes a few years back...... ,well now he does and has for a bit but ........you know the rest.

[Devil CV8]

Originally posted by holden_o5
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Devil CV8
[B]à bit rough aren't you...we are all friends here, we know holden are superior, and ford fans think ford is...


......CRAP

Íf you think fords are superior then go to FF, we don't need your kind here

[Lioness]

Keep us updated :dance:

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by holden_o5
BRING IT ON AND SMASH THE Fords

A pity Ambrose and Ingall didn't take your high IQ based advice....or does 05 refer to your shoe size?

[BossV8]

all in all a good race to watch, not just for the fact i was gunning for ambrose but it had it all! Some good driving by a fair few

[CeeVee8]

Interesting to see where Skaife is now that he is using the same equipment as everyone else. He was one of the last to switch over to the new blueprint spec motor (Holden Motorsport) which also runs with the control ECU as apposed to the old configuration that could/did have undetectable traction control.
Now calm down all you Skaife fans we'll see how he goes today but yesterday was not what you would expect for HRT, notice how Paul Dumbrel was all over him at the later stage of the race ? How often did you see things like that last year.

[RedVX2]

Congrats to SBR, there still the ones to beat this year.

Skaifey and HRT don't appear to have the pace at the moment. Even at Melbourne when he got back in the pack after the spin with Murph he didn't seem to rocket back through the field like we've seen in years past.

Like CeeVee8 said, Dumbrell was all over him, and Dumbrell is in one of Larry's VX's:stick: and Paul Weel left him for dead as well.

[Devil CV8]

Originally posted by CeeVee8
) which also runs with the control ECU as apposed to the old configuration that could/did have undetectable traction control.


Any proof for these wil accusations. There has been no proof that HRT, or as far as I know any V8 supercar team, have run any form of traction control.. Mind you, it is FACT that FORD DID run UNDERWEIGHT body components and shells with I beleive the EF or EL.... So basically FORD are the only ones who have cheated and been caught....

[CeeVee8]

I can't prove it, thats the point no one could, even the people running the sport could'nt.

But why was the factory Holden team the last ones to use the new Holden Motorsport engine/ecu combo, surely it was not a cost issue for this team !

This type of racing is all about making your tyres last and any form of t/c no matter how sublte is going to help. When the top 15 are covered by less than a second it would certainly be an advantage.

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by CeeVee8
Interesting to see where Skaife is now that he is using the same equipment as everyone else. He was one of the last to switch over to the new blueprint spec motor (Holden Motorsport) which also runs with the control ECU as apposed to the old configuration that could/did have undetectable traction control.
Now calm down all you Skaife fans we'll see how he goes today but yesterday was not what you would expect for HRT, notice how Paul Dumbrel was all over him at the later stage of the race ? How often did you see things like that last year.

I'm no software guru but could you not download the software off the race car immediately after a race and before it was taken into the pits and then check to see if some form of T/C was active within the code? Then again maybe with telemetry etc..you could '"send" to the race car its new legitamate software before the race was over or have some switch within alter the ecu...Like i said I'm no expert somaybe none of this is possible..

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by Devil CV8
Any proof for these wil accusations. There has been no proof that HRT, or as far as I know any V8 supercar team, have run any form of traction control.. Mind you, it is FACT that FORD DID run UNDERWEIGHT body components and shells with I beleive the EF or EL.... So basically FORD are the only ones who have cheated and been caught....

How much weight loss was there and maybe we should weigh Marcos Ambrose....he might be driving with prosthetic arms and legs...winners are grinners, this week anyway. My only wonder is how come HRT are so far off the boil compared to last year and "wild' claims as made above regarding T/C seem more believable.

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by Devil CV8
Murphy got pole with Ambrose third so all is now right with the world:stick:

Obviously this is in highsight and I couldn't resist, however maybe we should stick to the real race world...:stick:

[Devil CV8]

Originally posted by Ghia351
Obviously this is in highsight and I couldn't resist, however maybe we should stick to the real race world...:stick: All is still right in my little world, the medication is working.....:errr: :errr:



In regards the Ford weight loss program, it was kept very quiet at the time and the first I heard of it was an interview with the chief scrutineer in a magazine...... He was walking through the pits and noticed "do not push here" stickers on the bootlid, so he pushed. Weighing showed the cars to be light and even replacing all bolt on panels still left a shortfall, so ballast was added. At the time of the article it was mentioned that there were still cars running around Konica with the ballast. It was thought that a big public stink would have made ford pick up their bat and go home....

[mavss]

Getting back to the race at hand :box: , I was dissapointed with the inexplicable mistakes Skaife made, particularly coming in too hot on a couple of corners & either overshooting or spinning out trying to avoid the car in front. :mad:

Congratulations to Ambrose for a fine race & comiserations to Ingall for missing out :bawl:

I always look forward to the Clipsal 500 as it's always got plenty of biff & barge - this year was no exception :thump:

The moment where Skaife came out of the pits & bumped into Ingall heading into turn 1 caused my heart to miss a beat :love:

Now, if only Webber can manage a podium finish to make this weekend complete :hide:

oops - Mark may need a bit of a boost :kapow:

[spank]

well im dissapointed with todays race if you could call it that , besides the fact that the opposition won , the points structure still doesnt reward the winner enough , no wonder you have cars willing to follow each other around the track untill the end when only 3 points seperate you , it puts the second and third placed drivers in a posistion to score good points with out having to win. ill bet if the difference was say 20 points diff between 1st and second you would have seen richards and bright going after ambrose instead of richards holding up bright being happy to sit 1 second behind ambrose to claim only 3 points less than the winner ! just my opinion , ill go and watch the F1 now and see if its a motor race or a points accumulation procession also :(
by the way do you think team ownership is affecting skaife ?

[SSbaby]

Sorry CeeVee8 but your insinuations are unfounded. You obviously haven't seen footage of the HRT cars wheelsping the rears, after exiting a corner. In fact if you see footage of cars tailing a HRT car, you will notice that the HRT car's corner exit speed isn't much different to the car behind.

It's well known that HRT are in a league of their own when it comes to damper development and Skaife is a master when it comes to setting up racecars (I'm not his biggest fan, btw!). Hence their superior speed at most tracks, although last year was a different exercise with the new front suspension which has altered the VY's f-r balance and new engine which has a lower centre of gravity and torque characteristics.

It takes months of engine development to get a brand new engine such as the 'Holden MS' to the level of performance its taken the 18 degree Chevs, which, mind you were in a league of their own torque wise.

Getting back to the Adelaide race, Skaife himself wasn't in the best physical shape as he lost feeling in his right foot in Saturday's race due to his back problem, might explain his below par result this weekend. Not making excuses for Skaife/HRT but it's good to see the Castrol, PWR and Valvoline cars doing well for Holden.

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by mavss


Now, if only Webber can manage a podium finish to make this weekend complete :hide:

S**t, I almost forgot it's on TV...logging off. Good luck to him.

[CeeVee8]

SSbaby I don't think that it was only HRT that had t/c but all the top teams (the ones with money) Holden & Ford before project blueprint came into effect. The blueprint idea implemented many changes and eliminating the possible use of traction control was one of them. Russell Ingall said when still driving for Perkins that basically if you did'nt use it you would be left behind as the next team would be.

So this is what I THINK (of course feel free to disagree:flip2: )

Ford stopped using t/c with the introduction of the BA, it was a completely new car.

With Holden the VY was basically the same shell as VT VX with the new susp. modifications so changes came in dribs and drabs ie. some went to the new motor straight away some did'nt.

I find it strange that the Factory Holden team was reluctant to switch to their NEW Holden Motorsport Motor that they lobbied hard for as it is supposed to be better than the old one !

Anyway something to think about, you probably think I'm a Ford nut in disguise but honestly I'm not. I just like to see fair and realistic racing not politics and marketing bs.

[98Club]

I'm pretty sure HRT used the new engine in both cars from Sandown onwards last year, and certainly didn't have any lack of speed for the remaining rounds. So the traction control argument seems pretty weak.

Skaife seemed to have trouble with braking into the corners on the weekend, and he had the same trouble at the GP. I don't think traction out of the corners was an issue.

[chops]

Congratulations to Ambrose, he was just untouchable.

I am a Holden man through and through, but he just deserved the wins - he raced the quickest, and the cleanest.

[MonaroCV8]

Originally posted by chops
Congratulations to Ambrose, he was just untouchable.

I am a Holden man through and through, but he just deserved the wins - he raced the quickest, and the cleanest.
Totally agree but it's easy to race clean when your out in front. :stick:

[daveee]

Did anyone happen to catch the GT performance series at Adelaide?

I've never seen a new STi absolutely destroyed in front of my eyes. I hope Mr. Boatright is recovering well in hospital. :bawl:

[Ghia351]

Originally posted by MonaroCV8
Totally agree but it's easy to race clean when your out in front. :stick:
The hard work is getting there, mixed in with some good luck of course.

[vxtreem]

I was at the 500 and this red vy ute came out of nowhere and stomped on it. Scared the crap out of everyonem. Out the front was one massive big block.I think someone said something about Victor Brays son. How long as this thing been goin around. It left the thickest of blacks from the hairpin all the way down pit straight. Me :eek: :drool:

[GAL350]

You'd be talking about Ben Bray's ute. The number plates for his ute are SMOKIN I believe. Its custom built for burnouts and has been around for quite a few months. I saw it first at Bathurst last year but I believe a lot of work has been done to it since then.

Yes he's Victor Bray's son but can stand alone from him on his own two feet. I've never seen him race myself but is apparently a huge talent and picked up top doorslammer somehere recently.

Big things to come from this Bray! Remember that hes only 19.

B*stard:drool:

[BossV8]

Originally posted by MonaroCV8
Totally agree but it's easy to race clean when your out in front. :stick:

Easy? :doh: :limpy:

Yes, easier than being behind, but i think unless you've raced before, you'de know just how much effort is involved in keeping competitors at bay. Ambrose done the hard yards to a) qualify in a good pozzy, b)get out in front), c) keep a fast pace

While you may not have the pressure of people all over your backside if you have built a 10 second lead, you've still done the hard yards to get there in the first place. You still have to concentrate just as hard as any other driver. Yes, i've raced before, and yes, the last few years Mark Skaife deserves the same accolades for doing the exact same tactical racing....

[Mykdiver]

I am jelous!!! I would love to go to a V8 Supercar race. I try to watch them on Speed Channel here, but they are not on very often. I love watching all the Holdens. What is up with the Fords leading the pack, in years past it was almost always the Holdens up front. I have not had the chance to watch a race this year so far. Did Ford get some kind of rule change to help them out?

[Black Betty]

I was at the 500 and this red vy ute came out of nowhere and stomped on it. Scared the crap out of everyonem. Out the front was one massive big block.I think someone said something about Victor Brays son. How long as this thing been goin around. It left the thickest of blacks from the hairpin all the way down pit straight. Me :eek: :drool:


I was in the Pits chatting to him just before it came out asking similar questions one of which i asked was how quick on 1/4 mile he responded with ha shit its only good for burnouts!!! :)

[Mykdiver]

What is up with this Non Validated thing???? How do we get Validated???